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In a family history done in 1889 it states that Jane Younger was alive. She was born in 1792 and on 1881 census was aged 88. She was the daughter of James Hunter.
I have checked Scotlands people and can find no trace of her death listed. Her husband was George Younger, Brewer (of Youngers Brewery) and he was buried in Alloa Churchyard when he died in 1853.
Can anyone help please.
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Her death is showing as indexed:
Jean Hunter/Younger, age 97. Death occured in Alloa, CLACKMANNAN.
Monica :)
Added: Death shows in 1890
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A whopping 15 pages of her last Will & Testament to look at on SP (if your eyes are up to it 8)):
Jane or Jean Younger, 02/08/1890, Mrs, or Hunter, widow of George Younger, brewer in Alloa, d. 08/06/1890 at Nether Carsebridge, Alloa, testate - Inventory; Trust Disposition and Settlement at Alloa Sheriff Court Refs: SC64/42/18
Monica
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Hello
It appears that this is your first foray north of the border? If so, the SP to which Monica refers is to:
www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk a ppv site - £6 buys you 30 credits which will allow you to download 5 entries - which give exactly the same info as certs. With the info you have ,will allow for the download of both death entries and then a further 3 downloads.
The will can be obtained from the same site. - cost of £5.00. With a will you have to select it. It goes into a basket and then you have to pay for it seperately.
Regards, Steve :O)
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Monica and Steve, thank you both so much for your invaluable help. I have been doing Fam History for over 25 years, but had a mental block when inputting only Jane and not trying variants as I usually do. What a wally!
I have a subscription for SP as I have been looking into the extensive Younger Family on and off for a while. My mother was a Younger distantly related (but on the poor side!) to the Brewers. Her gt grandfather James, a Joiner, migrated south, married a girl from Welshpool and settled in Brikenhead where he and his family remained.
Many thanks once again
Angela
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After stumbling upon this thread by accident - I decided to register.
With my interest in the local brewing tradition I have been researching the Youngers of Alloa - and the family connections with other Scottish breweries.
I'm thinking that George (1790-1853) and Jane Younger's (died1890) son James (1818-1868) became head of the Alloa brewery and married Janet McEwan (1823-1912) sister of (the later) Sir William McEwan (1827-1913) who was to become one of Britain's major beer barons.
Another son, Robert (1820-1901) went to Edinburgh and opened his own brewery there.
I am in correspondence with members of both the Alloa and Edinburgh branches of the family - as well as a member of the McEwan-Younger branch.
I'd be happy to help.
The former Meadow Brewery, which included the family home in that period, still survives in Alloa, now converted into flats.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/macalloa/Meadow3.jpg)
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Hi! Just like macalloa, I too have just stumbled over this chatroom by accident. I am also quite interested in part of the Youngers family history... as I have a few Blelochs in our family tree who married Youngers. There were two sisters Mary and Jean who married brothers in 1789. I also have a child of one of these marrying his cousin.. also a Bleloch. This Bleloch family farmed in Clackmannan. If anyone can give me more information to this, or indeed the Youngers who were born to those marriages, I would be most grateful. Many thanks for putting in the photo of the family home... great to see old buildings being restored. Looking forward to hearing from you... Lorrie
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Lorrie21.
I'm no genealogist (did I spell it correctly ?) so please bear with me. The male line of the Youngers quoted followed their fathers as head of the brewery, although not always the eldest sons - I don't have much info on any "missing" sons.
Mary Bleloch (died 1837) married James Younger (1763-1809) in 1789, his father George (1722-1788) had started the family brewing business circa 1764.
Their son George (1790-1853) married Jane Hunter (1792-1890) in 1816.
Their son James (1818-1868) married Janet McEwan (1823-1912) in 1850. His younger brother Robert (1820-1901) moved to Edinburgh and founded his own brewery there in 1854.
Janet's brother was William McEwan who founded the renowned Fountainbridge brewery in Edinburgh - of McEwan's Export fame.
James and Janet had 5 sons and 1 daughter - I have a photo, circa 1858, of Janet and 4 of the boys (the youngest was then unborn) and the girl. This generation, great grandchildren of Mary Bleloch, brought the Younger family to national prominence.
George (1851-1929) became 1st Viscount Leckie - lots of information via 'Google' search engine, or here
http://www.oxforddnb.com/public/dnb/37082.html
His younger brother William became managing director of William McEwan's (his maternal uncle) brewery in Edinburgh in 1886 and guided it into becoming one of the biggest brewing concerns in the UK.
Here is McEwan's background -
http://www.oxforddnb.com/public/dnb/50416.html
Their younger brother James settled in St.Andrews and gifted the Younger Hall to the university.
The youngest brother Robert became a very prominent legal figure, later Baron Blanesburgh.
Would you like me to post the photo mentioned above ?
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Thank you, Macalloa for that information. Your link to the oxforddnb.com has been very useful too!
Mary and Jean Bleloch were two sister who married two of the Younger brothers... Mary married James Younger and Jean married George Younger. However George Younger died at an early age, and his children were brought up by their grandparents from the Bleloch side on the farm.
Mary and Jean were children of John Bleloch and Margaret Hunter. I don`t know if you are from the area yourself, but their family farmed the farm of Gartgreenie over many years.
I have just been on holiday to Scotland and enjoyed the countryside where the farms are in Clackmannanshire.
If it is no trouble to yourself, I would love to see a photo of Mary Blelochs g-granchildren.
I hope it isnt too much to ask whether you also have any photos of the gravestones at Alloa. Mary Bleloch is also buried there amongst the Youngers!
Best wishes for now Lorrie21
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Lorrie21,
Thanks for that. I'll try and digest all these connections later.
I'm a native of Alloa and my family has deep roots here over several generations.
I'll post the photo tonight.
I have photos of the 1st Viscount's grave in Greenside cemetery which includes other family members and that of the McEwan's headstone as well. I also have that of William McEwan's grave at Great Bookham in Surrey.
Clackmannanshire Council have records of burials going way back - that is how I located the Younger and McEwan sites - Greenside has not been used for many years now. I can easily give you their number for further investigation.
I did spot other Younger headstones there - but I was'nt looking for anything earlier than the generation born in the mid 19th century.
If you have an e-mail address I can attach the photos direct, rather than post them all here.
I also have contact details for some current members of various branches of the Younger family - all have been very helpful.
If you have'nt already done so - get down to your local library and dig out Burke's Peerage as it contains extensive details on the Younger family, I found it invaluable. Also, "Who's Who" and "Who Was Who" was very useful.
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Hello Macalloa and Lorrie 21
I have been away and return to find my query has taken on a life of its own. If you send me your email addresses I have a typewritten family history in which you may both be interested. It gives quite extensive details of the family going way back. I have spent some time verifying its validity, but it is very interesting.
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I have just started researching my family tree and I haven't got very far yet. So far I have found that my grandmother, whose name was Jane Edgar Younger, born in December 1879, was the daughter of William Douglas Younger of Alloa, who was born in/around 1848. His wife was Jane Edgar, born in Renfrewshire. William Douglas's father was called Robert Younger (Brewer)
This is as far as I have got but I noticed that 'Macalloa' is researching the Younger family and I wonder if I could ask for help to get a stage further
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Good Morning.
I'm more interested in the local brewing tradition than the genealogy of the Younger/McEwan family, however I have found that helpful.
I assume that Robert Younger (1820-1901) is the member of the Alloa brewing family that interests you ? He moved to Edinburgh circa 1850 and worked for Dryboroughs there before opening his own brewery there in 1854.
His great grandson, David Younger (see below), was co-founder of Broughton Ales near Biggar - and one of their brews, "Scottish Oatmeal Stout" bears the portrait of Robert Younger on the label - see www.broughtonales.co.uk for details etc.
Robert was younger brother of James Younger (1818-1868) who married Janet McEwan (1822-1912), sister of the William McEwan who was to become one of the most famous names in the Scottish (and British) brewing industry.
Robert's parents were George Younger (1790-1853) who married Jane Hunter (1792-1890) in 1818.
Capt. (John) David Bingham Younger lives in the Borders (Blyth Bridge, West Linton) - he helped kindly me with my research. I'm sure he'll be glad to assist.
Hope this helps.
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Thank you for that Macalloa. However I think that maybe I'm on the wrong track because I have a copy of the marriage certificate of William Douglas Younger. It's a bit hard to read but It says that when William Douglas married (1871) his father, Robert was deceased! Thanks anyway.
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OK.
The Younger families used the same male Christain names across the generations.
I have some information gleamed from a copy of a letter that the Scottish Brewing Archives sent me.
Quote - "My great grandfather Robert Younger, b 1802, the father of my granny Anne Younger, was the brother of George Younger, brewer, b 1790, and uncle of James and of Robert Younger who founded St.Anns Brewery in Edinburgh."
I suspect that would be the Robert Younger you are interested in ?
The letter was written in 1996 by a gentlemen in West Lothian in response to research being carried out by Alma Topen for the SBA. I have the address etc., however I would not wish to pass it on without his permission.
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You might be right there Macalloa. They did all seem to give their eldest sons and daughters the same Christian name as their parents. (My own parents fell out with my paternal grandparents because they wouldn't call me Fanny which was a family tradition! I am so grateful to them :) Anyway I am finding it a bit confusing (just the fact that I am trying to research the name ‘Younger’ makes it tricky as the word ‘younger’ is used all the time, ie: younger sister, brother etc!)
Yes, according to his son William’s marriage Certificate, the Robert Younger who was my gg grandfather was a Brewer (deceased) and although William lived in Aberdeen at the time of his marriage, his place of birth was Alloa.
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Yes, I can see how you would be happy at avoiding that given name !!!
;D
I've now come across another excellent source, "An Account of the Family of Younger" by the Rev.A.W.Cornelius Hallen, published 1889.
Here is the reference to Robert Younger that interests you - the son of James Younger (1763-1809)
"Robert, born 15th February 1802, died 10th October 1851, having married at Dumfries, in 1833, Ann McDowall, who died 1884. He had issue -
1. James, born 1834, died 1840.
2. Ann, married 1st __?__Craig, ad, J.Robinson.
3. George born 1838, died 1843.
4. Robert, born 1840, drowned at Alloa Ferry aged 5 years.
5. Mary, married __?__ Hunter, Aberdeen.
6. Hannah, married Robert Glass.
7. James, born 1846, died at Durham 1873.
8. William, born 1848, now in Aberdeen.
9. Robert, born 1850, died at Weston, Co.York 1887
Two sons named Robert - that helps to confuse the issue, literally !!!
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I just stumbled upon this thread last night and couldn't believe my eyes. My grandmother was also Jane Younger born 1879 whose father was william younger born 1848. I never knew the relatives on this side of the family , we must be cousins!
jane had 4 children. Jane, Margaret , Violet and James. I am the youngest daughter of james (and my middle name is younger). You must be the child of one of the daughters. I have a family tree here of the Youngers back to Thomas Younger of Craigton in 1598. Not much information on it though just names and some dates.
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Wow, am I glad I came here.
Macalloa, this is indeed the right Robert Younger. According to William's marriage Certificate his father Robert's wife was Ann McDowell. Thank you very much for your help.
Clootie I think you are my cousin. I am the daughter of Violet and you are one of Jame's two daughters (you were a bridesmaid at my wedding!!)
I'd love to see the family tree (my mother had one too, but I was never able to find it)
Is it OK to put email addresses here?
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Happy to help.
Therefore the bloke in Lasswade must also be your cousin, as far as I can tell.
My e-mail is
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I'm not so sure about the Lasswade connection Macalloa. My grandmother had four children. As Clootie said, they were Jane (Jeannie), Margaret, Violet and James. Jane had one child only (She died in childbirth in what was then Persia) Margaret had no children, Violet had one daughter (me) and James had two daughters. (one being Clootie)
We might be getting to second cousins here :) My email address is (*)
However looking at your excerpt from the Rev Hallan's book, it does seem that Robert's son William, born in 1848 is my gg grandfather (and Clootie's too)
I have a bit of information about William Douglas Younger from the 1881 Census and he had several children. At that time William was 33 years old. His wife Jane (Edgar) was 29 and their children were Robert aged 8, Catherine aged 5, Jane Edgar Younger aged 1. They lived at No 19 South Constitution St, Aberdeen. By the time the next census happened (1891), they had moved and had more children. William Douglas (aged 8 in 1891), James aged 4 and Alexander aged 2.
So quite a lot of family to follow up on :)
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Clootie, if you would like to email me I can send you copies of the various certificates I have which would interest you. Our grandmother's birth certificate, and her marriage certificate when she married James Knox Russell, and her parents marriage certificate (William Douglas Younger and Jane Edgar)
I haven't managed to get any documentation on William's father, Robert Younger and his wife Anne (McDowell) yet, but with all the information from Macalloa :) hopefully I can go a stage further.
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Clootie, I also have several family photographs - ie: family groups, wedding pics, etc which I would be happy to scan and send to you.
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My E mail is (*) . My father was also James knox Russell and he had three daughters. I do remember being a bridesmaid to a relative up in Inverurie when I was about 6yrs old. I remember your name now - I see where your user name comes from. What a small world!
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Yes indeed Clootie. Of course I remember your father, my Uncle Jake, but I didn't know he had three daughters - I thought only two. So maybe it was one of your older sisters who was my bridesmaid. I do recollect that one of them was about 6 years old, the other perhaps a little older - thanks for your email address. I'll send you some of the pics and other info.
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Deemas, I suspect you are correct, second cousin to the Lasswade connection.
I'm no genealogist !!!
Maybe I should set up a website - FamiliesReunited !!!
Two aspects of the Younger clans that I noticed - many of the female members outlive their husbands by many years - and several of the children died young.
Janet Younger (nee McEwan) who was mother of George, First Viscount Leckie, outlived her husband James by 44 years. One of her other 4 sons died aged 15.
A number of the various male lines also died quite young.
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:) You are doing a great job reuniting this family Macalloa. I'm in touch with Clootie and we are going to exchange photographs and information.
I have just started doing this geneaology thing. I was telling my 'new' cousin that I only went to my first class last week (find your ancestors!) and all the information I had at the time was my grandfather and grandmothers names. I've come a long way since then!! and maybe I'm even going to find a Vicount or a Baronet for my family tree! I live in Australia and I reckon when I go back next Monday I'll be top of the class ...unless one of the other people there has found a convict ancestor .... which is quite likely, and over here a convict would definitely trump a Baronet, even if he was a brewer :)
I'm not sure about the women in my family living longer than the men but I have noticed that there seem to be more girls born than boys. My grandfather had three daughters and a son and between the four of them they had five girls and no boys.
I'm not quite sure how I connect to Janet Younger (nee McEwan) who was mother of George, First Viscount Leckie, but I will work on it - always nice to have fancy connections :)
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I have that connection for you on this family tree. It's complex and i dont have the benefit of a class -- i'm impressed.
i will type out the tree and send it to you but can tell you this much.Your grandmother jane younger born 1879 was daughter of william younger born 1848 . He was son of Robert Younger born 1802(?) this Robert's oldest brother was George Younger born 1790 he married jane hunter 1816, their oldest son james born1818 married janet mcewan 1850 and their oldest son was George Younger born 1851 . This george somehow became Viscount Leckie.
follow that if you can!
I also notic ethe girls thing I have one daughter and my sister has three girls - no boys in sight
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Clootie,
George Younger (1851-1929) was made 1st Viscount Younger of Leckie by a grateful Tory Party.
Here's a family photo circa 1859 by my reckoning.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/macalloa/YoungerFamily001.jpg)
He is extreme left. One of the boys, Robert (1861-1946) later Lord Blanesburgh of Alloa was not born at that point . He was a very prominent Law Lord and there is now a prominent Blanesburgh Fellowship at Balliol College, Oxford in his memory.
George took over the running of the family brewery at age 17 in 1868 on the death of his father. Under his stewardship it grew to become the third largest in Scotland - only William Younger (no relation) and William McEwan (his maternal uncle) in Edinburgh were bigger concerns.
He tried unsuccessfully to get into parliament 3 times in the local Clackmannan & Kinross constituencty, however he did stand for Ayr Burghs and was elected at the second attempt in 1906.
He was made Baronet in 1911 and Viscount in 1922. He was Chairman and Treasurer of the Tories - and Chief Whip if memory serves, I would need to double check that.
You'll have heard of the Conservative 1922 Committee ? - Well GY was the principal figure who led the revolt against the continuation of the post war coalition government which result in a Tory victory at the General Election soon thereafter.
That got him his Viscount as a reward. He wanted to be know as Viscount Younger of Alloa, however that conflicted with titles held by the Earls of Mar & Kellie, so he settled for the family estate name of Leckie, which is near Stirling.
There are many references to him if you look up the political referenes to the 1922 story etc.
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Wow I'm more amazed every time I visit this site. To see pictures makes it all so much more real. In my family tree there are george john james william and robert. No mention of a girl who is clearly on the right of the picture. I guess girls weren't important enough to mention.
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Clootie
That's Anne Younger - I suspect she would be called Annie.
In 1878 she married the Rev. D. McLean - they had issue.........don't you just love the term for having children as used in these genealogical references !!!
She died in 1924. Not sure when born, however she looks about 6 years old in that photo - so 1853 or thereabouts ?
If you visit you local library and dig out Burke's Peerage & Baronetage you'll be able to get detailed info on Younger of Leckie, right through to current generations.
Anyway, I need to go and start hoovering before 'er indoors gets home - my ladywife is not so understanding as these Victorian ladies obvioulsy were towards male dominance in society !!!
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Wow, haven't you both been busy while I was asleep. Clootie has sent me a family tree... going right back to 1598 and when I logged in here, lo and behold, a photograph. Thank you Macalloa. A Vicount and a Lord ..... has to beat your average convict :)
It is all very fascinating and I am looking forward to going through all this information.
By the way, I have a son (who looks very like his great grandfather) and he has a son... so not all girls!
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That generation (5 sons and 1 daughter) of the Younger family that resulted from the marriage of James and Janet McEwan was the one which made the family very prominent in Victorian society.
Apart from George and Robert, already mentioned, James (the third son) had Mount Melville built near St.Andrews in Fife, some of his descendants live in the area today. He married Annie, daughter of the wealthy Paton family of Alloa (mill owners) and they lived in Mount Melville from around 1900 - they donated the Younger Hall to St.Andrews University.
William (the 4th son) was taken into his uncle's (William McEwan) brewing business and became Managing Director in 1886 whem William entered the House of Commons.
The second son John died aged 14.
The McEwan side of the family also became very prominent in Edwardian Britain - William married the widow of the brewery porter and gained a stepdaughter, Margaret Anderson - on his death in 1913 she inherited his £1.5 million personal fortune - a vast sum for that time.
She became one of the "in crowd" and friend to royalty etc. The late Queen Mother spent her honeymoon on the estate at Polesden Lacy. The engagement ring (or was it the wedding ring ?) that Prince Charles gave to Camilla came from jewellery that MA gifted to the Queen Mum.
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Fascinating. We seem to have tapped into a rich vein of knowledge! how did your interest in the brewers begin and do you have connections to the families involved?
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I've always been interested in all aspects of local history - and brewing was a major industry in Alloa in the 19th and 20th centuries.
It played a key role in the glass making trade - Alloa Glass Works (now with changed name) is still a leading name in bottle making etc. If you have a whisky bottle in the house, there's a high chance it was made here.
George Younger & Son were one of the big names, hence the research.
I'm also working on the Calder family, another famous name in the brewing (and distilling) trade.
John Calder, the celebrated (and often controversial) London publisher is the grandson of John.J.Calder who developed the family brewing business and who was a principal figure in the formation of what eventually became Allied Brewers, one of the so called "Big Six" brewing chains in the 1950s onwards.
His brother James Calder was a major figure in the whisky world.
PS - I have no connection to any of these families, although my grandmother was secretary to J.J.Calder way back.
I'm in touch with various members of the Younger clan - all have been very helpful and supportive., including Sir James, current (5th) Viscount Leckie.
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Various images of George, 1st Viscount Younger of Leckie
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/macalloa/GeorgeYounger-cartoon.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/macalloa/GeorgeYounger-sketch.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/macalloa/GeorgeYounger-standing1922.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/macalloa/GeorgeYounger-sitting1922.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/macalloa/GeorgeYounger1878.jpg)
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Robert Younger, (1861-1946) Baron Blanesburgh, youngest brother of George.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/macalloa/RobertYounger1861-1946BaronBlanesbu.jpg)
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The Rt.Hon. William McEwan, uncle to George and Robert Younger
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/macalloa/SirWilliamMcEwan.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/macalloa/SirWilliamMcEwancartoon1902.jpg)
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This is really quite overwhelming :) A week ago all I knew of my family history was my grandfather's and grandmothers names and where they lived, and I now have all this information, including Clooties family tree with all the names way back to 1598 even!! Even with all this info it has taken a while for my brain to work it all out, but I am now getting it into perspective and working out the various relationships. Macalloa you have excelled yourself with the photographs. I can see how addictive this family history research can be :)
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Deemas,
You'll be interested to learn that there has been a tradition of military service as well as political careers in the extended Younger / McEwan family.
The late George Younger, 4th Viscount Leckie was Defence Minister and Secretary of State for Scotland under Maggie Thatcher, a highly prominent Cabinet Minister. He represented Ayr.
Sir Kenneth Gilmour Younger (photo below) was a Junior Minister in the LABOUR (!!!) government, he was elected after World War II as MP for Grimsby.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/macalloa/SirKennethGilmourYounger1908-1976.jpg)
His branch of the family are descended from James Younger, brother of George, First Viscount.
If memory serves Sir Kenneth's son is Chairman of the Electoral Reform Commission.
Try 'Google' for details.
Several Youngers have had distinguished Army careers.
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Deemas,
The gentleman in Lasswade (just back from holiday) has 'phoned me - he is interested and happy to get involved.
Can you please e-mail me so I can give you details
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I've not been around here for a while - any interesting developments ?
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i was in touch with Deemas by E Mail and she sent me loads of personal history about relatives I didnt know i had. Memories from her mother. I believe that Deemas was quite close to the fires in Australia, she sent me some amazing photos of them and said she was off to trace the other side of the tree. I havent heard from her since.
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I noticed in your signature block you are interested in Wetheralds in Durham. I am looking for more information on Matthew Wetherald b 1818 Kirkby Ravensworth and his father John b ~1795.
Any connection?
All the best
Bruce Beavis
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Hi, I was on the other thread and posted this:-
Hi, I have lost my 2nd Great Grand Uncle Peter Laing, he is a Weaver and married Ann Younger 2/11/1847 in Alloa, they are on the 1851 census with their one year old daughter mary Ann at Meiklejohns Vennel, Alloa.
I am happy to say I received a reply and found Peter & Ann emigrated to Australia.
Now Peter's sister Isabella Laing married David Gilchrist and their granddaughter Jane Bell Irvine married Robert Younger (c1879) in 1903. Jane born 1880 Alloa to Jane Gilchrist and David Irvine. Anyone recognise this Younger and know of their descendants.? Cheers Evelyn
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Several Robert's in the Younger brewing family generations - but none born 1879.
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Hi Everyone,
I am connected to the Younger Family through Jane Edgar Younger & James Knox Russell and am looking for the full names, birth, marriage & death dates & spouse details for their children, James, Margaret, Jane and Violet Russell. Any help will be gratefully received.
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Can anyone please tell me where William Younger, married to Grizel Syme/Sim fits into the Younger family tree?
I have so many William Younger's in my tree without birth dates, that I just can't figure it out.
Any information on his parents, siblings, children would be most appreciated.
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My great-grandmother was Sheila May Younger, born on April 5th 1912, to Leila And William Douglas Younger. I know Leila and William Douglas were emigrants, but I am not aware of whether it was them or W. D.'s parents that emigrated. I have also heard that my great-grandmother was related to the Younger brewing family, and I wanted to find out the validity of these claims. I don't know if it helps, but both her and her parents lived in South Africa for a long time.
Thank you very much,
Pedro de Sacadura Botte
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Hello smallholderitm,
I've only just stumbled across this site, while looking for the place an ancestor lived - which was Fearns Gart Greenie. He was James Younger, a joiner, b 1826, who moved to Birkenhead and he was my father's Gt grandfather. I think we might be distant cousins!
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Hello everyone,
I was delighted to find this thread as it filled in a few spaces on how my family is linked to the Alloa Youngers. The daughter mentioned below, Anne Younger, is my 2x great grandmother. She married Dougal Craig, an engineer in Monkwearmouth - I wonder how they met? They had two sons, John and James, before being widowed (he died in rural Wiltshire). Anne then remarried ? Robinson but I don't know whether she had any further children. Captain John Craig, Anne's son, had four children (three daughters and one son), only one of whom had a child (my father, John Forbes). John Craig's brother, James, was a sugar merchant and married a young woman called Emily Maud Gamble late in life. I don't know whether he had any children.
It would be interesting to know more about the man from Lasswade - he and I must be related but I'm not sure how. If anyone can help then I'd love to hear from them.
OK.
The Younger families used the same male Christain names across the generations.
I have some information gleamed from a copy of a letter that the Scottish Brewing Archives sent me.
Quote - "My great grandfather Robert Younger, b 1802, the father of my granny Anne Younger, was the brother of George Younger, brewer, b 1790, and uncle of James and of Robert Younger who founded St.Anns Brewery in Edinburgh."
I suspect that would be the Robert Younger you are interested in ?
The letter was written in 1996 by a gentlemen in West Lothian in response to research being carried out by Alma Topen for the SBA. I have the address etc., however I would not wish to pass it on without his permission.
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Hi everyone. I'm looking for bio information, including a photo, on Captain J.P. Younger, who I believe became Sir James Younger. He was chairman of George Younger and Sons brewery I think. My interest comes from tracing ownership/custodianship of a Rolls-Royce Silver Wraith that a Captain J.P. Younger of Alloa, Scotland commissioned/owned in 1948. Thank you.
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Re Captain J P Younger - his bio can be seen at http://www.thepeerage.com/p61648.htm#i616474 although there's no photograph.
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Hi everyone. I'm looking for bio information, including a photo, on Captain J.P. Younger, who I believe became Sir James Younger. He was chairman of George Younger and Sons brewery I think. My interest comes from tracing ownership/custodianship of a Rolls-Royce Silver Wraith that a Captain J.P. Younger of Alloa, Scotland commissioned/owned in 1948. Thank you.
His son lives in St.Andrews, Fife.
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I think this is the information you're looking for?
Captain Sir James Paton Younger (1891-1976)
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Age 40
Captain Sir James Paton Younger (1891-1976)
Son of Sir James Younger (1856-1946) and Annie Paton. He was the nephew of George Younger 1st, Viscount Younger of Leckie. He lived at Mount Melville, St Andrews and Anrsbrae near Alloa. He was educated at Eton and Balliol College Oxford. He was Captain 3rd Battalion Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders in World War I. Chairman: Patons Scottish Knitwear Holdings, George Younger & sons, Alloa, United Caledonian Breweries and Western Regional Hospital Board Scotland. Director Charrington United Breweries. Lord Lt. of Clackmannanshire 1955-56. J.P. for Clackmannanshire 1933. C.B.E. 1945.
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His son lives near St.Andrews.