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Patrick Robertson b1869 'married 'Mary McCall b1869
their daughter
*~Bridget Robertson b b 1893 Laurieston, Falkirk, Stirlingshire 1891 'M'23 FEBRUARY 1911 James Dunlop [my husbands grandparents]
in 1901 census
address ETNA BUILDINGS, FALKIRK,STIRLINGSHIRE
Catherine McCall 65 mother House-keeper
Hugh McCall 34 brother Iron Moulder
James McCall 36 head Iron Dresser
Thomas McCall 20 brother Iron Moulder
Annie Robertson 13 Boarder Scholar
~*Bridget Robertson 8 Boarder Scholar
Catherine Robertson12Boarder Scholar
Esther Robertson 7Boarder Scholar
Mary Robertson 32Boarder Farm Servant
Mary Robertson 10Boarder Scholar
Patrick Robertson 4 Boarder
Any further info on any of the above family would be great.
but would like to know
where was Patrick Robertson and Mary Mccall from?
where/when they married?
what happened to the rest of the family?
what was Etna buildings and is it still there today?
many thanks in anticipation
Sheena O'Fee
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Hi Sheena
A search of marriages on Scotlands People indicates Patrick and Mary are likely to have married in Falkirk in 1889. This looks like them in 1891:
Patrick Robertson 26, moulder, b. Laurieston, Stirlingshire
Mary McCall 24, wife, b. Laurieston, Stirlingshire
Catherine Robertson 2, b Laurieston, Stirlingshire
Address:South St, Falkirk Landward
Monica
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Hi Sheena
A search of marriages on Scotlands People indicates Patrick and Mary are likely to have married in Falkirk in 1889. This looks like them in 1891:
Patrick Robertson 26, moulder, b. Laurieston, Stirlingshire
Mary McCall 24, wife, b. Laurieston, Stirlingshire
Catherine Robertson 2, b Laurieston, Stirlingshire
Address:South St, Falkirk Landward
Monica
Thanks Monica, I tried Scotlands people but couldn't find them...good job well done....husbands family were debating wither he came from Ireland..
cheers
Sheena
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Looking at that 1901 census entry, likely this was Mary McCall's family - although she is down as boarder with the children. There is a birth showing in March 1867 Falkirk for a Mary to parents William and Catherine (Hetherington). The other children for this couple match a number of the McCalls showing on that 1901 entry.
A possible birth entry for Patrick Robertson is on 16 MAR 1865 in Falkirk, parents William and Mary (Curly).
Monica
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Likely entry for Patrick with family in 1881:
William Robertson 42, general lab., b. Glasgow Ireland (as transcribed ::)...maybe this is where the ref to Ireland comes in)
Mary Robertson 43, b. Laurieston, Ireland ..... ::) You would have to look at the original index for 1881 to confirm accuracy of transcription
John Robertson 18
Patrick Robertson 16, Apprentice Moulder, b. Laurieston
Thomas Robertson 14
William Robertson 10
James Robertson 7
Andrew Robertson 6
Frances Robertson 4
Joseph Robertson 4
Ann Robertson 2
Address: South Back Row, Falkirk Landward
Monica
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Likely entry for Patrick with family in 1881:
William Robertson 42, general lab., b. Glasgow Ireland (as transcribed ::)...maybe this is where the ref to Ireland comes in)
Mary Robertson 43, b. Laurieston, Ireland ..... ::) You would have to look at the original index for 1881 to confirm accuracy of transcription
John Robertson 18
Patrick Robertson 16, Apprentice Moulder, b. Laurieston
Thomas Robertson 14
William Robertson 10
James Robertson 7
Andrew Robertson 6
Frances Robertson 4
Joseph Robertson 4
Ann Robertson 2
Address: South Back Row, Falkirk Landward
Monica
excellent stuff Monica, terrific I'll try as you suggest -looking up the origional1881census
thanks again
Sheena ;D
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There is a 1916 reference to Etna Buildings in a photo on SCRAN www.scran.ac.uk/database/record.php?usi=000-000-492-950-C&PHPSESSID=2hjdo4bv13fkp30s2n040doug7
Group of about 160 workers pose outside what is probably the Etna buildings of the Mungal foundry, Bainsford, Falkirk
Given that the McCall men would also appear to have been iron moulders in 1901, the address would make sense. It probably housed workers and their families from the foundry.
Monica :)
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Sheena
:D You're in luck. William and Mary Robertson do show an Irish birth place in 1861/71 censuses. Quite often you will never find reference in the censuses as to where people from Ireland came from. However, in 1861 William shows Co Leitrim and Mary shows Co. Sligo for birth places.
They were both here in 1860 when they married in Falkirk on 26 May. You will be able to confirm their parents' names from their marriage cert.
Monica
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Sheena
:D You're in luck. William and Mary Robertson do show an Irish birth place in 1861/71 censuses. Quite often you will never find reference in the censuses as to where people from Ireland came from. However, in 1861 William shows Co Leitrim and Mary shows Co. Sligo for birth places.
They were both here in 1860 when they married in Falkirk on 26 May. You will be able to confirm their parents' names from their marriage cert.
Monica
what can I say Monica...your a star, great work thanks great site you suggested too just about to subscribe
regards
sheena
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I think at least Mary Curly may have come over with her family before 1860. There is this 1851 census entry in Falkirk - everyone showing as born in Ireland:
Thomas Curley 40, labourer
Ann Curley 40
Mary Curley 13
Peter Curley 2
Patrick Flyn 25, lodger
Address: James Street, Laurieston Falkirk
Monica
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I think at least Mary Curly may have come over with her family before 1860. There is this 1851 census entry in Falkirk - everyone showing as born in Ireland:
Thomas Curley 40, labourer
Ann Curley 40
Mary Curley 13
Peter Curley 2
Patrick Flyn 25, lodger
Address: James Street, Laurieston Falkirk
Monica
my goodness Monica I'm so impressed, great work, I can't get a sunscription for some reason to the site you gave me the link to, but I'll try again in the morning it looks a very interesting site, thanks again I do appreciate all your hard work and amaized at how quick you find it ;D
sheena ;D
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Esther, Mary and Annie emigrated to Canada. I am Esther's grandaughter. Esther and Mary emigrated on the Hesperian from Glasgow arriving in Montreal Nov. 6, 1911. She travelled to Macleod, Alberta to join Annie (Nan) who emigrated in 1908 to marry James shaw. Mary traveled with Esther heading for marriage in Regina. Esther married Leo Johnston and had 5 children.
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Hi my late brother in law David Paterson was the grandson of Catherine Robertson sister of Esther. David lived here in Falkirk all his life, although one of his sisters emigrated to Canada.
Regards,
Tom
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I have received more accurate info recently that indicates only Anne, Esther and Patrick Robertson emigrated to Canada. The Mary Robertson on a 1911 manifest from ship, Hesperian, must be from a different family.