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Title: 1891 Census HESTER
Post by: JLo on Sunday 07 September 08 20:53 BST (UK)
I don't know whether I've missed something obvious, but I am trying to find the following person in 1891 Census and cannot find her anywhere!

Emily Hester born 1886 (+/-1) Wycombe

I have her in 1901, but she is not with her family  :'(
I may well have to order a birth certificate to find out her parents, but was trying to avoid it if possible  :-\
Title: Re: 1891 Census HESTER
Post by: jacques on Sunday 07 September 08 23:10 BST (UK)
Could this be her in 1891

@ Rotherfield Greys Borough of Henley Oxford

Samuel  J  Hester   Head Marr 64 Ag Lab       Born  Oxon  Henley
Frances                  Wife          58                                "       "
Henry                     Son Single 25  Boot & Shoe Maker "      "

EMILY                    Grand daughter 5             Born  London

Pam         
Title: Re: 1891 Census HESTER
Post by: jacques on Sunday 07 September 08 23:16 BST (UK)
Sorry omitted the address in 1891 in Rotherfield Grey it was 50 Albert Road

Pam
Title: Re: 1891 Census HESTER
Post by: forthefamily on Sunday 07 September 08 23:20 BST (UK)
In 1861

Samuel  J  Hester   Head Marr 23 Maltster       Born  Oxon  Henley
Frances                  Wife          28 Needle Work                               "       "
Caroline                   Dau  3  Scholar

Gravel (?) Hill Henley Oxford

mab
Title: Re: 1891 Census HESTER
Post by: jacques on Sunday 07 September 08 23:39 BST (UK)
1871  @ Friday Street Rotherfield Greys Oxon

Samuel  Hester Head Marr  43  Maltsters Lab   Born Not known   England
Frances             Wife           38                            "     henley
Henry                Son             5                                      "
Arabella             dau             9                                      "
Emily                  dau             7                                     "
Caroline             dau            13                                    "

1881 @ henley on Thames  Oxon

James (not using the Samuel ) Hester Head Marr 53  lab   Born Oxon henley
Frances                                       "        Wife          48                             "
Henry                                          "        Son           15 Shoemaker app    "

Samuel J must stand for James.
Wondered if Emily was illigitimate born to either Emily Arabella or Caroline??

Pam
Title: Re: 1891 Census HESTER
Post by: JLo on Monday 08 September 08 13:56 BST (UK)
Thanks very much, you've certainly given me an interesting possibility! 

Her birth was registered in Wycombe and she certainly lived all her adult life in Wycombe Marsh (and is buried in High Wycombe cemetery too!)so I'm not sure on this one.  Henley is not exactly far away, but why would they have her born in London?  May be to hide the illegitimacy??

By 1901 she was living with and working as a servant for a CofE priest and his family (in Wycombe) - do you think they wanted her to be taught a higher moral code?!

I think I'm going to have to order the certificate for this one to get any definite answers.
Title: Re: 1891 Census HESTER
Post by: forthefamily on Monday 08 September 08 18:10 BST (UK)
Please come back and let us know what is says  :D

mab
Title: Re: 1891 Census HESTER
Post by: jacques on Monday 08 September 08 21:36 BST (UK)
Yes please let us know the outcome of the Certificate.

Pam
Title: Re: 1891 Census HESTER
Post by: JLo on Tuesday 23 September 08 20:04 BST (UK)
Well I'm a little bit wiser, but not much!!
I received Emily Hester's birth cert.  She was born 17 Oct 1886 in Wycombe.  Her parents were Charles Hester and his wife Fanny (nee Muspratt/Mispratt) Have found her parents in 1881 & 1901 with some of her siblings, but still cannot find any of them in 1891  :-\ Of course just to make it awkward there are two Charles & Fanny Hesters of similar ages, I've found the other pair in 1891 but not mine  :(
Have tracked down Charles Hester in an earlier census with his parents, but cannot find Fanny anywhere other than what I think is their marriage in 1878 :-\
This little branch is proving to be rather frustrating  >:(
Title: Re: 1891 Census HESTER
Post by: forthefamily on Tuesday 23 September 08 23:08 BST (UK)
This is the marriage for them:

Marriages Sep 1878 

HESTER    Charles        Hambledon    2a   194   
Muspratt    Fanny         Hambledon    2a   194    


There are two other Charles and Fanny marriages :P

Marriages Dec 1868
Hester    Charles        Wycombe    3a   626    
Twitchen    Fanny         Wycombe    3a   626

Marriages Sep 1885   
Bareham    Fanny Eliza        St. Saviour    1d   216    
HESTER    Charles Henry         St. Saviour    1d   216   


mab

added: OOOppsss...sorry I see you have the wedding date  :-[
Title: Re: 1891 Census HESTER
Post by: forthefamily on Tuesday 23 September 08 23:26 BST (UK)
1851

HO107/1845 Folio 255 Page: 7

Fanny Muspratt aged 2 maybe  :-\

Is this her birth ???

Births Dec 1848   
Muspratt    Fanny    Amesbury    8   257

(Amesbury is in Wiltshire)

mab

Title: Re: 1891 Census HESTER
Post by: JLo on Wednesday 24 September 08 13:03 BST (UK)
Thanks for having a look mab  :D

I don't think that is her  :-\

In 1881 census her birthplace is down as Middlesex/London (RG11/1466 District 5 Page 12)
and in 1901 her birthplace is Tottenham Court Road, London (RG13/1348/20/7)
Then there's her marriage which is in Hambledon district which was Sussex/Surrey border.
None of that is anywhere near Wiltshire!  There do seem to be a lot of Muspratt's in Wiltshire but I haven't found the link yet.

The number of Charles & Fanny Hester's have been very confusing, but my Charles Hester was a bricklayer not a gamekeeper (nothing that posh in this family!!!)
Title: Re: 1891 Census HESTER
Post by: forthefamily on Wednesday 24 September 08 15:02 BST (UK)
That was the only birth for a Fanny  :-\

mab