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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Mayo => Topic started by: Ian in Wigan on Wednesday 26 January 05 11:54 GMT (UK)
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Hi,
I'm looking for any links or info however small with regards to my McIntyre family research,
It says that my gg-grandfather Michael McIntyre was born in Co Mayo on the 1871 census for Wigan, Lancs, Eng.
Michael was born about 1848.
Any help or info with regards to my McIntyre family would be very much appreciated,
1871 Census, RG 10/3884 Folio 160, 64 Platt Lane, Wigan
Michael McIntyre head marr. 23 Mine filler at Ironworks Ireland Co. Mayo.
Margaret McIntyre wife 21 Wigan
Hugh McIntyre son 1 month Wigan
Thankyou for your time,
Best Wishes & Kind Regards,
Ian in Wigan, Lancs.
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Ian
there is some family Mcintyre in co Mayo on the BVI but the first record is 1868 if it might help I could send it for you
audrey
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Thankyou so much Audrey for your very kind help,
It would be great to receive any info on McIntyre,
Thankyou for your time,
Very Best Wishes,
Ian
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Thankyou so much Audrey for your very kind help,
It would be great to receive any info on McIntyre,
Thankyou for your time,
Very Best Wishes,
Ian
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thats done
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Thankyou Audrey,
I will keep the info on file for future reference
Thanks for your time,
Very Best Wishes,
Ian
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Hello Ian,
I too have an interest in a McIntyre family born in Ireland and living in Wigan in 1881.
My great grandfather Michael McIntyre born abt 1853 in Ireland was living in Wigan in the 1881 census with his widowed mother Mary born abt 1820 in ireland and Sister Annie McIntyre born abt 1960 in Ireland. Michael's father was Owen McIntyre born abt 1820 in Ireland but was deceased at the time of the 1881 census.
I wondered whether you had come across these names during your research.
Regards
Jenny White
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Hey Jenny
I am a descendant of Michael McIntyre too from Wigan (married to Mary Taberner). His son James McIntyre is my great grandfather. The furthest I could trace this line back was a William and Mary Taberner living in a Lancashire village in the late 18th century. Where do you fit into the puzzle? Have you found anything further out?
Therese
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Hi Therese, it's quite a while since I did any family history so it's a surprise to hear from you. Your great grandfather James McIntyre was a younger brother to my grandfather John Michael Mcintyre born 6 Nov 1887 in Wigan, parents Michael McIntyre and Mary Taberner. I have traced Mary Taberner back through her father Peter Taberner and mother Isabella Wright, and Peter's parents Thomas Taberner and Elizabeth, but after that things got a little muddled, so nothing definite on them. I have details on the other people I mentioned but nothing specific on Thomas and Elizabeth Taberner I'm afraid. I'll have to start looking again. I hit a lot of dead ends a few years ago so things might be different now. Don't suppose you have any more info on the McIntyre line in Ireland, that too was a dead end before Michael and is mother and sister but I do have some info on them too. Don't know what you have so don't want to duplicate anything.
Regards Jenny
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Hey Jenny
I am so thrilled you wrote back, especially given the length of time since you wrote the post. Sadly I have no more information on the McIntyre side - other than that they may have been from Donegal which you may already know. The Irish records are just not as easily obtainable I have concluded.
Would love to hear more about the Taberners and Wright family ( if you have the time of course). Are you still living in the greater Manchester area or did your family move away? I grew up in Coventry but have actually just moved to South Manchester for work.
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Hey Jenny
I am so thrilled you wrote back, especially given the length of time since you wrote the post. Sadly I have no more information on the McIntyre side - other than that they may have been from Donegal which you may already know. The Irish records are just not as easily obtainable I have concluded.
Would love to hear more about the Taberners and Wright family ( if you have the time of course). Are you still living in the greater Manchester area or did your family move away? I grew up in Coventry but have actually just moved to South Manchester for work.
Why not? R.C Registers are online free as per announcement in
Ireland Resources
Roman Catholic Parish Registers 32 counties Ireland thread!
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Thanks Hallmark. Just was told that the records weren't as thorough and some records office burned down? Anyway, glad that was fake news and I will look into the link you provided. Cheers!
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Thanks Hallmark. Just was told that the records weren't as thorough and some records office burned down? Anyway, glad that was fake news and I will look into the link you provided. Cheers!
Don't mind that rubbish..... some Church of Ireland registers were burnt in a small fire in Dublin.
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In 1922, the Public Record Office in Dublin was burned and almost all of the Prerogative and Diocesan Wills, marriage records, census records and other classes of records of genealogical interest were destroyed or badly injured. Some valuable collections of records in the fireproof strongroom were saved. These included the Lodge Manuscripts, which consist of a series of volumes from the Patent Rolls of Henry VII, James I, Charles I and Charles II, abstracts of the Catholic Convert Rolls, being alphabetical lists of Catholics who renounced their church (usually temporarily) to avoid persecution, save their property, or to hold office, etc.
There are two lists of converts, c. 1703-1772, 1709-1773; and one list, 1662-1737, of Protestants who, upon coming to Ireland, took the Oath of Allegiance.
One of the most valuable collections acquired, which for the genealogist, repaired the loss of the Prerogative Wills, is the great collection of 241 volumes of the Betham Genealogical Abstracts.
After the fire, appeals were made throughout Ireland, England, Scotland, and America, for all who had copied the records during the past 53 years, to send their copies or transcripts, abstracts, or notes, to replace the burned records.
It was known that a large number of original records (wills, marriage records, parish registers, etc.) had never been sent to this office and these or copies were requested.
The appeals brought tremendous response. Legal (solicitors') offices, governmental, historical and genealogical repositories in Ireland and abroad sent original records, transcripts, abstracts, and notes from the burned records, as gifts or on loan for copying.
Genealogical collections representing the life work of great genealogists such as Betham, Crossle, Groves, Sadleir, etc., were given or sold to this office.
Individuals by the hundreds sent collections of family documents covering several generations.
Several hundred parish registers of baptism, marriage and burial, either original or transcripts, were in local custody at the time of the fire, and so were available.
The card index of testamentary documents is very extensive; it indexes many thousands of wills, duplicates and official plain copies of wills, grants of administrations, and original unproved wills never lodged for probate, which became too numerous after 1936 any longer to index in the Reports.
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Oh good (not for those in Dublin of course!), but there is hope then in tracing my ancestors. Thanks for your help. Just started the search but it hasn't been straightforward' :)
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https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp for 1864 and after
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/civil-records/help/what-are-the-civil-records
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/civil-records/help/what-civil-records-are-on-line
https://www.swilson.info/regdistmap.php select county to get DISTRICTS FOR THAT COUNTY
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Thanks. That's my evenings sorted this week when the kids are in bed!
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I can only offer a Robert McIntyre b 1879 Liverpool area, no relation to yours, I'm sure, who is linked to my OH, and married a Jane Ann Unsworth in 1900 in Sacred Heart RC church Westhoughton / Wigan area - but the records of that and several other RC churches in Lancs are on Lancashire Parish Clerks online, and there's a free site called "Wiganworld" where there are some people who are really good at finding ancestors, they helped me a few years ago, from a very flimsy start where I knew very little, and helped me trace what I later managed to confirm fully.
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Thanks. That's my evenings sorted this week when the kids are in bed!
That's your evenings sorted for 2018 when the kids are in bed! ;D :o
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Thanks too ThrelfallYorky for your links! So many great tips today - I feel so much more informed now.
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my grandfather John Michael McIntyre (we always called him Poppa) and his wife Jane Gornall left Wigan for Yorkshire around 1910 and settled originally in Wombwell near Barnsley, Yorkshire. They moved with Jane's father and some of her brothers to work in the coal mines. They later moved to the Pontefract area in Yorkshire, again for coal mining. Thus is where I was brought up but I have lived in Doncaster since I married. My mum, my grandfather's youngest child, will be 89 next month and still lives in the Pontefract area. She never knew any of her own grandparents as she was a late addition to the family. I am going to try and add an attachment to this message, it is some information and my notes on what I found a few years ago on the families I mentioned, you may want to check now. If you do find any mistakes or can add anything to it would be appreciated. You have given me the incentive to start researching again. If I can help in any way let me know. My mum tells me that she recalls some of her dad's family visiting them from Wigan and I too have a vague memory of this, not sure if any of them was your great grandfather. She says some of them visited whilst attending the races, Doncaster hosts the St Leger Classic horserace every September. If you cant open the attachment let me know.
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Hi Therese
James McIntyre was my grandfather, my mother was his daughter Elsie and I am guessing that your grandad was her brother Jim who lived in Coventry. If I am correct your grandmother was Bridie and your father must be Michael or Paul McIntyre. If I’m right do get in touch as we are also trying to do a family tree but would love to hear more from you.
Jean
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Hi Jean. That is right! My nan was Bridie and my dad is Paul McIntyre. Where are you based now? We were in Coventry but I live in Greater Manchester now. Lovely to hear from you.
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Hi I still live in Wigan as do most of the family, if you’re in greater Manchester you can’t be too far away from me. Your grandad’s youngest brother, Roy, only lives a couple of miles from me and I am going to try and see him over the next few days as I’m sure he would be delighted to see the photograph of his parents. How far did you get with the family tree, my daughter made a start a few years ago but got stuck after a couple of generations.
Perhaps we could meet up sometime.
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Hi Jenny,
I have just come across your post and I’m the last Taberner standing from this branch, as far as I know. It’s been wonderful to read about your research as I know very little about the Wigan-based Taberner line, so thank you.
My grandparents are JOHN TABERNER & DOROTHY SMITH (both passed away in August 1996 in Wigan). My mother only passed the TABERNER name to me, and my uncle has no children, so it’s just me and I’m now married.
John also had a sister JEAN TABERNER in Parbold. She married into the HEATON family.