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Title: Henry Reuben Rand.
Post by: susyswan on Wednesday 16 July 08 08:05 BST (UK)
Henry R Rand wa born in 1866 in Littlemore Oxfordshire  he later lived in Warwickshire. abt 1911 he went to live in Canada in a place called Parry Sound this is all i know about him. can any one help. please .
Title: Re: Henry Reuben Rand.
Post by: Necromancer on Wednesday 16 July 08 08:56 BST (UK)
Here he is as a youngster with parents and a sibling ... his age differs from the DoB you have tho ?

1871 - RG10/1448; Folio: 80; Page: 19 - Kidlington, Oxfordshire

 
John Rand 21  Head Agricultural Labourer born Kidlington
Mary Rand 25  Wife Littlemore
Henry Rand 2  son do
Levinia M Rand 7 months  dau Kidlington
Title: Re: Henry Reuben Rand.
Post by: Necromancer on Wednesday 16 July 08 08:58 BST (UK)
Census documented age agrees with Birth Index entry ...

Births Mar 1869   
 
RAND  Henry Reuben    Abingdon  Vol 2c Page 300   

Title: Re: Henry Reuben Rand.
Post by: susyswan on Wednesday 16 July 08 09:01 BST (UK)
Thank you. for your reply will alter my records. thanks. sue.
Title: Re: Henry Reuben Rand.
Post by: Necromancer on Wednesday 16 July 08 09:03 BST (UK)
The family - with some additions - are still in Kidlington in 1881 ..

1881 - RG11/1511; Folio: 55; Page: 11 - Kidlington, Oxon
Private House Mill St


John Rand 31  Head Rural Letter Carrier Kidlington
Mary Rand 35  Wife Littlemore
Henry R. Rand 12  son do
Levinia M. Rand 10  dau Kidlington
Edith M. Rand 1  dau Kidlington
Florence J. Rand 5  dau Kidlington




Title: Re: Henry Reuben Rand.
Post by: susyswan on Wednesday 16 July 08 09:07 BST (UK)
Thank you.   :) sue
Title: Re: Henry Reuben Rand.
Post by: Necromancer on Wednesday 16 July 08 09:09 BST (UK)
Jumping ahead to 1901 ....

RG13/2915; Folio: 37; Page: 24 - Warwickshire, Long Lawford - Rugby District
The Green


Henry Reuben Rand 32  Head Littlemore, Oxon
Agnes Rand 28  Wife Steeple Aston, Oxon
Henry Edward Rand 8 son Canada Toronto ?
Norman Sidney Rand 6  son Canada Tackley ?
Evelina May Rand 3  dau do
Florence Mary Rand 2  dau born Long Lawford
  


Kids PoB of Canada could explain his absence in 1891 ?



Title: Re: Henry Reuben Rand.
Post by: Necromancer on Wednesday 16 July 08 09:10 BST (UK)
Marriages Dec 1890   
 
ADDISON  Agnes    Regn District of Woodstock Vol 3a Page 1430    to  Rand  Henry Reuben     
Title: Re: Henry Reuben Rand.
Post by: jorose on Wednesday 16 July 08 16:14 BST (UK)
www.automatedgenealogy.com shows this family in 1911 in Toronto South. Henry and Agnes are listed as coming to Canada in 1890, the younger children b. England as coming in 1910, so you could look for both crossings.

http://www.mpsgg.com/Cem_data/church_datab_R.html
 - some cemetery data from Parry Sound here.

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/cef/001042-100.01-e.php
 - Henry (senior!) signed up in WWI, as Henry Ruben Rand (claims to be born 1870, says he served in the Boer war). They were in Parry Sound by this point. Son Norman also signed up, son Henry Edward not listed (deceased, in navy/merchant navy - Parry Sound is a port - signed up in England or US instead?)
Title: Re: Henry Reuben Rand.
Post by: carol8353 on Wednesday 16 July 08 16:19 BST (UK)
Henry Rand 22 and Agnes Rand 20 left Liverpool on 28 Jan 1891 bound for New York. The ship they sailed on was The TEUTONIC and Henry is listed as a labourer.

Regards

Carol
Title: Re: Henry Reuben Rand.
Post by: susyswan on Wednesday 16 July 08 16:27 BST (UK)
Thank you for your reply. & help thank you. sue
Title: Re: Henry Reuben Rand.
Post by: Necromancer on Wednesday 16 July 08 16:29 BST (UK)
Hi again Sue - were you surprised he went twice to Canada ?
Title: Re: Henry Reuben Rand.
Post by: carol8353 on Wednesday 16 July 08 16:42 BST (UK)
Don't know when dad travelled back to Canada but the rest of them left Liverpool, bound for Quebec on the Corsican on the 6 Oct 1910. They are transcribed as Rands.

Mrs A Rand wife
Norman Rand labourer
May spin (poss meaning spinster?)
Flo,Ruby,Archie and Kathie all listed as children.

Sadly no more info this end,but perhaps there is on the Canadian side.

Regards

Carol
Title: Re: Henry Reuben Rand.
Post by: carol8353 on Wednesday 16 July 08 16:50 BST (UK)
Norman served in WW1 for Canada,his attestation papers here ..

http://www.rootschat.com/links/03uq/

It says his next of kin is Agnes,so I think that means that dad Henry has died by then?

Carol

PS sorry Jorose,didn't notice you had already posted details about Norman  :-[

Title: Re: Henry Reuben Rand.
Post by: J.J. on Wednesday 16 July 08 18:40 BST (UK)
Here you go, you now have date of departure & arrival  http://castlegarden.org
Most info, ages, etc... as per Carol's post ...see actual transcription on site
Henry Rand  occ: Laborer  Literacy: U
Ship TEUTONIC  Arr: Feb 5 1891
Origin    GREAT BRITAIN Port LIVERPOOL & QUEENSTOWN
Plan:Unknown    Passage: Unknown

Above information all the same for Agnes ... J.J.
Title: Re: Henry Reuben Rand.
Post by: susyswan on Wednesday 16 July 08 19:26 BST (UK)
Thank you all for your help & reply's . it is very much  appreciated . will now try canada .thank you sue.
Title: Re: Henry Reuben Rand.
Post by: J.J. on Wednesday 16 July 08 19:31 BST (UK)
Carol's information gets you this ship's log:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/03ur/

Wow, short trip...
You just need to look through the images for their entry... J.J.
Title: Re: Henry Reuben Rand.
Post by: KarenM on Wednesday 16 July 08 19:51 BST (UK)
Marriage Registration for....

Henry Edward Rand
Bachelor
Age:  20
Place of birth:  Toronto
Place of Residence:  Fern Glen, Parry Sound
Bachelor
Father:  Henry R. Rand, Farmer
Mother:  Agnes Addison

Amy Edith Tebby
Age:  20
Spinster
Place of Birth:  Fern Glen, Parry Sound
Father:  Henry Tebby, Farmer
Mother:  Helen (Unknown)

Witnessess:  Benjamin Dow and Mary Rand
Date of Marriage:  Sept 5, 1912, Toronto, Ontario

Reglion of both:  Church of England
Reg. No. 028581

Title: Re: Henry Reuben Rand.
Post by: J.J. on Wednesday 16 July 08 19:55 BST (UK)
we posted together again!
Due to the fact that you hadn't seen the birth Quarter for Henry, and that you'd thought he was in Canada  perhaps you haven't seen the marriage

Marriage Dec Q 1890
Rand Henry Reuben
Agnes ADDISON on page
Woodstock  vol. 3a  p. 1430
Title: Re: Henry Reuben Rand.
Post by: KarenM on Wednesday 16 July 08 19:58 BST (UK)
Birth Registration for:

Henry Edward Rand
Date of Birth:  April 27, 1892
Father:  Henry R. Rand
Mother:  Agnes Addison
Occupation of Father:  Groom
Informant:  Agnes Rand, 496 Clinton St., Toronto
Reg. No. 040490
City of Toronto, County of York

Title: Re: Henry Reuben Rand.
Post by: KarenM on Wednesday 16 July 08 20:04 BST (UK)
Marriage Registration for....

Ruby Rand
Age:  18
Place of birth:  England
Spinster
Occupation:  Housekeeper
Religion:  Anglican
Father:  Henry Rand
Mother:  Agnes Addison
Residence when married:  Twp. of McMurrick

Wilfred Warner
AGe:  22
Bachelor
Occupation:  Farmer
Place of birth:  Twp. of McMurrick
Religion:  Methodist
Father:  Martin Warner
Mother:  Isabella Bell

Place of Marriage:  Hunstville, Ontario
Date of Marriage:  June 17, 1918
Reg. No. 013729

Witnessess:  L. Wall, Huntsville and Mrs. W. Montrose, Hunstsville


K
Title: Re: Henry Reuben Rand.
Post by: J.J. on Wednesday 16 July 08 20:15 BST (UK)
Birth June Q 1899
Florence Mary Rand 
Rugby  vol. 6d    p. 647

Birth March Q 1902
Ruby Agnes Rand
Rugby  vol. 6d  p. 583

Births Sept. Q. 1904
Archie Gordon Rand
Derby  vol.7b   p. 597

They must have moved around a bit there, so you might need to look
for Kathleen & Robert   http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Title: Re: Henry Reuben Rand.
Post by: Necromancer on Thursday 17 July 08 08:01 BST (UK)
Marriage found previously on Page 1 of thread.,...

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Due to the fact that you hadn't seen the birth Quarter for Henry, and that you'd thought he was in Canada  perhaps you haven't seen the marriage
Title: Re: Henry Reuben Rand.
Post by: J.J. on Thursday 17 July 08 14:37 BST (UK)
Yeah, sorry, can't read  :P  :-[  :-X  :-\  pushing off now...
Title: Re: Henry Reuben Rand.
Post by: Rand, Kelly on Monday 01 February 10 05:00 GMT (UK)
My grandfather lists Henry Rueben Rand as his father when he enlisted in 1943.  He was raised in Fern Glen in the district of Parry Sound.  My records show that HR was married to Agnes .  My Grandfather named one of his three children after her. 

the thread here indicates a photo of HR as a small boy.  I don't know how to access that...or the other links.  happy to share what info i do have.
Title: Re: Henry Reuben Rand.
Post by: susyswan on Monday 01 February 10 06:00 GMT (UK)
Hello Kelly. Thank you for your reply . HR was the nephew of my 3xtimes great grand mother (Ann Rand 1805-1836) i have got back  to Robert Rand b 1710. any information would be most welcome . how far have you got. best regards Sue.
Title: Re: Henry Reuben Rand.
Post by: Rand, Kelly on Monday 01 February 10 06:17 GMT (UK)
I've just been dabbling really but find it challenging finding info from the other side of the ocean.  As a result my documents are more 'recent' and local.  Military papers for HR, Norman, my grampa Victor and death, anniversary notices as well as some family photos. 

I sent an email to a jackandsue email that was looking for info on a Muskoka website.  if that is you, you now have my email address and I would be happy to send off some doc/photos.

Are you in the UK or Canada?
Title: Re: Henry Reuben Rand.
Post by: susyswan on Monday 01 February 10 06:32 GMT (UK)
I am in the uk. i am trying to get back further, but not having much luck. Sue
Title: Re: Henry Reuben Rand.
Post by: Aaron, Rand on Sunday 25 November 18 09:26 GMT (UK)
I know this is an old thread but I am a Rand. My grand father was James Rand the youngest born in 1925 in Fern Glen. His father was Henry Edward Rand. Would love to get more information on where my family originally came from...