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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Flintshire => Wales => Flintshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: lpw0486 on Monday 22 September 08 20:56 BST (UK)
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I am trying to find out information about the Connah Family in Warren in Broughton/ Hawarden. i have got back as far as Edward Connah born c1847 and he is married to a lady called Hannah they had four children 3 males and one female. can anyone shed any light on this family.
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Hi lpw,
Any use?
1851
HO107/2172 830 40
Pentrobin, Cheshire
Richard Connah, head, 45, Waggoner
Mary, wife, 46
Mary, dau, unm, 19
Thomas, son, 16
William, son, 12, scholar
Richard, son, 10, scholar
Frances, dau, 8, scholar
Edward, son, 5
All born Hawarden
:)
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Possible marriage:
Edward Connah - Hannah Owens
Dec 1865 Great Broughton 8a 549
(marriage took place at Chester St Mary according to Cheshire BMD http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/cheshirebmd/index.html )
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The 1881 census shows a second girl:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/04ct/
Looking at the actual census image, I wouldn't swear that the age of the head, George Owens, is 42. It could be 62 in my opinion.
Maybe he IS 42 after all ... I see he's staying with the family on the 1901 census, now as brother in law, aged 62 ... and he's 50 in 1891.
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Fantastic thank you so much, if you have any more info that will be great i may have a challenge for you although i do not know what information you may have access to i am also looking for info on my grandfather.
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I have access to census.
Do you have 1891 and 1901 yet?
1891
RG12/2870 39 13
Hawarden, Flintshire
Broughton
Warren Road - 2 rooms occupied
Edward Connal, head, 42, Farmer Labourer
Hannah, wife, 45
Ellen, dau, s, 23, General Servant domestic
Peter, son, s, 21, General Labourer
John, son, s, 20, General Labourer
Mary, dau, s, 18, General servant domestic
George owens, brother in law, s, 50, General Labourer
All born Hawarden
1901
RG13/3377 125 19
Hawarden, Flintshire
Broughton
Warren Broughton
3 rooms occupied
Edward Connar, head, 56, General Labourer
Hannah, wife, 59
Peter, son, s, 32, General Labourer
Mary, dau, s, 28
George Owen, brother in law, s, 62, General Labourer
All born Hawarden
:)
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This looks like Hannah on earlier censuses
1861
RG9/2634 127 13
Broughton, Cheshire
Peter Owens, head, wid, 46, Carter & Farmer of xx acres, b. Flintshire
George, son, unm, 20, Labourer on Railway, b. do.
Hannah, dau, 18, b. do.
1851
HO107/2172 671 16
Broughton, Flintshire
Broughton Windmill
Elizth Owens, head, wid, 75, b. Hope Flintshire
John Owen, son, unm, 52, Carter, b. do.
Martha Owen, granddau, 15, G Daugh, b. Broughton Flintshire
George Owen, grandson, 12, G son, b. do.
Hannah Owens, granddau, 10, G daugh, b. do.
John Edwards, serv, 38, servt, b. Hawarden
(Meanwhile, Peter is a Patient at Chester Infirmary, Chester Long Edge, widowed, 34, Carter, b. Flintshire Hope)
1841
HO107/1409/5 9 22
Hawarden, Flintshire
Township of Broughton
Elizth Owens, 70, not born in county
Peter, 30, Jagger
Ellen, 30
Martha,5
George, 2
Hannah, 1
John, 35
All bar Elizth born in county.
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this is fantastic i do not know if i am asking to much is it possible to find out where Alfred wen t so i cam confirm my findings
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Who is Alfred? :P
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http://www.rootschat.com/links/04ct/
the eldest son he is my relitive.
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OK, I'm with you again - sorry ;D
1901
RG13/3377 124 18
Hawarden, Flintshire
Broughton
Warren Broughton
3 rooms occupied
Alfred Connah, head, 35, General Labourer, b. Flintshire Hawarden
Rose Hannah, wife, 33, b. Hope
Jane, dau, 11, b. Hawarden
George Edward, son, 9, b. do.
Arthur, son, 7, b. do.
Lee, son, 4, b. do.
English spoken for all
:)
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1891
RG12/2870 39 14
Hawarden, Flintshire
Broughton
Alfred Connah, head, 25, General Farm Labourer, b. Broughton
Rose H, wife, 23, b. Hope
Jane, dau, 1, b. do.
Just for the record, their neighbours are called Connah as well - Joseph Connah, licensed victualler and family, at the Castle Inn.
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i love this, that is lee where i got my name from. there is one more Daughter born in 1907 who is my grgranmother Hannah, she had two children one of which is my nan. i am trying desperatly to find my grandfather i do not know if you will be able to help. do you not mind doing all this reseach. i would love to be able to do this for others. i have only been doing for about a month and everyoneis so so kind and i would like to thank you especially you have confirmed and added to the information i have.
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Very welcome. I'm afraid research after 1901 is much more difficult because the latest available census for now is 1901.
Hmm. Just had a look at your previous posts and I guess it's John Williams born around 1930. Bit of a needle in a haystack I'm afraid :-\
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How far can you go back with the census, my mum is now wanting to know about powells in the surrounding area to the connahs.
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Censuses cover 1841 - 1901.
Best start a new thread for a new family :D
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1841
HO107/1409/5 9 22
Hawarden, Flintshire
Township of Broughton
Elizth Owens, 70, not born in county
Peter, 30, Jagger
Ellen, 30
Martha,5
George, 2
Hannah, 1
John, 35
is this then Hannah's Mother and Father Peter and Ellen? Elizth 70 and in 1851 she is 75 and John is theis the same servant.??? i am getting confussed.
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Unfortunately the 1841 census doesn't show relationships or marital status, and the ages for adults are rounded down to the nearest 5 (not to mention that people often weren't too fussy about their exact age anyway)
Ellen could be Peter's wife indeed. She could also be a sister or a cousin or a sister-in-law ...
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By the way - don't know whether you had this yet:
Marriage Dec 1888 Chester 8a 627
Alfred Connah - Rose Hannah Williams
(marriage took place at Chester St Mary according to http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/ )
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And with a little luck, this is Rose in 1871:
RG10/3737 33 17
Hope, Flintshire
(sorry, can't read address)
Joseph Williams, head, 42, Collier & Shop Keeper, b. Hawarden
Jane, wife, 38, Collier's wife, b. do.
Mary, dau, 8, scholar, b. do.
Jane, dau, 6, scholar, b. do.
Rose Hannah, dau, 3, b. Hope
William, son, 1, b. do.
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Thank you so much, you are being so help full.
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My pleasure :D
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Hey, browsing the internet and came across this, I am a connah living in Broughton most of my family are from Buckley and I'm very interested in learning so much more!
Thank you. :)
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Hi Ben,
Welcome to RootsChat!!
It looks like the original poster, Ipw0486, hasn't been on the site since 2009. Usually, the participants in a thread will be notified by email when another post has been added - I hope Ipw still has the same address and has received notification of your post. ???
If you have any questions about your family, please post them. There are lots of people here to help. I only have a few Connahs from the Buckley area on my tree, but I have some of the Hawarden parish register transcript books (mostly baptisms).
RK (loads of relatives from the Buckley area :) :))
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Hi Connah Family Researchers
This info might be of interest.
My Grand Uncle John Chilton of Saltney Ferry appears to have married Esther Connah in late 1890s.
She was born in Hawarden 1877 and died in Cheshire in 1965.
John and Esther had two children - Alice R Chilton born c. 1898 and Mary Chilton born c. 1900 , both in Hawarden.
Esther Connah lived in Bretton nearby in 1881 with her parents Benjamin and Rebecca Conman born c. 1850.
Esther' s siblings were John born 1881
Thomas born 1882
Hannah born 1885
Benjamin
In 1901 Esther as a widow living with Hannah in Bretton, , 2 miles from Hawarden.
Paul Jones
Any more info needed or to get in touch through this site . I am in thread chilton/Jones
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Maybe an error on earlier post.
Esther Connah born circa 1850 married my great uncle John Chilton of Saltney Ferry.
Their recorded children were Walter, Harry, Herbert,Irene, Rebecca, Ett?, Mary and May.
Would appreciate any information about Esther Connah and her ancestors.
Paul Jones
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Hi,
Looking for John Chilton married to Esther Connah... I see a marriage in Hawarden, 2 July 1896.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KC5T-W1Z
Approximate birth year for both is 1874 (more in line with your first post... not the 1850 you said in your second post)
This looks like Esther Connah's baptism in Broughton - 1877
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KC5T-CCY
Actual image shows parents Benjamin and Rebecca.
1881 census
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X317-51N
Banjamin - 1850 (51)
Rebecca - 1849 (52)
John - 1870 (11)
Thomas - 1872 (9)
Hannah - 1875 (6)
Esther - 1878 (3)
Banjamin - 1881 (0)
So - looking for a marriage between Benjamin Connah and a Rebecca - sometime before 1870.
This looks good. Benjamin Connah and Rebeccah Bennion 20 Nov 1869 at St. Mary's Chester.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQB5-KC3
Benjamin's father is Joseph Connah and Rebeccah's father is Samuel Bennion.
RK
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Earlier census records for Rebecca Bennion, with father Samuel in Saltney/Bretton area - show that Samuel was born in Gresford, Denbighshire, and his wife Esther was born in Hawarden (Pentrobin) Flintshire.
1861 - Samuel Bennion
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7LN-J8H
1861 - Esther Bennion
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7LN-J8C
Children from the 1861 census - all born Saltney
George - 18
John - 14
Rebecca - 12
Thomas - 9
RG 9/2634 pg 52
1851 census... Samuel is 44, born Denbighshire. Esther is 39, born Hawarden, Flintshire
Here is Esther
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGBP-7N2
Children
Ellen - 19
Mary - 10
George 8
John 5
Rebecca 3
Ann 2 months
HO 107/2, page 39
I think this is Samuel in 1841
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M77R-X7J
Family is in Bretton. Wife is Esther
Children are
Ellen - 8
Eliza - 4
Hannah - 2
Mary - 1 month
HO 107/1409/3
So, if you want to go back further, you can look for a marriage of Samuel Bennion and Esther around 1828-1832 or so.
RK
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This is Rebecca Bennion's baptism record. It is mistranscribed as Benman...
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KC5T-T1D
Have looked at the image and I think it is your Rebecca. Parents are Samuel Bennion and Esther Piercy of Bretton.
RK
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Census records show Benjamin Connah from 1871-1911 in Bretton. He is with Rebecca until 1891, then he is a widower living with daughter Hannah in 1901. So Rebecca died between 1891 and 1901
Free BMD has a death that looks right... Jun Q of 1898
CONNAH Rebecca 49 CHester 8a 263
Benjamin died after 1911. This could be him (though Benjamin Connah is a fairly common name in the area.).
Sept Q of 1913
CONNAH Benjamin 64 Hawarden 11b 273
Benjamin Connah, born about 1850 father Joseph... in the Saltney area.
This is likely him - born 1848 and baptized 1849
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KC5T-ZYD
Father is Joseph Connah and mother is Hannah Griffiths - Bretton.
RK
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I wonder if this could be the marriage of Benjamin's parents... Joseph Connah and Hannah Griffiths. Dec 28, 1846 at St. Mary's Broughton.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KC5T-86C
Both Joseph and Hannah are 24. Joseph's father is Benjamin Connah and Hannah's father is William Griffiths.
Looking for Joseph and Hannah Connah with son Benjamin (b 1848) in 1851, but not finding them... drat.
See a Joseph and Hannah of the right age in 1861 in Bretton, several kids (Elizabeth 10, Joseph 8, William 6, Ann 3 and Thomas 1), but Benjamin not with them. So can't be certain that it is the right family.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7LN-GS3
I still haven't found a tie in to my family tree ... my Benjamin Connahs were born in the 1700s. I have lots of Piercys and Bennions, but none that seem to match with Rebecca either.
RK
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Hello Run Kitty
Thank you for all the info..
Will wade my way thro it and get back to you.
Paul Jones
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I believe this is my family too. my grandmother was Ett, (Esther), she married Lawrence Ewart Brown circa 1925. I have photos of John Chilton and his father and mother. Reach out to me Paul if I can help I will.
Sue White (was Brown)