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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Devon => Topic started by: audbr on Friday 19 September 08 17:50 BST (UK)
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Hi Can anybody help,
I have been researching the Audley surname and have created the website www.audleyfamilyhistory.com to make my work available to others.
To liven up the website I am looking for photographs of places with Audley in its name.
I understand that in Torquay there is:
Audley Avenue
Higher Audley Avenue
Lower Audley Road
and Newton Abbot has;
Audley Rise
As I live in Liverpool would some kind person be prepared to e-mail me a digital photograph of one or more of the above roads. I will put the picture on my website with an appropriate credit
Regards
Brian Audley
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I live in Torquay, but those roads are extremely difficult for me to get to. One you've missed is the former Audley Park School - now called Torquay Community College.
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Hi Terryleaman,
Many thanks for the addition information. Do you know if there any significance of the Audley name in Torquay
Regards
Brian
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Dear Brian
That is certainly a very fascinating question
I was born and grew up in Torquay in the 60s and my elder sister attended Audley Park School but I have no idea at all how it gots its name. It was probably the largest and one of the newer secondary moderns in the town - maybe built in the 1940s - just guessing. And yes the street name Audley keeps cropping up - but why ? As Audley is certainly not a prolific name in Devon. I wonder if in Torquay Audley is not connected with a surname but maybe shortened from something like Old Lee shortened to Auld Lee ? if you see what I mean. I have an old travel book about Torquay from 1932 which has a street map and the area near where the school was built - was called Audley Park - so the area was called this before the school appeared. The roads you mention are in the Audley Park area possibly also built in the 1940s - when streets just tail off on this map I am not sure if they were just nmot shown or still being built.
If you contact Torquay library Local Studies they may know how Audley got its name - I wonder if it is something to do with Windmill Hill ? I would also be very interested.
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Just down the road from Audley Park is Pennys Hill and Pennys Cottage - I think one of the oldest houses in Torquay 1600s maybe ?
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The only reference I can find to an Audley is that at some time the Manor of St Marychurch was owned by Lord Audley. The site of the school and Windmill Hill above were both in the Manor.
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Hi CheshireMog & Terryleaman,
Many thanks to both of you for your comments. I will certainly follow the suggestions regarding The Manor of St Marychurch being owned by Lord Audley and see if Torquay library will have any more information.
CheshireMog.
Many thanks for the scanned image of the map. I don't know whether or not you have looked at my website? www.audleyfamilyhistory.com Would you allow me to put the scanned image showing Audley Park on my website? As the book you have was published in1932 I should not have a problem with copyright.
If you agree would you please advise the title of the travel book?
Regards
Brian Audley
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Dear Brian
I personally dont mind if you use the map on your website but I cannot comment on the issue of copyright - hopefully this will not be an issue.
Taking a closer look at the book I think it is actually for 1923/24
Ward Lock & Co Ltd, Warwick House, Salisbury Square, London EC4 - Illustrated Guide Books - Torquay & South Devon
Glad it was of interest
You have done a great job on your website
mog
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Hi Cheshire Mog,
Thanks for the information the map is now on the website under places called Audley
Regards
Brian
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Dear Brian
Yes I have checked it out and the map is looking good
I have another map see pic below
'Plan of Torquay & Paignton
Showing Places of Interest
Index to Street
Price 1/- net
Published By SA Baker
Stationer & Bookseller
37 Torwood Street, Torquay
on the back is an advert for Devon General Telephone 63226
No idea on date really
but Audley Park Road is on there and Audley Park School is not mentioned
but the Girls Grammar School built in the 1920s is mentioned.
I think this map is pre 1940s
I wonder if Terry Leaman is about and he can help ?
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Hi, I've looked into dates and my best estimate is that it is just pre-war.
Reasons:-
Girls Grammar School opened in Shiphay Lane in 1939. (not 1920s)
Audley Park opened in 1938 (why the Grammar school is shown and not Audley Park is a mystery)
Devon General depot was opened in 1931
The new hospital is 1926.
Queensway is very much a much later addition - Not until late 60s possibly early 70s.
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Thanks Terry
Its always nice to know these things
mog
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Hi Mog and Terry,
Many thanks for the additional map and the estimate of the published date. I have now put the second map on the website.
I have e-mailed Torquay Library tosee what they have to say about the name Audley and St Marychurch Manor.
Must ask if you were born in Torquay why have you become a CheshireMog. I live in Merseyside the bit that was thrown out of Cheshire!!
Thanks to both of you for helping me develop ww.audleyfamilyhistory.com
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Hi Mog and Terry,
I have just had the following reply from Torquay reference library:
According to Rev Brownlow's book "St Marychurch in Saxon and Roman Times"
"Sir Robert Pole sums up the history of St Marychurch in the following words:-
"Robert de St Mary Church held the same in King Henry 2 tyme from which it descended unto Amicia de St Mary Church, wife of Maurice de Rotomago, anno 27 of Kinge Henry 3; unto whom succeeded William de Cirencester: and anno 19 of Kinge Edward 3, the Lord James Awdelegh was Lord thereof: from whom, after the death of Nicholas lo Awdelegh, it came unto the Lord Fulk Fitz Warren by Margaret his wife, daughter of James Lord Awdelegh: and soe from Fitz Warren it is descended unto John Earle of Bath, which sold the same unto John Forde of Bagtor, whose son George Forde sold the same unto Sir George Cary of Cockington."”
This is taken from Pole's “Description of Devonshire”. Therefore Lord Awdelegh (Audley) was Lord of the Manor of St Marychurch for a time from 1346.
I don’t know if you have come across the Dictionary of National Biography in your research so far? This multi volume reference work is held by many public libraries and volume 2 p. 929 – 931 has a section on this very early Audley family.
Regarding the Audley Park Housing Estate. This was built in the 1910's but I cannot find in Council Minutes any indication as to why the name was chosen although it does seem likely that the architect, Mr Moore, chose it due to this earlier history.
Regards
Brian
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Dear Audbr
Sorry have only just found your post - I did not get an email notification for some reason.
I am Cheshiremog originally Cheshirecat - from Lewis Carols - Alice in Wonderland's - 'grinning like a Cheshire Cat' - my father is from Cheshire - and my initials are C.A.T. - and I like cats (more than dogs) so that's about it really.
I was born in Torquay and my heart lies there and so am in great awe of Terry Leaman who is such a fount of knowledge for that area.
So glad to hear you have made further progress and the maps were of help
- our paths will cross again I am sure.
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Hi Cheshire Mog
I am sure we will meet again
Regards
Brian
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RE YOUR MAP....dating
post 1920 circa 1930 Id guess
Mrs. Ella Rowcroft from the Bristol WILLS family, tobacco importers and cigarette manufacturers gave £100,00 for the building of a new Torbay Hospital* on a green field site at Lawes Bridge, Torquay. She laid the Foundation Stone on 26 June 1926 and the hospital opened to patients in September 1928.
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Hi Slightlyfoxed,
Many thanks for the information
Regards
Brian