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Hello,
Trying to find any family of Robert Taylor (53) who is a Carter in Heywood in 1901
He should be living with at least his daughter Annie (Aged 16/17)
Just got Annie's 1904 marriage certifcate, which has armed me with alot more information then just her name which i had previously. Trouble however in wading through all the Taylor's to find the right lot.
Thanks
Jonathan
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Jonathon.
Here is what it says on their 1901 Census entry:
RG13/3642, ED 12, Folio 131, Page 45
9 Willow Street, Haywood, Bury, Lanc's
Robert TAYLOR, Head, Mar, 53Yrs old, Carter , Bn Spotland, Lanc's
Sarah Alice TAYLOR, Wife , Mar, 50Yrs old, , Bn Spotland, Lanc's
ANNIE TAYLOR, Daut , Single, 16Yrs old, Cotton R--g spinner , Bn Bury, Lanc's
Fred TAYLOR, Son , , 14Yrs old, Cotton R--g duffer , Bn Bury, Lanc's
Bertha TAYLOR, Daut, , 11Yrs old, , Bn Spotland, Lanc's
P.S.
Some of the print is hard to read, partly because of 'Ticks/Lines' drawn through it?
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1891, 38 Crown Point Spotland Lancashire
RG12/3335 93 30
Robert Taylor 45 Norden Lancs Carter
Sarah A 41 "
Annie 6 Birtle
Fred 4 "
Bertha 1 Norden
Esther Tattersall Wid 73 Gd.Mother Norden
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Also, their 1891 Return:
RG12/3335, ED 6, Folio 95, Page 30
38 Crown Point, Horden, Spotland (Further Side), Rochdale, Lanc's
Robert TAYLOR, Head, Mar, 43Yrs old, Carter , Bn Horden, Lanc's
Sarah A. TAYLOR, Wife , Mar, 40Yrs old, , Bn Horden, Lanc's
ANNIE TAYLOR, Daut, , 6Yrs old, Scholar , Bn Birtle, Lanc's
Fred TAYLOR, Son , , 4Yrs old, , Bn Birtle, Lanc's
Bertha TAYLOR, Daut, , 1Yr old, , Bn Horden, Lanc's
Esther TATTERSALL, Gd mother, 73Yrs old, , Bn Horden, Lanc's
Cazay.
You Type Faster that I can!
The Birth place (& Where the Census was Taken) was 'HORDEN' (I worked this out by going back to the first page of this Section which gives all the details of the Area covered!) ::) ;)
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Also, their 1881 Return:
RG11/4112, ED 6, Folio 91, Page 1
Shelfield, Spotland (Further side), Rochdale, Lanc's
Robert TAYLOR, Head, Mar, 34Yrs old, Weaver , Bn Spotland, Lanc's
Sarah A. TAYLOR, Wife, Mar, 30Yrs old, Weaver , Bn Spotland, Lanc's
Esther SANDERSON, Sister, , 16Yrs old, Weaver , Bn Spotland, Lanc's
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Here is the ref for Robert & Sarahs Marriage:
On FreeBDM
March Qtr 1873
Robert TAYLOR & Sarah Alice SANDERSON, Rochdale 8e 31
On LancashireBDM
Robert TAYLOR & Sarah Alice SANDERSON married at Norden, St Paul, Rochdale (Ref:Rochdale : CE9/1/120)
Appolls to Cazay, You were Right it was 'NORDEN' :-[
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Sarah Alice SANDERSON was Born in the June Qtr of 1850 (ref: Rochdale 21 850)
I Looked for Roberts birth, there were (at least) 6 'Robert TAYLORs' born in Rochdale C1847-49.
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I found something Interesting on the 1871 Census:
RG10/4122 ED6, Folio 95, Page 18
5 Clay Lane, Norden, Spotland,Lanc's
Mary TAYLOR, Head , Widow, 76Yrs old, Cotton Carder (retired) , Bn Bury, Lanc's
SARAH ALICE SANDERSON, Gd Daut, UnMar, 20Yrs old, Cotton Weaver , Bn Spotland, Lanc's
Also, on the IGI (Familysearch.org) I found:
Sarah Alice SANDERSON
Christened: 1st December 1850, St Chad, Rochdale, Lanc's
Parents: James & Ann SANDERSON
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Pegasuss, usually people type faster than me ::)
Hopefully this is Robert Taylor in 1871 as it is the town of Norden and the address above where Robert lives is Crown Point.
1871, 2 Minorca, Norden Spotland
RG10/4122 90 9
Mary Lee 74 Widow Rochdale
Robert Taylor G/son 24 Rochdale Cotton Weaver
Martha Fletcher 22 lodger Rochdale Cotton Rover
Cazay
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Thankyou Pegasuss and Cazay! ;D
Textbook stuff. I was getting a little peeved last night looking for Robert Taylor's birth because as you say there are many for that year and either side...
...But all your work has more then made up for that!
Sorry to take so long in repleying, computer's playing up
Thanks again
Jonathan
P.S. ------- I'm a little slow on the uptake :), How can Sarah Alice in 1871 two years before she weds Robert Taylor live with a Mary Taylor who is listed as her Grandmother. Is it as simple as Taylor being common in Rochdale and its just a fluke that Sarah Alice married a Taylor?
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re: Sarah Alice & Mary TAYLOR
Most likely that Mary is/was not closely related to Robert (But You never Know!).
I will look in to it (as best I can), via My Census Discs (1841-1901)
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James SANDERSON married Ann TAYLOR
From FreeBDM:
March Qtr 1850, Rochdale 21 548
From LancashireBDM:
Married at St Chad, Rochdale 1850
Ref: Rochdale : CE11/14/500
1851 Census
HO107/2245-2,ED 3c, Folio 319, Page 40
Clapgate, Spotland, Rochdale, Lanc’s
James SANDERSON, Head, Mar, 20Yrs old, Bleacher , Bn Spotland, Lanc’s
Ann SANDERSON, Wife, Mar, 24Yrs old, , Bn Spotland, Lanc’s
Sarah A. SANDERSON, Daut, , 11Mths old, , Bn Spotland, Lanc’s
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Thankyou once again Pegasuss ;D
You must be a mind reader!, i was just coming on the internet to try and solve the Great-grandmother Taylor mystery.
Going to have to be extra careful now and not get my Taylor's mixed up!
This is a new one on me, lets hope i never find a lady with the same maiden name as marriaged one!
Jonathan
P.S. - Been looking for the birth of James Sanderson and low and be hold i get two at the same church within two years!
I'm leaning towards the elder of the two but you never can be sure.
They were both christened at the Wesleyen (excuse spelling) Methodist church in Shawforth, Rochdale:
James no.1 in 1830 - parents were Henry and Lydia
James No.2 in 1832 - Parents were John and Sarah
Theres only one way to solve this me thinks and that would be to try and find our James Sanderson on the 1841 census and see who his parents are...
...ruddy hell as i write that i realise my stupidness, i don't know how we are to figure out which of the two now 11 and 9 year old James' is ours.
Clutching at straws here! ;D - Anyone got an opinion on which of the two James' is mine?
Thanks Again
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Jonathon.
I did a search of the 1841 Name Index, & found 3 'James SANDERSONs' (aged 9-11Yrs) listed as living in Rochdale.
Numbers 1 & 3 are:
Ho107/551-4, ED 7, Folio 48, Page 5.
Shawforth, Spotland, Rochdale, Lanc's
Henry SANDERSON, 30Yrs old, Carter , Bn In County
Lydia SANDERSON, 30Yrs old, , Bn In County
JAMES SANDERSON, 11Yrs old, , Bn In County
Alice SANDERSON, 9Yrs old, , Bn In County
Thomas SANDERSON, 7Yrs old, , Bn In County
John SANDERSON, 4yrs old, , Bn In County
Betty SANDERSON, 1Yr old , , Bn In County
Ho107/551-4, ED 7, Folio 48, Page 6
Shawforth, Spotland, Rochdale, Lanc's
John SANDERSON, 30Yrs old, Stone Miner , Bn In County
Sarah SANDERSON, 25Yrs old, , Bn In County
JAMES SANDERSON, 9Yrs old, , Bn In County
Abraham SANDERSON, 6Yrs old, , Bn In County
Ann SANDERSON, 1Yr old , , Bn In County
The other one, I could'nt find on My Census Discs?
But Here is the Info from the Name Index:
HO107/550-3, Folio 41 (I think Who ever Transcribed the Info for the Index got the Numbers Wrong?)
John SANDERSON, 35Yrs old
Bella SANDERSON, 41Yrs old
Mary SANDERSON, 16Yrs old
Jane SANDERSON, 12Yrs old
JAMES SANDERSON, 9Yrs old
John SANDERSON, 7Yrs old
Betty SANDERSON, 3Yrs old
This family can be found on ancestry.co.uk (by anyone with a Full Sub or using the Library Service at Your Nearest participating Library).
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Thankyou Pegasuss! :)
Oh dear, three - There be only one way to solve this, and that is to get the marriage certifcate of James and Ann's from 1850
Add it to my long list!
Jonathan
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Jonathon.
I posted all 3 so that You can file them for Future Refference!
You never Know, They may turn out to All be Related? ::) ;)
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Lol - I will keep them for future reference Pegasuss :)
I am grateful for your help and advise
I was just a little annoyed that things seldom are easy in this game - We must be mad to do it! ;D
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We must be mad to do it!
It Helps! ::) ;D ;D ;D
I have always said it has a similar effect to Drugs or Alcohol! (But with out the side effects!) ::) ;) ;D ;D ;D
The Buzz when You Knock down one of those Infuriating Brickwalls is better than .........! ::)