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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Worcestershire => Topic started by: mew64 on Wednesday 16 July 08 12:55 BST (UK)
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Has anyone heard of Russell Hall, somewhere near to Dudley please? Our ancestors, the Sutton Dudley family, owned this house during the 1600s.Thomas Sutton Dudley was born there in 1653, as was his father, Jeffrey. I haven't been able to find out much at all about the hall. Has anyone got any ideas as to where I could try next please? I live a long way from the area, and have health problems, so I am limited to the internet for my research.
Many thanks.
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there is an awful lot about the Dudley Suttons in Worcester,but they all seem to come from Dudley castle.....There is a locale called Russells hall....whether it's where your house was I don't know....will keep looking.
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Oh,I beginning to think Russell hall is in Kent,lots of stuff on Google has Dudley Suttons born Russell hall Kent..
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There is an area of Dudley called Russell's Hall. In fact Dudley hospital is called Russell's Hall.
You could try Dudley archives for information http://www.dudley.gov.uk/leisure-and-culture/local-history--heritage/archive-and-local-history
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Have you seen these?
http://todmar.net/ancestry/sutton_main.htm
http://www.sedgleymanor.com/historical/dudley_castle_history.html
And Google book search has this:
The Sutton-Dudleys of England and the Dudleys of Massachusetts in New England By George Adlard
A very interesting family, the Dudleys!
Robert Dudley, Queen Elizabeth I's favourite.
The Earl of Northumberland ~ who put Lady Jane Grey on the throne.
http://www.elizabethi.org/us/queensmen/robertdudley.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Dudley,_1st_Earl_of_Leicester
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Coming from just outside Dudley myself and working for the local council up until last year I can tell you the Russells Hall Estate and Russells Hall Hospital are built on what was once Russells Hall a stately home and grounds
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Hi everyone,
thank you so much for all of the replies and information given. I am now sure that Russell Hall was once where the new estate and hospital are now. I have been told that there is a picture of the hall in a book about Sedgley, I am still trying to track a copy down. I would love to see an image of it. I wonder if it was derelict at the time of demolition.. I guess it must have been. The Sutton Dudleys are indeed a very interesting family to research, there is plenty to keep me going for a few years at least!
Thanks again for your interest and assistance.
Happy hunting everyone!
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Did you get an answer to this question? and did u find your photo. I live in dudley and on Russells Hall the info that you have so far is completely wrong.
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Hi,
welcome to Rootschat....Now tell all . ;D
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What you would call the Russells Hall housing est, which is indeed next to the hospital. was once prt of the Earl of Dudleys land and was Known as Parkhead collery. When the land was reclaimed in the late 40s/50s and housing built the area was renamed Russells Hall. If you visit www.old-maps.co.uk it will show Park- head thats were the housing is now. There was a hall called Russells Hall nothing on a large scale and if you go onto google earth type in grange park in dudley thats roughly where the hall was.
The hospital area its self about 7 years ago went under some major redevolpment and the last thing to go was an old farm house which had stood empty for about 20 years the hast time i remembering see any one in it was when i was 16 and I am 41 now.
Hope this helps.
Mark Room
www.rememberingyou.org.uk
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What you would call the Russells Hall housing est, which is indeed next to the hospital. was once prt of the Earl of Dudleys land and was Known as Parkhead collery. When the land was reclaimed in the late 40s/50s and housing built the area was renamed Russells Hall. If you visit www.old-maps.co.uk it will show Park- head thats were the housing is now. There was a hall called Russells Hall nothing on a large scale and if you go onto google earth type in grange park in dudley thats roughly where the hall was.
The hospital area its self about 7 years ago went under some major redevolpment and the last thing to go was an old farm house which had stood empty for about 20 years the hast time i remembering see any one in it was when i was 16 and I am 41 now.
Hope this helps.
Mark Room
www.rememberingyou.org.uk
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Thanks for that Mark,
so the house was more like a small manor house rather than than a palatial house.
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Not even a Mannor house more of a country residence, until the early 1800 the area which you are refiring to was not quite in dudley which at that point was in staffordshire it was in worcestershire so it would have been classed as being in the country side on the Earl of Dudleys land.
Are you in the UK?
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Mark is correct about the old Russells Hall Dudley archives would be best place give them a call they are very friendly it was once the property of the Earl of Dudley there are old rent books in the archives my great grandparents resnted Wrens Nest Farm and it was also the property of the Earl of Duldley x
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Apparently Dudley Archives has a Water Colour:-
Russell's Hall, Dudley
Artist: W Barker (local artist)
Object Name: Watercolour
ObjectNumber: 1937/353
Brief Description: Watercolour by W Barker of Russell's Hall
Dimensions: 24.5cm x 35.5cm (unframed)
Technique: DRAWINGS and WATERCOLOURS: watercolour
Material: Watercolour paint
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Hi, I have been in touch with Dudley Archives, they very kindly sent me an image of Russells Hall, it could be from the painting you mention, but it looks more like a pencil drawing, I've been trying to attach it but it's too large!
I'm no use with technical stuff so I'll ask my Son if he can re size it for me.
Many thanks.
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Ooh yes please post it, would love to see the picture. Thankyou from Linell.
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Hi, sorry for the delay, many thanks for the input and interest shown. This is the image of Russells Hall that was sent to me by Dudley Archives.
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Woh that is fantastic, what a world away from today, all looks so rural and so peaceful! Thanks so much for sharing that with us Mew64, bet you are over the moon to find that. Must be really rare I've not seen that picture before, brilliant from Linell.
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the farm was called nanny goats farm .
dounde
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there's a book but I don't know what it's like
A history of Russells Hall, Dudley; the house and the estate,
Author: John Stephen Roper
Publisher: [Dudley] County Bureau of Dudley, Libraries, Museums, & Arts Dept. [1973]
Series: Dudley Public Libraries transcript, no. 17
Edition/Format: Print book : EnglishView all editions and formats
Database: WorldCat
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W. Barker's watercolour
http://weloveart.org.uk/collections/getrecord/DMUSE_1937_353/
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Vision of Britain http://www.visionofbritain.org.uk/place/201
Click on link and click on map (as advised)
Click on "Ordnance Survey First Series" - Russell Hall marked just west of Dudley