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Title: mateer family around dromara/legananny/seapatrick
Post by: alanjack on Tuesday 28 October 08 17:25 GMT (UK)
hi all

Firstly i'm new here so hopefully this went to the right forum.anyway...i'm trying to trace my family roots as far back as  i can.have traced my G.G.G Father  Henry mateer of legananny back to about 1830's...altho i have info on him..no birth date or death date or indeed any marriage.i do know that he had 1 son(that i know off) james died april 1892 lisnod..i have james being married to a elizabeth patterson in 1854( am also trying to trace the patterson side too)..they had 2 sons david mateer(whom i have details on )..and a william mateer who seems to have got lost here..maybe moved away as the trace goes cold.

the area that they all came from seems to be around dromara/legananny/seapatrick area.if anyone has any info on henry or even william etc i would be very grateful.

or even any ideas to what i do next.
thanks
alan
Title: Re: mateer family around dromara/legananny/seapatrick
Post by: BallyaltikilliganG on Tuesday 28 October 08 23:21 GMT (UK)
To help its useful to know whether you have already looked and exhausted for instance
/freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/SURNAMES/M/MatMaz.htm#mat
eg James MATIER
MATEER  . Drumgooland of Legananny; a farmer; son of Henry Mateer; married Elizabeth Patterson of Finnis 31 Jul 1854 in Dromara 1st Presbyterian Church, witnesses were Adam Morrison & Robert Martin; father of David b. 7 Apr 1868 & William b. 12 Mar 1871 (regd. Ballyward)
Dromara 1st Presbyterian Church Records from 1763, for records see Batch # C700041 on www.familysearch.org; graveyard attached, oldest gravestone 1769; gravestone inscriptions Vol 19 UHF; email me for a gravestone look-up
Raymonds county down website
www.emeraldancestors.com
www.ancestryireland.co.uk
www.familysearch.com
www.ulsterancestry.com

Good luck you have done well already, Jim
Title: Re: mateer family around dromara/legananny/seapatrick
Post by: TF13 on Wednesday 29 October 08 02:47 GMT (UK)
hi, welcome to rootschat,this looks like another son,

francis mateer(male) born 6-aug-1873
father-james mateer
mother-elizabeth patterson
sub district-ballyward
district-banbridge.

tony
Title: Re: mateer family around dromara/legananny/seapatrick
Post by: alanjack on Wednesday 29 October 08 17:52 GMT (UK)
hi all

i didnt think i would get any replies....but i like to say thanks for all the info.im glad i joined this site as there seems to quite afew folk here willing to help others.will done my friends...many many thanks.

yes i have used http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/SURNAMES/M/MatMaz.htm.....
am trying to find more out on proni and  on familysearch.com.

i like to thank the person who found the other son...which i think is right..there maybe others that i unaware off.what id like to know...is how the heck did you find that out mate lol..

many many thanks again
Title: Re: mateer family around dromara/legananny/seapatrick
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 29 October 08 18:20 GMT (UK)
4 sons of James Mateer and Elizabeth Patterson listed in IGI:
1. Robert born 4 Feb.1866 Ballyward district, Co. Down
2. David born 7 Apr.1868 Co. Down
3. Francis born 6 Aug.1873 Co. Down
4. Joseph born 3 Mar.1876 Banbridge district, Co. Down
Title: Re: mateer family around dromara/legananny/seapatrick
Post by: alanjack on Wednesday 29 October 08 18:30 GMT (UK)
hi aghadowey

many thanks for that info...one question...what is IGI??

Title: Re: mateer family around dromara/legananny/seapatrick
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 29 October 08 18:38 GMT (UK)
IGI= International Genealogical Index. See www.familysearch.org
Title: Re: mateer family around dromara/legananny/seapatrick
Post by: alanjack on Wednesday 29 October 08 19:45 GMT (UK)
 HI BallyaltikilliganG

thank you for the info you give me..now i will have my hands full trying to  find out whos who from that big list...much appreciatted.
i just like to say i big thank you from me to all who helped me in any way....now ive got my hands full trying to figure out all the information thats being given to me..and if anyone out there needs any help and if i can help please let me know as i do spend a few hours here every night(much to the wifes annoyance lol)
alan
Title: Re: mateer family around dromara/legananny/seapatrick
Post by: lotsahunters on Tuesday 13 June 17 01:06 BST (UK)
Hi Alan,

I am seeking information on the Armstrong and Martin lines, both from Legananny. there is an old lease for the Martins in Legananny to a Robert Martin in December 1799 for three lives in succession to the late heirs of Henry Matier, lives on the lease Robert Martin aged 21 years, John Martin aged 16 years, both sons of Robert Martin, the lessee and a Hugh Telford, Leitrim aged 7 years. This suggests the Martins came from Leitrim, but is also of intrest in regards to your post.  I'm wondering if we could share information. It's possible these two lines will merge. My dates are a bit earlier than yours though.

Becky
Title: Re: mateer family around dromara/legananny/seapatrick
Post by: BallyaltikilliganG on Tuesday 13 June 17 08:06 BST (UK)
was Hugh Telford the son of a Martin daughter or even a Matier?
was Hugh Telford the son of Hugh TELFORD Drumgooland who farmed in Leitrim in 1803 LDR=Live & Deadstock Returns of 1803- an agricultural census some transcribed by Rebekah Drew available at PRONI  from Ros Davies Co Down website

John   MARTIN   .   Drumgooland   farmed in Leitrim in 1803   LDR {again!}
John   MARTIN   .    Drumgooland   of Leitrim; will probated 1813   IIW V4 p108
Robert   MARTIN   .   Drumgooland   of Closkelt; will probated 1722   IIW V4 p109
Robert   MARTIN   .   Drumgooland   of Decomet; will dated 1817 & lodged 1837   IIW V4 p109
Robert   MARTIN   junior   Drumgooland   of Legananny; will probated 1828   IIW V4 p109
Robert   MARTIN   .   Drumgooland   of Decomet; will probated 1838   IIW V4 p109
Robert   MARTIN   senior   Drumgooland   of Legananny; will probated 1853   IIW V4 p109
I will stop there assuming you know all these references many sadly with originals destroyed
Title: Re: mateer family around dromara/legananny/seapatrick
Post by: lotsahunters on Thursday 22 June 17 05:17 BST (UK)
was Hugh Telford the son of a Martin daughter or even a Matier?
was Hugh Telford the son of Hugh TELFORD Drumgooland who farmed in Leitrim in 1803 LDR=Live & Deadstock Returns of 1803- an agricultural census some transcribed by Rebekah Drew available at PRONI  from Ros Davies Co Down website

I am not sure who Hugh Telford is. My guess is his mother is a Matier. There is a good chance he's Hugh Telford's son. I also suppose that Robert Martin married a Matier. That would connect the two families. Right now I have Robert Martin with a Rose Morgan, but their Robert was christened 12 years later than the Robert Martin named in the 1799 lease, so there's some question as to whether Robert and Rose were the family that moved to Legananny. If Leitrim is like any where else I've researched, there's a good chance there were several Robert Martin's close in age, as this family adhered to the naming rituals of the day.

I'll respond again as I am able. I have a lot going on this summer. i am familiar with many of the references you made, but not all of them. I had Robert Martin Sr. as the son of Robert Martin Jr, but now I'm questioning that. How likely is it that Robert Martin Sr. lived to be 93 or older?

Thanks for your help!
Becky