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Title: Homing in on Homer...
Post by: Al in Vane on Thursday 04 September 08 09:57 BST (UK)
Looking for Walter Homer and family in the Quarry Bank area in the 1891 census. Walter was born in 1884 in Quarry Bank so would be aged six or seven in 1891. I have no details of parents.

Any details would be most welcome.
Al
Title: Re: Homing in on Homer...
Post by: down-under on Thursday 04 September 08 11:39 BST (UK)
1891 RG12/2310 folio 121 page 17 Kingswindford  Quarry Bank Staffordshire

Maugham ? ? Street

Transcribed Harrold ? could it be Randel? Homer age 26 Coal Miner all born Quarry Bank Staffordshire
Eliza wife age 25?

Walter Homer son age 6
Clara or Claire  dau age 3
Shadrack Homer lodger  widower age 61 Coal Miner


Pam
Title: Re: Homing in on Homer...
Post by: suzard on Thursday 04 September 08 11:49 BST (UK)
1901
Walter's father's name looks like Handel or Randel (Walter age 16 )

but

1901 there is also a Walter Homer b Quarry bank age 17 parents Benjamin and Ann

Difficult to know which one is yours??????

Suz
Title: Re: Homing in on Homer...
Post by: down-under on Thursday 04 September 08 11:51 BST (UK)

Did not see the other Walter 1901

1901 RG13/2762 folio 118 page 25 Quarry Bank Christchurch Staffordshire


2 Maugham Street

Handel/ Randel Homer age 36 Coal Miner
Eliza wife  age 35
Walter Homer age 16 son Quarry Bank coal Hewer
Elizabeth dau age 10
Gertrude dau age 7
Bertie son age 3
Doris dau age 11 months

Pam
Title: Re: Homing in on Homer...
Post by: down-under on Thursday 04 September 08 12:00 BST (UK)
Suz


Can you see the other Walter and family 1891.

Pam
Title: Re: Homing in on Homer...
Post by: down-under on Thursday 04 September 08 12:04 BST (UK)
Hello

Found them will post soon.

Pam
Title: Re: Homing in on Homer...
Post by: suzard on Thursday 04 September 08 12:08 BST (UK)
I'll post the 1901then have a look

1901
32 Birch Coppice
Quarry bank
Stafs
Benjamin Homer Head 48 Chain maker
Ann wife 45
Walter son 17 Striker in iron works
Alfred son 15
Beatrice daughter 12
Annie maria daughter9
Gerge Enoch son 6
George hadlington lodger 33 Collier Bulider
all b Quarry bank
RG13 2762 22 35

Problem is there are Walter Homer birth reg s all in same district 1884/5/6/7-that'snot counting the ones with middle names

Suz

Title: Re: Homing in on Homer...
Post by: suzard on Thursday 04 September 08 12:11 BST (UK)
Al, Do you have any other info on Walter?

Where did you get his birth details from??

Suz
Title: Re: Homing in on Homer...
Post by: down-under on Thursday 04 September 08 12:13 BST (UK)
Transcribed Homan

1891 RG12/2310 folio 40 page 43 Kingswinford Quarry Bank Staffordshire

Birch Coppers?

Benjamin Homer age 39 Chain maker all born Quarry Bank except Alfred
Ann wife age 36
William son age 16 Chain Maker
Maud dau age 14
Lizzie dau age 12
Benjamin son age 9
Walter son age 7
Alfred son age 5  born Delph StaffBeatrice dau age 2


Pam
Title: Re: Homing in on Homer...
Post by: Al in Vane on Thursday 04 September 08 12:19 BST (UK)
Thank you for all those replies, bit of a puzzler with all those Walters but I know he worked as a coalminer and left the area to do that at Bedworth, Warwickshire after 1910 so that may be the clue to deciding which is which.
Title: Re: Homing in on Homer...
Post by: Al in Vane on Thursday 04 September 08 12:28 BST (UK)
Suzard, forgot to answer your query, Walter's Grandson provided the details and he got them off his Aunt who is Walter's brother's daughter!!

I will get him to ask her for her father's name which will probably provide the answer.

Thank you all again for your help, it is very much appreciated.
Title: Re: Homing in on Homer...
Post by: Al in Vane on Thursday 04 September 08 12:34 BST (UK)
P.S. The name head of one of the families is HANDEL Homer, he is there in the 1881 at Quarry Bank.
Title: Re: Homing in on Homer...
Post by: down-under on Thursday 04 September 08 12:38 BST (UK)
That would be Handel Coal Miner with wife Eliza

Shadrack the father is with them 1891

Pam
Title: Re: Homing in on Homer...
Post by: Al in Vane on Thursday 04 September 08 12:46 BST (UK)
Just confirmed that Handel's family is the right one so thank you all.

Shadrack's family from previous censuses anyone?

(I have the 1881)
Title: Re: Homing in on Homer...
Post by: down-under on Thursday 04 September 08 12:55 BST (UK)
1871 RG10/3030 folio 90 page 26 Kingswinford Quarry Bank Staffordshire

Brickiln Field
Shadrack transcribed Theadrick Homer age 40 widower Coal Miner all born Kingswinford
William son age 18 Under Pudler
Shadrack son age 16 Lab
Betsey dau age 12
John son age 10
Nancy dau age 8
Handel son age 6
Sophia dau age 4


Pam
Title: Re: Homing in on Homer...
Post by: down-under on Thursday 04 September 08 13:09 BST (UK)
1861 RG9/2074 folio 44 page 21 Kingswinford Quarry Bank Staffordshire


Quarry Bank New Road

Shadrick Homer 28 coal Miner
Transcribed Cetsy  Betsey wife age 27
Wm son age 8
Shadrick son age 6
Betsy dau age 3
John son age 1
Emma Price boarder age 5
Mary Price wiidower age 50 Warwickshire

Pam
Title: Re: Homing in on Homer...
Post by: Al in Vane on Thursday 04 September 08 13:13 BST (UK)
Superb Pam, plenty for me to go at there before I take the next step to Shadrach's parents William and Nancy. Many Thanks again.
Title: Re: Homing in on Homer...
Post by: down-under on Thursday 04 September 08 13:45 BST (UK)
1851 H0107/2036 folio 648 page 26 Kingswinford Quarry Bank Staffordshire


Salt wells
William Homer age 53 Nailer all born Kingswinford Staff
Nancy wife age 53 Nailer
Samuel son age 23 Roller at the Forge
Shaderick son age 20 Coal Miner
John son age 15 Nailer
Daniel son age 12 Nailer


1841 H0107/996/13 folio 23 page 13 Kingswinford North StaffordshireSeisdon

Swinford Woods

John Jones age 13 Nailer
Ann Jones age 11
Elizabeth Jones age 4
Sarah Jones age 3
//
Mary Homer age 14 Nailer
Caroline Homer age 11
Samuel Homer age 8
//
William Morris age 61 day lab not born in county
Mary Morris age 65
Elizabeth age 15
Isabella age 13

Alex Billingham Nailer
Sebra age 30
Sarah age 11
Lol age 8
James age 3
//

Thos Billingham age 20 Nailer
Ann age 20
//
William Homer age 40 Nailer all born in county
Nancy Homer age 40
Joseph age 15
William age 14
Samuel age 12
Benjamin age 10
Seth? age 7
John age 5
Daniel age 2

Regards Pam
Title: Re: Homing in on Homer...
Post by: down-under on Thursday 04 September 08 13:59 BST (UK)
1861 RG9/2074 folio 25 page 44  Kingswinford Staffordshire

Salt Well     ???

William Homer age 63 Nailer all born Kingswinford
Nancy age 63 Nailer
Samuel son age 33  Forge Lab

Pam
Title: Re: Homing in on Homer...
Post by: Al in Vane on Thursday 04 September 08 14:07 BST (UK)
Blimey Pam, I am overwhelmed! There is certainly a very large one waiting for you if you ever find yourself over here in Nuneaton! What else can I say except many thanks again for your efforts on my behalf
humbly,
Al
Title: Re: Homing in on Homer...
Post by: down-under on Thursday 04 September 08 14:08 BST (UK)
Happy to be of help.

Kindest Regards

 Pam from Western Australia
Title: Re: Homing in on Homer...
Post by: sls on Wednesday 04 March 09 08:11 GMT (UK)
Al, 

I am researching the Benjamin Homer family.  I don't have the info at hand, but Benjamin married Caroline Weldon.  I think Benjamin is the brother of my great-great grandmother, Hannah Homer, born about 1822, born in Quarry Bank or Brierley Hill.  Hannah married Elijah Cartwright of Brierley Hill. I saw that you may have had a Cartwright connection also.  Like I said I am on a different laptop and don't have my info, but I am pretty sure that William and Nancy Homer were living near Benjamin.  Hannah and Elijah moved to Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania , US about 1846.  Hannah died about 1856, but she had 5 children, Benjamin, David, Wesley Elijah (my great-grandfather) Mary Ellen and William.  I have Elijah and Hannah's marriage record--they were married in the parish church of Dudley and their residence was listed as Baptist End.  I am from the US and am a little confused about the districts, counties, and parishes.   On the marriage record it states that her father was Benjamin Homer, deceased.  Is it possible to get cemetery records or deaths  records before 1837? 

I do know that Elijah's father was also Elijah Cartwright and his mother may have been Mary Round/Rounds-----his siblings were John, William, David, Louisa (married William Stanyard), Mercy ( may have married Thomas Hatton and Thomas Plant), Maria, Elizabeth (may have married Thomas Plant first).


Regards, Sheri
Title: Re: Homing in on Homer...
Post by: sls on Wednesday 04 March 09 09:33 GMT (UK)
Rod,

Thank you for your reply.  I appreciate you sending the message to your friend.

Is it easy to get church records and cemetery records?  I am not sure where to look for sure, but I would think Brierley Hill would be the place to start.  I know that my great-grandfather was named Wesley, because Elijah was impressed with John Wesley, but I am not sure what church they would have attended.  When he came to the states he became a Methodist minister.

Again, thank you and if you need any help researching  in the states--I might be able to help.

Sheri
Title: Re: Homing in on Homer...
Post by: Al in Vane on Wednesday 04 March 09 10:06 GMT (UK)
Sheri, will send you another pm
Al