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Title: ROBERTSON Laurieston, Falkirk
Post by: SOFEE on Tuesday 02 September 08 22:00 BST (UK)
Patrick Robertson b1869 'married 'Mary McCall b1869

their daughter
*~Bridget Robertson b b 1893 Laurieston, Falkirk, Stirlingshire 1891 'M'23 FEBRUARY 1911 James Dunlop  [my husbands grandparents]

in 1901 census
address ETNA BUILDINGS, FALKIRK,STIRLINGSHIRE

Catherine McCall  65 mother House-keeper
Hugh McCall      34 brother Iron Moulder
James McCall      36 head   Iron Dresser
Thomas McCall      20 brother Iron Moulder
Annie Robertson   13 Boarder  Scholar
~*Bridget Robertson  8 Boarder  Scholar
Catherine Robertson12Boarder  Scholar
Esther Robertson    7Boarder  Scholar
Mary Robertson       32Boarder  Farm Servant
Mary Robertson       10Boarder  Scholar
Patrick Robertson   4   Boarder

Any further info on any of the above family would be great.

but would like to know

where was  Patrick Robertson and Mary Mccall from?
where/when they married?

what happened to the rest of the family?
what was Etna buildings and is it still there today?

many thanks in anticipation

Sheena O'Fee
Title: Re: ROBERTSON Laurieston, Falkirk
Post by: MonicaL on Tuesday 02 September 08 22:27 BST (UK)
Hi Sheena

A search of marriages on Scotlands People indicates Patrick and Mary are likely to have married in Falkirk in 1889. This looks like them in 1891:

Patrick Robertson 26, moulder, b. Laurieston, Stirlingshire
Mary McCall 24, wife, b. Laurieston, Stirlingshire
Catherine Robertson 2, b Laurieston, Stirlingshire

Address:South St, Falkirk Landward

Monica
Title: Re: ROBERTSON Laurieston, Falkirk
Post by: SOFEE on Tuesday 02 September 08 22:32 BST (UK)
Hi Sheena

A search of marriages on Scotlands People indicates Patrick and Mary are likely to have married in Falkirk in 1889. This looks like them in 1891:

Patrick Robertson 26, moulder, b. Laurieston, Stirlingshire
Mary McCall 24, wife, b. Laurieston, Stirlingshire
Catherine Robertson 2, b Laurieston, Stirlingshire

Address:South St, Falkirk Landward

Monica


Thanks Monica, I tried Scotlands people but couldn't find them...good job well done....husbands family were debating wither he came from Ireland..

cheers
Sheena
Title: Re: ROBERTSON Laurieston, Falkirk
Post by: MonicaL on Tuesday 02 September 08 22:38 BST (UK)
Looking at that 1901 census entry, likely this was Mary McCall's family - although she is down as boarder with the children.  There is a birth showing in March 1867 Falkirk for a Mary to parents William and Catherine (Hetherington). The other children for this couple match a number of the McCalls showing on that 1901 entry.

A possible birth entry for Patrick Robertson is on 16 MAR 1865 in Falkirk, parents William and Mary (Curly).

Monica
Title: Re: ROBERTSON Laurieston, Falkirk
Post by: MonicaL on Tuesday 02 September 08 22:44 BST (UK)
Likely entry for Patrick with family in 1881:

William Robertson 42, general lab., b. Glasgow Ireland (as transcribed  ::)...maybe this is where the ref to Ireland comes in)
Mary Robertson 43, b. Laurieston, Ireland ..... ::)  You would have to look at the original index for 1881 to confirm accuracy of transcription
John Robertson 18
Patrick Robertson 16, Apprentice Moulder, b. Laurieston
Thomas Robertson 14
William Robertson    10
James Robertson 7
Andrew Robertson 6
Frances Robertson 4
Joseph Robertson 4
Ann Robertson 2

Address: South Back Row, Falkirk Landward

Monica

Title: Re: ROBERTSON Laurieston, Falkirk
Post by: SOFEE on Tuesday 02 September 08 22:51 BST (UK)
Likely entry for Patrick with family in 1881:

William Robertson 42, general lab., b. Glasgow Ireland (as transcribed  ::)...maybe this is where the ref to Ireland comes in)
Mary Robertson 43, b. Laurieston, Ireland ..... ::)  You would have to look at the original index for 1881 to confirm accuracy of transcription
John Robertson 18
Patrick Robertson 16, Apprentice Moulder, b. Laurieston
Thomas Robertson 14
William Robertson    10
James Robertson 7
Andrew Robertson 6
Frances Robertson 4
Joseph Robertson 4
Ann Robertson 2

Address: South Back Row, Falkirk Landward

Monica


excellent stuff Monica, terrific I'll try as you suggest -looking up the origional1881census

thanks again
Sheena ;D
Title: Re: ROBERTSON Laurieston, Falkirk
Post by: MonicaL on Tuesday 02 September 08 22:55 BST (UK)
There is a 1916 reference to Etna Buildings in a photo on SCRAN  www.scran.ac.uk/database/record.php?usi=000-000-492-950-C&PHPSESSID=2hjdo4bv13fkp30s2n040doug7

Group of about 160 workers pose outside what is probably the Etna buildings of the Mungal foundry, Bainsford, Falkirk

Given that the McCall men would also appear to have been iron moulders in 1901, the address would make sense. It probably housed workers and their families from the foundry.

Monica  :)
Title: Re: ROBERTSON Laurieston, Falkirk
Post by: MonicaL on Tuesday 02 September 08 23:03 BST (UK)
Sheena

 :D You're in luck. William and Mary Robertson do show an Irish birth place in 1861/71 censuses. Quite often you will never find reference in the censuses as to where people from Ireland came from. However, in 1861 William shows Co Leitrim and Mary shows Co. Sligo for birth places.

They were both here in 1860 when they married in Falkirk on 26 May. You will be able to confirm their parents' names from their marriage cert.

Monica
Title: Re: ROBERTSON Laurieston, Falkirk
Post by: SOFEE on Tuesday 02 September 08 23:08 BST (UK)
Sheena

 :D You're in luck. William and Mary Robertson do show an Irish birth place in 1861/71 censuses. Quite often you will never find reference in the censuses as to where people from Ireland came from. However, in 1861 William shows Co Leitrim and Mary shows Co. Sligo for birth places.

They were both here in 1860 when they married in Falkirk on 26 May. You will be able to confirm their parents' names from their marriage cert.

Monica

what can I say Monica...your a star, great work thanks great site you suggested too just about to subscribe
regards
sheena
Title: Re: ROBERTSON Laurieston, Falkirk
Post by: MonicaL on Tuesday 02 September 08 23:10 BST (UK)
I think at least Mary Curly may have come over with her family before 1860. There is this 1851 census entry in Falkirk - everyone showing as born in Ireland:

Thomas Curley 40, labourer
Ann Curley 40
Mary Curley 13
Peter Curley 2
Patrick Flyn 25, lodger

Address: James Street, Laurieston Falkirk

Monica
Title: Re: ROBERTSON Laurieston, Falkirk
Post by: SOFEE on Tuesday 02 September 08 23:29 BST (UK)
I think at least Mary Curly may have come over with her family before 1860. There is this 1851 census entry in Falkirk - everyone showing as born in Ireland:

Thomas Curley 40, labourer
Ann Curley 40
Mary Curley 13
Peter Curley 2
Patrick Flyn 25, lodger

Address: James Street, Laurieston Falkirk

Monica
my goodness Monica I'm so impressed, great work, I can't get a sunscription for some reason to the site you gave me the link to, but I'll try again in the morning it looks a very interesting site, thanks again I do appreciate all your hard work and amaized at how quick you find it ;D

sheena ;D
Title: Re: ROBERTSON Laurieston, Falkirk
Post by: criverite on Saturday 29 May 10 17:59 BST (UK)
Esther, Mary and Annie emigrated to Canada. I am Esther's grandaughter. Esther and Mary emigrated on the Hesperian from Glasgow arriving in Montreal Nov. 6, 1911.  She travelled to Macleod, Alberta to join Annie (Nan) who emigrated in 1908 to marry James shaw.  Mary traveled with Esther heading for marriage in Regina. Esther married Leo Johnston and had 5 children.
Title: Re: ROBERTSON Laurieston, Falkirk
Post by: tombuc on Saturday 10 December 11 12:26 GMT (UK)
Hi my late brother in law David Paterson was the grandson of Catherine Robertson sister of Esther. David lived here in Falkirk all his life, although one of his sisters emigrated to Canada.
Regards,
Tom
Title: Re: ROBERTSON Laurieston, Falkirk
Post by: criverite on Sunday 10 November 19 19:22 GMT (UK)
I have received more accurate info recently that indicates only Anne, Esther and Patrick Robertson emigrated to Canada. The Mary Robertson on a 1911 manifest from ship, Hesperian, must be from  a different family.