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Title: Devonport North - street query
Post by: cowboysmate on Wednesday 03 September 08 17:11 BST (UK)
Can anyone tell me where Gosehen Street is, in Devonport?  It is the place of death of my gt grandmother circa 1926 - I'm interested in what was at No. 47, as she was from Bodmin - was it a private house, or a hotel maybe?

Perhaps it was destroyed during WW2?

Thanks for any replies.......
Title: Re: Devonport North - street query
Post by: spongebob on Wednesday 03 September 08 17:51 BST (UK)
Can't find any current reference to that street, but searching through the enumeration district descriptions for the 1901 census, there is one sheet that refers to what looks like a Goshen Street. It also mentions Spencer Avenue, Hamilton Street and Avondale Terrace. Cannot find any of these on the current map so wonder whether they were bombed in the war. From the rough description of the boundaries it looks like they may have been right on the side of the docks, making them very vulnerable to bombing.

Still looking, but is Gosehen Street accurate - or is the source handwriting bad and could it be something else?

Matt
Title: Re: Devonport North - street query
Post by: spongebob on Wednesday 03 September 08 18:05 BST (UK)
Yeah looks like it's Goshen Street - as there is a mention of it in Stoke which is a district of Devonport according to the map.

THIS (http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:BufND-4pne8J:www.plymouth.gov.uk/a-streets-3.pdf+%22goshen+street%22+devonport&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1) document from Plymouth Council mentions Goshen Street - maybe that will help?
Title: Re: Devonport North - street query
Post by: terrymo on Thursday 04 September 08 14:56 BST (UK)
Hi

If you contact the Local Studies library in Plymouth they will be only too pleased to help you.  Their e-mail address is

 localstudies[at]plymouth.gov.uk

They have a large collection of old maps and will be able to tell you exactly where Goschen Street was.  At a guess I would have thought it was near the Dockyard as that is where Goschen Yard is.
Mo
Title: Re: Devonport North - street query
Post by: terrymo on Thursday 04 September 08 14:59 BST (UK)
Hi again
Further to my last reply.  If you log on to

http://www.plymouthdata.info/Second%20World%20War-1941-Blitz2.htm
you will see that Goschen Street was bombed during WW2.  This website is fantastic for any information on Plymouth and is updated regularly.

hope this helps
Mo
Title: Re: Devonport North - street query
Post by: Philezra on Monday 08 September 08 18:38 BST (UK)
Hi

I live in Plymouth - Goschen Street still exists, it appears..........what do you need to know?

Phil 
Title: Re: Devonport North - street query
Post by: cowboysmate on Wednesday 24 September 08 12:30 BST (UK)
Hi,

have just returned from 2 weeks holiday to all your replies - thank you so much for these!
Have just checked gt grndma's death cert again, and yes, I think I have slightly mis-read it, the street name is GOSCHEN, not Gosehen.

If the street still exists in its pre-war form, I just wanted to know what was at No.47, where she died.  Is it a private house?  Wondered what she was doing there when she died, perhaps visiting a friend or relative??  Her daughter was "present at the death", but her home address is Birmingham.  Wonder who owned the house in May 1926, then?

Any advice along this line much appreciated,
Anne
Title: Re: Devonport North - street query
Post by: Philezra on Wednesday 24 September 08 13:54 BST (UK)
I will check the Directories in the library after work for you for 1925, 1926 and 1927.....

When my car is on the road again, I will drive to Goshen Street for you - WWII may have accounted for a change in "scenery" or the houses, in theory, may have been "updated"!

Phil   
Title: Re: Devonport North - street query
Post by: Philezra on Wednesday 24 September 08 19:03 BST (UK)
Hi - OK , I checked the only directories near 1926.

The library had editions for 1923 and 1928 BOTH of which listed 2 people as living at 47 Goshen Street:

C Thomas and Mrs Bray

Hope this is of some help

Phil
Title: Re: Devonport North - street query
Post by: cowboysmate on Sunday 28 September 08 14:02 BST (UK)


The names don't mean anything to me immediately, perhaps they were friends.....but will think on it!

Many thanks again for your kind assistance.
Title: Re: Devonport North - street query
Post by: akinom on Thursday 29 March 18 10:55 BST (UK)
Not sure if still relevant to you but I was after Hamilton Street which along with Goschen Street and Spencer Avenue were all bombed during the war. I found an old prewar map that shows where the streets were but will probably be difficult to gather what/where the individual houses were. Link to map: http://maps.nls.uk/view/101438819 (http://maps.nls.uk/view/101438819)
Title: Re: Devonport North - street query
Post by: StintonLomas on Thursday 29 March 18 18:19 BST (UK)
Hi
Does the family name Bray mean anything for you.
That is the family living at 47 in 1939.
Title: Re: Devonport North - street query
Post by: akinom on Thursday 29 March 18 18:35 BST (UK)
It doesn't, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Devonport North - street query
Post by: cowboysmate on Monday 02 April 18 14:04 BST (UK)
Hi, I got an email alert on this subject as I was originally enquiring after this street back in 2008.

Quite a while later, I found that the house I was interested in had been rented out, and that one of the people renting was my great grandmother's grandson (in the navy at the time), so that explained why she had been in the house at the time of her death.  I apologise if I should have let this board know my discovery at the time.....

Her grandson had been sent (via the local court!) from Bodmin to the Technical/Engineering school in Devonport, as he would not attend school, probably explains why he joined the navy afterwards. 

Don't know if any records survive of his time there, it would be interesting to see if he is mentioned.
I may try and look this up when I have the time.

In the meantime, thanks again to all the people who make Rootschat such a success!
best regards.