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Title: withersfield searching for jacobs and bradnan surnames
Post by: azza on Thursday 27 January 05 13:10 GMT (UK)
hi my grany hilda may arthur william jacobs

born 28 april1899 mother name charlotte jacobs formerly vietteridge  my father osman ( noel ) born 1923 holborn district  and he is the lonly child for hilda

i am searching my grand mother sister  i cannot remember her name  got married to bradnan and had two child peter bradnan and a girl also ?

all inwhersfiedl  could i have hope to find any one thanks a lot  azza
Title: Re: withersfield searching for jacobs and bradnan surnames
Post by: Richard Swaffield on Thursday 27 January 05 13:33 GMT (UK)
I assume this is Hilda in 1901 ?

 Arthur Jacobs 28  Withersfield, Suffolk, England Head  Withersfield  Suffolk   
 Charlotte Jacobs 25  Haverhill, Suffolk, England Wife  Withersfield  Suffolk   
 Emily Jacobs 60  Withersfield, Suffolk, England Mother  Withersfield  Suffolk   
 Hilda Jacobs 2  Withersfield, Suffolk, England Daughter  Withersfield  Suffolk

If so, your grt grandmother Charlotte would have been born around 1876 in Haverhill. I can't find any Vietteridge's at all. Have you seen any other spellings ?

Your grandmother's sister is not shown on the 1901, so was either much older (unlikely) or born later. Without her name, or husbands first name, it is going to be tricky. 
Title: Re: withersfield searching for jacobs and bradnan surnames
Post by: azza on Thursday 27 January 05 22:10 GMT (UK)
hi swaffield

yes this is my grany hilda  i amshure but for emily a have some question i am  not sure as two papers are differnt but i am sure that she is the mother of arthur that appear without a father name as he is carrying a w for william can some one have as first name arthur william? as for  vietteridge it is as on the certificate crown copy right that i have  but realy the sound vietteridge  perhaps irish  i dont know/

as for the birth of her sister i am sure that she was born later i mean she is younger than hilda
and her two children  could be still alive  and all are in withersfield tks for yr interest and hope to reunited my chain

i would like to send a special thanks to robert 1 and to my favorite site rootschat thanku again :D :) ;)
Title: Re: withersfield searching for jacobs and bradnan surnames
Post by: krisesjoint on Thursday 27 January 05 23:27 GMT (UK)
Hi Again Azza.....Charlottes name on the cert couldnt be Ketheridge could it? Just Wondering if u may have missread it....As Swaffield says there is no name similar on either census.....On looking for Charlotte in previous census I can c a Charlotte Ketheridge 3 b Haverhill and Family in 1881 and Charlotte Kitteridge 13 Servant in 1891...It is the only Charlotte I can c who looks like a possible...Please take another look at your cert and C if this could be it.
Cheers Kris  :D
Title: Re: withersfield searching for jacobs and bradnan surnames
Post by: krisesjoint on Thursday 27 January 05 23:29 GMT (UK)
Aha Azza   ;)...We have Success!!! I was onto something!  ;D Here is the Marriage  :D

Name:    Kitteridge, Charlotte
Record Type:    Marriages
Quarter:    September
Year:    1898
District:    Risbridge 
County:    Cambridgeshire Essex Suffolk
Volume:    4a
Page:    1276

Name:    Jacobs, Arthur William
Record Type:    Marriages
Quarter:    September
Year:    1898
District:    Risbridge 
County:    Cambridgeshire Essex Suffolk
Volume:    4a
Page:    1276 

Best Wishes....Kris
Title: Re: withersfield searching for jacobs and bradnan surnames
Post by: krisesjoint on Friday 28 January 05 12:39 GMT (UK)
so azza now we have sorted out her name here is Charlotte in 1881 Census  ;)....I think the name is Kitteridge when I look at the scan

 Charles KETHERIDGE   Head   M   Male   27   Ashdon, Essex, England   Bricklayer     
 Ann KETHERIDGE   Wife   M   Female   35   Haverhill, Suffolk, England       
 Priscilla KETHERIDGE   Daug      Female   5   Haverhill, Suffolk, England   Scholar     
 Charlotte KETHERIDGE   Daug      Female   3   Haverhill, Suffolk, England   Scholar     
 Susannah KETHERIDGE   Daug      Female   2   Haverhill, Suffolk, England       

Camps Road
Haverhill, Suffolk, England
RG11/1821 Folio 95 Page 17


And Here she is in 1891 census

RG12/1435 ED 5 Folio 66 Page 14
39 High Street
Haverhill Suffolk


home of James William Sawyer and family

KITTERIDGE
Charlotte Servant 13 b Haverhill Domestic

Cheers Kris  :D

Title: Re: withersfield searching for jacobs and bradnan surnames
Post by: krisesjoint on Friday 28 January 05 13:15 GMT (UK)
and her father in 1871

RG10/1710 ED 2 Folio 24 Page 16
Kates Lane
Saffron Walden Essex


KITTERIDGE James Head 44 Mar b Ashdon Essex Bricklayer
KITTERIDGE Mary A Wife 31 Mar b West Wickham Cambridgeshire
KITTERIDGE Charles Son 17 Unm b Ashdon Essex Bricklayers Labourer
KITTERIDGE Mark 14 b Ashdon Bricklayers Labourer
KITTERIDGE Lizza Dau 7 b Ashdon Scholar
KITTERIDGE Joseph Son 3 b Ashdon
KITTERIDGE Jane Dau 1 b Ashdon
MYNOTT Julia A Dau in Law 11 b West Wickham Cambridgeshire
TAYLOR Edward 8 Son in Law b Hamlet of Bartlaw Essex

This is a Second marriage so this is not Charles Mother...Assume Mary A is mother to youngest 2

KITTERIDGE, James 1866 September Marriages Saffron Walden Essex 4a 527
TAYLOR, Mary A 1866 September Marriages Saffron Walden Essex 4a 527


All the best....Kris  :D

Title: Re: withersfield searching for jacobs and bradnan surnames
Post by: azza on Saturday 29 January 05 14:13 GMT (UK)
Hi Richard Swaffield and Krisesjoint, i just wanted to tell you how thankful i am for your help because a long time ago i sent a mail letter to the address just writing  the name of the man Peter Bradnan, Suffolk Withersfield Haverhill. Surprisingly, he just replied me back confirming that we are relatives from long distance. Anyways  Roots Chat really helped me a lot. thank you very much and hope to talk to you both soon and i'll update you how he found me.

Bye
Azza osman
Title: Re: withersfield searching for jacobs and bradnan surnames
Post by: azza on Saturday 29 January 05 15:34 GMT (UK)
Hi Richard Swaffield and Krisesjoint, i just wanted to tell you how thankful i am for your help because a long time ago i sent a mail letter to the address just writing  the name of the man Peter Bradnan, Suffolk Withersfield Haverhill. Surprisingly, he just replied me back confirming that we are relatives from long distance. Anyways  Roots Chat really helped me a lot. thank you very much and hope to talk to you both soon and i'll update you how he found me.

Bye
Azza osman
Title: Re: withersfield searching for jacobs and bradnan surnames
Post by: krisesjoint on Saturday 29 January 05 20:02 GMT (UK)
Hi Azza...I am Very happy for you...How lovely to have made contact with a living cousin...U must b excited...This looks like your Aunts Birth reference

Name:    Jacobs, Dulcie Rose E
Record Type:    Births
Quarter:    December
Year:    1906
District:    Risbridge 
County:    Cambridgeshire Essex Suffolk
Volume:    4a
Page:    891

With Charlottes Name I suspect u r just reading it wrongly on the certificate....When I look at Kitteridge alongside Vietteridge I can c that with poor writing and fading it could possibly be read this way...As soon as I saw Kitteridge I knew it was right.....I dont think it is so much that they got her name wrong as that it is poorely written

Glad to have been of help to you....May u have many more successes and learn a lot more of the family from your newly found cousin

All the best....Kris  :D

Title: Re: withersfield searching for jacobs and bradnan surnames
Post by: azza on Sunday 30 January 05 12:12 GMT (UK)
Hi Richard Swaffield and Krisesjoint, i just wanted to tell you how thankful i am for your help because a long time ago i sent a mail letter to the address just writing  the name of the man Peter Bradnan, Suffolk Withersfield Haverhill. Surprisingly, he just replied me back confirming that we are relatives from long distance. Anyways  Roots Chat really helped me a lot. thank you very much and hope to talk to you both soon and i'll update you how he found me.

Bye
Azza osman
Title: Re: withersfield searching for jacobs and bradnan surnames
Post by: azza on Tuesday 01 February 05 12:06 GMT (UK)
hi kris

can  u help me to get correct information abt my father as certificate copy of entry of birth number is not clear his name is noel born 1922 holbon and clerkenwell county of london mother name hilda may jacobs  column no is.  250  the application number is unread

thank u for all

azza :)
Title: Re: withersfield searching for jacobs and bradnan surnames
Post by: krisesjoint on Tuesday 01 February 05 20:12 GMT (UK)
Hi Azza.....You can still order your fathers birth certificate even without all the correct numbers.....I do not have any credits at 1837 online to take a look myself....Just Quote his name his actual date of birth since u know that along with the quarter it was registered in and his parents names and u will not be penalised for not having the entire number and will still receive his birth certificate....Best Wishes....Kris  :D
Title: Re: withersfield searching for jacobs and bradnan surnames
Post by: krisesjoint on Tuesday 01 February 05 20:40 GMT (UK)
Hi Azza I realise that I was off finding Charlottes family back through the census returns and realise I did not go any further with Arthur Jacobs family so will try to find that line for u now.....Here is the 1891 census for Arthur

RG12/1436 ED 12 Folio 92 Page 19
Withersfield Suffolk


JACOBS Joseph Head 52 Mar b Withersfield Agricultural Labourer
JACOBS Emily Wife 50 b Withersfield Tailoress
JACOBS Arthur Son 18 Unm b Withersfield Agricultural Labourer
JACOBS Sarah Mother 89 Widow b Withersfield  ? Parish

How lovely to find a parent living with the family again...Wonderful  ;D I Could not read what it said in front of Parish in Sarahs entry but assume she was receiving parish relief


And u may have this entry from 1881 both parents again how fortunate!

 James JACOBS   Head   M   Male   82   Withersfield, Suffolk, England   Ag Lb     
 Sarah JACOBS   Wife   M   Female   79   Withersfield, Suffolk, England       
 Joseph JACOBS   Son   M   Male   43   Withersfield, Suffolk, England   Ag Lb     
 Emily JACOBS   Daughter In Law   M   Female   40   Withersfield, Suffolk, England   Seamstress     
 Mary J. JACOBS   Grand Daur      Female   11   Withersfield, Suffolk, England   Scholar     
 Arthur W. JACOBS   Grand Son      Male   8   Withersfield, Suffolk, England   Scholar     


Withersfield, Suffolk, England
RG11/1822 Folio 103 Page 17
 

Cheers Kris  :D
Title: Re: withersfield searching for jacobs and bradnan surnames
Post by: krisesjoint on Tuesday 01 February 05 20:57 GMT (UK)
1871 census...Arthurs family before his birth

RG10/1711 ED 11 Folio 2207 Page 17
Withersfield Suffolk


JACOBS Joseph Head 32 Mar b Withersfield Ag Labourer
JACOBS Emily Wife 30 Mar b Withersfield
JACOBS Mary Dau 1 b Withersfield

And Quite Close by we Have Josephs Parents  ;)

RG10/1711 ED 11 Folio 204 Page 12
Withersfield Suffolk


JACOBS James Head 70 Mar b Withersfield Ag Labourer
JACOBS Sarah Wife 68 Mar b Withersfield
COLLETT Elizabeth Boarder 57 Widow  b Withersfield Needle Woman
SERVERSON Joseph Visitor 56 Widow b Withersfield Ag Labourer

Best Wishes....Kris  :D
Title: Re: withersfield searching for jacobs and bradnan surnames
Post by: krisesjoint on Tuesday 01 February 05 21:21 GMT (UK)
Here is Arthurs Parents Marriage also

HAZLEWOOD, Emily 1867 June Marriages Risbridge Cambridgeshire Essex Suffolk 4a 555
JACOBS, Joseph 1867 June Marriages Risbridge Cambridgeshire Essex Suffolk 4a 555


And the Death of his father

Name:    Jacobs, James
Record Type:    Deaths
Age at death:    83
Quarter:    September
Year:    1881
District:    Risbridge 
County:    Cambridgeshire Essex Suffolk
Volume:    4a
Page:    297 

and Mother clearly died soon after the 1891 census

Name:    Jacobs, Sarah
Record Type:    Deaths
Age at death:    89
Quarter:    June
Year:    1891
District:    Risbridge 
County:    Cambridgeshire Essex Suffolk
Volume:    4a
Page:    411 

Hope they help

Kris  :D
Title: Re: withersfield searching for jacobs and bradnan surnames
Post by: azza on Thursday 03 February 05 11:29 GMT (UK)
hi kris

thank u very much i want to tell u that bradnan  name is incorrect the name is bradnam with(M) asread in letter received by cousins i am a luky person to join this side and found all these help

THANK YOU DEAR KRIS
azza