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i am relly looking for anyinfo on ayres parker marriages particularly alice ayres b.approx 1853 and mark parker b.1pprox1855 in the kent surry or hampshire regions.a john ayres born 1797approx and olive ayres. also noah parkers perants.he was born 1855 in epsom surrey.i have him in 1891 down as north parker and m to henrietta(i think an ayres) and i have him in 1881 but cant find him before.i would love if its so to find mark and noah together!!!?somewhere.cathayb
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Hi cathayb,
I dont think Henrietta was an Ayres.
Free BMD has a marriage Hollingbourn, September quarter 1877, Noah Parker and Henrietta Taylor - possible spouses.
As they have a cousin with them, Daniel Taylor, in 1881, this looks quite a strong possibility.
best wishes
heywood
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Marriage December quarter 1865 Kingston
Alice Ayres and Mark Parker
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brilliant thank you very much.have you any idea who if mark parker and noan parker tie up?or who the perants of mark and alice were?thanks cathayb
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I can't see Noah before 1881 - odd.
1881 RG11; Piece: 757; Folio: 93; Page: 13
Mark Parker b 1844 Ashford Middlesex
1871 RG10; Piece: 796; Folio: 74; Page: 18
Mark Parker b 1841 Ashford Middlesex
but I can't find Mark before 1871 ???
Neither can I find Alice before marriage either! Well not an Alice with the same birthplace or who looks as though she would be in a travelling family.
You may have to get the marriage certificates for the fathers' names.
Will have another last look but nothing looks promising.
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someone just sent me marriage cert. marks father down as mark alices father dawn as henry ayres. witness joseph ayres(maybe her brother or uncle?)and mark parker. i hoped someone might find them but if your having trouble at least it wasnt me lost my knack for looking.i thought i had really lost it.seems it will have to be parish registers.thanks for trying.if you find anything atall please let me know.cathayb
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just found Henry Ayres (Aris) and Olive
1851 HO107; Piece: 1653; Folio: 30; Page: 32
do you have access to census?
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onderful i will go look it up and i just found that henrietta is plato taylors daughter he married elizabeth webb.
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right i looked it up and on the next page 18 is all hawkers aswell.but i am blowed if i can read the surnames.the enumerator needed to learn to writw!!!!
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have been trying to find them in 1861 ???
On 1851 census - the entries below Henry anf family also look like Aris -Alfred and Sarah with several children.
Then there are Mears - John and Sarah aged 62 yrs and 64 yrs with a son John aged 4 yrs :o but there is a Mary Ann Mears on next entry.
The Bailys seem to be next
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Hi Girls :)
I wonder if this is your Alice who married Mark Parker
1851
Bury, Sussex
Henry Airs 40 hawker b NK
not sure of wife's name...could be Olive
ooopppsss just seen that hepburn has found them ...arrgghhhhh ...
okay well then just bookmarking ...will look further
deb
ps Cathay ...i think the people next to them are called Meard or Mears :-\
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yes this is def them.i want to find them in 1841 next and who they are stopping with and also mark parker with his family befor 1861.thanks for your help so far.
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Hi there
we have been researching our family and have found that they mostly resided in caravans on Epsom Downs, the 1st record being Sarah Parker (nee Wilson born Farnham 1822), she shows up on the 1871 census with her 4 children who were Andrew, James, Job and Frederick, we are convinced that Sarah is the same sarah Wilson married to a Mark Parker born 1819 of Ash in Surrey in 1849 although Mark seems to disappear on all census records apart from being shown as the Father of the boys, in looking for these we did find a Mark Parker married to Alice Ayres and we think he could have been the Son of Mark and Sarah, he was born approx 1844 about 5 years before heir marraige ut records are not always accurate, it would make sense as the family tradition is to name the 1st born after the Father or Mother and there is no sign of Mark on the 1871 census as he probably would have flown the nest by then,
see stuff below i have gleaned on Mark and Alice
Household Record 1881 British Census
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Household:
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Mark PARKER Head M Male 37 Ashford, Middlesex, England Licensed Hawker
Alice PARKER Wife M Female 35 Plextall, Kent, England
Matilda PARKER Daur Female 14 Kent, England
Mark PARKER Son Male 13 Redhill, Surrey, England
John PARKER Son Male 11 Cheam, Surrey, England
Elizabeth PARKER Daur Female 9 Cheam, Surrey, England
Leonard PARKER Son Male 7 Cheam, Surrey, England
Mary Ann PARKER Daur Female 6 Cheam, Surrey, England
William PARKER Son Male 4 Cheam, Surrey, England
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Source Information:
Dwelling Washington Rd (Caravan)
Census Place Cheam, Surrey, England
Family History Library Film 1341178
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0757 / 93
Page Number
Mark and Alices wedding
Mark Parker Pedigree
Male Family
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:
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Parents:
Father: Mark Parker Family
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Marriages:
Spouse: Alice Ayres Family
Marriage: 20 NOV 1865 Claygate, Surrey, England
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
I021916 Film
Sheet:
Henry Parker
we think he has to be a cousin ,lving so close to the other Parkers
Household Record 1881 British Census
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Household:
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Henry PARKER Head M Male 31 Reading, Berkshire, England Hawker
Viletta PARKER Wife M Female 36 Godalming, Surrey, England Hawker
Alice PARKER Daur Female 15 Horsham, Surrey, England Hawker
Henry PARKER Son Male 10 Addlestone, Surrey, England Sch
Walter PARKER Son Male 7 Sutton, Surrey, England Sch
Mark PARKER Son Male 5 Worcester Park, Surrey, England Sch
John PARKER Son Male 3 Epsom Maldon, Surrey, England
Frederick PARKER Son Male 1 Epsom Maldon, Surrey, England
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Source Information:
Dwelling Gypsey Caravan Ngston Lane Horton
Census Place Epsom, Surrey, England
Family History Library Film 1341179
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0762 / 55
Page Number 49
We also found James Parker born 1857 living in a tent in Cheam in 1881 with his young family, he was Sarahs son, another one living aorund the corner from the Mark you are looking for
Hope this is useful to you
Neil
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MARK PARKER b; abt 1844 ASHFORD MIDDLESEX
ALICE AYRES b:abt1845 PLEXTOL,PLEXTELL OR PECHAM KENT.
DATE OF MARRIAGE :20 NOV 1865 CLAYGATE SURREY.
KNOWN TO HAVE HAD 12 CHILDREN AND LIVING AN A CARAVAN,CHEAM SURREY 1881/1891 CENSUS.
MARRIAGE CERT FOR MARK AND ALICE SHOWS MARK PARKER AS FATHER OF MARK AND HENRY AYRES AS FATHER OF ALICE.
WITNESSES TO THE MARRIAGE ARE HENRY PARKER AND JOSEPH AYRES, ALL SIGNED WITH X MARKS THE SPOT.
I THINK I'VE GOT IT RIGHT THIS TIME.
i have access to this tree now on ancestry.i will have alook and see what i can find at the week end.the wilson connection looks very interesting so far.
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I have a tree on the Parker and Wilson side going back to Mark born 1787 and Elizabeth Parker born 1790, both born in Buckland, Surrey, i assume they married in approx. 1818, son Mark was born in Ash in 1819, Sarah Wilson born Farnham 1822, they married 1849 in Ash
Sarah born 1822, Father John Wilson born 1790 Farnham, Mother Elizabeth, no info on her
Johns Father was another John and Mother Martha, possibly Matha Mary, born approx. 1768
we know the family decamped each year from Epsom Downs to the Hop fields in Kent as my Grandfather Frederick Parker was born in Ashstead and Great Great Uncle Job Parker was born Wimbledon but christened in Tudesley in Kent,
Farnham was also a major hop picking area so this may be the connection
I am a bit baffled as to the Buckland connection, i got the info from www.familysearch.org what throws me off is that Buckland was a very old Romany name and i wonder if this has been confused in translation.
There is also another Mark in the family, born 1874 in Southall / Colnbrook, so were a few of my older ancestors, was this on the Romany route?
baffled of Surrey
Neil
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Hello Neil,
Did your Frederick Parker descend from Henry Parker and Violetta Bowers?
My Grandfather was Rupert Parker (born 1900), son of Henry, Grandson of Henry and Violetta.
Regards,
Jim
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what area were they from as i have parkers and bowers in my tree but need to know the vicvinity and any dates yoiu may have.cathayb
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Jaytoot
the only connection i can think of is a Henry i found living on Epsom Downs whi i assume must be a cousin, i think i found him in Cheam as well and i do remember the name Villetta
not a direct connection though
regards
Neil
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The Bowers connction is through my Great Aunt Mary Ann Parker who married a Henry Bowers and lived in Bagshot from the early 1900's in Half Moon st
The Parker family is spread out but there are early connections to: Buckland, Farnham, Ash, a lot on Epsom Downs, and Colnbrook Middlesex, aslo Cheam and Sunbury
a few were born in Kent but i put this down to the family hop picking in the area
the main family seem to have been resident on Epsom Downs from the 1850's to the late 1890's
i just met a lady at the Surrey History Centre who was also looking for Bowers
Happy Hunting
Neil
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Hi
Cathyab - re parker and bowers. The census posted by Neil is the family.
Henry PARKER Head M Male 31 Reading, Berkshire, England Hawker
Violetta PARKER Wife M Female 36 Godalming, Surrey, England Hawker
Alice PARKER Daur Female 15 Horsham, Surrey, England Hawker
Henry PARKER Son Male 10 Addlestone, Surrey, England Sch
Walter PARKER Son Male 7 Sutton, Surrey, England Sch
Mark PARKER Son Male 5 Worcester Park, Surrey, England Sch
John PARKER Son Male 3 Epsom Maldon, Surrey, England
Frederick PARKER Son Male 1 Epsom Maldon, Surrey, England
Violetta Parker (Bowers). Henry Parker marries Violetta Bowers in Kingston in 1870 (free bmd). Violetta is the duaghter of Walker Bowers.
1871 Census Walton on Thames Surrey
Walker Bowers - age 51 basket maker - B Haslemere Surrey
Maria (wife) - 48 - B. Surrey Chiddingford
Louisa 18 - B. Twyford hampshire
Selby 14 - Hale Surrey
Mary Ann 8 - Ripley Surrey
Sarah 4 - Alton Hampshire
Robert Bowers (lodger) 23 - Leatherhead Surrey
Margeret Bowers (wife) 21 - Hersham Surrey
Henry Parker (lodger) Licensed Hawker - 23 - B. Epsom Surrey
Violetta Parker (wife) 26 - B. Godalming Surrey
I believe (from info supplied by someone else) that Violetta Bowers married 2 times.
Free BMD Marriage 1863 Epsom
William Lambert Campbell to Violetta Bowers James
Free BMD Marriage 1870 Kingston
Violetta Lambert then marries Henry Parker
Finally - in 1901 Walker Bowers is living in Epsom with henry and Violetta Parker.
Hope that all makes sense!!
Regards,
Jim
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thanks jim.help appreciated.
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I have seen a family tree that suggests Henry Ayres is the partner of Olive James, both born in the early 1900's
My gg grandparents are John and Louisa James. I have just got what i believe is their marraige certificate in Nettleford Kent 1855.
John James age 22 - Hawker. Father is Joseph James Hawker.
Louisa Aires age 20 - Spinster. Father is Henry Aires - basket maker.
Witnesses Charles Aires and Caroline ???( difficult to read maybe Elsnor?)
IGI give a baptism at east grinstead in 1838 of Louisa Eyres father Henry mother Olive.
In the census for John and Louisa James (1881 and 1891) Louisa gives 2 different birthplaces - one is Churchill Oxfordshire the other is East grinstead.
In the tree i mentioned at the begining it shows Louisa's father Henry born Churchill Oxfordshire.
In the 1881 census they are next to Noah and Sarah with a cousin Amy Maria. Their last name is transcribed as AGOTER?? but i can't say that that is correct.
Also, John and Louisa have a son John James he marries Mignonette Ayres. She is the daughter of Samuel Collins and Amy Ayres. Amy Ayers is the daughter of Aldred Ayres.
Any info on the James or Ayres families mentioned here would be appreciated.
Regards Jim
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Hi Cath
since my original posting re: Parkers, i have managed to put together quite a comprehensive history, although there is no direct link between the Parkers and Ayres and eyres) family it would seem that they travelled around in the same groups from one location to another in the late 1800's, i found Parkers, Careys and Eyres in vans picking fruit near Dartford)
If anybody is interested i have links to other travellers that married Parkers
These are
Hoadley (originally from Leicester but ended up in frimley)
Graingers from Frimley area but originally from Tadley area
Carey (Epsom and Bagshot)
Bowers
Mathews (Epsom Downs)
Clements
Palmer (Walton on the Hill)
I too am looking for a Mark Parker but from an earlier time, we have 4 Mark Parkers in a direct line but none match with Alice Ayres, the Mark i am now looking for married an Elizabeth, they first show up in Parish records as travellers and parents of Mark Parker born in Ash in 1819, they also had a daughter, Dinah also known as Diane who married a William Grainger, Dinah was born around 1809 in Preston Candover but the family seemed to settle in the Frimley area, i found Elizabeth as a widow on the 1851 census in Frimley but her place of birth was unknown
All the family are hawkers or Licensed hawkers and living in Vans or tents
I am also looking for the birth or roots of an Elizabeth Mathews, born in the mid 1850's in the Ascot area, she married Frederick Parker in the early 1870's, they had a son Mark born in "a tent" in 1874 at Hayes Bridge, next found on Epsom Downs then settled in Bagshot in about 1896, i can find no BMD record of her birth or marriage, just stuff from the census
also lookling for a Charlotte Palmer, born Walton on the Hill about 1868, no birth record available, next shows up as Charlotte (Lott) Winsor in Chertsey area, ended up in the Chertsey Union Workhouse in the early 1900's, we know she had 2 children born in Dorking in the mid 1890's, they were Daisy and Mabel but their Father is listed as Thomas Coleman when they both marry, very confusing this one
any help would be much appreciated
Neil
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Hi Jaytoot and Cath
no connection to your people Jaytoot
I have Henry Bowers marrying my Great Aunt Mary Ann Parker in 1901
Henry was born in Pyrford 1880, May Ann in Leatherhead in 1880
the children that i can trace from these 2 are, Loiusa Bowers, Born 1910 Byfleet, Mary Bowers, Born 1905 Halstead, Joseph Bowers, Born 1904, Woking, Walter Bowers, Born 1902 Woking,
Mary Ann was originally living "in caravans" on Epsom Downs, Father Frederick Parker, Mother Elizabeth Mathews born Ascot area 1856, i am particularly interested in finding our more about hwer, cant find a thing in BMD or on the census before she was married, there were always Parkers and Mathews travelling together so i assume she was part of this family but no trace
Frederick Parker Born 1851 Colnbrook
Mother Sarah Parker, born 1822 Frensham
Father Mark Parker, born 1819 Ash, Surrey,
Marks Mother and Father were:
Mark Parker, place of birth unknown
Elizabeth Parker ditto unknown
Alaso found marriages into the Hoadleyfamily of travellers from Leicester (Samson Hoadley) and into the grainger and Carey families of travellers
I am also looking for trace of one of my Great grandmothers, name Charlotte Palmer, born about 1868, Walton on the Hill, no trace of her birth or any marriages but each time i find her she is with a different man and has changed the surnames of her children, i am reliably informed that they were originally travellers
i am happy to share any of this information, it is becoming quite an epic now!!
happy hunting, hope this is useful
Neil
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I just discovered this website/forum whilst doing a search for 'Grainger' as part of my family history research. From the ayres?parker thread, I would be very interested in your offer for information concerning the following:
since my original posting re: Parkers, i have managed to put together quite a comprehensive history, although there is no direct link between the Parkers and Ayres and eyres) family it would seem that they travelled around in the same groups from one location to another in the late 1800's, i found Parkers, Careys and Eyres in vans picking fruit near Dartford)
If anybody is interested i have links to other travellers that married Parkers
These are
Graingers from Frimley area but originally from Tadley area
May I ask, how do you find information regards the itinerant families? I'm having trouble finding anything at all so any advice would be most appreciated. Thank you.
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Hi there
i am afraid you really have to be very lucky and hope they were caught in a census, if not parish records and free BMD are the only option
let me know if there is any particular person or family and i will see if i have anything on them
Neil
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Specifically it's the Grainger family from Tadley that I am researching.
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I have census records of Graingers living in Frimley, Surrey,
William Grainger, B1810 Old Basing, married to Diane Parker B 1807 Preston Candover
They were married about 1827, one of their children Mathias Grainger was born in Tadley in 1828
i have attached a copy of the 1871 census showing William Grainger in Frimley
regards
Neil
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Many thanks, neilpms.
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i have at last found out the roots of Mark Parker, i have his baptism record from Ashford in Middlesex in 1841, funny thing is there is nothing in BMD
I know that his parents were my GG grandparents, Mark and Sarah Parker
Mark born 1819 Ash Common to travelling chimney sweep Mark Parker and his wife Elizabeth, they were living in a caravan at Longerend farm, Ash
I cannot find any record of Mark or Elizabeths births, i did find Elizabeth in the 1851 census living in Frimley next door to her daughter Dinah grainger (nee Parker), she died the same year, her place of birth is Unknown
Sarah and Mark or their son Mark dont turn up in any census returns until 1871, by this time Marlk senoir had died in 1866 in Epsom
Sarah was born in Frensham, Surrey in 1821 to John and Sarah Wilson, John was a "Chair Bottomer" from East Acton
Mark junior turns up in every census from 1871 to 1911 either lving in Cheam or sometimes on Epsom Common, with wife Alice and loads of kids, they had 11, 2 of which died in infancy
Mark and Alice were married in Claygate in 1865
the only other record i have of Mark Parker senior is at his daughter Matildas wedding in Barking in the 1850's, she married Samson Hoadley from a travellers family which originally came from Leicester
I have a tree for the Parkers going back to the late 1700's if anyone is interested
i have a very interesting piece from a Surrey newspaper which tells of the death of sarah from a binge drinking session, the headline is "warning to all drunkards", quite a thing from in 1882 i should think, it tells how she was taken home from the pub in Frimley on a hand cart by her daughter and left in a chair where they found her in the morning
Neil
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Hi NeilPMS
I note that you say that some of your Parkers married into the Carey family. I'd be interested to hear about these Careys as some of my Draper family in Beds/Bucks/Middlesex used Carey as an alias. I therefore collect references to both, just in case.
Curiously, I've also found Drapers in the same general area occasionally using the name Parker.
And finally, I picked up a note from the Gypsy Collections at Liverpool University many years back that claimed that Palmer was an alias sometimes used by the Penfold/Pinfold family.
Food for thought! :)
Best wishes
Sharon
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Hi there
the only record i have of Carey's marrying into the Parkers that i know is Annie Carey, born 1887 Bisley, Surrey
Married my Great Uncle Joseph Parker
they are in the 1911 Census, living on Chobham Common in a tent
Joe later sold wood from a house in Bagshot
i did notice that there always seemed to be Carey's, Mathews and Penfold families living nearby whenever i did find the very elusive travelling Parkers
hope this is useful
Neil
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Hi Neil..
You have mark and Alice Mark and Alice marrying in Claygate in 1865
Was Alice an Ayres? If so what do you have on her father. Was it Henry/Joseph Ayres.
Do you know who Marks brothers were? Possibly Henry Noah John and James.
This is the info I have been given by other parker researchers. Just wondered if it's correct. There's so many Parkers it's almost as bad as looking for Smiths.
Regards,
Jim
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Definitely Henry Ayres as the father of the bride
Mark Parker as father of the Groom
you can find it on www.familysearch.org or get a certificate by using www.freebmd.org.uk
chidren i found on the census returns were
Mark born 1868 Redhill
John 1870 East Grinstead
Leonard 1875 Cheam
Mary Ann 1875 Cheam (twins?)
William 1877 Cheam
Sarah 1880 Kent
Fred 1891 Cheam
Louisa 1883 Cheam
Dela 1886 Cheam
Alice 1888 Cheam
Alice Ayres was born in about 1845 at Hadlow near Tunbridge wells in kent
hope this is useful
Neil
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hi Neil
Thanks for that - So Alice looks to be the daughter of Henry and Olive Ayres.
Although the 1851 census has her as born in Kent Bessel age 12.
If that is correct then I believe she is the sister to my gr/gr grandmother Louisa Ayres who married John James (this is my fathers family).
If your Mark (who married Alice) had a brother Henry then I have a second link because Henry may be the one who married Vileta which would make him my gr/gr/grandfather on my mothers side.
Have you seen the Dixon family tree on Ancestry for the Ayres connection?
Regards,
Jim
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a later census has her born in Cahill in Kent
i havent seen the Dixon tree, will have peep at it
I have never found Marks seniors brother Henry although i do have records of his other brothers and sisters, Frederick, James, Job and Matilda
i have some good stuff on Sarah and Mark if you let me have your email, newspaper cuttings, original baptisms and a marriage certificate together with census records for 1871 and 1881, Mark died in Epsom in 1866 but no sign of him living with Sarah at this time, i found him as a witness to his daughter Matildas wedding in the early 1860's in Barking
i cant believe how many hits this subject has had
regards
Neil
regards
Neil
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just signing into this one as my mate stupots is interested in this family.
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Hi Neil,
haven't been able to do much for the past few days as the computer is throwing a fit and won't start up - and when it does it crashes again. Hopefully getting my new one tomorrow.
The Parkers are very confusing and it's hard to work out who is brother / sister to who. I am not sure if my Henry born 1848 is the son of your Mark, so I will have to do a bit more digging.
I have seen a tree that shows the following.
Marriage Mark Parker to Sarah Wilson 28 APR 1849 Ash, Surrey, England - this is on IGI.
Parents of Mark - Mark Parker born 1787 Buckland surrey. Elizabeth born 1797 Buckland surrey.
Children of Mark and Elizabeth are shown as Mark B 1851, James Born 1857, Job, B 1858, Andrew B 1866.
Not sure if this is correct but thought it might help.
Regards,
Jim
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Jim
i wouldnt take any notice fo the Buckland connection, i have seen the complete parish transcripts and there is notihng in there about mark and Elizabeth
Elizabeth did not know where she was born in the 1851 census taken in Frimley
you are correct with Mark and Sarahs children, they also had a daughter called Matilda, she married Samson Hoadley and shows up travelling alongside other Parkers in Washington rd Cheam in 1881 and in Woking in later census returns
their son Frederick, born Colnbrook 1851 Colnbrook near Hayes Middlesex was my Paternal Great Grand Father
if you would like some fo the records i will happily email them to you if you let me have your address
regards
Neil
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Thanks Neil,
I will send you a PM with my email addy.
A Question for you or anyone else. The IGI information - is it reliable? My gr/gr grandads marriage is on there for 1870.
Henry Parker to Videtta Lambert and it shows his father as Mark. Now is this info coming from actual records or from someone's tree?
Jim
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i am now looking for a female parker marriage to a matthew godfrey if any one has any info
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her name was eliza and they had a son too called matthew in 1839,
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Hi Neil,
just looking at your earlier posting on this thread and you said
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"I have Henry Bowers marrying my Great Aunt Mary Ann Parker in 1901
Henry was born in Pyrford 1880, May Ann in Leatherhead in 1880"
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Looking at other trees on Ancestry they suggest that Henry Bowers is the son of either Robert Bowers and Margeret or John Bowers and Rhoda - I am not sure which is correct.
In either case Henry would be the grandson of William Walker Bowers and Maria Myra James.
So we also have My Henry Parker Married to Viletta Bowers daughter of William Walker Bowers and Maria Myra James. Another family link I think.
What do you think.
Jim
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Hi Neil,
I have just read your threads about the Parkers and would love to have a copy of the Parker tree you have painstakingly compiled - are you able to email it?
I am not from the Parker line, but have just started researching for my friend, who is the Grandaughter of Amy Parker circa 1893, born to Frederick Parker 1855, Surrey.
Do you have any photos of the Parkers?
Anything you can share would be gratefully received.
Debra
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I am doing the Parker family tree Mark Parker born abt 1842 married Alice Ayres and had 12 children
Matilda, Mark, John, Elizabeth, Leonard, Maryann, William, Sarah, Louisa, Dela, Alice, and Frederick
Matilda owned a public house and cottages in Wimbledon and Maryann owned a public house in Epsom but l cannot find either one on any census nor can l find anything about the other girls once they had left home. Mark senior was a licenced hawker and bought horses from the Russian boats l think in Kingston my grandfather Frederick left the Romany way of life and moved to Carshalton but the rest of the family stayed around the Cheam area any help would be appreciated as my father is elderly and would like to know more about his family ???
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Hi There
if you would like to send me your email i can give you a link to the Parker tree i have posted on the web
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regards
Neil
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Thanks Neil,
I will send you a PM with my email addy.
A Question for you or anyone else. The IGI information - is it reliable? My gr/gr grandads marriage is on there for 1870.
Henry Parker to Videtta Lambert and it shows his father as Mark. Now is this info coming from actual records or from someone's tree?
Jim
That entry is an extracted entry. That is, copied from the parish records, and it has a batch number. But mistakes can still creep in during the copying.
If an entry is a submittedentry it can often be a load of wishful thinking, and isn't usually to be relied on.
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the parents of noah parker born 1856 epsom are john and ann parker..
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Hi I've been researching my Brockhurst roots and now am starting on my mums side, Parker/Sopp/Bowers.
I know this is a fairly old thread but, I'm interested in any information on Viletta Bowers born in Godalming (my gggrandmother) and any Parkers related to her, as the name is very common in Surrey I'm having great trouble in getting the right family.
Any help would be really appreciated.
Thanks
Peter
(my wifes login, I'm not an Annie....)
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Hi Peter,
My partner's grandmother was Dorothy May Parker, born 1901, granddaughter of Henry and Viletta/Violetta.
Perhaps we can pool our knowledge?
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Hi sounds a good plan.
So your partners relationship to Henry and Violetta is they are Great Great Grandparents?
If it is that's the same for me, I've had a look at my tree and it looks like their son, my great grandfather John Parker born 1877 was brother to Albert born around 1882? who is I think your partners great grandfather, that's where we split families.
I've also got that there were 9 children born to Henry and Violetta.
I've got that Albert married an Isabel White, does that sound right? the problem is that there are so many Parkers around that its easy to get the wrong marriages and children.
I'm happy to share information, as it took me two years to prove who my grandfather was! The Parker line only stopped at my mum.
Are you on Genes Reunited?
regards
Peter
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yes, looks like it's the same family. I am on Genes Reunited although the family tree isn't. My user name is the same as on here
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Have just discovered this web-site. My Grandfather was called Mark Parker. According to the 1901 & 1911 census he was born in Chertsey in 1864. According to his marriage cert. his fathers name was John Parker, Labourer I can find no record of him prior to his marriage in 1890. He married Eliza Turner and had 10 children, one of whom was called Dorothy May. I was always told he was a traveller and settled down when he married.I have been searching for him for several years now so any help or advice would be appreciated.
Joan