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Title: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: pablo1 on Monday 15 September 08 03:41 BST (UK)
Would like additional information on this family.  Here is what I have found so far:

James McAuley, farmer, of Ardymaugh.  Died 1874, aged 65.  Married to Ellen Brice who d. 1889, aged 69.

Executors:  John McAulay and Robert Grady of Ballynashee, Balyclare, farmers

Sarah Wilson McCauley of Ard(y)magh and Ballyeaston, dau of James McCauley, farmer, married 1875 William Adair of Carleagh at Kilbride Prebyterian Church.  William was a school master and the son of John Adair, farmer.

I am not sure, yet, if James McAuley and and Richard McAuley of Ahoghill were related.  So far, Richard's line goes like this:

1.  Richard McCauley married ?
2.  Eliza m. 1855 James Morton, son of James Morton, weaver
3.  John Morton, b. 1865 of Craigs
2.  Sarah Jane McCauley m. 1875 at Ballymena 3rd Presbyterian Church to William Robinson (see my Robinson post for additional information).

Once again, any additional information on the McCauley family of Ardymaugh would be much appreciated.
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: BallyaltikilliganG on Friday 19 September 08 15:45 BST (UK)
have you seen genforum.genealogy.com/ireland/antrim/messages/1614.html I found this one by starting to search google for Ardymaugh. Jim
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: pablo1 on Saturday 20 September 08 08:52 BST (UK)
Jim,
Thanks for checking for me.  Unfortunately, I am the one who put that post on genforum. My real name is Paul.  I only used pablo for this list as someone else was using the name of paul.

Once again, your efforts were/are very much appreciated...Paul
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: BallyaltikilliganG on Saturday 20 September 08 17:17 BST (UK)
Hi Pablo, I had a further look around,  You and Paul! have worked hard on the message boards. my normal research is in Co Down where I know it is essential to have the civil parish and then the townland for good research, and worse try to find the Government administration District  covering part or all of the area wanted. The OS of NI in 1970 published a series of maps, one should be for County Antrim, sheet ! should be a map showing townlands and other administrative units and the disposition of 6 inch sheets and 1;2500 plans .You need a look up friend in Belfast.  My instinct is to examine the large 6 inch map for the area and some clues might exist as to why it is called Ardymagh. There appears to be lots of good fishing around the area, the photos of the road show its worth visiting, but I live in England, so sorry.

So just to see if I have picked up anything you haven’t heres my look for Ardymagh

current spelling on Google maps and as named by photographers eg www.geograph.org.uk/photo/533522
Its south of Glenwherry by say 800 metres
Ardymagh Road runs roughly to Glenwherry , parrell East-west from  Ballynashee Road in a loop up  to Shaneshill Road

below you will see I have post codes which I have not put into Google search for maps

As a townland it is not listed by PRONI  currently Recheck alternative spellings eg Ardimagh. No that didn’t work

Griffiths Valuation approx early 1860s for Ahoghill Parish the list from is
Mc Auley          Daniel                Ahoghill,Killane                  Ahoghill     Antrim
Mc Auley          Denis                 Ahoghill,Killane                  Ahoghill     Antrim
Mc Auley          James                 Brocklamont                       Ahoghill     Antrim
Mc Auley          William               Lisnafillon                       Ahoghill     Antrim
Mc Cawley         Allen                 Carniny                           Ahoghill     Antrim
Mc Cawley         Patrick               Carniny                           Ahoghill     Antrim
Griffiths Valuation approx early 1860s for Rashee parish, the list is
Mc Cawley        James            Ballynashee     Rashee     Antrim
Mc Cawley        John             Ballynashee     Rashee     Antrim
from the new venture http://staging.askaboutireland.ie/gv4/gv {not working today saturday}  one should be able to see the progress of the digitization of Griffith’s valuation superimposed on the OS 1860s Map 6 inch to the mile. The 1830’s  6 inch map exists in PRONI and Linehall library

 from www.eoni.org.uk/north_antrim_street_index_2007
North Antrim list from
Continstuency  O703   ARDYMAGH  RD   BALLYNASHEE, BALLYCLARE   BT39 9TJ
from www.eoni.org.uk/north_antrim_street_index_2007
East Antrim List
Continstuency 0612   ARDYMAGH RD   BALLYALBANAGH, BALLYCLARE   BT39 9TJ


from 1888 www.libraryireland.com/BassettAntrim/Ballyclare.php
M'Auley, Geo., Ballynashee
M'Auley, J. R., Ballynashee
M'Auley, Jno., Ballynashee

from the new venture http://staging.askaboutireland.ie/gv4/gv {not working today saturday}  one should be able to see the progress of the digitization of Griffith’s valuation superimposed on the OS 1860s Map 6 inch to the mile. The 1830 6inch map exists for Co Antrim in PRONI and Linehall library and elsewhere.

So what surprises me today is I cant find freeholders spelling at all in PRONI freeholders or possible signers of the Ulster Covenant also at PRONI.
Have you exhausted www.familysearch.com, and www.emerald ancestors.com , ancestry and rootsweb etc.  I think I am running out of ideas, and may not be able to help you further. 
It s a challenge as to why the Road is so clearly named , and yet it isn’t a current townland, presumable of being swallowed up over time by other made boundaries. more voluntary help is needed for you. Best regards Jim
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: pablo1 on Sunday 21 September 08 09:44 BST (UK)
Jim,
You put a lot of effort into this last post for me so many many thanks.  Yes, the macaulay genforum board has kept me quite busy over the years.  That is what happens when the so-called Clan Macaulay mixes things up with a very hard-headed Scot-Irishman like myself!!

I will check out the map web addresses that you sent and do more hunting around familysearch.  I really want to thank you for the effort that you put into this for me.  And if I can ever be of any genealogical help to you please let me know what you are looking for.  With best regards from the land of the rising sun and before that, from the land of the sub-prime mess and the sinking dollar.  With very best wishes, Paul
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: pablo1 on Wednesday 29 April 09 08:35 BST (UK)
Related or not?

Oct. 22, 1955 issue of Irish Times

At Ballenon Reformed Presbyterian Church--John Blair, son of J. Blair of Carndhu, Larne, Co.  Antrim, married Vera Macauley Dodds, the dau. of Rev. William Dodds, B.A., Ballenon.

Attending the wedding:
Rosemary Fairley, her cousin
W. Dodds, acting as usher
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: KiwiRose on Monday 26 November 18 04:20 GMT (UK)
Pablo,

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Would like additional information on this family.  Here is what I have found so far:

James McAuley, farmer, of Ardymaugh.  Died 1874, aged 65.  Married to Ellen Brice who d. 1889, aged 69.

Executors:  John McAulay and Robert Grady of Ballynashee, Balyclare, farmers

Sarah Wilson McCauley of Ard(y)magh and Ballyeaston, dau of James McCauley, farmer, married 1875 William Adair of Carleagh at Kilbride Prebyterian Church.  William was a school master and the son of John Adair, farmer.

I am not sure, yet, if James McAuley and and Richard McAuley of Ahoghill were related.  So far, Richard's line goes like this:

1.  Richard McCauley married ?
2.  Eliza m. 1855 James Morton, son of James Morton, weaver
3.  John Morton, b. 1865 of Craigs
2.  Sarah Jane McCauley m. 1875 at Ballymena 3rd Presbyterian Church to William Robinson (see my Robinson post for additional information).

Once again, any additional information on the McCauley family of Ardymaugh would be much appreciated.

McCauley’s are not my line although various brides of that name weave in and out my Antrim Gardner family.

I don’t know what further information you now have on James McAuley and his family since Sept 2008 but I recently came across a marriage in 1877 in the Parish of Kirkinriola of a Jane McAuley who married Andrew Gardner, a Skerrywherry farmer. Jane was residing in Ardimagh (image spelling) with a father listed as James McAuley, farmer.

Around 1883 Jane and Andrew Gardner emigrated and were living with their children (immediately before their names is listed a 19yr old Edward McAuley) in Amo, Cottonwood County, Minnesota.  (Minnesota State Census 1885). 

Andrew died in 1909. The widow, Jane, was still there in the 1910 Census but missing in 1920. Findagrave has Jane’s death as 3 Feb 1921 and buried in Amo Township Cemetery as is her husband, Andrew. I have not found her death in the Minnesota records. She may have died in Canada.

The 1900 US Census for Amo & Rose Hill township, Cottonwood, Minnesota has Edward McCauly (as spelt) with his wife, Anna, and two children. Born in Jan 1862 in Ireland, Edward emigrated in 1884.  Edward is buried in Amo Township Cemetery. Someone has kindly added details of the McCauley family on the Amo Cemetery Findagrave website. He is very likely to be a younger brother of Jane Gardner and son of your 2008 query, James McCauley, Ardymagh.

It was through researching Edward McCauley in Amo trying to find his sister, Jane Gardner, after 1910 that I came upon Edward’s biographies in Genealogy Trails. I didn’t find Jane but the bio mentioned that Edward resided upon arrival in the USA in Piatt County, Illinois. The Gardner’s also initially joined Gardner family members somewhere in Illinois. The lights went on; this was a fantastic clue that resulted in a Happy Dance!! Andrew’s missing father and brother have finally been found.

Tracing female family members who disappear from records are especially difficult to track so I hope that what I have found may help you or another Antrim McCauley / McAuley researcher.

Regards,
KiwiRose.
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: pablo1 on Monday 26 November 18 22:45 GMT (UK)
Hi, KiwiRose,
Many thanks for your additional information on the McCauley-Gardner connection.  Many of this family moved to Livingston County, New York.  Other families that resided there beside the Macauleys were members of the following families, Service (Servis), Dodds, Buchanan, McCurdy, McTarnaghan, Gardner and Robinson.  This area in the States is a real gold mine for our area of interest.  Two towns of interest in Livingston Co. are Groveland and Geneseo, amongst others.  In the case of the Macauleys (McCauleys) they had originally settled in New Jersey but later moved to the New York area.

Some of my earlier research I can throw out as I have not been able to establish the Morton connection.  One of problems was that in a newspaper article my g g grandfather's name was said to be Robert, whereas on a copy of the marriage of his dau Sarah Jane to William Robinson, his name is listed as Richard.

I will get back later with more on this family from Cottonwood, MN. 
With very best wishes,
Paul Robinson
Osaka, Japan
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: pablo1 on Tuesday 27 November 18 11:59 GMT (UK)
History of Cottonwood and Watonwan Counties of Minnesota with additional information.

1.  James McCauley m. 1846 Ellen Killen @ Glenwhirry Presbyterian Church, Ballymena.

2.  James


2.  John


2.  Jane


2.  Sarah Wilson McCauley m. 1875 at Kilbride Presbyterian Church to William Adair, d. 1912, school master.  William was the son of John Adair.  They had with other issue,


3.  Crawford Bryce Adair (1889-1977) m. Margaret (Meta) McCurdy (1892-1989); this family emigrated to Cottonwood, Minnesota.  Margaret was the dau of John McCurdy and Agnes Beggs.


2.  Ellen McIlwaine McCauley m. 1890 at Wellington Street Presbyterian
Church to  David Bonnar (1864-1918), of Crosshill, Glenwherry, farmer;  They had two daus,
Jane and Ellen Bonnar.


2.  Edward Brice Killen McCauley (1862-1959) m. 1893 at the 3rd Presbyterian Church in Ballymena to Annie Martin (1874-1925) and they emigrated in 1883 to Amo Township, Cottonwood, Minnesota.  Edward owned 440 acres of land there.


3.  Edward James McCauley, Jr. (1896-1950) m. Inga Helen Eidem (1899-1990), dau of John
 Eidem and Marit Grotte.


3.  Crawford Brice  McCauley (1898-1956)
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: pablo1 on Thursday 20 December 18 03:26 GMT (UK)
We know that the Adair family moved from Cottonwood, MN to Livingston County, New York.  But I have also found the following:  Andrew Gardner of Buffalo, New York and William Gardner of Detroit, Michigan, visiting their cousin, Elma Buchanan.

Elma Buchanan, nee McCauley, was married to Thomas Buchanan.  Elma died on June 29, 1958 and was buried in Temple Hill Cemetery.  She left at least one son, Charles Thomas Buchanan.
Thomas Buchanan died on Jan. 23, 1938, aged 72.  Thomas left the following brothers and sisters:

Hugh Buchanan, twin of Tom.  Hugh died May 28, 1944; m. Ellen Armstrong
William Buchanan of Geneseo, NY
Samuel Buchanan of Mt. Morris, NY
Andrew Buchanan of Sonyea, NY
John Buchanan of Ireland
Charles Buchanan of Ireland
Martha Buchanan of Ireland
One more brother name unknown at this time.

The main question is how were these two Gardners related to the Andrew Gardner who lived in Cottonwood.

Best website to use is Fultonhistory.com  This site has a lot of digitalized newspapers dealing with the Mt. Morris, Groveland, Geneseo, and Sonyear areas.  Other related families from Antrim are Service (Servis), McTarnaghan, and Beggs.
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: KiwiRose on Monday 31 December 18 05:01 GMT (UK)
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We know that the Adair family moved from Cottonwood, MN to Livingston County, New York.  But I have also found the following:  Andrew Gardner of Buffalo, New York and William Gardner of Detroit, Michigan, visiting their cousin, Elma Buchanan.

Thank you for the above. I was unaware of the information about William Gardner, (Detroit, Michigan) and Andrew (Buffalo) visiting their cousin Elma Buchanan, nee McCauley.  The brothers, William and Andrew are sons of William John Gardner who was a younger brother of Elma’s mother, Agnes McCauley, nee Gardner.

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Best website to use is Fultonhistory.com  This site has a lot of digitalized newspapers dealing with the Mt. Morris, Groveland, Geneseo, and Sonyear areas.  Other related families from Antrim are Service (Servis), McTarnaghan, and Beggs.

I have delved into the Fultonhistory site which is brilliant. The Service (Servis) family are of interest as I believe Sarah Service, nee Gardner, who married John Service is part of my Gardner tree. There are Beggs connections also. The McTarnahan’s are completely unknown to me.

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The main question is how were these two Gardners related to the Andrew Gardner who lived in Cottonwood.

I have thought long and hard about the above question.

The Cottonwood Andrew’s parents were John Gardner and Mary Ann McNeight (McKnight).

Livingston’s Agnes McAuley nee Gardner’s parents were John and Mary (nee Mackey) Gardner.

The Cottonwood Andrew and Livingston County Agnes could only be related through their Gardner grandfathers, Thomas and Andrew, or a generation or two further back. (I’ve ignored the possibility of a sibling marriage as too difficult at the moment.)

There could be a connection through Cottonwood Andrew’s wife Jane, nee McAuley, and Livingston County’s David McCauley, husband of the above mentioned Agnes.

It looks like the Livingston County’s David McCauley’s parents were Robert and Eliza (Service) McCauley married 23 May 1848. Robert’s parents were supposedly John McCawley and Jane Gardner.  This possibility rang a bell.

Cottonwood’s Jane Gardner’s (nee McCauley) parents were James (d 1874) and Ellen (nee Killen) McAuley of Ardymagh.  Who were James of Ardymagh’s parents?

Could they be the John and Jane McCawley, farmer, of Ardymagh who featured in “Journal of the Royal Society of Antiquaries of Ireland” - “Some recent Cases of Remarkable Longevity” published in 1893? 

The article stated that Jane died aged 97 on 12 July and John at 103 on 12 August. No years mentioned. To verify this I searched for evidence of John and Jane’s deaths in Ireland Civil Registration, up to 1893, but could find no match with their names, ages or dates. Maybe there was a mixture of fact and fiction in the article as with many family stories.
I also noted that the 1813 Ballyeaston Census has a John and Jane McAuley both aged 39 yrs and chn: David 9, Elisabeth 8, Jane 5, James 3 and Ann ½  living in Lower Glenwhirry.

My brain almost burnt out trying to find a Cottonwood/ Livingston County connection so I hope you can make sense of this. Maybe I am barking up the wrong tree and I have missed, or misinterpreted, some piece of information that could prove my speculation over James and Jane McCawley of Ardymagh as complete nonsense. You have far more knowledge of the McAuley’s than I have so I am interested in your thoughts.

Happy New Year.

KiwiRose.
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: pablo1 on Tuesday 01 January 19 13:45 GMT (UK)
KiwiRose, a very happy new year to you, too!  I am away from home now, but when I return I will look through my notes and see if I can tie anything together.  The John McCauley and his Gardner wife who both lived to an advanced age was mentioned by one of the McCauleys who had emigrated, so I believe their story that was in the Journal of Archeology for Antrim to be true.  However, finding out the relationship between all of them is a whole different kettle of fish.  My first break came when I found that my grandfather's passage (George McCauley Robinson's) had been paid by his uncle and that my grandfather's brother, Thomas Robinson, had also immigrated,  Tom stayed and died in Livingston Co., NY whereas my grandather died in SF.  As far as the McTarnaghan family, I have only been able to find out so far that this family is somehow related to the Buchanan family.  One of my points of interest is that I believe my branch of the Macauleys (McCauleys) hail from the area of Dumbarton in Scotland.  If this is so, it is of interest that although the Macaulays and Buchanans were related by marriage, this was done to stop the feuding as the Macaulays were fighting with the Buchanans, the Galbraiths and the Campbells in Scotland.
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: KiwiRose on Friday 04 January 19 04:05 GMT (UK)
Update:

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The John McCauley and his Gardner wife who both lived to an advanced age was mentioned by one of the McCauleys who had emigrated, so I believe their story that was in the Journal of Archeology for Antrim to be true.

 In my initial search for the deaths of the above McCauley's in Ireland Civil Registration I only searched the Ballymena registered deaths and neglected to check out Antrim as well. Bingo, there they were!

Death of JOHN MCAULEY in 1870
Group Registration ID   N/R
SR District/Reg Area   Antrim
Deceased Age at Death   102
Returns Year   1870
Returns Quarter   3
Returns Volume No   11
Returns Page No   5


Death of JANE MCAULEY in 1870
Group Registration ID   N/R
SR District/Reg Area   Antrim
Deceased Age at Death   97
Returns Year   1870
Returns Quarter   3
Returns Volume No   11
Returns Page No   5

Familysearch - Ireland Deaths 1864 – 1870 entry states that they both died in Ballynashee, Bashee (Rashee), Jane, a married farmer’s wife on 11 July 1870 and John, a widowed farmer, on 8 Aug 1870.

Now I have to be patient and wait for an update on irishgenealogy.ie to view images for further details (for free) to see who was present at death. This should help me with my Gardner’s and you with your McAuley’s.

Kind regards,

KiwiRose.
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: pablo1 on Monday 07 January 19 04:44 GMT (UK)
My  McAuley line; now of Mt. Morris, Groveland, Geneseo, etc.: all of Livingston. County, New York

1.  John M'Cawley of Rashee, b. abt. 1794 m. 1824 Jane Gardner
of Magheraban
2.  Robert McCauley b. abt. 1824 m. Eliza (Elizabeth) Service, dau of John
Service and Sarah Gardner of Carnlea.
3.  David McCauley (1846-1921) m. 1 1871 at Ballymena 3rd Presbyterian Church to
Agnes Gardner 81858-1905); m. 2 in USA to Mary A. Campbell (1856-1933)
4.  Thomas James Macauley (1872-1949) m. Maude May Smith (1888-1982)
4.  Elma Macauley b. 1874 m. Thomas Buchanan
4.  Celia Macauley, died 1941 m. Thomas Van Valkenburg
4.  Robert Macauley m. Mabel Morris
4.  Herbert John Macauley (1882-1924) m. Sarah Glover, died 1934.
4.  Agnes Macauley (1884-1941) m. William Morris
4.  Elizabeth Ann (Peg) Macauley, died 1940; m. 1 Leo Davenport (divorced); m. 2 Joseph Kieffer
4.  Mabel Macauley (twin) died aged 4
4.  May (twin with Mabel) m. David Miller
4.  David Burris Macauley (1894-1958) m. Matilda (Tillie) Jane Love, (1890-1956).
4.  Kathleen Macauley, died 1925, m. William Dolan
3.  Sarah Jane McCauley m. 1875 at Ballymena, 3rd Presbyterian Church to William Robinson, son of Thomas Robinson and Mary Townsley of Ballycor, Ardymaugh.
4.  George Macauley Robinson, my grandfather, m. 1910 Nora Marie Higgins
5.  William Robert Robinson (1914-1987) m. Laney Adams (1922-1978)--my parents
4.  Thomas (Tom) Robinson; of Mt. Morris, NY; died 1950
3.  Jenny McCauley m. 1881 at Wellington Street Presbyterian to William Dodds, son of John Dodds and Martha Houston.
3.  George McAuley, b. 1857 m. 1895 Mary Agnes Blair, dau of Robert Blair
3.  Elizabeth McCauley (1864- 1947) m. James Buchanan (to Livingston Co., NY)
4.  Mary Buchanan (1895-1993) m. Henry Hunter Fraser (1893-1957)
4.  Martha Buchanan (1899-1970) m. Charles T. Cullen (1895-1945)
4.  Joseph Q. Buchanan (1886-1983) of Groveland, NY; m. Katherine Riordon
3.  John McAuley (c. 1864 - 1903); labourer; from Dubarton, Scotland; m. Mary ?, b. abt. 1874
(according to his obit he died on Sept. 14, 1903, aged 45; left wife and three children; he was born Ballynashee, Co. Antrim.  Came to the USA on board the Oceanic in 1902 which sailed from Liverpool; on board was his nephew, Tom Robinson, aged 19, born Ireland.
4.  John Dodds McCauley (c. 1888/1891-1942)
4.  ?
4.  ?
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: pablo1 on Monday 07 January 19 05:10 GMT (UK)
Other connections formed in Livingston County, New York

1.  James Love, Sr., died 1930, aged 86;  born about 1845 in Co. Antrim; emigrated in 1865;  buried Mt. Morris Cemetery.
2.  James C. Love, Jr.
2.  Mrs Alexander McCullough of Sonyea, NY
2.  Mrs David Macauley of LeRoy
1.  Andrew Love, brother of James, Sr., of Ireland
------------------------

1.  Francis McCullough of Co. Antrim
2.  Mrs Thomas McNeill of Co. Antrim
2.  Mrs John Doole, of Co. Antrim
2.  John McCullough of "      "
2.  Samuel McCullough of "  "
2.  William McCullough of  "  "
2.  Robert McCullough of  "   "
2.  James McCullough of Hubbard, Ohio, USA
2.  Henry A. McCullough of Youngstown, Ohio
2.  Thomas McCullough of New Castle, Pennsylvania, USA
2.  David McCullough of Toronto, Canada m. ?
2.  Alexander McCullough, died 1933, aged 46; b. Co. Antrim; emigrated to USA in 1907;
m. 1910 Mary Love, dau of James Love, Sr.
**McCullough family related to James Storey of Toronto and Mrs William Templeton of Hamilton, Canada

--------------------------

1.  Robert McConnell of Sonyea, NY;  Uncle of Alexander McCullough;  Robert died 1950, aged 80;  died at 61 Fountain Street, Rochester, NY, at the home of his dau, Mrs Fred Buchanan;  Robert was the head carpenter at Craig Colony; m. Elizabeth Hoey, sister of James Hoey of Ireland;  Robert was born in Glenwherry, Co. Antrim and emigrated to the U.S. in 1909;  buried Temple Hill Cemetery.
2.  John McConnell of Rochester, NY
2.  William H. McConnell of Brooklyn, NY
2.  Margaret E. (Marguerite) McConnell m. Fred Buchanan
1.  Agnes McConnell m. John Graham Kelty and lived Denver, Colorado
2.  John McConnell Kelty m. Emma Herholz
2.  Margaret Jane Kelty died 1963 m. 1921 George M. Schmidt; lived Emporia, Kansas
2.  Tom Kelty of Sun City, Arizona
2.  William Kelty of Pittsburgh
2.  James Kelty of Miami, Florida
2.  Mrs John Pilkinton

Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: KiwiRose on Saturday 19 January 19 22:13 GMT (UK)
Pablo,

Thank you for the update of your US McCauley family.  It all helps to slowly unravel the who’s who amongst the Gardner/McCauley branches. 

The lack of records in Ireland has been overcome to a certain extent with the increasing number of records and images available online from the USA and elsewhere.  Some of these records have resulted in my most useful clues concerning family members who emigrated from Ireland. Many confirm family stories.  Whilst searching recently for another Irish family tree branch, I found witnesses to a 1908 marriage that finally proved the continued close connection between the next generations of the Washington State families of two great uncles. (Great Uncles were grandchildren of my Ann Gardner.)

Kind regards,
KiwiRose.
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: pablo1 on Monday 21 January 19 03:05 GMT (UK)
KiwiRose, Thank you for all of your assistance.  I feel bad sometimes that I cannot do  more research because of work constraints.  Livingston County, New York  seems to have been a real hotbed for Scotch-Irish immigration.  I will make a post soon on the Houstoun family the originally moved there from the Ballyalbana(gh) area of Co. Antrim.  I am not sure why my grandfather moved west rather stay in that area.  However, it might have been due to him not being interested in farming.  Although he liked horses, he also was fond of cars and doing mechanical work.  After coming west, he got jobs as a groom and driver with two wealthy families:  the first was a wealthy businessman and the second was the Pres. of the Bank of California.  It may well be that the Macauleys who were employed by Arthur Brisbane, the newspaper executive for the Hearst newspapers, were able to furnish him a letter of recommendation from Mr Brisbane or Mr Hearst.  My father never talked much about family history, so the only real story I know is this:  one of his father's relations moved to Australia and owned a lot of propery there.  So far, the only family I have found that might fit this description is the Killen family who became very large landowners in Australia.
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: KiwiRose on Tuesday 22 January 19 04:51 GMT (UK)
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My father never talked much about family history, so the only real story I know is this:  one of his father's relations moved to Australia and owned a lot of propery there.  So far, the only family I have found that might fit this description is the Killen family who became very large landowners in Australia.

As I had had a relatively easy search for Gardner’s in Lismore, NSW, Australia I thought I’d do a pot luck search for McAuley’s from Antrim for fun. It didn’t take too long to find a couple born in the Glenwherry area living in the Nanango district of Queensland.

This family are probably not the Australian branch referred to above but many of the names were familiar. The brief details of what was found are below:

Thomas McCauley (1859 – 1934) the son of David McAuley (d 1907 Crosshill, Glenwherry) and Mary Service (d. 1920 in Mistyburn). Thomas’s Nanango farm was called Cross Hills.

Thomas married Margaret Clarke (1864 – 1945) in Queensland in 1883, daughter of Francis Clarke (d 1902 in Ballynashee) and Janet Bonar. In his will the widowed Francis Clarke left his Crosshill farm to his daughter Jane McAuley.  Jane McAuley’s two daughters, Jane Bonnar McAuley and Ellen Brice McAuley, were also mentioned in the will. (Aussie resident daughter Margaret got nothing!)   Jane McAuley’s (nee Clarke) husband was James who was a farmer.


I hope this does not cause you further McCauley confusion!

Kind regards,
KiwiRose.
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: pablo1 on Tuesday 22 January 19 12:00 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the very interesting information, KiwiRose.  It looks as though I will have to see what I can find in the land down under.  Don't worry about causing confusion as since starting this hobby confusion has become my middle name.  With best wishes, Paul
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: KiwiRose on Thursday 24 January 19 22:40 GMT (UK)
I just had to follow up on the Clarke /McCauley Queensland, Australia family, and the Ballynashee McAuley’s as the names found were so familiar.

You have done an amazing amount of research so you probably already have some, if not all, of the information below.

Marriage of Jane Clarke of Kinneygallough to James McAuley, Farmer of Ballynashee ,  24 March 1886.
Fathers: Francis Clarke and James McAuley, both farmers. Witnesses: David Bonnar and Ellen McAuley.

Will of James McAuley of Ardymagh, Townland of Ballynashee who died 1874 left his farm to sons John and James. Wife Ellen mentioned and daughters Jane McAuley, Sarah Wilson McAuley, Ellen McIlwaine McAuley, and son Edward Brice Killen McCauley.

There is now a connection found between the Cottonwood, Minnesota, Ballynashee, Antrim and Queensland, Australia McCauleys.

Cottonwood, Minnesota’s Jane Gardner (nee McCauley) whose parents were James (d 1874) and Ellen (nee Killen) McAuley of Ardymagh and her Cottonwood brother Edward with their Ballynashee brother James McAuley who married Jane Clarke in 1886. Jane Clarke McAuley’s sister, Margaret Clarke married Thomas McCauley in 1883 in Queensland, Australia.

As family often join family/neighbours when they emigrate, it would not be a surprise if Thomas McCauley did likewise in 1881. Margaret Clarke joined him in 1883. Maybe it was the Killen’s that you have mentioned. 

Kind regards,
Kiwi Rose.
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: pablo1 on Friday 25 January 19 06:45 GMT (UK)
KiwiRose,
I am very grateful for your most excellent lead.  Here is what I have been able to find so far:

1.  David McCauley m. Mary Service [Were living at 13 Crosshill in 1901 census]
Probate of David's will granted to John Service and James Lamont, farmers.

2.  Thomas McCauley 1859-1934 m. 1883 Margaret Clarke 1864-1945, dau of Francis Clarke and Janet Bonar

3.  Miss J. McCauley of Kingaroy

3.  Mrs. J. Ward of Nanango

3.  Jack McCauley of Millmerran

3.  David McCauley of Nanango m. Elleanor Ann 1890-1953

4.  Flying Officer Gordon John McCauley 1910-1986; he was eganged to F. T. Powell of Taree, NSW, so there is a good chance that they later married.

4.  Mable Lorne McCauley became engaged to John Cilento Mitchell of Brisbane and Canberra.  There is also a good chance that they were later married.

4.  Ella Marjorie McCauley engaged in 1948 to Graham Robert Brandon, son of Stanley Brando of West End

3.  Frank McCauley of  "Rosneath",Mundubbera, d. 1978 m. Lillian Isabel ?, died 1979

4.  Thelma Ethel May McCauley, only dau, engaged in 1948 to marry Warwick Alexander Howie, eldest son of F. A. Howie of "Waverley", Kingaroy

3.  Service McCauley of Sandgate

3.  (William) Clarke McCauley of Mundubbera, 1899-1961 m. Minnie Christable, 1900-1986

4.  Margaret McCauley, only dau, engaged in 1948 to marry John Reen, 2nd son of J. J. Reen of Toowoomba.

3.  May McCauley m. G. H. Richards

4.  Boyd Richards engaged in 1943 to Hazel Smith, dau of C. H. Smith of Hivesville.

McCauley buried in Munduberra Cemetery whom I cannot place:

Alice Ogilvie McCauley 1920-2006
John McCauley c.1877-1976  m. Florence Susan c.1890-1954
Lee Francis McCauley 1983-2008
Ronald Francis Free McCauley, died aged 69 in 1987
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: Gilby on Sunday 31 March 19 16:37 BST (UK)
Belfast Weekly News, 13th Aug 1870:
MACAULAY - John Macaulay, Ardymagh, Glenwherry, in the 103rd year of his age.

Is the thinking that John McAuley was the father of James McAuley who married Ellen Killen?
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: pablo1 on Monday 01 April 19 02:24 BST (UK)
Gilby, that is what I am thinking, but I have no proof at present.
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: Gilby on Monday 01 April 19 22:21 BST (UK)
I feel reasonably convinced because James' father was called John, and he inherited the Ardymagh farm ... unless there was another John McAuley of Ardymagh around at the same time?

By the way, I have a map which indicates where John McAuley's farm was in 1825: the farm on the north side of the Ardymagh Road, about 150m from the junction with the Ballynashee Road. 

In fact, from the look of it, I think the cottage you can see on Google may still be the same one.  No streetview unfortunately.
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: pablo1 on Tuesday 02 April 19 02:49 BST (UK)
Gilby, if this is the case it will do much to tie the various McCauley families together.  It makes sense as to why two of the families finally ended up living near each other in Livingston County, New York.  It may also explain why one of the families went to Australia, perhaps following the Killen family.  Still unsure about the Killen connection, though.
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: pablo1 on Wednesday 03 April 19 04:34 BST (UK)
Here is the way I see this family coming together.  What are your opinions KiwiRose and Gilby?

1.  James McCawley (c. 1767-8 Aug. 1870) m. 1824 Jane Gardner (c. 1773-11 July 1870) of
     Magheraban.

2.  James McCauley of Ardymaugh (c. 1809-1874) m. 1846 Ellen Brice Killen

3.  John McCauley

3.  James Killen McCauley ( c. 1858-1948) m. Jane Bonner Clarke, dau of Francis Clarke and Jenny
     Bonner

4.  James Gardner McCauley  (c. 1887 - 1964)

4.  Jinney Bonar McCauley, b. abt. 1892

4.  Ellen B. (Bonar?  Brice?) McCauley, b. abt. 1895

3.  Jane McCauley m. 1877 Andrew Gardner @ Wellington St. Presbyterian

3.  Sarah Wilson McCauley m. 1875 @ Killbride Presbyterian Church to William Adair, d. 1912,
     school master, son of John Adair with issue.

3.  Ellen McIlwaine McCauley m. 1890 David Bonnar w/issue.

3.  Edward Brice McCauley (1862-1959) m. 1893 to Annie Martin, probable dau of Moses Martin,
     w/issue

2.  Robert McCauley, b. 1823 m. Elizabeth Service, dau of John Service and Sarah Gardner

3.  George McAuley  (1861-1932) m. 1895 Mary Agnes Blair  w/issue

3.  John McCauley (1858-1903), emigrated to Livingston County in 1902;  he came with Mary
     McCauley, but on the ship's manifest she was listed as being single, while he was listed as being
     married.  She was also much younger than he.  However, I believe one of their children was

4.  John Dodds McCauley (29 Feb. 1888 - 1962) ;  buried Lakeview Cemetery, Livingston Co., NY; 
     Because of his early birthdate, I don't think that Mary could have been his mother.

3.  David McCauley (1846-1921) m. 1 1871 @ Ballymena 3rd Presbyterian to Agnes Gardiner
    (Gardner); m. 2 in USA to Mary A. Campbell. w/ issue.

3.  Sarah Jane McCauley m. 1875 @ Ballymena 3rd Presbyterian Church to William Robinson, son of
     Thomas John Robinson and Mary Townsley, w/issue. At least two of their children emigrated to
     the USA:  George Macaulay Robinson, my grandfather, moved first to NY ,then to San Rafael,
     and finally to San Francisco.  George's brother, Thomas, lived and died in Livingston C., NY.

3.  Jenny McCauley m. 1881 @ Wellinton Street Presbyterian to William Dodds w/issue;  family
     emigrated to USA and livied in Livingston Co., NY.

3.  Elizabeth McCauley (1864-1947), buried Mt. Morris City Cemetery, Livingston Co., NY
     Find a grave website #154478133; m. 1886 @ Ballymena 2nd Presbyterian to James Buchanan,
     w/issue.  They also emigrated to Livingston Co., NY

2.  David McCauley (1826-1907) m. Mary Service;  in 1901 they were living at 13 Crosshill.

3.  Thomas McCauley (1859-1934) m. 1883 Margaret Clarke (1864-1945), dau of Francis Clarke
     and Janet Bonar, thus being a sister of James Killen McCauley's wife.  Thomas emigrated to
     Australia.  w/issue.

3.  John McCauley b. 1852 m. Maggie, b. 1862   [Might he be the John McCauley who married in
     1883 to Martha Dodds @ Glenwherry Presbyterian Church?]  John and Maggie had numerous
     issue but one in particular was

4.  Edward McCauley b. abt. 1893, blacksmith;  Edward m. in 1928 Margaret Robinson, dau. of
     Robert Robinson and Mary Smiley.

People of interest that may be connected:
Mary McCauley m. 1850 John Darragh @ Ballymena 3rd Presbyterian
Catherine McAuley m. 1866  William James Carson @ Wellington St. Presbyterian
Sarah McCauley m. 1850 William Fleck @ Glenwhirry Presbyterian
Sarah McCauley m. 1865 David Fleck @ Glenwhirry Presbyterian
Sarah Jane McCauley m. 1905  Alexander Dodds @ Ballymena 3rd Presbyterian
Cassie McCauley m. 1900 James Artes Coulter @ Ballymena 3rd Presbyterian
Joseph Queery McCauley from Glenwherry;  arrived in the U.S. in 1909, aged 34; b. abt. 1875
but disappears.

Finally,
Thomas Dodds McAuley (c.1933-2010), b. Ballyalbana, d. Ontario, Canada; m. Lois Elliott;
Tom's brother was Norman McAuley, dec., husband of Elsa Millar of Ballyalbana, dau of William Millar of Ballyeaston



Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: Gilby on Thursday 04 April 19 21:43 BST (UK)
Paul,

Which of the McCauley may have followed Killens to Australia?  And do you know which branch of the Killens we’re talking about?

I should say I don’t actually know for sure that James McAuley inherited the land farmed by John McAuley (the one who lived to 100-odd).  All I know is roughly where John farmed, but the Griffiths map on ancestryireland does not have numbers for this area, so I don’t know exactly which bit James farmed.  It may have been a different part of Ardymagh, which seems to have consisted of at least 200 acres (IPM).

You mentioned Sarah McCauley who married David Fleck.  Her father was John McCauley.  I found this article about her funeral which mentions many relatives, including McCauley cousin and nephews.

Ballymena Observer, 20th Jan 1911:
DEATH OF MRS. DAVID FLECK, BALLYNULTO...
Amongst those present were --- David Fleck (husband), John McCauley, Greenhill; James Fleck, Cross; George Fleck, Robert Fleck, WIlliam Fleck, Bushmills (sons); James Farquhar, Clattery Knowes; William Elder, Kells (sons-in-law); George McCauley, Ardymagh (cousin); David Fleck, Greenhill; David Farquhar, Clattery Knowes (grandsons); Samuel Brown, Bog Battery; George Fleck, Greenhill; John Fleck, Clougher (brothers-in-law); William Brown, Bog Battery; Samuel Brown do.; James Fleck, Ballynulto; George Fleck, Greenhill; William Fleck, Ballynulto; Robert Fleck, Greenhill; John Fleck, do.; George Fleck, Cross; James Fleck, Ballygelly; William Fleck, Cloughan; James Carson, Lisnahilt; Andrew Hoey, Crosshill; Samuel Hoey, do.; George Fleck, Black Top; David McCauley, Bog Batter; Robert McCauley, Crosshill; Hugh Rea, do.; Thomas Rea, do. (nephews); James Fleck, sen., Ballynulto; James Fleck, Burnside; John Fleck, Woodvale; Robert Fleck, Blackstown; W. J. Fleck, Ahoghill; David McCauley, Crosshill; David McClintock, do.; Thomas McClintock, Misty Burn; Houston Hoey, do.; William McConnell, Broad Lea; Samuel Barr, Crumkill; John Speers, Maxwellswalls; James McKinney, Ballymena; Arthur Wylie, Greenhill; John Gray, Roughan; James Owens, Ballynulto; James Barton, Kerney Hill (relatives)
… [goes on to list other mourners, non-relatives]

Gilby
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: pablo1 on Friday 05 April 19 03:28 BST (UK)
Thanks, Gilby.  This information on the Flecks will prove quite useful.  As far as the Killens, their relationship is still a mystery.  The only bit of info concerning the Macaulays that I got from my father was that some relation went to Australia and acquired a huge amount of land there.  So far my research in this regards points only to the Killen family.  However, this is only a bit of family lore that cannot really be trusted.
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: Gilby on Friday 05 April 19 19:49 BST (UK)
Hmm.  Well I suppose that could refer to Edward Killen who basically lived next door at Glenville, Jockeysquarter.  He sold up and emigrated to Australia in the 1870s and I think he ended up with vast tracts of land.

I still can’t figure out who Ellen’s father William was though.  Have you seen the original marriage cert to check he was definitely called William?  I’ve only got a transcription of the church record.

Speaking of Edward Killen, I see that was one of the witnesses to the marriage in 1846 – probably Edward senior (my ggg grandfather) who died in 1856?
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: pablo1 on Monday 08 April 19 02:18 BST (UK)
I really haven't done that much research on Ellen or her supposed father William Killen, so I have never seen the original marriage certificate.  When I was doing research on my great grandmothe's marriage her father was listed as being Richard on the transcript that I had purchased but later it turned out to be Robert.  Quite a big gap from Richard to Robert.  Also, I found out that the following information that I had previously put may be in error:


2.  David McCauley (1826-1907) m. Mary Service;  in 1901 they were living at 13 Crosshill.

3.  Thomas McCauley (1859-1934) m. 1883 Margaret Clarke (1864-1945), dau of Francis Clarke
     and Janet Bonar, thus being a sister of James Killen McCauley's wife.  Thomas emigrated to
     Australia.  w/issue.

3.  John McCauley b. 1852 m. Maggie, b. 1862   [Might he be the John McCauley who married in
     1883 to Martha Dodds @ Glenwherry Presbyterian Church?]  John and Maggie had numerous
     issue but one in particular was

4.  Edward McCauley b. abt. 1893, blacksmith;  Edward m. in 1928 Margaret Robinson, dau. of
     Robert Robinson and Mary Smiley.

Another researcher has David McAuley's parents as being John McAuley and Mary Ann Laws.
Also, David McAuley and Mary Serviss (Service) had the following children besides Thomas:
Agnes, Robert, and William Patrick.  I need to go back and reevaluate.  Although I am sure that the two Macauley familes are related, I am not sure as to how they will fit together at the moment.
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: pablo1 on Monday 08 April 19 02:18 BST (UK)
Recent information on the Australian branch of the family plus corrections:
1.  David McCauley m. Mary Service [Were living at 13 Crosshill in 1901 census]
Probate of David's will granted to John Service and James Lamont, farmers.

2.  Thomas McCauley 1859-1934 m. 1883 Margaret Clarke 1864-1945, dau of Francis Clarke and Janet Bonar.  Probate of Tom's will granted to David of Nanango, farmer, and Francis of Mundubbera, storekeeper.

3.  Miss J. McCauley of Kingaroy

3.  Mrs. J. Ward of Nanango

3.  Jack McCauley of Millmerran

3.  David McCauley of 'Danelle',  Nanango m. Elleanor Ann 1890-1953

4.  Flying Officer Gordon John McCauley 1910-1986; he was eganged to F. T. Powell of Taree, NSW, so there is a good chance that they later married.

5.  Son born 1953

4.  Mable Lorne McCauley, 4th dau, became engaged to John Cilento Mitchell of Brisbane and Canberra.  There is also a good chance that they were later married.

4.  Ella Marjorie McCauley, youngest dau, engaged in 1948 to Graham Robert Brandon, only son of Stanley Brandon of West End

4.  Benjamin Thomas McCauley m. 1940 Edna Peterson, dau of Charles Peterson
     [Edna' brother was Stan Peterson and her sister, Mrs C. Evans].

5.  Son born 1942

4.  Ken McCauley

3.  Frank McCauley of  "Rosneath",Mundubbera, d. 1978 m. 1914 to Lillian Isabel Free, died 1979;
     Married at St. Andrew's Presbyterian Church;  Lillian was the 2nd dau of Ben Free of Rose Lawn,
     Clifton;  [Her family members--Ethel Free, sister, Janet Sylvia Free, sister, Miss A. Free, sister
     and George and Roy Free, possible brothers.  Her sister, Janet, m. in 1928 to Arthur Ford, son of
     W. E Ford of King's Creek.]  In 1949 Frank was living at Frankvale and ranching 3,700 acres.
     He had moved to Mundubbera in 1917.

4.  Thelma Ethel May McCauley, only dau, engaged (need to double check date) to marry Warwick
     Alexander Howie,eldest son of F. A. Howie of "Waverley", Kingaroy;  Looks as those this
    engagement was broken as Thelma married in 1942 to John (Jack) Maxwell, only son of W. J.
    Maxwell of Brisbane.

4.  Ronlad Francis Free McCauley, only son (1918-1987).  Married in 1947 to Alice Webb, dau of late W. E. Webb of Reid River, Townsville.  Alice was a nurse.  She had a brother, Henry Webb.  Their marriage took place at St. John's Church of England.  Also, Alice had a sister, Mrs S. Wright.

5.  Son


3.  Service McCauley of Sandgate

3.  (William) Clarke McCauley of Mundubbera, 1899-1961 m. Minnie Christable, 1900-1986

4.  Margaret McCauley, only dau, engaged in 1948 to marry John Reen, 2nd son of J. J. Reen of Toowoomba.

3.  May McCauley m. G. H. Richards

4.  Boyd Richards engaged in 1943 to Hazel Smith, dau of C. H. Smith of Hivesville.

McCauley buried in Munduberra Cemetery whom I cannot place:

Alice Ogilvie McCauley 1920-2006
John McCauley c.1877-1976  m. Florence Susan c.1890-1954 (This might be Service McCauley)
Lee Francis McCauley 1983-2008


Not buried there but unable to place her.
In 1938 Salvation Army Capt. Glays McCauley of Nanango m. Capt. H. Baskin of Petersham.
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: KiwiRose on Tuesday 09 April 19 23:46 BST (UK)
Quote
You mentioned Sarah McCauley who married David Fleck.  Her father was John Fleck.  I found this article about her funeral which mentions many relatives, including McCauley cousin and nephews.

Regarding the Flecks, a surname I am unfamiliar with, NZ’s Papers Past has a Waipukurau marriage listed in the Patea Mail on the 23 Sept 1931 of Mary Ann the 4th daughter, of Mrs and the late John Fleck, Moorfields, Ballymena, North Island (Ireland?) to a Raymond Lord.  I see that there was a John Fleck of Greenhill listed amongst the mourners at the funeral of MRS. DAVID FLECK, BALLYNULTO in 1911.

Quote
Hmm.  Well I suppose that could refer to Edward Killen who basically lived next door at Glenville, Jockeysquarter.  He sold up and emigrated to Australia in the 1870s and I think he ended up with vast tracts of land.

Searching NZ’s newspapers at the Papers Past site using ‘Glenwherry / Glenwhirry’ as a search word throws up a couple of familiar Antrim names including the below:
The death of Isabella, the youngest daughter of the late Edward Killen, Esq., of Glenwille, Glenwhirry, County Antrim, Ireland. Northern Advocate, 9 February 1920 at the home of her niece, Mrs Henry Smith.
I see that she was 77 yrs old according to her death registration (under Killin)i.e.  bc 1843.
There is a mention in Edward Killen of Glenwhirry’s 1856 Will of his daughter, Isabella.

Isabella’s will is available to view online. It may contain some clues to advance your Killen search.
"New Zealand, Archives New Zealand, Probate Records, 1843-1998," FamilySearch.org  (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2XL-SPND : 21 February 2019), Isabella Killen, 1920; citing , , record number 13957, Archives New Zealand, Auckland Regional Office; FamilySearch digital folder 101543881.


Also the probate site has  a John Killen’s will (b. Glenville, nr Ballymena,Co Antrim,  d 1920 Katikati, NZ.) who is probably Isabella’s brother. He was 91 years old. As well as his children in Australia except for one NZ daughter , John’s will mentions his cousin a James Miller Killen of Horahora, Whangarei.
 James Miller Killen’s  July 1928 obituary states that  was born in Co Down, became a Presbyterian Minister then  a lawyer and Mayor of Whangarei.

I spotted an Edward Brice Killen Gordon born 1885 in NZ. He served in WW1.  I seems his parents were a Martha Killlen and Rev David Gordon. Martha’s father was a Rev. James Killen of the First Church, Cumber, Co Down. I think the Rev. James was born in Antrim.

You may or may not be aware of this site on Rootsweb which could help you out with your family Australian connection that your father spoke about.
KILLEN Family of Carnmoney & Ballymena (and the New World) - NIR ...
https://lists.rootsweb.com/hyperkitty/list/nir-antrim@rootsweb.com/thread/10783395/

Sep 7, 2001 - The main Antrim family names of interest to me are: KILLEN, ... It can be viewed & accessed at: http://worldconnect.genealogy. ... These two sons, and a third, Edward Killen (1800-1856) who lived at Glenville,

And:

Ted Marr's MARR KILLEN YOUNG GRAY WILSON TURNER ...

wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SHOW&db=tedmarr&recno...

Nov 1, 2013 - KILLEN, Edward b: 14 OCT 1833 in Co. Antrim,,,Ireland d: 4 JAN 1909 in Manly,,NSW,Australia KILLEN, Edward b: 1 FEB 1895 in Ireland,,,


The above Edward and family seem to be the only down under Killens that owned a considerable amount of land (NSW around the now greater Sydney area ) although there does not seem to be a close McAuley connection.

Kind regards,
KiwiRose.
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: KiwiRose on Wednesday 10 April 19 00:03 BST (UK)
Quote
Belfast Weekly News, 13th Aug 1870:
MACAULAY - John Macaulay, Ardymagh, Glenwherry, in the 103rd year of his age.

Is the thinking that John McAuley was the father of James McAuley who married Ellen Killen?

Quote
I feel reasonably convinced because James' father was called John, and he inherited the Ardymagh farm ... unless there was another John McAuley of Ardymagh around at the same time?

By the way, I have a map which indicates where John McAuley's farm was in 1825: the farm on the north side of the Ardymagh Road, about 150m from the junction with the Ballynashee Road. 

Gilby may be able to shed some light on my following question about Ardmagh.

Could Ardymagh come under the heading of Lower Glenwherry in 1813?

 My feeling is that John and Jane (Gardner) McCawley/ McAuley are possibly the couple recorded in the 1813 Ballyeaston Census residing in Lower Glenwhirry. At that time the couple had two sons, David 9 and James 3 and three daughters, Elisabeth 8, Jane 5, Ann 6mths.

The only other McAuley family in the Ballyeaston Census were in Ballyboley: Robert 52yrs, wife Jennet 53, farmers and chn, Margaret 22, Thomas 20, Susan 13 and finally a John 4 (!!)

It is also my current thinking that the John and Jane (Gardner) McCawley, farmer, of Ardymagh who featured in “Journal of the Royal Society of Antiquaries of Ireland” - “Some recent Cases of Remarkable Longevity” published in 1893 are the couple in Lower Glenwherry in 1813 Census.

According to the article, John married aged 30 yrs and Jane was six years younger.  This would make Jane really c33yrs in 1813 with plenty of child bearing years ahead of her. In 1813 there is no son named after his father which was the usual practice in Ireland.  It also said that John McCawley of Ardymagh had 4 sons and 6 daughters all of whom were still alive, other than one daughter, when John died in Aug 1870.

Unfortunately John doesn’t seem to have left a will which would have been a big help in finding all his children.     

Kind regards,
KiwiRose.       

Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: pablo1 on Wednesday 10 April 19 00:12 BST (UK)
Thanks for all of your hard work, Kiwi Rose.  I haven't gotten around to doing much research on the Killen family as more marriages had taken place amongst the Gardeners and Service (Serviss) families.  These connections have been keeping me busy enough.  As far as the Fleck family is concerned this might be of interest as they also ended up in Livingston County, New York, along with the Macauleys, Gardners, Adairs, etc.

1.  William Fleck married Sarah McCauley in Co. Antrim.
2.  Martha Fleck (1863-1907) m. 1889 John Bovee.
     They were living in Livingston County in the usual area around
     the towns of Groveland, Dansville, and Mt. Morris.
3.  Victor David Bovee (1891-1961) m. Mary Mastin.
3.  Marjorie Bovee m. a Mr. Rudledge and was living Scottsburg.
3.  Alice Bovee m. a Mr Kreiley and was living in Dansville.
2.  Isabelle F. Bovee (1892-1982) m. 1918 Oswald S. Brenning
3.  Frances Brenning m. Robert Hardiman of Barneveld
2.  Sarah Bovee (1899-1975) m. James Noble
3.  Jean Noble m. Mr. Kenyon
3.  Donald J. Noble (1921-1981) live Conesus
3.  John Noble of Groveland
2.  Edith Bovee m. Mr. Toland of Groveland

Mt. Morriss area seems to be basically an agricultural area so families tended to intermarry.  The above mentioned Mastin family was one such family that is connected.to other Antrim families.  Not sure about the others.
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: Gilby on Wednesday 10 April 19 22:11 BST (UK)
Hi KiwiRose,

First I should point out I made a mistake in a post you quoted:

You mentioned Sarah McCauley who married David Fleck.  Her father was John Fleck.  I found this article about her funeral which mentions many relatives, including McCauley cousin and nephews.
 

This should say, “her father was John McAuley”.  His father was George Fleck.  (According to the church record transcription on Rootsireland.ie)

Thanks for the link to Isabella Killen’s will.

James Miller Killen of Whangarei was married to his 1st cousin 1r Annie Gilbert, daughter of William John Gilbert and Ellen Orr Killen.  Ellen’s father was Edward Killen of Glenville.  James’ father was the Rev James Miller Killen of Comber, Co Down, who was brother to Edward Killen of Glenville.

Martha Killen was a sister of James Miller Killen of Whangarei.  She married David Gordon at her father’s church in Comber in 1876.

Gilby
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: Gilby on Wednesday 10 April 19 22:16 BST (UK)

Gilby may be able to shed some light on my following question about Ardmagh.

Could Ardymagh come under the heading of Lower Glenwherry in 1813?

Unfortunately I don’t know the answer to the Ardymagh / Lower Glenwherry question.  I’ll see if I can find any clues tomorrow night.

In looking for the snippet about John McCawley in the “Journal of the Royal Society of Antiquaries of Ireland” I came across this snippet from an earlier paper of the same name in 1890:

“Robert Macauley, of Glenwherry, near Ballyclare, died a few years ago, aged 103 years.  His wife followed shortly afterwards, aged 102 years.”
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: pablo1 on Wednesday 10 April 19 23:59 BST (UK)
I found this yesterday searching through the Trove website:

1929--Mr and Mrs T. H. Hoey of Allora, Upper Forest Spring emigrated to Australia in 1880 from Glenwherry.  They were married in 1879.   When he got married his best man in Ireland was T. (Thomas) McCaully (McCauley) of Nanango.  Also mentioned celebrating their Golden anniversary were some of their Australian relations:  Mr King Hoey, Jack Hoey and Mr D. Hoey.
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: pablo1 on Friday 12 April 19 07:26 BST (UK)
I am not sure how the following are connected.  These are just some miscellaneous notes that I have collected:
Glenwherry Presbyterian Church-1895 marriage of William John M'Clean, eldest son of John M'Clean of Ballyalbana, to Maggie, eldest dau of Thomas Gardner of Glenwherry.
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Andrew Gardinier m. Sarah Kirkwood  1795-1889; of Ballyeaston; children:   Andrew, John, James, Hugh, Agnes, Mary and Anne; some? emigrated to Canada.
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1.  David Gamble m. Rebecca Carrell
2.  Margaret Gamble 1811-1902, b. in Philadelphia; m. 1832 David Service 1810-1867, born in Ire.
3.  Rebecca Service 1833-1853
3.  Thomas Service, b. 1834, Michigan
3.  Elizabeth Service 1836-1856
3.  David Gamble Service, b. 1841 Michigan; m. 1880
     emma Jane Henderschott, dau of James Bride Henderschott.
3.  Robert Service 1843-1892
3.  Margaret Service 1845-1913
3.  Ann Service 1850-1920 m. 1870 John A. Gregg
3.  Mary Service 1852-1905
3.  Douglas Service
---------------------------------

Old Rashee Cemetery
1.  John Service m.
2.  Robert  Forest Service 1805-1879 m. Mary Cameron and had
3.  Jennet Service 1828-1834, godparents being William Bell and Margaret Service
3.  John Service 1830-1916
3.  Elizabeth Service 1832-1911 m. Thomas Spencer 1825-1920;  South Carolina (findagrave)
---------------------------------------------

1.  Thomas Gardiner m. Susan Stirling
2.  William H. Gardiner b. 1874 in Ballynashee; died in L. A. in 1959 m.
     Nellie Margaret McGovern
3.  Mary
3.  William J.
3.  Nellie Susan
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1.  Thomas Service m. Agnes Bonner
2.  Joseph Service b. abt 1768 m. 1830 Mary Smythe Williams;  emigrated to Australia
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Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Friday 12 April 19 10:18 BST (UK)

Glenwherry Presbyterian Church-1895 marriage of William John M'Clean, eldest son of John M'Clean of Ballyalbana, to Maggie, eldest dau of Thomas Gardner of Glenwherry.



For reference, marriage 1895

Party 1 Name   WILLIAM MCCLAIN
Party 2 Name   MAGGIE GARDNER
Date of Event   14 October 1895
Group Registration ID   2234315
SR District/Reg Area   Ballymena

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1895/10540/5839310.pdf

KG
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Friday 12 April 19 10:20 BST (UK)
Ballyalbanagh townland, civil parish of Ballycor.

https://www.townlands.ie/antrim/antrim-upper/ballycor/ballyalbanagh/

KG
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: pablo1 on Saturday 13 April 19 09:15 BST (UK)
Kiltaglassan, many thanks for the added input.  All is very much appreciated.  More of my scattered notes:
Irish census of 1901 had David Fleck living at 12 Ballynulto.  Along with his were his wife Sarah and the following children:  Esther, Robert, James, William and George.  In 1911 David was listed as a widower but still living with him at 4 Ballynulto were George, Robert, William and probably just visiting his niece, Martha.    Martha was the daughter of John Fleck who in 1901 lived at 1 Green Hill, Glenwherry.  Interesting that a farm servant of John Fleck's was a Robert Macauley, aged 15.

Some will probates:  John McAuley of Crosshill, d. 1880, probate of will to David McAuley of Artlone and John Rea of Crosshill;  David McAuley of Crosshill died 1907, probate to John Servie and William James Lamont;  Robert McAuley of Crosshill died 1949, probate of will to Andrew Miller and William Hugh Brown.

Australia--1862, James Service of Co. Antrim m. Ellen Donoghue, 3rd dau of R. Donoghue of Co. Down;  1865--Ballarat, Hugh Beggs, son of William Beggs of Larne m. Ann Coupar, dau of John Coupar of Berwick, Mornington;  1888--Death of Mary Service, aged 78, formerly of "The Colon," Co. Antrim. She lived at Edward Street, Pyrmont;  1907--At Brookvale, alte of Horsham, death of James Beggs, native of Ballyclare, aged 80 years and five months;  1916--At Hopkins Point, Mary Gardner, wife of John Logan, aged 78, native of Broughshane, Co. Antrim.  She was buried Warrnambool Cemetery;  1921--Enid Booth, dau of Dr. James Booth, married W. J. Beggs, owner of Moglomenbie Station, son of Thomas Beggs, formely of Galgorm Castle, Co. Antrim.
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: Gilby on Sunday 14 April 19 11:09 BST (UK)
Also for reference, this is the full extract about John and Jane McCauley from “Some Recent Cases of Remarkable Longevity” (Seaton F. Milligan) in The Journal of the Royal Society of Antiquaries of Ireland, Fifth Series, Vol. 2, No. 3 (Oct., 1892), pp. 224-236

The following is a verbatim copy of a letter written in reply to some queries of mine, by an old schoolmaster who lives near Ballyclare, county Antrim; it is interesting from the quaint style in which it is written, as well as for its minuteness of detail:-" A short account of John M'Cawley, of Ardymagh, farmer, county of Antrim, barony of Upper Antrim. He was born in Braidlee, Glenwherry, of humble parents, both natives of said county, and about one mile distant between their places of birth. He married at the age of 30 years one Jane Gardiner, a native of Magheraban, in the next townland to where he was born; she was his junior by the space of six years. The marriage was performed by a blind minister who resided in Larne, who was allowed to earn his living by such. Both walked on foot to his destiny(1) and back; no conveyance was requisite. The said John M'Cawley entered upon their new career of life, for better for worse, with a goose and her goslings; made favourable progress onwards and upwards to sumptous­neas and respectability. He was never known to have been the worse of any strong drink but once in an April market in Ballyclare. He was pressed owing to some extra business to partake of two or three halfs, of which he was a great amount the worse, he said, as when he reached his destiny, got into bed, ejected a few mouthfulls. He was never known to have a headache, or sickness of any kind, neither smoked or chawed any ingredient excepting his food. Had all his teeth with him to the grave, all of them a double(2) set. His grey hairs were so few as not to be perceptible to the eye at a short distance, it was very dark and crisp, he had not much sickness at his latter end. They both died in Ardymagh, about one mile distant from each of their places of birth; she died first, and he on that day month exactly. She died on 12th July, aged 97 years, he on 12th August, aged 103. It is believed that both deaths occurred at same hour of day, two o'clock. He was father to 4 sons and 6 daughters, all of which were alive at his decease but one daughter. He had 46 grandchildren living at same time, viz. 19 grandsons, and 27 granddaughters. As to great grandchildren it is not known whether there were any or not, if any they could not be more than 3 or 4 at most. Emigration intervened, and docs so still; there are any amount of such since his death."

1. For destination.
2. I made enquiries, and was informed his front teeth were formed, like his molars, the same all round.


^ This is copied using Adobe OCR, so will no doubt contain errors.
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: Gilby on Sunday 14 April 19 12:38 BST (UK)
I’ve had a look for more references to Lower/Upper Glenwherry and pretty much drew a blank, so I’m not sure whether it could include Ardymagh.  I would guess not, because it probably just refers to different parts of Glenwherry townland.

I don’t think that rules out John and Jane McAuley from being the couple who died aged about 100 in 1870.  They are both listed as being aged about 39, which is about right for Jane, though John seems to have aged by an extra few years by 1870 (which isn’t unusual!).  Their eldest child being 9 fits with the parents marrying when they were roughly 30.  Though, as KiwiRose mentioned, Jane would have needed to have been a bit younger (say 6 years as per the journal article) to have had Robert in c1824.

Their son James aged 3 is perfect for James McAuley of Ardymagh who died in 1874 aged 65.  I paid for the certificate for James McAuley’s marriage to Eleanor Killen in 1846.  Her father is recorded as William there too.  The only difference is her address is “Glensie” rather than Glore.  I’m not sure where Glensie is…?
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: Gilby on Sunday 14 April 19 12:38 BST (UK)
The John McCauley and his Gardner wife who both lived to an advanced age was mentioned by one of the McCauleys who had emigrated, so I believe their story that was in the Journal of Archeology for Antrim to be true.  However, finding out the relationship between all of them is a whole different kettle of fish.  My first break came when I found that my grandfather's passage (George McCauley Robinson's) had been paid by his uncle and that my grandfather's brother, Thomas Robinson, had also immigrated,  Tom stayed and died in Livingston Co., NY whereas my grandather died in SF.

Paul, a couple of questions!  Who was the émigré McCauley who mentioned John McCauley and Jane Gardner?  Who was the uncle that paid your grandfather’s passage?
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: Gilby on Sunday 14 April 19 14:30 BST (UK)
KiwiRose,
I am very grateful for your most excellent lead.  Here is what I have been able to find so far:

1.  David McCauley m. Mary Service [Were living at 13 Crosshill in 1901 census]
Probate of David's will granted to John Service and James Lamont, farmers.

2.  Thomas McCauley 1859-1934 m. 1883 Margaret Clarke 1864-1945, dau of Francis Clarke and Janet Bonar
 

Do we have anything confirming the parents’ names in the marriage of Thomas McAuley to Margaret Clarke in 1883 in Australia?

When David’s daughters married in 1879 and 1880 (Jane to Thomas Hugh Hoey, and Sarah to Samuel Warden) their address is given as Artlone which is between Toome and Randalstown.  Is there a known connection to that area?

Added:  A David McAuley of Crosshill married Catherine Marshall in 1893.  This David’s father was also called David – if this is the above David then David junior isn’t mentioned in his father’s will.
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: Gilby on Sunday 14 April 19 15:41 BST (UK)
Just came across this in the civil records:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1883/10945/8000413.pdf

Three John Macauley/McCawley marriages on the one page.


Edit: On closer inspection, it looks like the middle "McCawley" is actually "McConkey"
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: pablo1 on Monday 15 April 19 00:24 BST (UK)
Gilby, my grandfather's passage to the U.S. according to the Ellis Island website was paid by William Dodds, son of John Dodds and Martha Houston.  William Houston Dodds had married to Jenny McCauley in 1881 at the Wellington Street Presbyterian Church.

This is from a newspaper article:

 Death at Groveland o f John M'CauIey. Aged 4 5 Years. Groveland, Sept. .14.—John McCauley, who was born at Ballynashee , County Antrim, Ireland, forty-five years ago, and has lived in this town about a year, died Sunday morning of inflammation of the bowels. He leaves a wife and three chlldren. Deceased comes of a long-lived Irish family. His grandmother, Jane Gardner , lived to be 99 , and his grandfather, John McCauley, died recently within  a 'few weeks of his aged wife , at the age of 102.   
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: KiwiRose on Monday 15 April 19 05:45 BST (UK)
Quote
    KiwiRose,
    I am very grateful for your most excellent lead.  Here is what I have been able to find so far:

    1.  David McCauley m. Mary Service [Were living at 13 Crosshill in 1901 census]
    Probate of David's will granted to John Service and James Lamont, farmers.

    2.  Thomas McCauley 1859-1934 m. 1883 Margaret Clarke 1864-1945, dau of Francis Clarke and Janet Bonar
     


Do we have anything confirming the parents’ names in the marriage of Thomas McAuley to Margaret Clarke in 1883 in Australia?

Gilby,

The Queensland historical BDM site has the deaths of Thomas and Margaret (Clarke) McAuley which mentions parents’ names.


1934   B25431   Thomas   McCauley   Parents: David McAuley    Mary Service


1945   C2160   Margaret   McCanley (!)  Parents: Francis Clarke    Janet Bonar

Their 1883 Queensland marriage only names the bride and groom. One would have to order a copy of the certificate for further information.

Regards,
KiwiRose

Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: pablo1 on Monday 15 April 19 06:00 BST (UK)
This one is of interest as well as it is a little contradictory of my previous post, both of which came from Australian newspaper articles:

1946--Warwick Daily News, Australia

Mrs. Jane Hoey wife of T. H. Hoey of Herbert Street, allora and late of Upper Forest Springs, aged 86 and four months.  She was the third daughter of the late David McCauley of Randalston, Co. Antrim.  She married Thomas H. Hoey on June 5, 1879 in the Presbyterian Church, Randalston (Previous post said Glenwherry).  Eldest son David born.  They had nine sons, five daughters, 28 grandchildren and 22 great grandchildren.
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: KiwiRose on Monday 15 April 19 06:37 BST (UK)

Quote
« Reply #37

I am not sure how the following are connected.  These are just some miscellaneous notes that I have collected:
Glenwherry Presbyterian Church-1895 marriage of William John M'Clean, eldest son of John M'Clean of Ballyalbana, to Maggie, eldest dau of Thomas Gardner of Glenwherry.
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Andrew Gardinier m. Sarah Kirkwood  1795-1889; of Ballyeaston; children:   Andrew, John, James, Hugh, Agnes, Mary and Anne; some? emigrated to Canada.

Pablo,

Information from my notes about Andrew and Sarah Kirkwood:

 Andrew and Sarah Kirkwood Gard(i)ner emigrated as an older couple with some, or all, of their unmarried children. The family appear in the Census of Canada from 1861 onwards.  Andrew died 1882 and Sarah in 1889 in Kincardine, Bruce County, Ontario.  (Andrew’s headstone has him as being c 90yrs)They may have had children who chose to remain behind in the Ballyeaston area.

 I have not found a McAuley connection in Kincardine.


I have found searching for the McAuley's and other Glenwherry families in Australia and latterly NZ really interesting especially with the free newspaper sites.

Regarding the 1946 Warwick Daily News item maybe the reporter or informant got the Church location wrong. 

Regards,
KiwiRose.

Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: kingy90210 on Monday 15 April 19 16:47 BST (UK)
Hi,
I managed to find this thread looking up to see if there was anything regarding my husband's family.

I am married to Paul McAuley, whose father is David McAuley. He now owns the farmland at ardymagh road, known locally as the "wee colin" . Paul's father's father was called David McAuley and he was married to Rose Gardener.

Davy inherited the land off his uncle James McAuley. James also had brothers called William, Bryce, Thomas (Tam), a twin that died and don't know his name, and David who is my father in law Davy's father.

I don't know if I can find out information you are looking for but I can try if you give me specific information you are after.

Thanks
Laura McAuley
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: pablo1 on Monday 15 April 19 23:53 BST (UK)
Dear Kingy90210,
Thank you very much for your post.  I am interested in the McAuleys living in the following areas of Ardymaugh, Glenwherry, Crosshill, Ballynure and Larne.  Quite and area to cover.  All of my McAuleys belonged to the Presbyterian Church it seems.  Any information that you have on your husband's family such as his grandparents, great grandparents, great uncles and who they married would be quite useful.  Marriages of McAuleys that I am presently researching have taken place with the following families:  Killen, Adair, Gardner, Service (Serviss), Dodds, Hoey, Buchanan and Robinson.
Again, with many thanks for your post and any help would be much appreciated.  All additional information, no matter how small, is of use.  With best wishes, Paul Robinson
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: pablo1 on Tuesday 16 April 19 06:42 BST (UK)
I found this news article to be of interest:
1859--Richard Gardner, Thomas Robinson, Sarah Johnston and Eliza M'Auley
brought up on remand, charged with being a riotous and disorderly mob that
attacked Sgt. Bailey and four policemen on the Crumlin Rd.  The two females
fined 40s;  judgement on the men postponed.
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: pablo1 on Tuesday 16 April 19 23:42 BST (UK)
KiwiRose, it may well be that her newspaper article was more correct than his unless they had two ceremonies.  The Emerald Ancestors website had the following:  Thomas Hugh Hoey married 1879 to Jane McAuley at the Ranmdalstown Old Presbyterian Church.  Also, on a net website I came across the following although I do not know how accurate it is as there are certain problems, namely that Jane McAuley is a daughter of David McAuley, not James.

1.  James McAuley born c. 1787 married Mary McLachlan born c. 1797.  They had with other issue,
2.  Joseph McAuley
?2.  Jane McAuley born 1823; She married in 1845 Hugh Hoey, b. 1822, Glenwherry.  They had with other children,
3.  Sarah Hoey
3.  Agnes Barton Hoey
3.  Jane (Jeannie) Barton Hoey c. 1859-1931 married 1884 William John Huston
4.  Samuel David Huston
4.  Thomas Andrew Huston
*  If the Huston information is correct, then that might tie in with my Dodds-Huston marriage.
-----------------------------
1.  David McAuley born abt. 1822 m. Mary Service (Serviss), b. abt. 1830
2.  Jane McAuley m. Thomas Hugh Hoey
2.  Robert McAuley
2.  David McAuley, Jr.
*  The son Robert I am aware of but not the David, Jr.

Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: KiwiRose on Wednesday 17 April 19 23:42 BST (UK)

Pablo,
Quote
KiwiRose, it may well be that her newspaper article was more correct than his unless they had two ceremonies.  The Emerald Ancestors website had the following:  Thomas Hugh Hoey married 1879 to Jane McAuley at the Ranmdalstown Old Presbyterian Church.  Also, on a net website I came across the following although I do not know how accurate it is as there are certain problems, namely that Jane McAuley is a daughter of David McAuley, not James.

The image (irishgenealogy.ie) of the marriage of Thomas Hugh Hoey to Jane McAuley has the following information:

Marriage: Solemnized at Randalstown, in the Parish of Drummaul, in the Co Antrim.
 5 June 1879. Thomas Hugh Hoey, 21yrs, bachelor, Farmer, Glenwherry. Father: Hugh Hoey, Farmer.
Jane McAuley 21, Spinster, Artlone, Father: David McAuley, farmer.
 Witnesses: Thomas McAuley and Agnes Hoey.


Other sibling Hoey marriages that may be helpful:
1883 Andrew Hoey, Crosshill, Father Hugh. Witnesses: John Macauley, Jane Hoey. 
1872 David Hoey details as above, Witnesses: Houston Story, Isabella Hoey


Thomas Hugh’s father left a will when he died at Crosshill on 15 Feb 1900: The image is on Proni wills site. Thomas Hugh received 12 pounds. Among Hugh’s children named in the will was a Jane Houston who received 10 pounds.

I see that Thomas Hugh’s married sister, Mary Ann Barton, emigrated to the South Island of NZ and visited him in Queensland in 1940. Warwick Daily News 24 May 1940.

Quote
1.  David McAuley born abt. 1822 m. Mary Service (Serviss), b. abt. 1830
2.  Jane McAuley m. Thomas Hugh Hoey
2.  Robert McAuley
2.  David McAuley, Jr.
*  The son Robert I am aware of but not the David, Jr.


Regarding Crosshill’s David McAuley Mary Service.

Marriage of David McAuley and Mary Service 26 April 1855, Glenwhirry,Ant, Ireland

Fathers:  John McAuley and David Service. "Ireland Marriages, 1619-1898," database, FamilySearch

Children born after Civil Registation:
Birth: 5 Jan 1865 AgnesMcAuley Artlone, Duneane, Parents David mcAuley Mary Servif(Service). Farmer.
Birth: 20 July 1867 David McAuley  Artlone, Duneane. Parents: David McAuley, Mary Service. Farmer.
Birth:  18 Aug 1869 Robert. I think you have his details.
Birth: William Patrick birth 20 Nov 1871 Artlone, Duneane, Parents David McAuley, Mary Servif Farmer. Present at birth was a Charlotte Henry, Moneypick?
Images on irishgenealogy.ie.

David McAuley’s 1907 will mentions additional children who must have been born between 1855 and the 1864 registration. An Agnes McClintock (hubby Alexander), Mary Ann Murry (Andrew Murray), Sarah Warden (Samuel) and an Eliza Jane Hoy? (Is her surname Hoey?). Thirty pounds bequeathed to his son Thomas -who had emigrated to Australia. One of the executors was John Service, farmer of Castlegore. (Wife’s relation?)

Sarah McAuley /Samuel Warden’s 1880 marriage witnesses were Jane Hoey and Thomas McAuley.

Regards,
KiwiRose.


Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: pablo1 on Thursday 18 April 19 06:03 BST (UK)
Thanks, KiwiRose.  You supplied a lot of additional information for me to work
with.  It's always much appreciated.--Paul
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: Gilby on Friday 19 April 19 18:15 BST (UK)
I am married to Paul McAuley, whose father is David McAuley. He now owns the farmland at ardymagh road, known locally as the "wee colin" . Paul's father's father was called David McAuley and he was married to Rose Gardener.

Davy inherited the land off his uncle James McAuley. James also had brothers called William, Bryce, Thomas (Tam), a twin that died and don't know his name, and David who is my father in law Davy's father.

Hi Laura,

Thanks for your post.  Do you know roughly when David McAuley married Rose Gardener?  I’m trying to figure out the timescale we’re looking at.

Do you happen to know any of your husband’s ancestors further back?  (e.g. is there a family bible with births/marriages recorded?)

Thanks,
Gilby
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: Gilby on Friday 19 April 19 22:21 BST (UK)
Trying to find McAuleys of Wee Collin…

Larne Times, 6th Jan 1940:
   GLENWHERRY FLUTE BAND.
The Members of the above Band regret to learn of the death of the mother of their highly-esteemed member, David McAuley, and sister of their highly-esteemed treasurer, John McAuley, Glenwherry, and tender to them their sincere sympathy.  S.B. GRAHAM.  W. J. SMYTH.  Ballynashee, Ballyclare.
   THANKS.
Mr. John McAuley and Family wish to return their sincere thanks to all those who sympathised with them in their recent sad bereavement, also those who sent letters of condolence. – Wee Collin, Ballynashee.

Larne Times, 23rd Dec 1943:
   McAULEY – In loving memory of my dear son and our dear brother, John McAuley, who departed this life on 12th December, 1941.  Ever remembered by his loving Father and Family, Wee Collin, Ballynashee.  Time cannot dim the face we loved.
   McAULEY – In loving memory of my dear wife and our dear mother, Margaret McAuley, who departed this life on 24th December, 1939.  Ever remembered by her loving Husband and Family, Wee Collin, Ballynashee.  Although the great beyond divide, Loving memories still abide.


Margaret McAuley of Bog Battery and John McAuley of Ballynashee married in 1919. 

Added: Margaret's father was David McAuley ... probably the one KiwiRose mentions above who was born in Artlone in 1867?
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: KiwiRose on Friday 19 April 19 23:25 BST (UK)
Pablo,

Re: Reply 54.   Hoey

Quote
I see that Thomas Hugh’s married sister, Mary Ann Barton, emigrated to the South Island of NZ and visited him in Queensland in 1940. Warwick Daily News 24 May 1940.

Whoops, I made an error!

Thomas H Hoey’s 84yr old sister, Mrs A Barton, who visited him from NZ (Waitahuna, Otago) in May 1940, was not the Mary Ann Barton mentioned in their father, Hugh Hoey’s, will but Mary Ann's NZ sister (not named in the will) Agnes (nee Hoey) Barton. I need to have more faith in the accuracy of Warwick Daily News reports and newspapers in general! Also to remember that not all children are named in a father’s will.  Agnes Hoey married Robert Barton (b Antrim) in Queensland 1882. Husband Robert Barton’s obituary, in the Taupeka Times 8 May 1918, mentions that his bride (Agnes Hoey) was residing with her uncle in Queensland in 1882 when they married.  Agnes and Thomas Hoey’s parents were Hugh Hoey and Jane McCauley of Crosshill. Was this uncle from the McAuley or Hoey side of the siblings’ family? If he was a McAuley it is likely to be Thomas McCauley of Nanango   - parents David McCauley and Mary Service as were Agnes’ mother, Jane (McAuley) Hoey’s.

This could help fill in some gaps in your family tree although I’m completely lost in the McAuley forest at the moment and I ‘m not sure how, or if, the Crosshill branch links back to Ardymagh.

Regards,

KiwiRose.

Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: pablo1 on Sunday 21 April 19 23:48 BST (UK)
I know how you feel, KiwiRose.  I looked back at the pedigree of the McCauleys that I put up and the dates of birth didn't match up, and there were other gaps involved.  Too many people with similar names to deal with.  With all of that being said, I am pretty sure that the two groupings of McCauleys are related.  I am working on a new theory which I will pass along to you and Gilby to have a look at when I iron out a few problems with it.  HA HA....
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: hallmark on Monday 22 April 19 00:08 BST (UK)


 
Birth: 5 Jan 1865 AgnesMcAuley Artlone, Duneane, Parents David mcAuley Mary Servif(Service). 
David McAuley’s 1907 will mentions additional children who must have been born between 1855 and the 1864 registration. An Agnes McClintock (hubby Alexander), Mary Ann Murry (Andrew Murray), Sarah Warden (Samuel) and an Eliza Jane Hoy? (Is her surname Hoey?). Thirty pounds bequeathed to his son Thomas -who had emigrated to Australia. One of the executors was John Service, farmer of Castlegore. (Wife’s relation?)
 

Regards,
KiwiRose.





Just look for their Marriages....

e.g

Party 1 Name   ALEXANDER MCCLINTOCK
Party 2 Name   AGNES MCCAULEY
Date of Event   08 November 1886
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1886/10847/5960339.pdf


then census, children etc

Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: Gilby on Monday 22 April 19 17:38 BST (UK)
Hi Paul,

Before you post your current thinking I went back to go through your previous McCauley pedigree on page 3…

Here is the way I see this family coming together.  What are your opinions KiwiRose and Gilby?
 
I think I agree with pretty much everything apart from David McAuley of Crosshill was not a brother of James and Robert of Ballynashee.  David’s father was John McAuley of Crosshill (c1800-1880) – his will on the PRONI site.

3.  Ellen McIlwaine McCauley m. 1890 David Bonnar w/issue.
 
At the time of this marriage Ellen’s address is recorded as “Collin” – presumably “Wee Collin” rather than nearby “Big Collin”.

Larne Times, 10th Apr 1952:
BONNAR - March 28, 1952, at her residence, Shoptown, Glenwherry, Ellen M., widow of David Bonnar.  Interred in Glenwherry March 30, 1952. -- Deeply regretted by her sorrowing Daughters at home and abroad.

2.  Robert McCauley, b. 1823 m. Elizabeth Service, dau of John Service and Sarah Gardner
 
Where did you get the information about Elizabeth Service’s parents?

3.  John McCauley (1858-1903), emigrated to Livingston County in 1902;  he came with Mary
     McCauley, but on the ship's manifest she was listed as being single, while he was listed as being married.  She was also much younger than he.  However, I believe one of their children was

4.  John Dodds McCauley (29 Feb. 1888 - 1962) ;  buried Lakeview Cemetery, Livingston Co., NY;     Because of his early birthdate, I don't think that Mary could have been his mother.
 
John Macauley married Martha Dodds at Glenwherry Presbyterian in 1883.
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: Gilby on Monday 22 April 19 17:47 BST (UK)
Picking up on John Macauley and Martha Dobbs.  Paul, you mention possible children:
Quote
John Dodds McCauley (29 Feb. 1888 - 1962) ;  buried Lakeview Cemetery, Livingston Co., NY

Edward McCauley b. abt. 1893, blacksmith;  Edward m. in 1928 Margaret Robinson, dau. of
     Robert Robinson and Mary Smiley.

John born 19th Feb 1888:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1888/02530/1937280.pdf

I can’t make out the name of the street – it looks like Luir?

I also can’t find Edward’s birth.  Is it possible John and Martha went to live in Scotland before emigrating to America?  (There was mention of Dunbarton in an earlier post.)
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Monday 22 April 19 17:58 BST (UK)


I can’t make out the name of the street – it looks like Luir?


I think it says 10 Suir Street.

KG
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: Gilby on Monday 22 April 19 18:09 BST (UK)
Ah yes, I think you're right.  Thanks
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: Gilby on Monday 22 April 19 18:19 BST (UK)

Gilby,

The Queensland historical BDM site has the deaths of Thomas and Margaret (Clarke) McAuley which mentions parents’ names.

1934   B25431   Thomas   McCauley   Parents: David McAuley    Mary Service

1945   C2160   Margaret   McCanley (!)  Parents: Francis Clarke    Janet Bonar

Their 1883 Queensland marriage only names the bride and groom. One would have to order a copy of the certificate for further information.

Regards,
KiwiRose

Thanks KiwiRose.

I looked up the marriage of Francis Clarke to Janet Bonar – apologies of this has been mentioned before:

12 Jun 1861
Glenwherry Presbyterian
Francis Clarke, Craigs Hill, farmer, B, son of James Clarke.
Jenny Bonner, Greennagallough, S, daughter of David Bonner.
Witnesses John Law and John Bonner.
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: pablo1 on Tuesday 23 April 19 23:29 BST (UK)
John Service of Carlea, died 1868, farmer; probate granted to Eliza M'Auley, wife of Robert M'Auley of Ballynashee, Ballyclare, his daughter and next of kin.  See PRON Will Calendar

Another researcher sent me the following:  Robert McCauley m. Elizabeth Service (c. 1824-1909), daughter of John Service and Sarah Gardner of Carnlea, Co. Antrim.  Elizabeth's brothers were John Service, Samuel Service , George Service and David Service.  David b. abt. 1851 and John about 1855.  John, Sam and George emigrated to the U.S. and at first settled in the Groveland and Geneseo areas of Livingston Co., NY along with the McCauley family who did the same.  Sam later moved west according to the man researching this family.
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: Gilby on Wednesday 24 April 19 22:36 BST (UK)
KiwiRose, it may well be that her newspaper article was more correct than his unless they had two ceremonies.  The Emerald Ancestors website had the following:  Thomas Hugh Hoey married 1879 to Jane McAuley at the Ranmdalstown Old Presbyterian Church.  Also, on a net website I came across the following although I do not know how accurate it is as there are certain problems, namely that Jane McAuley is a daughter of David McAuley, not James.

1.  James McAuley born c. 1787 married Mary McLachlan born c. 1797.  They had with other issue,
2.  Joseph McAuley
?2.  Jane McAuley born 1823; She married in 1845 Hugh Hoey, b. 1822, Glenwherry.  They had with other children,
3.  Sarah Hoey
3.  Agnes Barton Hoey
3.  Jane (Jeannie) Barton Hoey c. 1859-1931 married 1884 William John Huston
4.  Samuel David Huston
4.  Thomas Andrew Huston

Hugh Hoey’s wife was called Jane and she died in 1886 aged 63.  The birth of Samuel Hoey in 1866 shows his parents Hugh Hoey and Jane McAuley.  However, I cannot the 1845 marriage mentioned above … have you had any luck on that front?

According to the valuation books, Hugh Hoey took over his property in Crosshill from David McCullagh.  On the previous page “McCullagh” has been corrected to “McCauley”.  Therefore, I think Hugh’s wife Jane (c1823-1886) was the “daughter Jane Hoy” mentioned in the will of John McAuley of Crosshill.

This means Thomas Hugh Hoey and Jane McAuley who married in 1879 were first cousins.
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: pablo1 on Thursday 25 April 19 02:20 BST (UK)
This is the only additional information that I have come across:
John McCauley of Crosshill, son of John McCauley, m. Sarah J. Barton of Kearney Hill, dau of James Barton, on Dec. 8, 1893.

And from the Barton N.Z database:

1.  Agnes Hoey b. 1840, Crosshill, m. Robert Clark Barton (1857-1918) of Carney Hill. with issue born in New Zealand:
2.  Molly Barton (1887-1895)
2.  Thomas Hugh Barton (1888-1976), b. Waitahuna, Otago; m. Lydia Rose (1885-1972)
3.  Robert John Barton (1918-2002) m. Isobel Lyall Coombes (1922-2007)
2.  Robert John Barton (1891-1941) m. Alexandrina Sutherland; m. Elizabeth Macfarlane
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: Gilby on Saturday 27 April 19 12:45 BST (UK)
I thought I’d go back and work through the list of relatives who attended Sarah Fleck (née McCauley’s) funeral in 1911 (posted on page 3).  It helps a lot that it was a census year!

David Fleck (husband) = (c1843-1925)
John Fleck, Greenhill = (c1866-) married (1894) Jane McCullough
James Fleck, Cross = (1871-)
George Fleck = (1877-)
Robert Fleck = (1879-)
WIlliam Fleck, Bushmills (sons) = (c1882-)

Sons-in-law
James Farquhar, Clattery Knowes = married (1895) Mary Ann Fleck (1869-)
William Elder, Kells = married (1904) Esther Elder (1875-1911)

Cousin
George McCauley, Ardymagh = (c1857-1932) son of Robert McAuley and Eliza Service

Grandsons
David Fleck, Greenhill = (1896-) son of John Fleck and Jane McCullough
David Farquhar, Clattery Knowes = (1898-) son of James A. Farquhar and Mary Ann Fleck

Brothers-in-law
Samuel Brown, Bog Battery = married (1858) to Anne McAuley
George Fleck, Greenhill = married (1864) to Rachel McVea
John Fleck, Clougher = married (1865) to Sarah Wilson

Nephews
William Brown, Bog Battery = (1870-) son of Samuel Brown and Anne McAuley
Samuel Brown do. = (1868-) son of Samuel Brown and Anne McAuley
James Fleck, Ballynulto = (1864-) son of George Fleck and Rachel McVea
George Fleck, Greenhill = (1865-) son of George Fleck and Rachel McVea
William Fleck, Ballynulto = (1878-) son of George Fleck and Rachel McVea
Robert Fleck, Greenhill = (1884-) son of Robert Fleck and Margaret Esler
John Fleck, do. = (1890-) son of Robert Fleck and Margaret Esler
George Fleck, Cross = (1866-) son of John Fleck and Sarah Wilson
James Fleck, Ballygelly = (1870-) son of John Fleck and Sarah Wilson
William Fleck, Cloughan = (1868-) son of John Fleck and Sarah Wilson
James Carson, Lisnahilt = (1869-) son of John Carson and Jane Fleck
Andrew Hoey, Crosshill = (c1863-) son of Hugh Hoey and Jane McAuley
Samuel Hoey, do. = (1866-) son of Hugh Hoey and Jane McAuley
George Fleck, Black Top =(1874-) son of William Fleck and Eliza Jane Carson
David McCauley, Bog Battery = (1867-) son of David McAuley and Mary Service
Robert McCauley, Crosshill = (1869-) son of David McAuley and Mary Service
Hugh Rea, do. = (1870-) son of David Rea and Mary McAuley
Thomas Rea, do. = (1867-) son of David Rea and Mary McAuley

Now I need to work on the other miscellaneous relatives named…
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: KiwiRose on Tuesday 30 April 19 01:45 BST (UK)
Pablo,

I have been looking for the connections between the Ardymagh, Ballynashee and Crosshill, Glenwhirry McAuley family (and variants) branches.

1813 Ballyeaston Census:
Only two McAuley families.
•   John 39yrs and Jane with 5 young chn in Lower Glenwhirry
•   Robert 52yrs and Jennet with older chn plus a 4yr old John in Ballyboley.
Crosshill was not included.
Ballynashee had no McAuley’s
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No pre 1858 likely McAuley Wills.
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Griffiths Valuation 1861/62 (askaboutireland)
•   Ballynashee, Rashee Parish:
James and a John McCawley as well as a Martha McCawley . Martha was a tenant of Landlord, John McCawley.

An Ardymagh, Ballynashee James McAuley left a will in 1874.
A spinster, 77yrs (b. c 1815)housekeeper, Martha McAuley of Ballynashee died 26 Jan 1892. Present at death- John McAuley, nephew, Ballynashee.
Familysearch’s  Ireland Births & Baptisms 1620 – 1881 has the christening of a Martha McAuley on 23 June 1815. Father: John McAuley.

Could this Martha be one and the same?

•   Crosshill, Glenwhirry Parish:
No McAuley’s.

Whilst searching for the further records for the above Ballynashee Martha McAuley I came upon a number of other Martha McAuley deaths:
•   Martha McAuley, 21 March 1892 Glenhead ,Glenwhirry.married, 28yrs, wife of John McAuley, labourer, Ballynashee, John Dodds, father, present at death. Glenhead.

•   Martha Houston McAuley, 2 Feb 1887, Glenhead, Glenwhirry, 1yr child of John McAuley, farmer Glenhead.

•   Martha McAuley 21 May 1885. 40 yrs, wife of John McAuley, farmer, Crosshill, Glenwhirry.



Details of the Crosshill Martha (d 1885) and her family follow;

Death: Crosshill, Glenwhirry, 21 May 1885, aged 40yrs, Martha McAuley wife of John McAuley, farmer of Crosshill.
Husband’s death below:
Death: Crosshill, Glenwhirry on 14 Aug 1920. Widower, John McAuley. 80yrs, farmer. Present at death – Elizabeth McAuley (probably daughter) Crosshill.

Marriage of this couple:
15 Oct 1868, Glenwherry, John McCaulay married Martha Ewings. Fathers: John McCaulay, Hugh Ewings. (Familysearch’s  Ireland Marriages 1619 – 1898) No image.

All children found born to John and Martha at Crosshill. All images available on irishgenealogy.ie.
                     
                     
                     
                     
                     
David 6 Aug 1869
Not captured Male 2 Oct 1870
Not captured Male 28 June 1872
Agnes 13 Feb 1874
Elizabeth 1 Dec 1875
Agnes 31 March 1878 (Can’t find a death for the 1874 Agnes)
Sarah Jane 30 Mar 1880
Martha 15 May 1882
Andrew 17 May 1884  Now correct.
                     
                     

John and his 5 younger chn appear with him in Crosshill in the 1901 Census.
1911 Census John is only with 2 unmarried daughters, Martha and Elizabeth.

 The only marriages I could find amongst the Crosshill McAuley/ Ewing children were:

Sarah Jane married Alex(ander) Dodds (of Glenhead) on  17 March 1903 or 05? Fathers: John McAuley, John Dodds. Witnesses: John Boyd, Martha McAuley. (Image is hard to read.)This couple with 5 chn are in the 1911 Census.
Andrew married Agnes Kell of Tully on 30 March 1905. Fathers: John McAuley, Robert Kells. Witnesses: James Kell, Sarah J McAuley. Did Sarah J forget her married name? (Andrew not found in the  1911 Census)
Images of these marriages are on irishgeanealogy.ie.

Maybe some of the missing McAuley/Ewing chn had emigrated or died before the 1911 Census.


Would the Crosshill John McAuley d 1920 be the son of the Crosshill John McAuley d 1880 who left a legacy to his two sons, David of Artlone, and John?

I hope I haven’t repeated information already known or muddied the McAuley Crosshill/ Ballynashee branches further. I got carried away as I hadn’t come across a Ewing/s connection before!

Regards,
KiwiRose.

Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: KiwiRose on Tuesday 30 April 19 03:50 BST (UK)
Wrong year for Andrew McAuley's birth. It should be 17 May 1884 not 1888.  I think I've managed to correct the year.

KiwiRose
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: Gilby on Wednesday 01 May 19 22:30 BST (UK)
I know this is a bit of a sideline, but I got quite engrossed in trying to figure out who all the relatives were in the funeral notice for Sarah Fleck née McAuley.  Here are the rest…

James Fleck, sen., Ballynulto = [David’s cousin??]  Born c1862, he was a son of John Fleck and Jane McCullough who married in 1852.  John’s father was James Fleck who *might* also have been the father of George Fleck of Greenhill.  William Fleck of Ballynulto who married Sarah McAuley in 1850 was also the son of a James Fleck.

James Fleck, Burnside = [??]  There are a few Burnsides in County Antrim, including one in Ballyligpatrick which is looking like the epicentre of the Fleck family (there’s even a place called Fleckstown there).  Three James Fleck were in Ballyligpatrick in 1911.  Two were son and father: James born in Killygore in 1887, son of James Fleck and Mary Kernohan who married in 1877.  James senior was the son of a John Fleck.  The third James Fleck was born in 1877 and married Mary McCrory – he was a son of Samuel Fleck and Mary Jane Turtle who married in 1873.  Samuel was the son of a John Fleck.

John Fleck, Woodvale = [??]  Woodvale was also a farm in Ballyligpatrick townland, and the only adult John Fleck there in 1911 was born 1868, son of William Fleck and Jane McAuley who married in 1866 (not to be confused with William Fleck and Sarah McAuley who married in 1850).  I’m not sure if the connection here is via the Flecks or McAuleys.  In 1894 John Fleck married Agnes Thoburn Adams, great granddaughter of Joseph Thoburn of Roughfort, near Templepatrick (another family I’m interested in).

Robert Fleck, Blackstown = [??]  Blackstown is the name of another farm in Ballyligpatrick townland.  There were two Robert Flecks there in 1911; aged 31 and 33.  The younger Robert was a son of James Fleck and Mary Kernohan (see above).  The other Robert was the younger brother of William James Fleck mentioned below.

W. J. Fleck, Ahoghill = [??]  William James Fleck, born in 1875, son of Samuel Fleck (c1804-1888) and Nancy Turtle (c1839-1895) of Ballyligpatrick who married in 1861 (not to be confused with Samuel Fleck and Mary Jane Turtle who married in 1873).  Samuel Fleck’s father was John Fleck.  Nancy’s sister Hannah was married to Robert Montgomery of Little Ballymena (Ballynure) and their daughter Jane Patterson Montgomery married William Fleck in 1905.  William was a son of John Fleck and Sarah Wilson.

David McCauley, Crosshill = [Sarah’s great nephew]  Born 1900, so he was only 10 at the time of Sarah’s funeral – son of Robert McAuley and Esther Houston.

David McClintock, do. = [Sarah’s great nephew]  Born 1890, he was a son of Alexander McClintock and Agnes McAuley, daughter of David McAuley and Mary Service.

Thomas McClintock, Misty Burn = [Sarah’s great nephew]  Born 1887, he was another son of Alexander McClintock and Agnes McAuley, daughter of David McAuley and Mary Service.

Houston Hoey, do. = [Sarah’s great nephew]  Born 1895, he was a son of Andrew Hoey and Eliza Marshall.  (The Hoey farm still seems to be owned by someone called Huston Hoey.)

William McConnell, Broad Lea = [husband of David’s niece]  Born c1863, he married Jane Fleck in 1891.  She was a daughter of William Fleck and Eliza Jane Carson.

Samuel Barr, Crumkill = [husband of David’s niece]  Born c1857, he married Esther Fleck in 1885.  She was also a daughter of William Fleck and Eliza Jane Carson.

John Speers, Maxwellswalls = [husband of David’s niece]  Born c1872, he married Agnes Fleck in 1900.  She was another daughter of William Fleck and Eliza Jane Carson.

James McKinney, Ballymena = [husband of David’s niece]  Born c1874, he married Jane Fleck in 1898.  She was a daughter of George Fleck and Rachel McVea.

Arthur Wylie, Greenhill = [husband of David’s niece]  Born c1868, he married Isabella Fleck in 1910.  She was another daughter of George Fleck and Rachel McVea.

John Gray, Roughan = [husband of David’s niece]  Born c1873, he married Agnes McCullough Fleck in 1897.  She was a daughter of John Fleck and Sarah Wilson.

James Owens, Ballynulto = [husband of David’s niece]  Born 1877, he married Agnes Fleck in 1900.  She was a daughter of Robert Fleck and Margaret Esler.

James Barton, Kerney Hill = [husband of Sarah’s niece]  Born c1849, he married Mary Anne Hoey in 1870.  She was a daughter of Hugh Hoey and Jane McAuley.  Their daughter Sarah Jane Hoey married her 1st cousin 1x removed, John McAuley, in 1893.
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: pablo1 on Tuesday 07 May 19 06:35 BST (UK)
 John McCauley (1858-1903), emigrated to Livingston County in 1902;  he came with Mary
  McCauley, but on the ship's manifest she was listed as being single, while he was listed as being married.  She was also much younger than he.  Newspaper article said he left a widow and three children.  But who was this John's father?  I don't believe that John Dodds McCauley who also immigrated was his son as his name appears in the Irish census.  ???
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: pablo1 on Wednesday 08 May 19 04:22 BST (UK)
Big correction: 
From Ellis Island website
John McAuley aged 38
Mary McAuley, aged 28, wife
John McAuley, aged 11, child
Tom Robinson, aged 19
Ship Oceanic sailing from Liverpool on April 16, 1902.
Prior to that John, Mary and John, Jr. may have been living in Dumbarton, Scotland.
Destination:  Groveland, Livingston County, New York.
Passage paid by uncle, but also mentioned ?J. McAuley of Groveland, brother?  First initial of name hard to read.
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: KiwiRose on Friday 10 May 19 04:35 BST (UK)
Pablo,

Quote
Big correction:
From Ellis Island website
John McAuley aged 38
Mary McAuley, aged 28, wife
John McAuley, aged 11, child
Tom Robinson, aged 19
Ship Oceanic sailing from Liverpool on April 16, 1902.
Prior to that John, Mary and John, Jr. may have been living in Dumbarton, Scotland.
Destination:  Groveland, Livingston County, New York.
Passage paid by uncle, but also mentioned ?J. McAuley of Groveland, brother?  First initial of name hard to read.

There are at least two John McAuley’s in Ardymagh in 1883. One is the son of James, the other of Robert. (Brothers?)

•   Marriage of John Macauley and Margaret Graham:

Marriage: 7 Nov 1883. John Macauley, full age, Bachelor, farmer, Ardimagh to Margaret Graham, full, spinster, Ardimagh. Parents: James McCauley, William Graham, both farmers. Witnesses: William Graham, Ellen Macauley. This couple are in the 1901 and 1911 Census in Ballynashee. They had 15 chn, all still living, born to them according to the 1911 Census. The only chn not listed their household in 1911 were William and James.
The chn in birth order are:

William,b Dec 1883, Ellen 85, James 86, John 87, Jane 90, Edward 91, Francis 92, Robert 94, Elizabeth M 96, Margaret 97, Rachel 99, Catherine 1900, Agnes 01 , David 03, Thomas 05.

The other John is:

•   Marriage of John McAuley to Martha Dodds.
John McAuley, farmer of Ardimagh married in Glenwherry on Oct 17 1883, to Martha Dodds, Glenhead. Fathers:  Robert McAuley, farmer and John Dodds, carpenter. Witnesses: Thomas Dodds, Elizabeth McAuley. Martha died of TB in 1892 at the Glenhead home of her father, John Dodds.

The only McAuley/Dobbs births  (and variants) in Co. Antrim that  I could find was same John born 18 Feb 1888 in 10 Suir St, Belfast that Gilby found. Also found was the death of 1yr old Martha Houston MacAuley on 2 Feb 1887 who was the daughter of John McAuley, a farmer of Glenhead, Glenwhirry. Her birth has not been found in Co. Antrim.  I wonder how many John McAuley’s were there in Glenhead.

When John and Martha married one of their witnesses was Elizabeth McAuley, who was likely to be John’s sister.
Below is probably the marriage witness Elizabeth McAuley:
Marriage: 13 Jan 1886, Elizabeth Macauley, full, spinster of Ardimagh to James Buchanan, full, Bachelor, shoemaker, Ballyboley. Fathers: Robert Macauley and Hugh Buchanan, both farmers. Witnesses: John Buchanan, Mary Ann McAuley. (I can’t think who this Mary Ann McAuley could be at the moment. Maybe she’s a sister/ sister-in-law.)

I recall that there were Antrim William Buchanan’s in Livingston, NY.


I am making a number of presumptions but below are some thoughts swirling around in my head regarding the 1902 immigrant John McAuley:

Did John McAuley (Son of Robert) remarry after the Glenhead death of his first wife Martha (Dodds) in 1892 to a Mary, maybe in Dumbarton, Scotland? Were Martha and John living in Scotland after their marriage and Martha only returned to her parental home when she needed family support and/or became unwell from TB and needed nursing care?  A census of Scotland may be helpful.

When they emigrated to Livingston, NY, John and wife, Mary, had a nephew, Tom Robinson, with them which is interesting as Tom was probably the grandson of Robert McAuley. (See the 1901 Census Ballynashee. Tom is aged 19yrs.) Uncle John McAuley was probably a brother of Tom’s mother. Tom’s parents appear to be William and Sarah (McAuley) Robinson.

If John McAuley’s 11 year old son John’s age is correct then he would have been born c 1891 before John’s first wife, Martha, died in March 1892. If he was not the Feb 1888 Suir St, Belfast born John then he must have been born outside Co. Antrim.

On the arrival information into NY in 1902 John was accompanied by wife, son and nephew yet on his Sept 1903 death the newspaper article stated that he left a wife and three chn. Did Mary give birth to twins after they arrived in New York? Maybe John had older chn born early in his first marriage. Had they already emigrated or else chosen to remain in Scotland/Ireland?

What became of the widowed Mary and son John after John’s Sept 1903 death in Livingston?
A search of the Livingston area in the 1910 US Census didn’t find the deceased John McAuley’s other two chn and widow, Mary. Had Mary remarried by then or did she return to Scotland/Ireland?

Could this be the son John in 1910 US Census?
I spotted a cousin John D MacCauley b c1888 who emigrated in 1902 in Geneseo, Livingston living with Robert Mccauley, 29yrs, b New York, wife Mabel.


It is likely that we may never know answers to all the above questions but some could provide signposts.  It may even point to a third Ardymagh John whose father was a brother to James and Robert McAuley and cousin to the 1902 immigrant, John!!

Kind regards,

KiwiRose.


Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: pablo1 on Saturday 11 May 19 09:46 BST (UK)
KiwiRose, there are so many John McCauleys to deal with that my head becomes muddled just thinking about it.  I can only answer two of your questions:  Tom Robinson was my grandfather's brother, so yes, he was the son of William Robinson and Sarah Jane McCauley.  He died in 1950 and his will mentioned my grandfather and some of his relatives back in Co. Antrim.  The Elizabeth McCauley that you mentioned who married James Buchanan was one of Sarah Jane's sisters.   Some of James' brothers also emigrated, so there are a large number of Buchanans still living in that area.  Another McCauley, Joseph Queery McCauley, also emigrated, but I have no idea who he was.  Pretty nice muddle of a mess to attempt to unmuddle.
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: KiwiRose on Saturday 11 May 19 11:07 BST (UK)
Pablo,

Quote
I am making a number of presumptions but below are some thoughts swirling around in my head regarding the 1902 immigrant John McAuley:

Did John McAuley (Son of Robert) remarry after the Glenhead death of his first wife Martha (Dodds) in 1892 to a Mary, maybe in Dumbarton, Scotland?

Your research is so extensive that you no doubt already have knowledge of the marriage below but I will plough on and possibly add to the pile that you need to untangle! Oh dear!

After my last post I began thinking about a marriage I came upon when looking for a Co. Antrim marriage of a John McAuley to a Mary from 1892 – 1900 but had dismissed it. However it now seems to have possibilities.

Marriage: 22 Nov, 1898 at Kirkinriola.  John McCauley, full age, widower, labourer, Bally(can’t make out the rest) to Mary Jane Boville, full age, spinster of Ballyboley. Fathers: Robt McCauley and Joseph Boville, both farmers. Witnesses: Joseph R McAuley, Eliza Jane Murphy.

This couple seem to be living in Kilwaughter in the 1901 Census.
John’s age is 45yrs(b c1856), Mary Jane 27yrs(b c1874), son John 13yrs(b.c1888). All Presbyterians, born in Co Antrim.
I couldn’t find them in 1911 Census.

It may be a long shot but maybe they are the trio who arrived in Livingston, NY in 1902 with Tom Robinson?

Kind regards,
KiwiRose.

Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: pablo1 on Monday 13 May 19 06:12 BST (UK)
KiwiRose, as I had been previously confusing two John McCauleys and their wives, your logic seems most compelling.  Their is no doubt that John, Jr. is the son of Martha Dodds and not Mary.
John, Jr. is buried in Lakeview Cemetery, New York.  His grave doesn't have his middle name, but
it can be gleamed from other newspaper articles.

John Dodds McAuley (Feb. 19, 1888-1962);  probate of his estate was granted to Joseph Q. Buchanan, his cousin.  Other cousins mentioned were Mrs Elizabeth Fraser (newspaper had wrong spelling), Mrs Martha Cullen and John McConnell.  Joseph was living in Groveland and the others in Mt. Morris. 

I was aware of a Boviille marriage but never gave it much thought.  Now I will look into it more deeply.  With thanks, Paul
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: Gilby on Sunday 19 May 19 13:24 BST (UK)
Hi Both,

I’m not familiar with the Ellis Island site but I guess it is based on records of people who arrived in New York?  If so, the ship’s manifest on Findmypast backs up what you posted on the 8th May, apart from the way it describes them as Scotch, but I guess that may be just because that’s where they were living at the time…?

Ticket 27574
John McAuley – Farmer – 38 – Scotch
Mary McAuley – Wife – 28 – Scotch
John McAuley – Child – 11 – Scotch

Ticked 27578
Thomas Robinson – Mechanic – 19 – Scotch

I’m pretty convinced that the Martha Houston McAuley who died at Glenhead in 1887 was a daughter of John and Martha. 

I also like the marriage of John (widower) to Mary Jane Boville in 1898 found by KiwiRose.  My reading of John’s address is Ballymullock, which is moving in the right direction for his location in the 1901 census (Antiville).

Gilby
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: Gilby on Sunday 19 May 19 14:04 BST (UK)
Found this regarding one of David McAuley’s sons:

Larne Times, 18th Mar 1905:
McAULEY – Wanted information concerning John McAuley, who worked at gold diggings seven years ago.  His address was Koolgardie, Perth, W.A.  Any information concerning him will be thankfully received by his father, David McAuley, Crosshill, Glenwherry, C.A.I. Australian papers please copy.

I haven’t found anything else about him.
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: Gilby on Sunday 19 May 19 18:50 BST (UK)
Rootsireland has miss-transcribed Ardymagh in the Glenwherry Presbyterian records as “Aldorough” (as evidenced by the marriage of James McAuley and Elenor Brice in 1846, which I have checked on GRO).  To be fair the prevailing spelling at the time seems to have been “Ardimough”.

So to keep myself right as much as anything I have listed the “Aldorough” (aka Ardymagh) marriages below:

7th Jan 1846.  James McAuley, [Ardymagh], farmer, 24, son of John.  Eleanor Killen, Glore [Glensie in GRO record], 21, daughter of William.  Witnesses Edward Killen and David McAuley.

19th Sep 1849.  Hugh Gault Hoy, Ballynashee, labourer, 23, son of Daniel.  Agnes Strain, [Ardymagh], 21, daughter of Robert.  Witnesses William McConnell and William Gilmore.

11th Jun 1850.  William Beggs, [Ardymagh], farmer, 21, son of George.  Jane Mahood, Craigs, 22, daughter of Samuel.  Witnesses William H. Taggart and Francis Graham.

11th Jul 1850.  William Fleck, Ballynulto, saddler, 26, son of James Fleck.  Sarah McAuley, [Ardymagh], 23, daughter of John McAuley.  Witnesses James McAuley and Robert McNabney.

26th Jun 1851.  James Gardner, [Ardymagh], labourer, 24, son of Andrew.  Margaret McIlroy, Ballyclare, 22, daughter of Samuel.  Witnesses Patrick Haveron and Matthew Gray.

11th Nov 1853.  William Graham, [Ardymagh], farmer, FA, son of James.  Elizabeth Witherhead, Brae, FA, daughter of George.  Witnesses William Graham and Robert Witherhead. 

10th Nov 1854.  William Black, Shoptown, labourer, FA, son of James.  Jane Gardner, [Ardymagh], FA, daughter of John.  Witnesses William Fleck and John Gardner.

4th Dec 1854.  Gawn Graham, [Ardymagh], farmer, FA, son of James.  Agnes Clark, Crosshill, FA, daughter of James.  Witnesses John Havlin and Robert McAuley.

3rd Dec 1858.  Moses Martin, Bruslee, labourer, FA, son of Daniel.  Margaret Mills, [Ardymagh], FA, daughter of David.  Witnesses John McConnell and Robert Clark.

(All from Glenwherry Presbyterian Church.  Rev. J. Montgomery.)
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: pablo1 on Wednesday 22 May 19 09:08 BST (UK)
Crosshill
John McCauley of Cross Hill, son of John McCauley, m. 1893 to Sarah J. Barton, dau of James Barton of Kerney (sp.?) Hill.  Witnesses were John Fleck and Lizzie Jane Brown.
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: Gilby on Thursday 23 May 19 21:30 BST (UK)
This is how I currently have the family of John McAuley and Jane Gardner of Lower Glenwherry / Ardymagh:

John McAULEY (c1771-1870) m. Jane GARDNER (c1777-1870)
----- David McAULEY (c1804-?)
----- Elizabeth McAULEY (c1805-?)
----- Jane McAULEY (c1808-?)
----- James McAULEY (c1809-1874) m. Ellen Brice KILLEN (c1820-1889)
---------- John McAULEY (c1849-?) m. Margaret GRAHAM
---------- Sarah Wilson McAULEY (c1854-?) m. William ADAIR
---------- Jane McAULEY (c1856-?) m. Andrew GARDNER
---------- James McAULEY (c1858-1948) m. Jane CLARKE
---------- Edward Brice Killen McAULEY (c1862-) m. Annie MARTIN
---------- Ellen McIlwaine McAULEY (1866-1952) m. David BONNAR
----- Robert McAULEY (c1823-1912) m. Eliza SERVICE (c1827-?)
---------- David McAULEY (c1849-?) m1. Agnes GARDNER, m2. Mary CAMPBELL
---------- Sarah Jane McAULEY (c1854-?) m. William ROBINSON
---------- George McAULEY (c1857-1932) m. Mary Agnes BLAIR
---------- John McAULEY (c1858-1903) m1. Martha DODDS, m2. Mary Jane BOVILLE
---------- Jenny McAULEY (c1860-?) m. William DODDS
---------- Elizabeth McAULEY (c1865-?) m. James BUCHANAN

Let me know if I’ve got any mistakes or omissions.
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: Gilby on Thursday 23 May 19 21:41 BST (UK)
I did have John McAuley of Crosshill as another son of John McAuley and Jane Gardner.  According to Sarah Fleck’s funeral notice she was a cousin of George McAuley.  Since all the other relations mentioned in that article checked out, I’m inclined to think it was accurate, and that it meant they were first cousins.

However, since John does not appear in the Ballyeaston church census of 1813 (when he would have been about 12 or 13) I have taken him out.  It remains possible he was away working as a farmhand somewhere else.

John McAULEY (c1800-1880) m. Mary Ann _____ (c1800-1884)
----- Jane McAULEY (c1823-1886) m. Hugh HOEY
----- David McAULEY (c1825-1907) m. Mary SERVICE
----- Mary McAULEY (c1829-1888) m. David REA
----- Elizabeth McAULEY (c1832-?) m. Thomas McCONNELL
----- Anne McCAULEY (c1834-?) m. Samuel BROWN
----- John McAULEY (c1840-?) m. Martha EWINGS
----- Sarah McAULEY (c1843-1911) m. David FLECK
----- Nancy McAULEY m. John GILMORE
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: pablo1 on Friday 24 May 19 10:38 BST (UK)
Gilby, in regards to the John McCauley of Koolgardie, I found at least two living in that area which is sometimes spelled Coolgardie or Kalgoorlie:
A John McCauley died in 1913 and was buried in the Catholic Cemetery.  The Catholic burial might eliminate him.

The other was a John Vincent McCauley who died on 22 June 1914 leaving the following children:  Charles, Dorothy, Violet and John Vincent McCauley, Jr.  In 1935, aged 30, a John Vincent McCauley was found guilty of stealing mail and sentenced to three years in prison.  In 1944 he witnesses the marriage of Hazel Burnett to David Patrick Scott.  This John Vincent M., Jr. died March 30, 1947 in Fremantle Hospital.

His name of John Vincent was interesting because my grandparents had a son with the same name.  However, for some reason my uncle's name was later changed to Joseph. 

George Macaulay Robinson and Nora Higgins had the following children with names being of interest:
1.  George Leonard Robinson--perhaps named after George McAuley.  Leonard??
2.  William Robert Robinson--probably named after his grandfather, William Robinson, and his great grandfather, Robert McAuley
3.  Thomas Francis Robinson--probably named after his uncle, Thomas Robinson;  Could the Francis have come from the Clarke family?
4.  John Vincent Robinson, as mentioned above
5.  Paul Andrew Robinson-the name of Paul may have come from his mother's side, but the name of Andrew probably from his father's brother living in Ballyalbanagh.


Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: Gilby on Saturday 25 May 19 10:42 BST (UK)
Hi Paul,

Where did you get the information about John Vincent McCauley who died in 1914?

Ta,
Gilby


Edit: I assume this is John Vincent McAuley…

(Victoria) The Evening Echo, 24th June 1914:
OBITUARY.  The news was received in Ballarat yesterday of the death at Boulder City (W.A.) of Mr John McCauley, a native of Ballarat.  The deceased, who was a miner, was attached by pneumonia, and succumbed after a few days’ illness.  He leaves a widow and four children to mourn their loss.  The late Mr. McCauley, who was much respected, was a brother to Mr Frank McCauley, formerly president of the A.M.A. and the Trades’ Hall Council.

Unfortunately I think that rules him out from being David’s son?
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: Gilby on Saturday 25 May 19 11:44 BST (UK)
Also found this while I was looking at the newspapers…

Warwick Daily News (Queensland, Australia), 14th Jun 1929:
GOLDEN WEDDING
Mr. and Mrs. T. H. Hoey, Upper Forest Springs, Allora, celebrated the 50th anniversary of their marriage on Wednesday, 5th instant, the occasion being marked by a family gathering and invited guests.  Mr. and Mrs. Hoey have resided in the Upper Forest Springs district for 43 [or 48] years ... Mr. Hadden said that it was fitting he should preside on such an occasion, as he was born under the same star as that of their guests, and came from the same part of the homeland as they did ... Mr. Hoey took his hearers back to the days of his youth in Glenwherry, County Antrim, Ireland, and mentioned that they were married on his 21st birthday, in 1879, and being inspired by brighter prospects in Australia they decided shortly after their marriage to immigrate to Queensland and, after a long and arduous voyage, they landed in Rockhampton, on July 29, 1880 ... Mr. Hoey claimed that it was unique that there was present Mr. T. McCaully, of Nanango, who had carried out the duties of best man on his wedding day in old Ireland, 50 years ago.

Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: Gilby on Saturday 25 May 19 16:12 BST (UK)
Before I forget it all, I wanted to post some notes on the Fleck family…

Belfast Morning News, 3rd Feb 1881:
BANKRUPTS ... George Fleck, sen., formerly of Greenhill, now of Cloughan, in the County of Antrim, farmer.

George FLECK of Greenhill (c1808-1892) and unknown wife…
----- James FLECK (c1836-1911) m1. (1861) Esther CARSON, m2. (1897) Mary LINTON
----- John FLECK (c1839-aft. 1918) m. (1865) Sarah WILSON
----- George FLECK (c1841-1926) m. (1864) Rachel McVEA
----- William FLECK (c1842-1908) m1. (1863) Eliza Jane CARSON, m2. (1888) Agnes HERON
----- David FLECK (c1843-1925) m. (1865) Sarah McAULEY
----- Jane FLECK (c1846-1914) m. (1862) John CARSON
----- Robert FLECK (c1846-1924) m. (1876) Margaret ESLER

William FLECK who married Sarah McAULEY in 1850 was of Ballynulto, and son of James FLECK.  John FLECK who married Jane McCULLOUGH in 1852 was also of Ballynulto, and a son of James FLECK.  Probably brothers?

Assuming James FLECK of Ballynulto was born c1800-1805, I think it is quite likely he was a brother or 1st cousin of George FLECK of Greenhill.

William FLECK who married Jane McAULEY in 1866 was a son of John FLECK.  He was of Drummuck at the time, but later lived in Ballyligpatrick, so was probably related to this family…

Samuel FLECK (c1804-1888) of Ballyligpatrick son of John FLECK, m. (1861) Nancy TURTLE (c1839-1895) daughter of Francis TURTLE of Ballyligpatrick.
----- Samuel FLECK (c1862-?) m1. Sarah DICKEY, m2. Maria WHYTE
----- Francis FLECK (1864-1949) m. Jenny Ann TURTLE
----- John FLECK (1867-?) m. Mary CATHCART
----- Jane FLECK (1870-?)
----- Mary Elizabeth FLECK (1872-?)
----- William James FLECK (1875-?) m. Hannah McCLINTOCK
----- Robert FLECK (1877-1960) m. Hannah DICKEY
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: pablo1 on Monday 27 May 19 01:39 BST (UK)
Gilby--some comments

1.  The information on John Vincent McCauley came from Trove--Australian newspapers that have been digitalized and put online.

2.  Was the Sarah McCauley who married William Fleck in 1850 a daughter of  John McCauley and Jane Gardner?  Your previous post re-copied below:

John McAULEY (c1771-1870) m. Jane GARDNER (c1777-1870)
----- David McAULEY (c1804-?)
----- Elizabeth McAULEY (c1805-?)
----- Jane McAULEY (c1808-?)
----- James McAULEY (c1809-1874) m. Ellen Brice KILLEN (c1820-1889)
---------- John McAULEY (c1849-?) m. Margaret GRAHAM
---------- Sarah Wilson McAULEY (c1854-?) m. William ADAIR
---------- Jane McAULEY (c1856-?) m. Andrew GARDNER
---------- James McAULEY (c1858-1948) m. Jane CLARKE
---------- Edward Brice Killen McAULEY (c1862-) m. Annie MARTIN
---------- Ellen McIlwaine McAULEY (1866-1952) m. David BONNAR
----- Robert McAULEY (c1823-1912) m. Eliza SERVICE (c1827-?)
---------- David McAULEY (c1849-?) m1. Agnes GARDNER, m2. Mary CAMPBELL
---------- Sarah Jane McAULEY (c1854-?) m. William ROBINSON
---------- George McAULEY (c1857-1932) m. Mary Agnes BLAIR
---------- John McAULEY (c1858-1903) m1. Martha DODDS, m2. Mary Jane BOVILLE
---------- Jenny McAULEY (c1860-?) m. William DODDS
---------- Elizabeth McAULEY (c1865-?) m. James BUCHANAN

Let me know if I’ve got any mistakes or omissions.
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: pablo1 on Monday 27 May 19 02:15 BST (UK)
As the Dickey family is appearing in marriages I would like to mention this Macaulay family as well:

**1.  Henry Macaulay was though to have married either Elizabeth Young or Mary MacGregor.
        He was the possible progenitor of the following family:
    2.  Capt. James Macaulay (1761-1838) of Randalstown, Co. Antrim; m. 1785 to Jane (Jeanette)
         Hyndman, dau of Thomas Hyndman and Elizabeth Bell.
    3.  Thomas Henry Macaulay (1786-1848), merchant; married in 1812 to Mary Dickey, dau of
         Adam Dickey of Hollybrook, Randalstown.
**2.  Not yet verified that they were brothers as Thomas did not become as prominent as Capt.
        James, so there is very little information on him.
        Thomas married ? and had,
    3.  Daughter m. 1785 Thomas Dickey

The Macaulay line springing from James became prominent in milling in Crumlin and Larne and banking in Belfast.  Thomas' line is a mystery.
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: Gilby on Monday 27 May 19 21:23 BST (UK)
Ah, you must be more adept at using Trove than me.

Yes, good point – I’d forgotten that Sarah McAuley who married William Fleck was one of the “Aldorough” marriages.  As mentioned before, that is a miss-transcription of “Ardymagh” which means yes, she probably was a daughter of John McCauley and Jane Gardner.

According to Rootsireland, her father was indeed John.  The witnesses were James McAuley and Robert Mcnabney (?).  William Fleck was a saddler.

The one big problem with this is that Sarah was apparently aged 23 in 1850, which I think makes her birth too late to be a daughter of Jane Gardner.  I then went in search of other records – I think she is the 76-yo in Broughshane in 1901, but then the most likely death has her aged 67 in 1910…?
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: Gilby on Monday 27 May 19 22:23 BST (UK)
Ballymena Observer, 16th Jun 1905:
Advertisement for Incumbrancers
COUNTY OF ANTRIM COUNTY COURT.  DIVISION OF BALLYMENA – EQUITY SIDE.
Pursuant to a decree of His Honour the acting County Court Judge of the County of Antrim, made in a suit wherein Samuel Bonnar, merchant, and James Caruth, solicitor, both of Ballymena, in the County of Antrim, executors of James McKinley, late of Ballykeel, in the said County, Gentleman, deceased, are plaintiffs; and Sarah Fleck, widow, James Fleck, labourer, and David Fleck, saddler, all of Broughshane; Jane Holmes, married woman, Crebilly, and Sarah Fleck, junior, Spinster, of Broughshane, all within the said County, are defendants, all persons claiming to be incumbrancers of all those two parcels of land, containing respectively, 5 acres, 2 roods, and 10 perches, and 2 roods, 13 perches, Statute measure, situate in the townland of Broughshane Upper…


Ballymena Weekly Telegraph, 19th Feb 1910:
FLECK – February 9, 1910, at her daughter’s residence, The Lodge, Crebilly, Sarah, relict of the late William Fleck, Broughshane. – Deeply regretted.
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: pablo1 on Tuesday 28 May 19 00:13 BST (UK)
My guess it that Sarah was one of the daughters of John and Jane.  According to the Ulster history article, I believe it said that they had four sons and six daughters.  If this is true, then we are still missing quite a few family members.

I think I would go with John also being one of the sons, so that would leave one son unidentified.  And if Sarah is one of the daughters, then there are three more left besides her.
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: Gilby on Friday 31 May 19 19:05 BST (UK)
Hmm, what do you think of Sarah’s varying ages though?  Have I got this right, or have I muddled two different people?

1850 aged 23 (born c1827) = marriage to William Fleck
1901 aged 76 (born c1825) = census
1910 aged 67 (born c1843) = death
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: Gilby on Friday 31 May 19 19:05 BST (UK)
I am very conscious that there was another William Fleck who was also a saddler (one of the sons of George Fleck of Greenhill who I mentioned in a post on the previous page)…

William FLECK of Ballynulto (saddler) (c1842-1908) m1. (1863) Eliza Jane CARSON (c1845-1879)
----- Agnes FLECK (1864-?) m. (1900) John SPEERS
----- Esther FLECK (1866-1945) m. (1885) Samuel BARR
----- Jane FLECK (1867-?) m. (1891) William McCONNELL
----- Sarah FLECK (1869-?) m. (1902) David Charles SURGEONER
----- Margaret FLECK (1871-?) m. (1897) John HALL
----- George FLECK (1874-?) m. (1901) Minnie PATTERSON
William FLECK of Ballynulto (farmer) m2. (1888) Agnes HERON (c1849-?)
----- Isabella FLECK (1889-?) m. (1911) George FLECK (son of David FLECK and Sarah McAULEY)
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: pablo1 on Saturday 01 June 19 08:45 BST (UK)
Gilby, I'd say that the first two Sarah's have a high probability of being the same person;  however, the third Sarah would definitely be a long shot.
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: Gilby on Saturday 01 June 19 09:35 BST (UK)
Here is the 1910 death record:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1910/05438/4521011.pdf

The thing is it was registered by her daughter Jane Holmes.  This fits perfectly with the snippet I posted above from the Ballymena Observer 1905.

Jane Fleck, daughter of William Fleck, a saddler, married David Holmes in 1884:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1884/10888/5976679.pdf
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: Gilby on Saturday 01 June 19 10:27 BST (UK)
Another possible lead – when Jane Fleck married David Holmes in 1884 her address was given as Newtowncrommelin.  I had a look through the valuation books and the only name that stood out was Bryan McAuley who lived in Skerry East c1883-1890.

He is probably the Bryan McAuley of Crooknahaya who died in 1893 – death registered by his son also called Bryan.  I can’t find the son in the census, so he *might* be this guy:

Ballymena Observer, 20th Jul 1928:
DEATH OF MR, BRYAN McAULEY
We regret to announce the death of Mr. Bryan McAuley, which took place at his residence, Maryboro’ on 13th June.  The late Mr. McAuley, who was a native of Crebilly, served for 13 years with the Hong Kong police, in which force he was an acting sergeant.  On the outbreak of war he joined the colours, and during service contracted ill-health, from which he never properly recovered.  The interment took place in Connagh Cemetery.

Ballymena Weekly Telegraph, 21st Jul 1928:
MR. BRYAN McAULEY DEAD
Formerly of Crebilly
The death took place recently at Clonkeen, Maryborough, of Mr. Bryan McAuley, who will be remembered in the Crebilly district, of which he was a native.  After leabing this locality deceased served for a period of 13 years in the police force at Hong Kong, resigning that force to join up on the outbreak of the Great War, right through which he served with the British Expeditionary Forces in France.  After demobilisation he served for about four years in the Royal Irish Constabulary, bring stationed at Kildare and Maryborough, at both of which places he was most popular and was held in the highest esteem.  He retired on the disbandment of the R.I.C., and his death at a comparatively early age was largely due to the strain and privations of the war years.  He is survived by his wife.


Could Bryan McAuley have been somehow related to Sarah McAuley who married William Fleck...?
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: Gilby on Saturday 01 June 19 19:38 BST (UK)
I should say by the way that I’m not entirely sure about Sarah Fleck who married David Charles Surgeoner in 1902. 

She was either Sarah born 1865, daughter of William Fleck and Sarah McAuley, or she was the Sarah born in 1869, daughter of William Fleck and Eliza Jane Carson. 

According to the 1911 census she 35, which is closer to the latter Sarah who said she was 25 in 1901.
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 01 June 19 21:49 BST (UK)
Why not include a Link to whatever Marriage you refer to?  People will be able to see townland etc....
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: Gilby on Sunday 02 June 19 10:21 BST (UK)
Sarah Fleck birth in 1865:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1865/03565/2313171.pdf

Sarah Fleck aged 32 in 1901:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Broughshane/Broughshane_Upper/928046/



Sarah Carson Fleck birth in 1869:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1869/03387/2241679.pdf

Sarah Carson Fleck aged 25 in 1901:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Glenwherry/Ballynulto/939206/



David Charles Surgeoner birth in 1877:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1877/03014/2104220.pdf

David Charles Surgeoner’s family in 1901 (he’s not there):
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000269639/



Marriage of one of the Sarah Flecks to David Charles Surgeoner in 1902:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1902/10287/5744366.pdf
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: pablo1 on Tuesday 04 June 19 08:41 BST (UK)
Some members of the Adair family, Buchanan family and another McCauley family can be found buried in this cemetery:

https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/66459/memorial-search?firstName=&lastName=mccauley&page=1#sr-152111052
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: pablo1 on Tuesday 04 June 19 08:46 BST (UK)
Martha Fleck Bovee and other members of her family can be found here:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/52402776/martha-bovee
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: pablo1 on Tuesday 04 June 19 08:56 BST (UK)
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/154478133/elizabeth-buchanan
Elizabeth McCauley Buchanan, wife of James Buchanan
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: Matthew McAuley on Wednesday 17 July 19 17:04 BST (UK)
Hello, recently tracked down a letter my Aunt wrote from her trip to Ireland in 1985. My grandfather's name was Samuel David McAuley dob Nov 8th, 1927 in Templepatrick Antrim. Sam immigrated to Canada in 1929 and raised a family in Western Canada as a farmer.

In the letter, my Aunt Maisie Ray McAuley wrote about an "Old McAuley Farm in Ardymagh, as well as a  "The old church at Ardymagh where the McAuleys are buried"

I have been attempting to track down both the Church and the old farm but have had very little luck, any help would be appreciated.

Cheers from the Canadian McAuleys,

"May good luck be with you Wherever you go, and your blessings outnumber the shamrocks that grow"
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: Gilby on Wednesday 17 July 19 18:38 BST (UK)
Hi Matthew,

Pablo will probably be able to tell you more, but to start with the graveyard you are looking for is probably Glenwherry Presbyterian.  You can search for headstone inscriptions here:

http://www.thebraid.com/explore-your-roots.aspx

Do you know who your grandfather’s parents were?

Gilby
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: Matthew McAuley on Wednesday 17 July 19 19:19 BST (UK)
Samuel David McAuley - Father: Robert E McAuley 1896-1984 born in Ballyclare / Mother: Matilda Jane McAuley 1903-1988 born in Northern Ireland.

Roberts Father: George McAuley born June 30 1874 / Mother:  Mary Agnes Blair born Nov 1st, 1874 in Glenwherry.

A few other names I have in the letter is:  Maisie Rye McAuley, Maggie Blair (Lived up on the hill above Ballyclare), Raymond McCalmont, Ivan McAuley, Hannah McAuley, John Eliza, Mary Aliza, Lily McAuley, Eggie McAuley, Great Great Granny McQuitty, George McAuley, Meta McAuley and Bob Blair
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: pablo1 on Thursday 18 July 19 01:36 BST (UK)
Hi, Matthew.  The George McAuley that you mentioned, who married Agnes Blair, should be my great grandmother's younger brother.  Some of these Ardymaugh McAuleys eventually  settled in Livingston Co., New York and are still involved in farming.  I will be pretty much without a computer until August 20.  If you would like to contact me directly my  However,  I would like to keep as much information as possible on this forum to help others with their research.  With best wishes, Paul Robinson
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: pablo1 on Friday 19 July 19 01:49 BST (UK)
Matthew, here is the marriage record of George McAuley and Mary Agnes Blair.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1895/10523/5832726.pdf

According to the census, Mary was born c. 1874, but George was a wee bit older.  His birth is somewhere between 1856 and 1862.  I will try to find some exact dates for you later.

Their children:
Robert, born Nov. 10, 1896
Mary Eliza, born Feb. 2, 1898
Joseph, born Sept. 29, 1899
George, born Nov. 3, 1903
John, born June 16, 1905
David, born April 4, 1907
Sarah Ann, born July 13, 1910
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: pablo1 on Friday 19 July 19 01:57 BST (UK)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1874/03129/2147125.pdf

I believe that this is the birth record for the Mary Agnes Blair whom married George McAuley.
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: pablo1 on Tuesday 13 August 19 10:32 BST (UK)
This family is of interest to me as it is from Ballyalbanagh, Ballycor and some of its members
settled in the same area in the United States as my branch of the Macauleys.  Can this family, then, be connected to the Ballynashee and Crosshill McAuleys?

Andrew McCauley of Ballyalbanagh, d. 1905; m. Mary Baird with issue:
*(1)  Mary Jane McCauley m. 1 in 1901 Alexander McKinnon, son of John McKinnon; m 2
         in 1916 Thomas Wilson, son of Robert James Wilson, farmer of Ballyalbanagh.
(2)  John McCauley m. 1901 Lizzie Moore, dau of William Moore, farmer, of Ballyalbanagh;
      witnessing their marriage were Charles McAuley and Jane Moore.  John and Lizzie had,
            a.  Andrew McCauley born Jan. 6, 1902
(3)  Charles McCauley, b. abt. 1879; blacksmith; m. May 11, 1906 Isabella Martin, dau of 
       John Martin, stone mason;  lived Ballyalbanagh.
            a.  John Martin McCauley, born abt. 1908
            b.  Mary McCauley, born abt. 1910
(4)  Samuel W. McCauley, b. Jan. 1, 1886- 1948; m. Margaretta (Margretta), also born Ireland in
      1892;  Sam emigrated to Mt. Morris, NY;  Died from a afractured skull after being kicked by
      a horse.  Issue:
            a.  Andrew E. McCauley, b. 1926; m. 1953 to Marion P. Washburn, d. May 12, 1972, dau of
                 Henry J. Washburn and Mrs Opal Edgecomb of Honeoye, New York.
            b.  Samuel R. McCauley (1926-1963);  lived Groveland, New York.  m. ?Marle? of
                 Holcombe.
(5)  Thomas McCauley, b. Jan. 27, 1889 -1971);  m. 1917 Violet ?Rudrick? Knox with issue:
            a.  Mary E. McCauley, b. 1921; m. Samuel J. Thompson (1918-2012)
            b.  Victor Thomas McCauley (1922-2003);  Hamilton College, graduate student at
                 Univ. of Rochester and the Univ. of Wisconsin; m. Emilie Jeanneret (1917-1993) on Oct.
                 30, 1948;  He married secondly to Lorraine Heffelfinger, R.N., who was the widow
                 of Robert James Haehnle, d. 1967.
            c.  Prof. William Andrew McCauley (1925-1990); m. 1947 Ruth Norman, dau of Joseph
                Norman and Zaynie ?.
(6)  Daniel McCauley, blacksmith, b. abt. 1890; m. March 10, 1920 to Melissa Watt of Le Ballyclare,
       daughter of  John Watt, paper maker.
(7)  Martha Isabella McCauley, b. abt. 1895
(8)  ?James Andrew? McCauley, mentioned in father's will;  same as Johnny born c. 1900?



Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: pablo1 on Monday 19 August 19 04:24 BST (UK)
I have found that the youngest member, Johnny, mentioned in the census was a grandson of Andrew.  Also, Andrew's will has Marry married to an Armstrong.  Perhaps there are two different Andrews.
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: pablo1 on Wednesday 21 August 19 07:20 BST (UK)
1. Jane McAuley (1860 - 1946) m. Thomas Hugh Hoey (1859 - 1948) of Upper Forest Springs,
    Allora, Australia.

2.  David Hoey, b. abt. 1880 m. ?

3.  Maride Hoey

2.  Hugh Hoey, b. about 1881

2.  J. Hoey,  both he and Thomas called 3rd son?? (1883 - 1975); m. 1914 Annie Grove Davies,
     (1884 - 1975), the niece of T. Griffiths of Kyllra.
 
2.  Thomas Hoey, m. 1916 Hester Estelle (Ettie) Smith, 2nd dau of Mr and Mrs Wiliam Smith
     of Berat.  Her brothers and sisters were H. Allen Smith of Glengallan, W. Laver Smith of Allora,
     Leslie Seymour Smith and R. Edmund Smith, both of Berat, Mrs C. Jones, Mrs A Mellor and Mrs
     T. W. Tretheway of Melbourne.

3.  Edmund William Kingsley Hoey (1920 - 2013) m. Hilma Clarke, dau of G. H. Clarke of Hendon

2.  Agnes Hoey, b. about 1885

2.  Mary Hoey, b. abt. 1888  married July 24, 1912 to G. O. Carterof Kangaroo Flat, Colinton,
     Brisbane Valley. 
 
2.  Elizabeth (Lizzie) Jane Hoey (1890 - 1977)

2.  John Hoey, MBE, (c. 1890 - 1971) m. Isabella Imhoff, died 1967, aged 74.  He may have
     been usually called Jack.

3.  Norman Leslie Hoey, died 1961

2.  Margaret Sarah Hoey b. abt. 1891, 4th daughter; m. 1916 E. H. Carter, youngest son of
     G. Carter.

2.  Annie Hoey, (1893 - 1972)

2.  Mark Andrew Hoey b. abt. 1895

2.  Robert Samuel Hoey, b. 1897 m. 1928 Hilda May White

3.  Laurel Roberta Hoey, b. abt. 1920 m. Neville Francis Muller

2.  Bladen William Hoey, b. abt. 1895 m. Florence White (1895 - 1989), 3rd dau of
     E. J. White of Spring Creek.  Some sisters of Forence were
     Mrs. A. J. Roberts, Verina White, and Hilda White.

3.  Westley Bladen Hoey, b. abt. 1915

2.  **James Luther Hoey, 7th son, (1899 - 1986) m. 1929 Ivy Myrtle Evelyn Hermansen of Laidley,
     (1901 - 1969)

3.  Lindsay James Hoey (1932 - 1948)

2.  Kingsley Allen Hoey (1903 - 1991) m. 1934 Dulcie Mary Tickle (1913 - 2002)

3.  William Trevor Hoey, (c. 1945 - 1946)

**When James Luther Hoey married in 1929 these were the relatives present at his wedding:
Mr and Mrs D. Hoey of Bangaban, Greenmount.
Miss Maride Hoey of Greenmount
Mr and Mrs T. Hoey, Jr. of Greenvale, Clifton
Mr and Mrs F. May of Mt. Kent, Nobby; Who?
Miss A. Hoey of Upper Forest Springs
Mr J. Hoey of Upper Forest Springs
Mr Kingsley Hoey of Upper Forest Springs
Mr and Mrs T. Hoey of Coominya

**Unidentified family members buried in the Allora Cemetery, Queensland, Australia

William Homer Hoey (1931 - 2006)

Harold Ray Hoey (1924 - 1997) m. Valerie J. Frizzell (1928 - 1986)

Robert Hoey (1893 - 1971) married to Ethel Florence Telford , died 1968.  Birthdate is near
the above mentioned Robert.  Married twice?  This Robert had a son, Robert George Hoey
(1922 - 1952).

Elaine Beulah Hoey (1930 - died same)

Pvt. Leonard Ogilvie Hoey (1918 - 1976) m. Alma and had two sons, Alan and John Hoey
Title: Re: McCauley (McAuley) family of Ardymaugh
Post by: hallmark on Monday 26 August 19 08:52 BST (UK)





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