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I am researching the LONG family history in Yorkshire and would be very interested in contacting others researching the same area.
Here are some facts about my family.
The earliest reference I have is ROBERTE (or Robertus, or Robti) LONGE of Winsley Hall, Clint (near Ripley or Burnt Yates) who lived from about 1535 to 1607. The main branch of the family lead down to ADMIRAL ROBERT LONG who founded Burnt Yates School in the 1760s.
I am descended from one of the later younger sons and the family had settled at Whipley Moor Farm at least by the time of THOMAS LONG (born 1731) whose son BARNABAS LONG (1764 to 1821) inherited Whipley Moor Farm and married ANN UMPLEBY. The descendents of BARNABAS and ANN are now found all over the world. BARNABAS and ANN are buried in the graveyard of the church at Ripley.
I am descended from the family of the second marriage of GEORGE LONG (the third son of BARNABAS). CHARLES LONG came to Bradford in the 1840s and established himself as a Master Butcher. CHARLES married ELIZABETH JORDAN and they had six children who survived to adulthood and started families of their own.
I am descended from CHARLES's third son JOHN LONG.
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Hello Tyke
I am also a descendant of Barnabas Long via his daughter Mary who married William Bayne in 1812. William and Mary Bayne are also buried in Ripley churchyard, near to Barnabas Long's grave. I also have records from Robert Long 1533/34 plus those of some of the female line marrying in. I had always thought that Thomas Long was married to Ann Dousland (IGI) but have recently found out he was married to Jane Horsman, at least she was a second wife and mother of his children. Do you know anything of this?
Look forward to an exchange of information.
Di2 :)
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Hello Tyke,
I don't know if I can help, but I do know that in this kind of research, even seemingly irrelevant pieces of jigsaw can be useful. My information may not be from the same branch of your family.
I'm a descendant of Henry W. Long, who was General Manager of the Britannia Mills, Leeds, during some time in the late 19th century, and who lived in Yeadon, where we have a family "slot" of some kind in the churchyard. I have only been there once, 40 years ago. Henry Long's son (or could it be grandson?) Joseph Pullen Long was my grandfather, and he married Maud Bland, a daughter of a bank manager in Guiseley, some time before or near the start of the First World War. Their married life was in north London, where he was a school-teacher.
Currently I am not in the UK, but during the next few months, if you need, I can get more information from my father if necessary, since he has some documents relating to the inheritance of woollen mills, dating, I think, from 1720. I have never felt a personal need to delve into the family history because much of it seemed to be known already, although to what level of accuracy I am uncertain.
Best of luck on your quest.
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Hello Di2
Thanks for this - this is really interesting.
The information I have is:
Robert Longe (1535 to 1607) married Ellene Hill and were the parents of:
William Longe (1567-?)
Robert Longe (1572-1579)
Xpoferus - probably Christopher - Longe (1578-?)
Gracie Longe (1579-?)
Hellena Longe (1580-?)
Katherin Longe (1581-1581)
Katherina Longe (1582-?)
Robert Longe (1583-?) who married Ann (birth name unknown)
Maria Longe (1584-?)
Matheus Longe (1586-1586)
Gracie Longe (1588-?)
Suzanna (1589-1591)
I think that Robert Longe had a brother William Longe (1540-1581) who married maudin or Margaret and has a son called William Longe born in 1564.
Robert Longe (1583-?) who married Ann (birth name unknown) had children:
Ellen Long (1606-?)
Christopher Long (1610-?) who married Rosamund Waddington
Christopher Long (1610-?) who married Rosamund Waddington has children:
6 unknown children
Robert Long (1636-?) who married Sarah Oates
Robert Long (1636-?) who married Sarah Oates and had the following child:
Robert Long (1664-?) who married Edith (birth name unknown)
Robert Long (1664-?) who married Edith (birth name unknown) and had the following children:
Barnabas Long (?-?) who married Lucy Rentford
Christopher Long (1701-1764) who married 4 times - Edith (birth name unknown), his cousin or niece Sarah Long (1705-1733), Mary Leeming (1711-1753) and Mary Spink (1730-?) who later married a man called Dean
Christopher Long (1701-1764) by wives other than Sarah had the following children:
Mary Long (1735-?)
Elizabeth Long (1737-?)
Christopher Long (1739-1739)
Christopher Long (1740-?)
Christopher Long (1754-?) who had a daughter Hannah (1775-?)
Robert Long (1758-?)
William Long (1762-?)
Christopher Long (1701-1764) by Sarah Long his cousin or niece had the following children:
Sarah Long (1726-?)
Elizabeth Long (1729-1730)
Thomas Long (1731-?) who married first Jane Horsman (?-?) and then Ann Douseland (?-1753)
Thomas Long (1731-?) who married first Jane Horsman (?-?) and then Ann Douseland (?-1753) had the following children:
Sarah Long (1751-1766)
Barnabas Long (1764-either 1811 or 1821) who married Ann Umpleby
Thomas Long (1786-?)
Barnabas Long [/b] (1764-either 1811 or 1821) who married Ann Umpleby (1768-1830) had the following children:
Ann Long (1784-1861) who married Richand Burrill (1782-1858)
Barnabas Long (1785-?) who married Mary Hutchinson
Godfrey Long (1788-?) who married Ann (birth name unknown)
Jane Long (1790-?)
Mary Long (1792-?) who married William Bayne
George Long (1793-1839) who is my ancestor who married firstly Elizabeth Lambert and then Elizabeth Reynard (1802-?) who then married a man named Clarke
Thomas Long (1795-1851) who married first Abigal (birth name unknown) and then Eleanor Rendle (1792-1872)
Unknown female (1797)
John Long (1788-?)
Christopher Long (1802-?)
Richard Long (1804-?)
Elizabeth Long (1806-?)
Francis Long (1809-?)
Sarah Long (1810-?)
I'm afraid that a lot of this has yet to be cross-checked.
I also have a lot of the information on the descendants of George Long.
Glad to share information with you - write soon
Tyke
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Hello Woollens
Thanks for this.
As far as I know the Longs in Yeadon were established for a long while before my branch of the Longs moved away from Ripley - however I don't know this for certain (there are many Longs whose descendants I have yet to trace). I would be very interested for any information you are able to share.
Are you related to the Henry Longs who have the transport business?
Look forward to hearing from you
Tyke
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Hi Tyke
I'll try to find out what I can. My father may be able to help but it will take some months - he's 88 and I'm often abroad. I know nothing of the transport Longs; I'm the last of a very small, mostly school-teaching, branch of the family. I was born in north London.
More when I have something. atb.
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Thanks Woollens
Much appreciated
Cheers
Tyke
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Hello Tyke
Sorry I have been so long replying, its been very hectic at work. I think my research ties in with yours. I have to confess I got most of it from a lady who has been researching for 20 years. I came across her while researching the Bayne family. She has sent me a lot of stuff including wills and information on some of the female lines marrying in. I think it would be easier if I photocopied it and posted it to you as there is a lot and much of it on back to back file cards. You may not wish to put your address on here so will put my email address if that's allowed. Email address removed
Best wishes
Di2
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Thanks Di2
I've replied to your note directly by email but here's my email address so that's its available for anyone reading this topic:
email address removed no longer in use
Tyke
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Hi Tyke.
I don't know if I can help but I can tell you what I know.
My Great grand father Henry Long, or his dad by the same name, began Longs Transport in Bradford. During WW2 this was bought by the government. After the war my grandad, Harold Long, and his cousins bought the company back.
My grand father was in the RAF during WW2, posted in either Africa or India. When he returned he married Shelia (who worked in Yeadon).
Henry Longs Transport was sold over 30 years ago. I know this because I'm now 26 and I can't ever remember him owning it.
Harold had 2 children, a boy (now aged about 57) and a girl (now aged 51). The boy had two children, a girl who's now 30 and a boy who's 27. The girl had two daughters, me and my sister who's 23.
My mum and uncle are both married. My Gran and granddad died around 20 years ago.. My Gran from elderly illnesses and my granddad from a heart attack.
I hope this has been of use to you,
RAF wife.
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Hi Tyke,
I have a brief reference in a book dated 1882 as follows:-
Long,Rear-admiral Robert, is said to have been born at Winsley Hall, near
Ripley. He erected and endowed the Burnt Yates School, near Ripley,
in the year 1760. Hope this helps any Longs researching their Yorkshire roots,
Tomkin
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Tyke
My connection with this family is through Ann Long, sister to Rear Admiral Robert Long. She married Thomas Kingsman in 1709. Their grandson, William Long Kingsman (b1747) founded a small dynasty of ivory turners in London. William appears also to have inherited substantial land from both his grandmother and from his great Uncle Robert.
I know from Ann Kingsman's will that she and Robert had at least one other brother, William.
I do not have birthdates for any of the Longs, only dates of death from their wills. Ann in 1758, Robert in 1771 and William between 1753-1758.
Recorded dates in Robert's naval career were:
From Commissioned Sea Officers of the Royal Navy (1660-1815), he was appointed:
Commander 3 Oct 1719
Captain 21 Mar 1727
Superannuated as Rear Admiral before 1748
Died 6 July 1771
Robert Long was Rear Admiral of the Blue in 1752 - he is named as such in the Will of Thomas Kingsman (his nephew).
I have lots of information on the Kingsman descendants from this line if you are interested.
Could you please let me know how Robert Long the admiral fits in witht he line you gave before starting at Robertus in 1583 - I couldn't spot his name in your list.
Regards
Derrick
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I have some info on LONGs of Yeadon and Bradford through a relative Jabez LONG b 1821 in Yeadon who married Jane RAWNSLEY. Some of their family then moved to Shipley.
Any use?
Abbey
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I am descended of John W Long (1798-1886) son of Barnabas & Ann Umpleby Long. Their 9th child. John was baptized Jan 4 1799 and worked as a butcher.
John married Elizabeth Strangeway in 1831 in Ripley. Source: FamilySearch.org Indexing project (batch) Number: M01424-1 System Origin: England-ODM GS Film Number: 0038551, 0207572, 98551. They moved to United States around 1842 and started their life in Maine, Cook County, Illinois. Maine is now named Glenview. They are both buried at Northfield Oakwood Cemetery in Northfield, Cook County, Illinois. Source: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=25149558
I am researching the LONG family history and would be interested to be in contacting with other researchers connected to the LONG's.
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I've done a fair amount of work on your Long family, my link being through Robert Long who founded the school at Burnt Yates. Your ancestor Barnabus was recorded as being a scholar there in 1767.
Andrea Ives has written a book about the founding of this school "Admiral Long's Foundation & Burnt Yates School", which has quite a lot of incidental information about the Long family there as they were intimately involved with the school at that time.
Information about the London end of the Long family is posted on my Kingsman website at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kingsman including transcripts of the wills of the Longs of this family who had moved to London (in the documents section).
I believe, but have no direct proof, that Barnabus was the son of Thomas Long of Ripley. This is based only on the only two Long family charity scholars in Burnt Yates school in 1767 being Thomas and Barnabus. This Thomas was most likely s/o Thomas (baptised 1756) but I have found no corresponding baptism for Barnabus. There were five other Long families in the area having children at that time, Barnabus could alternatively be the child of one of these others.
I'm very happy to share my notes and observations, but they are all in an excel file which cannot be attached on the mail board here. Drop me an e-mail at docwatto at hotmail stop co stop uk if you'd like a copy.
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A full list of the BMD records of Nidderdale can be viewed here:
www.calverleyinfo.com
Choice of clicking onto Nidderdale or using Vital Records search.
Brian
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Hello Di2
Thanks for this - this is really interesting.
The information I have is:
Robert Longe (1535 to 1607) married Ellene Hill and were the parents of:
William Longe (1567-?)
Robert Longe (1572-1579)
Xpoferus - probably Christopher - Longe (1578-?)
Gracie Longe (1579-?)
Hellena Longe (1580-?)
Katherin Longe (1581-1581)
Katherina Longe (1582-?)
Robert Longe (1583-?) who married Ann (birth name unknown)
Maria Longe (1584-?)
Matheus Longe (1586-1586)
Gracie Longe (1588-?)
Suzanna (1589-1591)
I think that Robert Longe had a brother William Longe (1540-1581) who married maudin or Margaret and has a son called William Longe born in 1564.
Robert Longe (1583-?) who married Ann (birth name unknown) had children:
Ellen Long (1606-?)
Christopher Long (1610-?) who married Rosamund Waddington
Christopher Long (1610-?) who married Rosamund Waddington has children:
6 unknown children
Robert Long (1636-?) who married Sarah Oates
Robert Long (1636-?) who married Sarah Oates and had the following child:
Robert Long (1664-?) who married Edith (birth name unknown)
Robert Long (1664-?) who married Edith (birth name unknown) and had the following children:
Barnabas Long (?-?) who married Lucy Rentford
Christopher Long (1701-1764) who married 4 times - Edith (birth name unknown), his cousin or niece Sarah Long (1705-1733), Mary Leeming (1711-1753) and Mary Spink (1730-?) who later married a man called Dean
Christopher Long (1701-1764) by wives other than Sarah had the following children:
Mary Long (1735-?)
Elizabeth Long (1737-?)
Christopher Long (1739-1739)
Christopher Long (1740-?)
Christopher Long (1754-?) who had a daughter Hannah (1775-?)
Robert Long (1758-?)
William Long (1762-?)
Christopher Long (1701-1764) by Sarah Long his cousin or niece had the following children:
Sarah Long (1726-?)
Elizabeth Long (1729-1730)
Thomas Long (1731-?) who married first Jane Horsman (?-?) and then Ann Douseland (?-1753)
Thomas Long (1731-?) who married first Jane Horsman (?-?) and then Ann Douseland (?-1753) had the following children:
Sarah Long (1751-1766)
Barnabas Long (1764-either 1811 or 1821) who married Ann Umpleby
Thomas Long (1786-?)
Barnabas Long [/b] (1764-either 1811 or 1821) who married Ann Umpleby (1768-1830) had the following children:
Ann Long (1784-1861) who married Richand Burrill (1782-1858)
Barnabas Long (1785-?) who married Mary Hutchinson
Godfrey Long (1788-?) who married Ann (birth name unknown)
Jane Long (1790-?)
Mary Long (1792-?) who married William Bayne
George Long (1793-1839) who is my ancestor who married firstly Elizabeth Lambert and then Elizabeth Reynard (1802-?) who then married a man named Clarke
Thomas Long (1795-1851) who married first Abigal (birth name unknown) and then Eleanor Rendle (1792-1872)
Unknown female (1797)
John Long (1788-?)
Christopher Long (1802-?)
Richard Long (1804-?)
Elizabeth Long (1806-?)
Francis Long (1809-?)
Sarah Long (1810-?)
I'm afraid that a lot of this has yet to be cross-checked.
I also have a lot of the information on the descendants of George Long.
Glad to share information with you - write soon
Tyke
Robert and Ellene Hill had another son Thomas 1587 this is my line.
Rod
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Thanks for all comments in thread about Longs and Longes in Yorkshire, especially re baptisms, marriages and burials in Ripley parish. It is great that the parish for many years noted which part of the parish the person was from e.g.Clint or just C, as it was a multi village parish. Some Longs are also listed as being from Whippley Moor. Some records are civil (or not through the church) and the the village of Clint in Caro we find the hearth tax of King Charles the Second. So glad I noticed this is back online. This gives Mr Longe having two hearths where most villagers had one and some too poor to pay tax on any. Although a number had two hearths, he was the only one where a Christian name was omitted and he just addressed as Mr Longe, suggesting some status in the village. This also led me to look for earlier Longes (as well as Longs) in familysearch. There are quite a number in 1600's and earlier. It might be a family of high status and originally French, but certainly it suggests the West Yorkshire Longs of near to Ripley were the Longes
Ray
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Hello. I’m new to all this. I seem to be related to the Longs via Barnabas’ daughter Elizabeth. I have a lot to research still this is very useful thank you