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Family History Documents and Artefacts => Family Bibles => Topic started by: Midman on Thursday 02 October 08 20:38 BST (UK)
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I have family bible for the Bulcock and Ingham families dating from just before 1790. There is on a page a list of family births to John and Alice Bulcock beginning with John born 25/8/1790 and going through to 1825.
On the reverse side of the page is a list of Ingham children beginning on 11/1/1832 with Hannah Ingham. The second child is John Bulcock Ingham born 1/12/1834. This child appears in later census reports and probably has modern descendants The Ingham entries end with Agnes Ingham but there are no birth details about her. Whoever wrote it, stopped writing when they had written her name.
I suspect the bible remained in the Bulcock family until the first Ingham entry. The reason I think this is, there is a red leather gold embossed name plate for John Bulcock 1816 on one page, which is before the first Ingham entry.
I would be happy to to return the bible to todays descendants if they get in touch with me. All the entries are in well written copperplate long hand.
Midman (Mm)
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This appears to be something that could be part of my family history. I, too, am John Bulcock, residing in the United States. Our ancestors trace back that far, at least, in England. My aunt and uncle have done the most research, I believe.
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Good to hear from you. I have had contact with a Claire Bulcok here in England, as they appear to be congregated around Blackburn in Lancashire, but she has no trace. There was a family of Inghams in a village about two miles from where I currently live, called Deighton in North Yorkshire. I suspect I aquired the bible from a local jumble sale a while back, but have not been able to trace that family. Would you like me to list the Bulcoks in the bible to see if you have a connection?
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I know loads of bulcocks and inghams. Loads of them here in east lancashire. I have a few Ingham ancestors myself from oakenhead wood in haslingden.
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Well Pete, you are a pleasant surprise! I no longer have the bible sadly as it was more than 200 years old and decaying beyond repair, and I had no where to keep it. I did however keep the front cover, and the page with the family births on. I do not know if it will successfully scan for e mail, but if you think it could be relevant, I can list the entries here for you. I would like to find a living relative to pass it to. The front cover has a red leather name patch on the inside very well preserved. It reads "John Bulcock 1816"
Chris
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Hello I am researching the Isherwood family of Gt.Mitton or Myton under Swale - North Yorks.
and have recently found a marriage of 1720 for a John Isherwood and Ann Bulcock at Myton upon Swale.
This Bullcock name also appears in the London area in St. Botolph, Bishopgate in the 1700's
If this helps.
Joan
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Hello I am researching the Isherwood family of Gt.Mitton or Myton under Swale - North Yorks.
and have recently found a marriage of 1720 for a John Isherwood and Ann Bulcock at Myton upon Swale.
This Bullcock name also appears in the London area in St. Botolph, Bishopgate in the 1700's
If this helps.
Joan
Hi Joan,
This could be a link to the family I have on the bible page. Myton is only about 15 miles from me, but there is about two generations seperating the Ann you have here and the Bulcocks I have. Do you have any more info. on Ann, such as who her father is and where he lives, or if she has siblings particualrly boys?
Thanks for your reply.
Chris
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Hello Chris. I have just been searching the IGI - and have found
Thomas bp 2/1/1721
John bp 31/10/1725
James bp 3/11/1728
There maybe a Henry somewhere -
All went to London and became Brewers, Distillers, Victuallers and made a lot of money.
And are all buried in St. Botolph, Bishopsgate, London. And made a name fore themselves
Henry ? became MP for Windsor
There is also a Ramsbottom connection with the Isherwood family - which is also very interesting.
When finding these baptisms they are entered twice Great Mitton / and Myton upon Swale
I presume they are the same, but what is the difference ?
There are a lot of the Bullcock family also buried in St. Botolph- for which I am trying to obtain M.I's
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Was the Bullcock family wealthy I wonder - what do you know about them.
I think Ann Bullcock was a daughter of Johis' Bullcock and baptised 1700 at Gisburn, Yorks.
Hope this helps. I am still looking for my Eliza c 1700
Joan
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Sorry - My Eliza was born c 1802
Joan
I presume the places of birth are not entered in your family bible.......
or baptisms...
Joan
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Joan,
You have not mentioned Eliza before, but no matter. Great Mitton and Gisburn are about five or six miles apart near Clitheroe in Lancashire, but the Myton Upon Swale is of interest as there is not much other evidence of Bulcocks around here.
I know nothing about this family, except for this page from the family bible. There are only names, dates and times of birth on the page, no places or other information. Have you come across the name Shuttleworth connected with the Bulcocks? The information on the paghe is from 1790 to the 1830's so later on than your current research. The Bulcocks who owned this bible may well have been well off, as the front cover has the gold embossed name of John Bulcock on it
Chris
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Hello Chris. I thought it was your family bible - I would think the Bulcocks were some somewhat 'well to do'
I hav'nt done a lot of research into the family, as I have only recently found this marriage. It is the Isherwoods I am really interested in, but I love research, and names. I tend to look into all and do a bit of research, hoping that I can find Eliza........ I know she was baptised in London - she married Richard Morris of the Household Cavalry...
I wonder why the two names Myton and Mitton are connected to each baptism.
I hav'nt a Shuttleworth, but connected to the Isherwoods was a Ramsbottom....... who were connected through the Brewery business in London and Windsor......
and both families buried in St. Botolph London. I shall keep your names in mind, and let you know if I find anything of interest. Have you advertised the bible in 'Family Tree' magazine.?
Joan
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Hi Joan,
I no longer have the bible, just the cover and inside page, as it was deteriorating too much to keep, and my local records office were not interested. From your writing I think you are maybe not in the UK sorry if I have that wrong.
Advertised this in newspapers, the Lancashire Family history society and on this site, and have drawn a few qureies like yours, but no positive luck so far. I did not know about the family tree magazine, is it connected to something like this site?
As I said Myton is not too far from here, and I think I aquired the bible from a jumble sale some years ago, and put it away and forgot about until recently when I had to clear out my loft. It would seem reason able that it was not too far for the family to travel to my village over the course of three or four generations and for it to survive from 1790 until the late 1900's when I aquired it.
Chris
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Me again. Have you tried Genforum.com? Also if you have a positive location, write a letter to the local paper for their tracer service and ask if there are any families of long standing in the area with the names you are looking for. Also, try the phone book for that area. My cousin found a number of names of one of our families where we might have expected them, and the first one I phoned produced a family tree.
Chris
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I am in Liverpool Chris. Family Tree is a magazine - monthly, and worldwide. You can put in an advert.
but a bit costly I think......
My Isherwood research took me to London, but I think I am not in the correct family. I know there are thousands in Lancs, and Ches. but, she married a Richard Morris - and with a name like that - very difficult. But, I found her baptism I think fairly recently. And her death and burial in London. It is just a little clue that her daughter was born in Clewer - Windsor where there was a well to do family.......not that that matters, but Windsor was the clue.
Her parents being James and Elizabeth It is'nt easy.
Thanks for being interested.
Joan
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Midman - please please please contact me if you receive this message, if possible I would love to speak with you on the phone regarding the Ingham, Bulcock family - is there a mention of Pendleton, Twiston, Gt Mearley, Wiswell, you will love the information I wish to impart to you, I do so hope you still have the bible pages, saying my prayers, I have become a member just to speak with you about this. So hope you get this message. x
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Hi Sharon,
I can imagine your anticipation as I have had a long and continuing search for relatives of the ancestors on this bible page. However I have to disappoint you about the other names you have listed, as the page only shows the birth dates, names and time of day for the two families, as they were apparently related by marriage at this point. If you can tarce a line back from you to either one of them I am happy to let you have the page and the front cover, which is all I have left. There is no facility for me to leave a phone number in my profile, I am not sure if you can use a facility on this site to send me a private message.
Chris
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Still digging - found this and also Butterworth nb family vault at Mytton, shall visit it this week to glean more information, sure we are on the right track, very exciting.
The Late Mr Thomas Bulcock
Saturday, June 17th 1882 , Blackburn Standard
The remains of Mr Thomas Bulcock, who died on the 6th inst., at his residence, Claremont House, after a short illness were interred in the family vault in the yard of Mytton Parish Church, on Saturday, shortly after noon. The deceased gentleman, who died at the age of 33 years, was the third son of the late Mr. Ambrose Bulcock, a large employer of labour in the town during an extended period, who was formerly a partner in the Brewery Mill, and afterwards became proprietor of the Victoria Mill. After his death the son named, who now, like his father has passed away, carried on the business for a short time and then retired into private life. By his genial manner and benevolent disposition he naturally formed a large circle of acquaintances, and his removal from amongst them they now deeply deplore, as by his death a void that cannot well be filled has been created. In religion he was a Churchman. In politics for many years he was an ardent supporter of the Liberal cause, but at the municipal elections in November last he came out in the character of an independent ccandidate. Although he was not returned as a member of the Council his poll was a very encouraging one. Had he lived it is probable that he would have solicited the suffrages of the burgesses in the Conservative interest at no distant date, as immediately after the contest he expressed, as the result of his experience in canvassing, sympathy with Conservative principles, and his intention of becoming a member of the local Conservative Association. The funeral was of a very unassuming kind, and was attended by relatives only. The Rec G B Ackerley, vicar, performed the burial service. The deceased gentleman leaves a wife and one child.
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Hi Sharon,
Sorry about the slow reply, have been in hospital for the last two weeks. Keep going.
Chris
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Hi ,
I am aware you have lots of interest in your bible cover, I have just seen your post. I have traced my family back to John & Alice Bulcock in Colne Lancashire (although their abode is given as Acronley - a few miles from Colne). They had a number of children but I have only found the ealier ones including Nancy Bulcock 1777, who my ggggg? grandmother). They also had a Bernard (twin of Namcy) and a John (1780- who may have died). I have tried to search all lancashire records to find another John Bulcock marrying an Alice around this time. But haven't had any luck. Do you think your John and Alice are mine?
(If you are on ancestry.com please look up my family tree to see the line (jillarmitage2000).- Taylor Family Tree.
Thanks for taking the time to red this.
Jill
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Hi Jill,
I think your family is about 30 to 40 years earlier than the details I have, as it apperas that the J
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Hi,
If you search for "Bulcock Ingham v Bulcock 1916" in google books you will find there was a court case to establish the male heirs of a Bulcock.
This was centered in Clitheroe and made a change in the law regarding wills. The Clitheroe/Whalley/Wiswell Bulcocks originally come from Pendle. I would imagine the branch recorded in the bible are descendants of the Ravensholme (near Downham/Pendle) Bulcocks. In the 1600s this branch were making trips to Virginia and had family in Barbados. They were originally Quakers. Robert Bulcock m Margaret Barcroft in 1660. They had 6 children - John, Sarah(married a Grimeshaw), Martha(married a Shuttleworth), Thomas, Robert and Benjamin. When Robert died in the 1680s his worth was around £1300 pounds, not a small sum at the time.The Bulcocks in Clitheroe carry these names along with the name Ambrose for many generations and are relations of the Ravensholme Bulcocks. The Clitheroe family were cotton mill owners in the 18th century.
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Hi I am interested in if you ever found a new owner for your bible. My wife is from the Bulcock line and her family married in to the Ingham family. Hannah Bulcock married Henry Ingham. Hannah was the daughter of Benjamin & Hannah Bulcock. She had at least 4 Brothers and a sister Betty (Elizabeth). As for Ingham's her sons where William Thomas Ingham & Benjamin Ingham.