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The town cemetery in Tranent opened in 1905, does anyone know where people were buried before then. I know there is the old Parish Church, but was there anywhere else. ?
Was there a Paupers field ?
Elaine
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Hi
There is a graveyard around the Parish Church in Tranent, as well as the new one. If you tell me who you are looking for I could look in the M.I. book for Tranent Churchyard.
Fiona
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i am looking for a great great gran and grandad who died in Tranent in 1898 and 1919. they were catholics so i am not sure which graveyard they would have been buried in - the one in Tranent or the catholic one in Edinburgh. is there any way to find out short of trailing along to Tranent and checking out the graveyards there stone by stone?? very grateful for any advice - Elizabeth
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Hi
I would think being Catholic would not stop them being buried in Tranent. According to my Memorial Inscription book(for the Parish Church Yard), the large district cemetry was opened in 1920.
There is also the possibility that there are no gravestones. I have ancestors dying in Tranent, but no stones to mark the graves.
You could perhaps enquire with the local registrar, but I think this costs money now.
Fiona
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Hi Fiona
Could you give me details of the Book Vol Issue No for the MIs - Tranent.
I should have some Johnston-Dodds- Skeldon there.
Thanks
Tricia
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Hi
I have the East Lothian Monumental Inscriptions, Westermost parishes (Tranent, Seton, Prestonpans, Prestonpans West & Ormiston Old Churchyard) The Inscriptions for Tranent Parish Churchyard were listed in June 2005.
There are no Dodds or Skeldons listed but quiet a few Johnstones. If you could give me a few more details I'll look.
East Lothian Monumental Inscriptions, Hillfoot Vilages (Garvald, Innerwick, Moreham, Oldhamstocks, Spott, Stenton, Whittinghame & yester) does have some Skeldons & Dod(d)s. Again if you have more specific names I will Look.
Fiona
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Hi fiona
If you have the Hillfoot villages details can you see if there are any blacks for spott and yester.
many thanks
andy
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Hi
I have the East Lothian Monumental Inscriptions, Westermost parishes (Tranent, Seton, Prestonpans, Prestonpans West & Ormiston Old Churchyard) The Inscriptions for Tranent Parish Churchyard were listed in June 2005.
There are no Dodds or Skeldons listed but quiet a few Johnstones. If you could give me a few more details I'll look.
East Lothian Monumental Inscriptions, Hillfoot Vilages (Garvald, Innerwick, Moreham, Oldhamstocks, Spott, Stenton, Whittinghame & yester) does have some Skeldons & Dod(d)s. Again if you have more specific names I will Look.
Fiona
Hi Fiona
Thanks for your offer. I found some entries at http://www.ejclark.force9.co.uk/index.htm
which covers some Stenton Prestonkirk and Whittinghame Burials:
SKELDON: I have found some of mine at Prestonkirk Cem
Prestonkirk Burial Ground. East Linton, SCT
Stone No. G276, Face: East
SACRED
TO THE MEMORY OF
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ADAM SKELDON
WHO DIED OCTOBER 16TH 1846
AGED 72 YEARS
ALSO HIS SPOUSE MARGARET DODDS
WHO DIED JANRY. 12TH 1841
AGED 59 YEARS
ALSO THEIR SON JOHN SKELDON
WHO DIED MARCH 21ST 1843
AGED 31 YEARS
ALSO THEIR SON ADAM SKELDON
WHO DIED DECEMBER 6TH 1842
AGED 21 YEARS
ALEXANDER SKELDON
DIED FEBRUARY 2ND 1888 AGED 72 YEARS
HIS WIFE ISABELLA ANDERSON
DIED 14TH JANUARY 1891 AGED 80 YEARS
DODDS is family of Margaret DODDS(aboved1841) who may have been b 1782 in Langton, Berwick. She is buried with husband but parents I believe to be Peter Dodds and Elizabeth Penny - not sure if they moved from Langton.
JOHNSTON is my important one however and several missing links which burial records could confirm. Family Born in both Tranent and Prestonpans. I have checked PrestonKirk and none so far link. Hoping to find elsewhere.
William JOHNSTON m Janet FORMAN born c 1730s.
Children James b1761, George b 1763, Jean 1765, Mary 1768, William 1774, Charlotte Hope, 1777.
Possible of course they moved out of area as did my Charles b 1777.
Also f you find any SCRIMGEOUR I would be interested.
Thanks
Tricia
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Hi Andy, Hi Tricia
Andy, no Black's mentioned in Spott, but 2 for Yester
Alexr Black tenant here d(__1787 75), Da Isabel 1796 6yr, son 1798 5m
Chas Black, d Knocklofty at Clonmell Ireland 21.6.1883 70, s Chas 26.1.1851, 6yr, da Elis 21.1.1851, 4yr, Gmo Elis Winter 24.3.1851 79, Widow margaret Dickson 15.8.1861, 48
Hi Tricia
Cannot see any of your Johnstones, but some of the really early stones may have been illegible.
Looked for your Dods in the books, also in Eastern Berwickshire which unfortunatly dosn't cover Langton but could find nothing.
Also nothing on Scrimegeor anywhere.
Sorry
Fiona
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thanks fiona
I'll have to see if these fit in somewhere
andy :)
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Hi Fiona
please could you check for William Burnside b1817/d1887,Elphinston,Tranent also his aunt Jean Bertram nee Burnside b1782/d1860 Elphinston,Tranent.I am interested in any Burnsides listed.many thanks
Fiona
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Fiona
Many thanks for looking for me.
Much appreciated
Tricia :)
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Hi Fiona g
Cannot see anything on your William or Jean. They may perhaps be buried in Gladsmuir, which is very near Elphinstone, but unfortunatly I don't know of any MI's published.
Other Burnsides are
Stenton
by Archd Burnside in memory of father Richard Burnside 8.5.1865 77yr (wife Jean Bell 16.11.1828 38, son John 26.8.1838 8yr,and 3 family died in infancy, 2nd wife Alison Elliot 12.3.1845, 51yr, daughter Janet 11.5.1886, 62yr, daughter Alison 11.4.1892, 80yr) Archd Burnside 18.7.1900, 64.
Innerwick
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father John Burnside, died thornton 10.4.1867, 76yr, mother Isabella Outerson, died Thornton 16.8.1875 83yr, by son Alexander(newphew Archd Welsh died Crowhill 17.8.1862, 16month) sister Marg Burnside died Tansy-bush 14.3.1898, 65yr
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by george Anderson died Redheugh 17.3.1901, 80yr, in memory of Elizabeth Burnside died Thorntonloch 19.4.1889, 64yr
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by John Watt, Spott in memory of neice Ann Watt Sanson 19.2.1858 7yr, sister marg Watt 8.9.1863, mother Cath Gow 22.6.1865, nephew John Watt Burnside, died Pinkerton 15.5.1870, Father John Watt 22.3.1881
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David Burnside 14.4.1919, 68yr, wife Mary Samson 22.9.1904 77yr, son Thos 11.3.1873 9yr.
These are all the Burnsides I can find in the books that I have, hope this helps some
Fiona
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many thanks for the look ups of the other Burnsides - no connection at the moment but maybe one day.
Fiona
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Hi Everyone,
I did try the MI for the Parish Church, but couldn't find anything I even walked round the churchyard (there are a lot of unmarked graves though) I was looking for some Stevensons and a Mary (Muir ) Benn who died 1905, I did find Stevensons, but not the ones I was looking for.
I wonder if there is a list anywhere of the unmarked graves.
There is a small cemetery in Elphinstone, but not sure where it is.
Anything in the town cemetery (after 1905) the Tranent town office has a list and is very helpful.
The Haddington history museum has a list for the Gladsmuir Church.
Elaine
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Hi Elaine
Elphinstone Cemetery is on Dalkeith rd nr Elphinstone Tower.A lady Rootschatters from the area kindly checked out the cemetery for me,feedback was a lot of the stones are laid flat with the MI facing the ground :'(.
You could email the East Lothian History Society,Haddington and ask about a list for unmarked graves,the Library are very helpful.
Fiona
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Fiona
Would you mind looking for the name FORMAN or FOREMAN.
I shouldn't think there would be many if any.
Tricia
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Fiona,
Thanks for the info., sad about about the Elphinstone cemetery stones.
I was in Haddington last month and visited the museum, they really are very helpful. What a lot of history in a small room.
I will check to see what information they have on Elphinstone.
Elaine
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Hi There,
Elphinstone cemetry is down the side of the village school. It is a small path with limited parking at the top. Make sure that you can your car.... it is narrow. Walk down about 500 yards and it is on the right hand side. When I looked a few weeks ago a lot of the stones had been laid flat, most with the inscriptions down. You also need to ook at the bushes as there are headstones in them.
Happy hunting, take care,
regards,
Lynda
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Lynda
I will be back in Tranent in a couple of months, Now I know where it is ,I can check it out.
Wonder if we can persuade anyone to get the cemetery back in order. There is a historical soc., in Tranent, perhaps they might be interested.
Thanks for the information
Elaine
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I am interested to know if the Church Cemetery of Tranent is indexed or if there is a listing. I am researching the Dow, Douglas and Boggie Families and believe that some of the family are buried at the cemetery.
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Hi Tricia
There is 1 stone mentioned in the Tranent MI for a George Forman died 8.3.1843 age 41and his wife Marion Bowman. Also on same stone George Forman 22.11.1823 51yrs and wife Ann Carr.
If these connect to you I can give you the full transcription.
Also 1 in Oldhamstocks James Forman 16.5.1841 77yr, wife Mary Trotter 1.6.1840 80yr.
Fiona
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Hi Dingaling
Had a wee look at my MI book for Tranent Church. There is 1 stone for a Jane Dow who was married to an Andrew Pearson. There is also 1 for a Hugh Douglas, born 1831.
Cannot see anything for Boggie.
If these are any good to you I can give you a full transcription as per book
Fiona
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Thanks Fiona
The Foreman MIs give me something solid to go on in my search for my Foreman in East Lothian.
Tricia
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I am interested to know if the Church Cemetery of Tranent is indexed or if there is a listing. I am researching the Dow, Douglas and Boggie Families and believe that some of the family are buried at the cemetery.
Hi Fiona,
Thank you for the information on the Dow/Pearson inquiry...I would love to have further details on the Headstone. Is there anything for a John Allan died 1912 or his wife Elizabeth Allan died 1911. Regards Dingaling
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Hi dingaling
The inscription reads
Andrew Pearson 26.1.1896 59yr, wife Jane Dow 1.8.1871 29yr, son James 15.12.18?5, wife Helen Willliamson 24.4.1918 74yr, daughter Jane Dow 13.12.1918 46yr, son Adam Dow 7.5.1925 58yr.
Hope that makes sense
Nothing on the Allan's
Fiona
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Thank you Caraid for the listings on the Dow Family all is very much appreciated.
Regarads Dingaling
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I have slotted the Pearson Dow Family that are listed in the MI Tranent Church Burials into my Dow Family Tree. Thank you for the entries... Could you please check on the Surname DOUGLAS. In a previous email the name Hugh Douglas did come up. May I have the burial details on Hugh or any other with the surname DOUGLAS..Kind Regards
Dingaling Oz
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Hi Dingaling
1 Douglas in Tranent
Ed 1894 by Hugh Douglas in memory of his father, mother two sisters. The elder sister is interred in Holywood, Dumfrieshire and other dear relatives interred in this parish. Above Hugh Douglas born 15.12.1831.
Sorry no names mentioned for father, mother etc, guess you've got your work cut out there.
Fiona
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Thank you Fiona for the information on Hugh Douglas b 1831 all is very much appreciated.
Regards
Dingaling
Oz
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Fiona, If you are still able and willing to look for MIs in Tranent and other western parishes of East Lothian, I would be very grateful to know if there are any Herriot, Whitecross or Watt entries. My G.G.G. grandfather John Herriot was a servant at Taylors Mains (which seems to be at the location shown as Seton West Mains on modern maps) in Tranent. Later he was a grocer in Prestonpans. The Whitecross and Watt families lived in Tranent and other nearby parishes, although earlier Whitecross ancestors apparently came from further east (Haddington, North Berwick, etc.). Many thanks, Bob
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Hi
I have the East Lothian Monumental Inscriptions, Westermost parishes (Tranent, Seton, Prestonpans, Prestonpans West & Ormiston Old Churchyard) The Inscriptions for Tranent Parish Churchyard were listed in June 2005.
There are no Dodds or Skeldons listed but quiet a few Johnstones. If you could give me a few more details I'll look.
East Lothian Monumental Inscriptions, Hillfoot Vilages (Garvald, Innerwick, Moreham, Oldhamstocks, Spott, Stenton, Whittinghame & yester) does have some Skeldons & Dod(d)s. Again if you have more specific names I will Look.
Fiona
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Hi Bob
Heriot stones in Tranent
Robert Wilson, publican 22.11.1867 54yr & wife Jane Heriot 27.10.1884 72yr(if yours there is children too)
also a stone with a Mary Ferme and husband Wm Heriot
also David Heriot 13.7.1903 60yrs, by widow
Watt stones in Tranent
David Watt & wife May Liddle
David Watt & wife Marg Patterson (these stones are together)
Rev. Robert Watt UP church minister
Andrew Watt & wife Catherine Ferguson
Prestonpans Churchyard
Mary Whitecross & husband Adam Prentice
Peter Whitecross & wife Cath Anderson (these 2 stones together)
James Cunningham & wife Marg Whitecross
If you need any of these fully transcribed give me a shout. going for an ankle op tmorrow and will be off work for about 6-8 weeks so will have plenty of time to sit in front of computer reading books etc
Fiona
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Thanks very much, Fiona, for your speedy response. Unfortunately I do not know of any link between my own forebears and any of these Herriots, Whitecross's and Watts. Good luck with your ankle operation. Thanks again!
Bob
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I am researching the George Forman family mentioned by Caraid in reply #17 as having a Monument at Tranent. We are direct descendants and still bear the name. I was thrilled to have this information as it is another confirmation of the names of the parents for me. Is it possible to get a full transcription? Thanks S.
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Hi Serene
Transcription for George Forman
198 Large triptych stone.
Geo FORMAN d Levenhall 8.3.1843 41yrs...much respected...by w Marion BOWMAN d Levenhall 29.9.1888 83yrs, da Cath 12.5.1844 2yrs, s Jas drowned at sea when homeward bound from Australia 25.4.1860 25yrs.
(left side) Geo FORMAN 22.11.1823 51yrs, w Ann CARR 18.4.1827 49yrs
(right side) Geo FORMAN, da Ann d Levenhall 2.1.1897 62yrs, s Geo d Melbourne, Australia 1904 78yrs, s Peter d Levenhall 1.4.1905 77yrs, da Bethia d Levenhall 1.10.1907 68yrs.
Hope this helps some
Fiona
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Thanks so much Fiona,
this is indeed our ancestors. Our George is the one who died in 1904 Melbourne. His brother James must have visited them or traveled with them so now I will check the passenger lists again. They arrived in Melbourne January 1st 1855, with a 3 day old baby who was the next generations George!!
There is such a lot of detail about the family here and as I had census details about their whereabouts and livelihoods this adds to the picture I had of the family.
I have a photo of the Marion Bowman mentioned. She is the Mrs Forman of the current Mrs Forman's Inn at Inveresk.
I had no idea where they might have been buried and as we are in Australia hadn't thought it would be likely I would ever find out.
What a super site this is. If I can be of any help to anyone researching I am happy to try. You are Marvellous . S
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Just a wee footnote there....my husbands late mother was the manager of Mrs Formans in the 1970's.....what a small world
Lynda
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Thanks Lynda for the comment re Mrs Forman's. She must have been quiet a personality to run the place for 40 years or more after George died. Sue
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We live in Tranent, so I will try and go and get a picture of the stone for you..
Do you have a picture of the pub?
Lynda
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Lynda, a photograph would be fantastic. I was reluctant to even ask if anyone could see if it was still standing. We did a Google search and there is a photo of the inn on a list of restaurants and pubs in the Inveresk area. We also have one about circa 1924. I also have a photo of this Mrs Forman nee Marion Bowman.
I notice you have Blyth listed in you family list. I have a GGG grandmother a Lilias Blyth daughter of James Blyth sailor, and Agnes Lownie of Newburgh, Fife. Is there any connection?
I await you photographic endevours, best wishes
Sue
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Dear All
I hope you don't mind me joining in this chat, but I am keen to get hold of a pic Mrs Marion Forman nee Bowman.
I am currently refurbishing Mr Formans Public House and the Pubs history is going to play a big part in our re launch.
I would also like to know where and when George Forman and Marion got married, its the missing bit of info on our Pubs story.
Naturally if anyones intrested in other aspects of the pubs history I will be only to happy to help.
Kindest regards
John
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Hi Landlord,
I could not send you a private email, however, George Foreman and Marion owman married at Duddingstone Edinburgh, on 14.07/1826. I would be happy to help you in your research for your pub. I only live a few minutes away in Prestonpans.
Regards,
Lynda
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Hi Lynda
Having that date is a great start, thank you.
As you pointed out I'm not able to send personal messages on the site just yet, would you help me track down a photo of Mrs Forman nee Bowman by contacting some of the above members?
The other missing bit of info - when did the pub come out of Forman ownership?
Appreciate your help on this Lynda, Fiona and I hope to welcome you to the new look Mrs Forman's in a month or two.
Thank you again
John
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Hi John,
You just need to post another message and I can email you with some info.
Regards,
Lynda
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Mrs Foreman died in 1888, and as far as I can see her daugther Bethia died in 1/10/1907 at Levenhall. As Levenhall was the area around the public house, I assume that she may have been the last Foreman to have lived there....however, I am sure that someone out there may know
betterwww.northberwick.org.uk/musselburgh.html
Have a look at this site...you may find i interesting
regards,
Lynda
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Hi Lynda
Thank you I know the site well, the Formans had 4 daughters and 4 sons; Bethia was there youngest daughter at the time of the 1841 census she was 3 years old. however i have feel it stayed in Forman ownership (landlord) after Bethia death but with somone else (tenant) at the helm Here's what i have so far....
In the early 1820’s with its race course and the increasing patronage of the finest golf clubs and societies of the day, Musselburgh Links was becoming a very busy place. In 1822 George Forman a young man from near by Prestonpans purchased a piece of land on the edge of the Links that neighboured Blucher Hall. On his newly acquired land, the shrewd George built a public house to provide refreshments to those enjoying the Links.
In the summer of 1826 George took a wife, marrying Marion Bowman at Duddingstone, Edinburgh; it is this Mrs Forman from which the pub is to take its name. Together they made a great success of the Links side business with the little pub becoming famous for its window, through which it served the needs of thirsty golfers. The marriage proved to be a success on all fronts; fifteen years later the 1841 census shows the Forman’s had eight children, four boys and four girls; the youngest being one year old Charles and the eldest fourteen year old George Jnr, already apprenticed to a cabinetmaker.
Just two years later in 1843 George died at the age of 41, leaving his wife Marion with eight children and a pub to look after. It’s likely at this point the pub would have become known as Mrs Forman’s; before George’s death it may have been known simply as Forman’s.
In 1888 aged 83 Marion Forman died leaving her children to take over the running of the pub where it remained in their care well into the following century. With over sixty years at the bar and with the help of her family, Marion Forman unknowingly put her pub into the history books as one of the most famous buildings in the game of golf.
Since opening its doors in 1822, Mrs Forman’s went onto serve without bias both Lord and Caddie and welcomed some of the greatest champions in the game of golf, Willie Park Snr and Jnr, Young and Old Tom Morris, Harry Vardon and Bobby Jones to name but a very few. If walls could talk!
If you can add to this or spot any mistakes could you let me know
Thank you
John
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Hi Fiona:
I'm new at this. I am looking for Inneses buried in or around Tranent mid-19th century. Do you know of any?
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Hi Caraid,
Found your correspondence re Tranent Cemetery. I am looking for information on Andersons who are buried in Tranent. I am trying to trace information on the Anderson family who lived at 19 Church Street in Tranent at the beginning if the 20th century.
Any help appreciated,
Hi Fiona g
Cannot see anything on your William or Jean. They may perhaps be buried in Gladsmuir, which is very near Elphinstone, but unfortunatly I don't know of any MI's published.
Other Burnsides are
Stenton
by Archd Burnside in memory of father Richard Burnside 8.5.1865 77yr (wife Jean Bell 16.11.1828 38, son John 26.8.1838 8yr,and 3 family died in infancy, 2nd wife Alison Elliot 12.3.1845, 51yr, daughter Janet 11.5.1886, 62yr, daughter Alison 11.4.1892, 80yr) Archd Burnside 18.7.1900, 64.
Innerwick
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father John Burnside, died thornton 10.4.1867, 76yr, mother Isabella Outerson, died Thornton 16.8.1875 83yr, by son Alexander(newphew Archd Welsh died Crowhill 17.8.1862, 16month) sister Marg Burnside died Tansy-bush 14.3.1898, 65yr
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by george Anderson died Redheugh 17.3.1901, 80yr, in memory of Elizabeth Burnside died Thorntonloch 19.4.1889, 64yr
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by John Watt, Spott in memory of neice Ann Watt Sanson 19.2.1858 7yr, sister marg Watt 8.9.1863, mother Cath Gow 22.6.1865, nephew John Watt Burnside, died Pinkerton 15.5.1870, Father John Watt 22.3.1881
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David Burnside 14.4.1919, 68yr, wife Mary Samson 22.9.1904 77yr, son Thos 11.3.1873 9yr.
These are all the Burnsides I can find in the books that I have, hope this helps some
Fiona
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Hi Sharkman
Could you be more specific on names, especially forenames, as Anderson's were quiet common in East Lothian.
Cariad
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Hi Innes
Not many Inness's around, forenames would help
Caraid
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Fiona, could you check if there are any Meek's in there, and oblige....Skoosh.
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Hi
Sorry, no Meek's in any of the East Lothian M.I. books
Caraid
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Many Thanks Caraid! you're a pal! literally!....Skoosh.
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Hi Cariad,
I am looking for a David Anderson and his wife Jane n. Chalmers, married in 1863 and their parents
John and Jane Anderson, n. Buchanan and Andrew and Margaret Chalmers n. Borthwick
Any info much appreciated
Hi Sharkman
Could you be more specific on names, especially forenames, as Anderson's were quiet common in East Lothian.
Cariad
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Hi Sharkman
Sorry, none of those names mentioned in the MI book, doesn't mean they are not buried there, just no Headstones. May be that the Headstone was illegible at time of survey, or there never was a Headstone.
Happy Hunting anyway
Caraid
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Hi Caraid,
Thanks for checking this for me. Saved me a lot of time at the churchyards. On with the hunt!
Hi Sharkman
Sorry, none of those names mentioned in the MI book, doesn't mean they are not buried there, just no Headstones. May be that the Headstone was illegible at time of survey, or there never was a Headstone.
Happy Hunting anyway
Caraid
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Hi Sue,
Lillias Blyth is also my husband's GGG Grandmother. I'm happy to exchange the information I have.
Clare
Lynda, a photograph would be fantastic. I was reluctant to even ask if anyone could see if it was still standing. We did a Google search and there is a photo of the inn on a list of restaurants and pubs in the Inveresk area. We also have one about circa 1924. I also have a photo of this Mrs Forman nee Marion Bowman.
I notice you have Blyth listed in you family list. I have a GGG grandmother a Lilias Blyth daughter of James Blyth sailor, and Agnes Lownie of Newburgh, Fife. Is there any connection?
I await you photographic endevours, best wishes
Sue
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Hi ,
Unfortunately your Blyths are not the same as our Blyths. Ours are David Blyth and hail from leith....master bakers and metal workers I think.... however I do think that they may have originated from Fife before 1800 but not taken them back that far as yet...always getting led into something else....
regards,
Lynda
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Hi Cariad,
If your kind offer of look ups in Tranent Cemetery is still available, I am looking for members of the Craise family including George Craise, born in Tranent in 1833. Any MI information on the Craises would be very welcome.
Robert
Morrison;McDonald;Campbell;Sutherland;Waters;Archibald, Ireland (the name) ;Torrens;Wilson;Craise;Purves;Black;Coalston
Caithness;Renfrewshire;East Lothian;Fife;Ireland
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Hi Robert
Tranent MI only has 1 mention of Craise
Mural (broken) by Alexr GRIEVE, smith in Tranent in memory of wife Christina BARRIE 24. 11. 1862 45yrs. Above Alexr GRIEVE died 17. 3. 1880. Also wife Sophie CRAISE 17. 11. 188? (looks like he was wed twice)
No more Craise I'm afraid, have u tried FreeCen & FreeReg.
Caraid
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Hi Caraid,
Thanks for the information. I am almost certain that the Sophia Craise mentioned is the niece of my 3x great Grandmother Agnes Craise. Agnes had a brother George who was born in Gifford and who married Elizabeth Hood. in Gifford. They had a daughter, Sophia, who was born about 1825 and would therefore have been about forty in the 1860s when Alex Grieve might well have been about the same age judging by the information on the MI. I will have a look on ScotlandsPeople for the marriage post 1862. George and Elizabeth are on the 1841 and 1851 Census returns for Tranent. Sophia had a brother George, born 1833 in Tranent and he appears there in the 1881 census.
I had not done much with this branch of the Craise family but will now hopefully go and fill in the missing pieces. Ever the optimist.
Thanks again.
Robert
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Hi Robert
Do you think Sophia could be a Family name associated with the Craise Family. If so there are a few more in the Hillfoot Villages MI
Yester
David BELL precentor in this church died 25. 9. 1834 72yrs, wife Eliz LAUDER 17. 2. 1820 60yrs, son John (wife Sofia CRAISE 23. 4. 1888 84yr, children Ann & Eliz died infancy)
Stenton
Jane FORREST died Stenton 15. 2. 1833 86yrs, husband David PURVES 19. 5. 1842 96yr, Andrew PURVES baker Stenton, daughter Agnes 19. 1 1834 13yr, daughter Sopia 26. 12. 1837 26yr, wife Sophia CRAISE 30. 11. 1850 75yr, daughter Eliz 9. 10. 1856 34yr.
(ps. don't have any MI for Gifford)
Caraid
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Hi Caraid
Yes Sophia in the Craise family goes back to a Sophia Fleming of Haddington, born 1720. She married George Black and one of their daughters, Sophia Black, subsequently married James Craise of Yester. This union spawned Craise children with most of the siblings continuing the Sophia name for the next generations. The name continued for daughters in marriages such as into Purves. It has been a very useful marker.
Thanks for the MIs although I had previously found these on the net. As for Gifford I have transcribed the Craises from the actual headstones where legible. I have found the study of my Craise line keeps throwing up unexpected links to other bits of the family.
I have now found the marriage of Sophia Craise to Alexander Grieve in SP. They married in Tranent in 1864. I also found that she was born in Longformacus, Berwickshire as shown in the 1861 Census.
Robert
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Hi Caraid,
I maybe should have mentioned that Craise is sometimes spelled differently, for example as Crease, Crais, Craes or other variations. In fact the Tranent family is spelled as Crease in the 1861 Census.
Robert
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Looking for Thomas Ewart, passed January 28, 1818. Wife Janet Clark
Thank You !!
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Hi
Cannot see any Ewart, in the MI books I have, sorry
Caraid
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I would like to know if someone can help me find out if someone is buried in Tranent Cemetery.
The name is Mary Cullen and her date of death is 18/5/1899. Her husband was Owen Cullen,and her father was James McGowan and her mother was Mary nee Confrey/Conifrey. I believe the church may have been that of St. Martins of Tours.
It may be probable that there is no headstone, but if I can find out for definite that she is buried in there it would be a great help.
Thanks for any help.
Lizzy
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I dont remember seeing a cemetery at St Martins.... probably buried either in Tranent cemetery or Gladsmuir.....
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thanks for getting back so quickly, I believe that she would be buried in Tranent Cemetery as it is the catholic one, I would like to know where I can find out for sure where she is buried. I believe also that there are quite a few Cullens buried there.
Lizzy
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The Tranent cemetery CoS one within the church on the hill going down to the Prestonpans Road. Will phone my freind tomorow and ask her...What she dont know and all that.....
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hi lyndyloo6,
I believe if any Cullens are in a graveyard, it would be the one that is not attached to the Church of Scotland , as they were Catholics, I spoke to the beadle of the church there, and he said to go to the cemetery at the bottom of the road, and then round the roundabout, if you know what I mean, I did that and went into the cemetery, but due to ill - health, I wasn't able to go round the whole place, and then again, there may not be a headstone, which is why I would like to know if they would have a register of burials in the churchyard.
Thanks once again for your help, hope to hear more from you
Lizzy
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There is a local history office in Haddington East Lothian I will try and find out e mail address for you I have found them very helpful
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Thanks very much, any info is greatly appreciated, look forward to hearing from you
Lizzy
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Hi ,
Try localhistory[at][/blue]eastlothian.gov.uk (Replace [at] with @)
Good Luck
Betsy
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Hi
I have the East Lothian Monumental Inscriptions, Westermost parishes (Tranent, Seton, Prestonpans, Prestonpans West & Ormiston Old Churchyard) The Inscriptions for Tranent Parish Churchyard were listed in June 2005.
There are no Dodds or Skeldons listed but quiet a few Johnstones. If you could give me a few more details I'll look.
East Lothian Monumental Inscriptions, Hillfoot Vilages (Garvald, Innerwick, Moreham, Oldhamstocks, Spott, Stenton, Whittinghame & yester) does have some Skeldons & Dod(d)s. Again if you have more specific names I will Look.
Fiona
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Hi,
I believe I have some family buried in the old Cemetery, Tranent Parish. The surname is Bryson. Peter would have died 1815 or earlier. Do not know who his wife was but his daughter. Catherine, married William Hogg in 1815. Any information will be appreciated
Regards,
Julia
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Hi
Had a look at my book and I could not find anything on the names and dates you asked for,
Sorry
Fiona
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Hello Caraid
I have just joined Rootschat so am new to the experience! I am struggling with my Smiths of Tranent.
I have just scrawled down on the thread of Tranent Cemetery and can see how helpful you have been to a lot of people, so I wondered if you can give me any help.
My 3xgreat grandmother Isabella died between 1861/71 and her husband William who was a shoemaker of High St, Tranent died between 1881/91.
Isabella's family name was Gavine according to her parish marriage entry. Are there any Gavines in the churchyard or cemetery I wonder.
I am keen to follow up on the Gavine name as it has been handed down in the family as a middle name. I don't know if they were Tranent people, but Isabella's father was a miller at Brunslain or Brunstain Mill.
Any little info you can give me would be wonderful.
Poppy10
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Was wondering if you are still doing Tranent Parish MI look ups if you would be kind enough to do a quick one for me. My gg grandmother, Sarah Black ms Telfer or Telford died in Church Street in 1928 as did her daughter Jessie Black in 1902/03. Any help would be appreciated.
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Hi Fiona
I would appreciate it if you would look for my ancestor Stephen BROTHERSTONE in the Tranent Cemetery MIs. He died on 29 Aug 1797 in the massacre. His wife's name was Margaret THOMSON. Perhaps she is also buried there after this date. Two of their children were Betty (b1778) and John (b 1780) who I don't have any other info on.
Lois
BC, Canada
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Hi Folks
Sorry for late replies
Poppy10 - sorry no mention of these name,. and no
Gavines
Rindercella - No matching names, don't know when the last burials were at old Churchyard, but the large district churchyard was opened in 1920.
Lous_Moon - No mention of a gravestone, just a listing in the Notes at end of book.
Fiona
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That's a shame but many thanks, Fiona, for having a look.
Karen
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Thanks Fiona
Re my Stephen Brotherstone, is his wife Margaret Thomson listed, or any clue that she was his wife? Trying to confirm that this is 'our' Stephen.
We really appreciate your doing these look-ups.
Lois Moon and cousins
In BC Canada
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Thank you for looking for the Smiths in the cemetery. They were definitely resident in Tranent in the censuses on High Street, and after Isabella died William was still resident there with his spinster daughter Margaret until the 1881 census then I couldn't find him on the 1891.
So I wonder where they were buried.
I didn't hold out much hope for the Gavines, I can't trace them at all. Just father on Isabella's (the daughter of Isabella and William) wedding cert at Tranent who was down just as .....Gavine, miller at Bruslain Mill.
Thank you once again.
Poppy10
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Hi
No Margaret Thomson listed neither, apart from OPR's or Church Records I don't know how you will go about proving they are yours.
Some of my Husbands families were living in Tranent & surrounding areas, but very few seem to have Stones. Lots of people were buried in graveyards but could not afford memorials, which makes it harder for us to find them,
Fiona
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not sure if this might be related. i have a john dickson married to a janet brotherstone 1 jun 1764 Liberton they were living at cranston in 1769 and had a daughter jean.
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Hi Fiona.
Please could you look up in your MI book, Robert White d 24/3/1884 E. Fenton and Jessie Fraser d 7/44/1864 Seton.
Thank you
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Hi
I wonder can anyone point me in the right direction please, I am trying to trace the burial site of my Grt Grt grandparents. I know they both died in Tranent, my Grt Grt Grandfather was James Watt, Blacksmith born 1805 died 1877 and Grt Grt Grandmother was Margaret Hay born 1804 and died 1881 - according to her death certificate she died a pauper :'( . They married Nov 1833 if that will help.
I don't know where to start looking to find out burial sites so any help would be gratefully appreciated.
Many Thanks
Hazel.
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Hi:
I am trying to find my relatives that were in the Tranent area. Specifically, Christian Knox (b. about 1765) that married Alexander MacKenzie. I am also looking for her parents who I believe are John Knox and Christian Bleaky - I would appreciate it if you could look at the MI from Tranant.
Thank you in advance.
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Hi, just come across this website, my great grandad John Henderson died in a mining accident on the 10th Aug 1898, he lived in Tranent and i wondered where he would have been buried ?
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Hi
I wonder can anyone point me in the right direction please, I am trying to trace the burial site of my Grt Grt grandparents. I know they both died in Tranent, my Grt Grt Grandfather was James Watt, Blacksmith born 1805 died 1877 and Grt Grt Grandmother was Margaret Hay born 1804 and died 1881 - according to her death certificate she died a pauper :'( . They married Nov 1833 if that will help.
I don't know where to start looking to find out burial sites so any help would be gratefully appreciated.
Many Thanks
Hazel.
Hazel:
Could you let me know a bit more about your Margaret Hay? I also have a Margaret Hay (1817-1887) who married Alexander MacKenzie (1815-1891). They were married in Kilfinan, Argyll, Scotland, but I believe from what my great grandmother told me, she was born in Hopeman, Moray, Scotland. However, my MacKenzie family was from the Tranent and North Berwick areas so I am not sure. I am confident of the marriage date and location as Alexander was a gardener and traveled extensively.
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Hi Derek,
The existing Tranent Cemetery only opened 1905, so it may have been the Old Parish church, but it could be the case, there are no stone for him.
Tom
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Hi Derekhendo ,
Think you hit the Report to Moderator button instead of the Reply button when thanking Tom for his reply.
ev
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Derek
I saw your post about your great-grandfather John Henderson being killed in a mining accidsnt in 1898.
I was just wondering if you've seen the Scottish Mining website which has an index of mining accidents. Your great-grandfather is listed, with a description of the accident. Just do a Google search for "Scottish Mining" and you'll find the site.
Regards
David
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Peter Bryson: born 1740 Died 1819
Married to Jean Waddell Nottman born 1743 died 1819
Married 25 November 1765 at Tranent, East Lothian.
Catherine Bryson (Wife of William Hogg) born 1784 Died in 1884
Hi,
I believe I have some family buried in the old Cemetery, Tranent Parish. The surname is Bryson. Peter would have died 1815 or earlier. Do not know who his wife was but his daughter. Catherine, married William Hogg in 1815. Any information will be appreciated
Regards,
Julia
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Hi ,
On the posting you have quoted caraid said she could find nothing on this family .
I doubt if that will have changed since then .
Jessie
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I don't know if this thread is still active, but I am wondering if anyone can find a grave for my great aunt Noeleen Elizabeth Patterson who I think died in 1989 in Tranent. She was in her 90's and single and I think she had lived there for some time so my feeling is that she would have been quite a local character.
If anyone can suggest where I might search for an obituary I would also be very grateful.
Thanks
Bev
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Peter Bryson was born in 1740. He married Jean Waddell Notman on 25 November 1765 in Tranent, East Lothian Scotland.
Their first two children were: Jean Bryson and John Bryson both born on 12 September 1766 in Tranent, East Lothian.
Their third child was Alexander Bryson. He was born 11 April 1771 in East Lothian.
Next came Peter Bryson junior. He was born 2 June 1778 in East Lothian.
On 15 August 1781 they had a daughter named Isabell Bryson.
On 24 January 1784 they had a daughter named Catharine Bryson.
In 1787 they have a son named Archibald.
Peter Bryson passed away in 1819 Tranent.
I have no burial information on him.
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Could I possibly see a copy of that photo of Marion? Is it the same one used on this website? - http://www.scottishgolfhistory.org/news/mrs-formans-is-no-more/
I have an oil painting of an old lady in her 70/80's by the painter Robert Gemmell Hutchison (Mrs Formans son in law) and I am trying to rule out Mrs Marion Forman as the sitter. It might also be of her sister Margaret Bowman (Born circa 1815 in Portobello) about whom I know nothing or possibly Marion's daughter Mary born around 1836 whom I also know nothing about.
Any help would be appreciated.