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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Nairnshire => Topic started by: scot1 on Thursday 02 October 08 16:50 BST (UK)
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hello new to this can anyone help with alexandrena dunbar she married david soutter 08/06/1875 atblackfold ardclach i can find her in the census 1881,1891 ,1901 but cannot find her before that she was born in ardclach in 1854 on the marriage cet it says her father george dunbar mother isabella kinnaird but on her death cet father william dunbar fraser and mother isabella fraser m/s kinnaird i have tried to find her birth cet with no luck any help or thoughts on this would be great
from scot 1
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I do n't know if this'll help but I checked on familysearch & found her mother's marriage details.Isabella Kinnaird married Donald Fraser 1st July 1859 in the parish of Ardlach.I looked for them in freecen & in 1861 they were in Ordbreak,Cawdor.You can get the marriage certificate information off scotlandspeople.You never know,her daughter may be one of the witnesses!
flst
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Ok i will try that.Thanks Flst
Scot1
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Not sure if this helps as Alexandrena b. 1854 does not show in the household, but this looks to be Donald and Isabella following their marriage in the 1861 census:
Donald Fraser 38, Crofter (or Farmer) Of 6 Ac, b. Dores, Invernessshire
Isabella Kinnaird 32, b.Ardclach, Nairnshire
Christina Fraser 2, b.Ardclach, Nairnshire
Hugh Fraser 3 Months, b.Cawdor, Nairnshire
Margaret Fraser 68, mother, Road Contructor's Widow, b. Dores, Invernessshire
Margaret McKenzie 10, visitor, b Croy, Nairnshire
Address: Ardbreak, Cawdor
Monica
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Yes, thats them in 1861.I have found Isabella in 1851 at - Blackford! She is a lodger,unmarried aged 21 & a seamstress.Usually when a woman had a child out of wedlock the child was looked after by grandparents to enable her to continue working.I checked the IGI & found Isabel Kinnaird born 28 April 1829,christened 7 May 1829.Parents Alexander Kinnaird & Christian Rose.I have found Christina Kinnaird & her grandaughter Elexina Dunbar age 7,born in Ardclach, in Blackfold.
flst
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Well done flst, sounds like you found her! Also on the same page as Isabella in 1851 would look to be her mother and some siblings, all showing as born in Ardclach:
Christina Kennard 55, farmer of 3 acres
John Kennard 18
Christina Kennard 14
Address: Blackfold, Ardclach
Monica
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I think in 1871 Alexandrena has been indexed as Alexander ::) She is working as a domestic servant at Wyndend, Clunie perthshire, aged 17 and birth place showing as Ardeloch, Nairnshire.
Monica
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thanks for the help monicalesl and flst i now have a new root to go down i looked up the marriage on scotlands people but as far as i can make out she was not a witness
scot1
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At the time I suggested she might be a witness at her mother's marriage I did not know when that was. I think she would've been too young in 1859 but the names of witnesses are often useful clues for identifying family members. Have you managed to identify them?Glad you've managed to get this far,though!
Regards,
flst
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I looked up the marrige cer not a very clear cer but i think the witnesses were james petrie and ? fraser but there daughter christina fraser in on 1891 ,1901 ces as a petrie farmers widow
scot1