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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Donegal => Topic started by: Piesang on Thursday 14 August 08 01:36 BST (UK)
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Hello,
I am trying to find any reference to a Michael Docherty (or spelling could be Dockerty) born 1850, Breenagh, co. Donegal. Married Mary (don't know year and marriage could have been in New Zealand). I don't know Mary's maiden name but do know she was born around 1856 and was from co. Kerry. I also know that Michael was a building contractor, so is quite possible that his father was.
If anyone has any information or is connected to the family in any way I would love to hear from you.
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Unfortunately Doherty (and all it's variations in spellings) is probably the most common surname in County Donegal.
If Michael was born around 1850 there will be no birth certificate for him but his marriage certificate (if in Ireland) should list his father's name and occupation. If Michael was a building contractor in New Zealand it may not have been his occupation (or his father's) in Ireland.
To find information on the family in Ireland you need to know at least his father's name before searchig for church records (if they exist) as the surname is such a common one.
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Checkout the 1901 census in parish of Conwal at Lindel's Donegal resources site
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal/1901breenagh.htm
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Interesting link but if Piesang's Michael Dockerty was born 1850 the Michael Doherty age 65 (born c1836) in 1901 census would probably be a bit young to be his father although he could possibly be a cousin or uncle.
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Thanks so far for your responses and help.
Maybe I should look at it a different way. Is there any way of finding out shipping passenger lists for 1850's onwards. I am guessing that Michael Docherty and his wife Mary were married in Ireland and that they had a daughter Kathleen who I know was born in NZ. Kathleen married a Robert James Young, also born in NZ but whose father, Robert Young was from Leeston (anyone know where that is?).
I found some passenger lists for ships going to USA and Australia but nothing to NZ.
Also, I don't know a great deal about Irish history around this time, except that the Potato Famine hit around 1875. Is it possible that Michael & family moved to Engalnd first to escape this. If this is the case, then maybe I need to look up English passenger lists instead?
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Again Lindel's Donegal resources site for passenger lists
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal/donpassnz.htm
Have you looked for Michael's death cert which may give his parent's names.
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This was a great help, thank you, I may have found something, as there are 2 Michael Doherty's listed, both ages are slightly out, but there is also a Mary Donaghy whose age fits and sailed on the Oamaru (town where they both finally settled - might not mean anything but nice coincidence) Don't have Michael's death certificate and couldn't find any reference to it in NZ archives, but will have to have harder look.
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Also, I don't know a great deal about Irish history around this time, except that the Potato Famine hit around 1875. Is it possible that Michael & family moved to Engalnd first to escape this. If this is the case, then maybe I need to look up English passenger lists instead?
Irish Potato Famine was much earlier in 1840s. To go to Australia or New Zealand they probably would have left from an English port.
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A diary of the journey on Invercargill in 1878
http://www.jhdiary.info/diary09.html
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I am a descendant of Catherine (Kathleen) Docherty and Robert James Young and have some info on the Young's side that I can send you if you are interested. Have you had any luck with the Docherty side? I am very interested in finding out more about this side of the family?
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Just wanted to say that I think I have found Piesang on FB, I have just sent her a message to tell her about there new postings, hopefully she will back soon.
Regards
Sarah :)
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Thanks Sarah :) it would be great to hear from her.
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Hi Piesang
Just found a death record for a Michael DOCHERTY at bmd nz online in 1927. He is aged 77.
This may be your Michael but you would need to order the death cert to find out. Better to request a printout as this gives more information than the death cert.
Regards orkrad
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Hello,
I am a descendant of John Doherty of Breenagh in Donegal. I started a new thread because I thought this one was closed. John (1817-1902) and his wife Alice (nee Kelly) had children in the 1850s. The earliest details I can get is for Edward born circa 1851 (who moved to Philadelphia) and Patrick born circa 1852. Is it possible that the Michael you seek is the eldest child?
I am happy to offer the limited information I have.
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Michael and Mary Docherty are buried at Oamaru NZ in adjoining plots. Both died in 1927 and fit the ages. Has anyone been able to contact Piesang? As well as James Birth Reg 1884 and died 1901 age 16. Marriage under Doherty to Mary Hoare in 1882 THEN Alice1882 Doherty. James above . Catherine 1886 Doherty. Patrick Edward 1889. John 1891. Mary 1893. Irene 1894 and Nellie 1895. Those under Docherty.
Michael Snr has a more realistic dates of 1827 -1914 and from what I believe from verbal history will have married twice. 2nd marriage in 1871 to Unity Kelly has his Father as James.
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I am a descendant of John Doherty of Breenagh in Donegal. I started a new thread because I thought this one was closed. John (1817-1902) and his wife Alice (nee Kelly) had children in the 1850s.
1901 Irish census
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Donegal/Seacor/Breenagh/1187350/
Death of John Doherty in 1902
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1902/05695/4605416.pdf
The informant was his daughter Barbara.
Death of Alice Doherty in 1903
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1903/05654/4591639.pdf
The informant was her son Edward.
KG
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I am sorry but this members emails notifications are currently bouncing back to us, it looks like they have changed email address and we currently do not know what the new one is. Old members do frequently get in touch to update details, I hope that this will be the case with this member.
Regards
Sarah
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Thank you.
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donegal resources
http://www.donegalgenealogy.com
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I have made comment on Piesangs other post in regards to Breenagh Dohertys. She was tracking a Michael and Francis. A 1.1% relative has a 1858 Francis Doherty of Brenagh who also came to NZ. But it looks like Francis Doherty parents were Anthony Doherty and Grace nee Galagher both circa 1818 of neighbouring Craghy. Two of our branch from that time were born in Craghy but raised in Breenagh. A Michael Doherty of Breenagh was a witness to Grace Doherty's death in 1873. Perhaps the same Michael who passed in 1927 in NZ. Piesangs family may have verbal memory of brother Francis also coming to NZ.