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Title: Victoria Monmouth?
Post by: tenby tart on Monday 22 September 08 10:38 BST (UK)
I have been doing my husbands family tree and have found his ggrandfather born in Victoria Monmouth my husband and I were both born in Newport but we have never heard of this place where exactly is it.

Regards

Lynne
Title: Re: Victoria Monmouth?
Post by: ricky1 on Monday 22 September 08 10:40 BST (UK)
Hi Lynne


From http://www.genuki.org.uk/

Victoria - see see Bedwellte / Bedwellty

ricky
Title: Re: Victoria Monmouth?
Post by: tenby tart on Tuesday 23 September 08 08:37 BST (UK)
Thank you Ricky


Lynne
Title: Re: Victoria Monmouth?
Post by: ricky1 on Tuesday 23 September 08 09:50 BST (UK)
Hi Lynne

your welcome

regards
ricky
Title: Re: Victoria Monmouth?
Post by: bracaragh on Saturday 18 October 08 14:45 BST (UK)
Hi there, the village of Victoria was at the lower end of Ebbw Vale overlooking the steelworks.
You could read a book in your house from the light of the furnaces from the works!!
It has long since gone but just along the way from where Victoria was you will find the Festival Park shops. It also makes a nice little walk....you will find the old pond above the main road is now called the Wetlands.
I don't think there was any other place in the valleys called Victoria.
Title: Re: Victoria Monmouth?
Post by: Tinker1950 on Friday 08 January 10 21:25 GMT (UK)
Hi

Don't know if you've moved on but the attached photo shows the village of Victoria. Looking north to the steel works. The steam and smoke were a part of every day life.

I used to visit my great grandmother who lived in Augusta Street Victoria. These houses were pulled down around 1960 I believe.
 
Cheers

Ian
Title: Re: Victoria Monmouth?
Post by: bracaragh on Tuesday 12 January 10 07:48 GMT (UK)
many thanks for sharing the pic :)
Title: Re: Victoria Monmouth?
Post by: tenby tart on Thursday 14 January 10 19:19 GMT (UK)
Thank you all for your replies & picture.

I m still trying to find Thomas Jenkins b 1866 in Victoria,

I have him with his wife Mary 1911, 1901, living in Risca.

There are a few Thomas, s living in Ebbw Vale in the 1881 census, two look promising these are the address that are given,

2 saddlers Row

8 Trump Court

Could anyone tell me are these in Victoria I have tried to look myself but with no luck.

Thanks Lynne
Title: Re: Victoria Monmouth?
Post by: Tinker1950 on Sunday 24 January 10 19:44 GMT (UK)
Hi

Can't give a definitive answer on Saddlers Row or Trump Court. However there is a Saddlers Row on 1881 census for Bedwellty RG11/5245 District 25 but this row was nearer , what is now, the main town of Ebbw Vale but not that far from Victoria. Haven't come accross Trump Court but if you have a bit more detail on these addresses I will check them out.

Cheers

Ian
Title: Re: Victoria Monmouth?
Post by: Dicksfinder on Thursday 18 February 10 12:09 GMT (UK)
Hi all,
The photograph of Victoria is great, what a place to live!
My wifes grandfather, Samuel Dicks, was born in Pit Row, which I assume was near one of the coal mines.
According to his birth certificate his father, Henry Dicks, worked as a Lime Burner, it must only have been for a fairly short time though as all her related Dick's families were born in Wiltshire, Bradford-upon-Avon or Trowbridge.
Any thoughts on Pit Row?
Cheers,
Dicksfinder.
Title: Re: Victoria Monmouth?
Post by: Tinker1950 on Friday 19 February 10 06:36 GMT (UK)
Hi Dicksfinder

Victoria was pretty spectacular, especially the coking ovens at night, Dante would have been proud.

You asked about Pit Row. That's like looking for a needle in a haystack.  Many little villages were set up around local pits and you can guarantee they all had their own Pit Row. If you can give me some dates for your wife's relatives and what parish eg Bedwellty then I could have a look for you.

Cheers

Ian
Title: Re: Victoria Monmouth?
Post by: Dicksfinder on Friday 19 February 10 22:18 GMT (UK)
Hi Tinker,

This is the information that we have from Samuels birth certificate:
Date of Birth:  11th March 1859
Name : Samuel Dicks
Place of Birth:  Pit Row, Victoria
Sub District of Genedigaeth - Tredegar in the County of Monmouth
Father: Henry Dicks
Mother: Augusta Dicks nee Peters
Fathers Occupation; Lime Burner

Great grandfather Henry was born in Bradford upon Avon in 1836 and in those days his surname was spelt Dix, we are not sure why they went to Monmouth, or when, because in 1851 he was living at home with his parents and siblings.

In 1859 he was in Monmouthshire when grandfather Samuel was born, yet in 1861 they were back in Bradford upon Avon, with another child in addition to Samuel.

I understand that Lime Burners worked in Coal Mines or Steel Works, would there have been a serious accident around 1859/60 that caused great grandfather Henry and Augusta to retun to the relative safety of rural Wiltshire?

Any light that you can shed on this small puzzle in my wifes family tree would be most helpful.

With best wishes to all in Monmouthsire,

Dicksfinder
 
Title: Re: Victoria Monmouth?
Post by: Nuttypete on Saturday 05 February 11 18:15 GMT (UK)
Hi Dicksfinder,

Found your message about the Dicks family of Trowbridge. I have been researching the family for some years, as a branch of the Peters family.  In reply to your question about Henry and Augusta being in Victoria, Ebbw Vale, I think it is most probable that Henry went to find work in the mines and/or steel works at the same time as Augusta's brothers, Ebenezer and Daniel Peters.  Both Ebenezer and Daniel married local girls. Ebenezer and his wife Ellen remained in Victoria for the rest of their lives.  Daniel and his wife Ruth emigrated to the U.S.A.

Ebenezer and Ellen lived in Augusta Street.  I have a copy of the same photograph of Augusta Street as that already posted.  I also have a photograph of Ellen and one of her daughters standing outside their house.

Regards,

Nuttypete

Title: Re: Victoria Monmouth?
Post by: diplodicus on Monday 30 April 18 17:16 BST (UK)
I am related to the Dix/Dicks family but I'm not sure how. I found the connection as a DNA match to a descendant of Henry and who moved to Utah. The connection is down the line through Thomas Dix (1877-1963) and his son Wilfred Dix (1904-1975). I have yet to find a common ancestor as the matches are not particularly strong (although strong enough!).

I am in touch with Wilfred's granddaughter in the United States.