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Title: Richard james Rolfe
Post by: spec on Monday 03 November 08 20:42 GMT (UK)
Hi please could anyone help me  :)
My great uncle Richard James Rolfe apparently
went to Australia i think in 1908 to Brisbane???
He joined the Australian army and was killed
in the first world war
he was born in either Hungerford or Great Shefford
Berkshire England and was the son of Edwin and
Mary Ann Rolfe(nee Brown)
he apparently had a wife named Florence and am
unsure if she went out to Australia with him
Many thanks Regards spec
Title: Re: Richard james Rolfe
Post by: sparrett on Monday 03 November 08 21:20 GMT (UK)
Hi
Our National archives site has a fully digitised war service history for Richard Rolfe.
You will learn a great deal about him from it.
He enlisted at Charters Towers Qld and married FLorence Mabel Scadden during the war in 1917.
The certificate is contained in the file with her deatails.
It appeaars that she did not come to Australia, but a closer reading and more investigation my prove me wrong on that.
there is a letter from his sister a Mrs John Baker among other documents.
http://www.naa.gov.au

Search as a guest and enter his name in keywords.
Sue
Title: Re: Richard james Rolfe
Post by: tropicalj on Monday 03 November 08 21:22 GMT (UK)
http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/recordsearch/index.aspx

There is a WWI  record  for  this  man

you  can search  on  line and  read about  him.  He  married  during  the war and  his  wife's address is in Wiltshire

kind  thoughts Jenn
Title: Re: Richard james Rolfe
Post by: spec on Monday 03 November 08 21:33 GMT (UK)
Oh thankyou ladies
i have twice tried to get into this (it will be me)
but am unable to see anything as it just says
no criteria????
      spec
Title: Re: Richard james Rolfe
Post by: spec on Monday 03 November 08 22:03 GMT (UK)
oh i say ive done it and thankyou both so much
i am so grateful ive got excited then had tears
 Thanks again both of you Regards spec
Title: Re: Richard james Rolfe
Post by: tropicalj on Monday 03 November 08 22:17 GMT (UK)
Hell o there Spec

do  you  have  the details  for  his sister  the one  who  wrote  the  letter  her address was Emerald. 

Emerald  is a  town  in  Qld too .

Jenn
Title: Re: Richard james Rolfe
Post by: sparrett on Monday 03 November 08 22:47 GMT (UK)
Hi Jenn and all,
We are doubling up here Jenn!!
Sue
Title: Re: Richard james Rolfe
Post by: sparrett on Monday 03 November 08 22:52 GMT (UK)
I had been searcing in that file to find his burial pace but could not see it, but here are the details
Richard James Rolfe
Rank Private [Pte]
Service Number 3168
Unit 4th Pioneers
Service Army
Conflict 1914-1918
Date of Death 20 September 1918
Cemetery or Memorial Details 26 Villers Bretonneux-France
War Grave Register Notes ROLFE, Pte. Richard James, 3168. 4th Pioneers. 20th Sept., 1918. Age 29. Son of Edwin and Mary Ann Rolfe; husband of Florence Mabel Rolfe, of Redge, Chilmark, Salisbury, England. Born at Great Shefford, Berks, England.

Source AWM145 Roll of Honour cards, 1914-1918 War, Army
Sue
Title: Re: Richard james Rolfe
Post by: sparrett on Monday 03 November 08 23:06 GMT (UK)
his embarkation details
http://www.awm.gov.au/nominalrolls/ww1/embarkation/person.asp?p=68658

This of interest from free bmd Uk

Births Jun 1918 

 
Rolfe,  Florence V J. mother's  maiden name Scadden,  Tisbury  5a 287

Very sad!

Sue
Title: Re: Richard james Rolfe
Post by: tropicalj on Monday 03 November 08 23:53 GMT (UK)
Hi Jenn and all,
We are doubling up here Jenn!!
Sue

Yes  Sue,  I  had  typed up  my  info  on  Word  and  was going  to  post  and  the phone  rang  and  when  I  got back  and  posted it,  no  warning  as it was  late I guess.   I  then  saw  your  posting after I  had  posted.

But  no  harm  done 
Jenn
Title: Re: Richard james Rolfe
Post by: tropicalj on Monday 03 November 08 23:55 GMT (UK)
http://www.aif.adfa.edu.au:8080/showPerson?pid=260329

There is no  known  grave

this site  gives you  some further information  as well

Jenn
Title: Re: Richard james Rolfe
Post by: sparrett on Tuesday 04 November 08 01:45 GMT (UK)
Hi,
From the Emerald Cemetery listings.


  Surname: Baker                     
First names: Elizabeth Jane
       Born: abt Dec 1860               
       Died: 16 May 1954               
        Age: 93                     Buried: Emerald
   Comments: Wife of John Baker.

  Surname: Baker                     
First names: John
       Born: abt Jul 1853             
       Died: 1 Jan 1933                 
        Age: 79 years 6 months      Buried: Emerald
   Comments: Spouse of Elizabeth Jane Baker
.
  Surname: Baker                     
First names: Richard Thomas
       Born: abt 1900               
       Died: 21 Dec 1961               
        Age: 61                     Buried: Emerald

I wonder whether this John Baker is the one referred to in the letter.[as c/o address]

Here is the birth of the son Richard [above]

1900/C10667 Baker, Richard Thomas Father.  John. Mother,  Elizabeth Jane Pridham.

Mrs F. J. Baker, the author of the letter who says Richard James ROLFE was her brother , may have been a daughter-in -law of this couple.

Just speculating ;D
Sue
   
Title: Re: Richard james Rolfe
Post by: sparrett on Tuesday 04 November 08 01:53 GMT (UK)
Ah, Yes,

Here is the marriage in QLD.
She has signed herself in the letter in the file in the old--fashioned way using her husband's initials, as in Mrs F. J. Baker.


1916/C575 Rolfe,  Pollice Silena to  Baker, Frederick John
ADDING:
Here is her birth in Hungerford

June 1/4, 1893, Rolfe,  Polly Selina     Hungerford   vol.2c  pg269

Here is his in QLd.
1886/C8968 Baker, Frederick John Father  John. Mother. Elizabeth Pridham

Sue
Title: Re: Richard james Rolfe
Post by: tropicalj on Tuesday 04 November 08 02:13 GMT (UK)
Good  Work  Sue

Polly Selena BAKER only  appears  once on  the Electoral Rolls

1919 Qld Roll

living at  Balranald Winton as home duties
as husband Fred is a  labourer



Jenn
Title: Re: Richard james Rolfe
Post by: tropicalj on Tuesday 04 November 08 02:24 GMT (UK)
Found  her  using  her name  as  given on the  marriage details

Pollice Selena

1930  still in Winton  with hubby  at Vindex Street home duties labourer

then
1936  by  herself in Charters Towers

Jenn

Title: Re: Richard james Rolfe
Post by: spec on Tuesday 04 November 08 19:49 GMT (UK)
 :ooh i say i am a trifle confused you are saying Polly Selina Rolfe born berkshire
she was the sister of Richarh James Rolfe,are you saying she moved to Australia?
and married a chap called Baker
could you put this together for me and also whos death was so sad!!!!
   Thanks spec
Title: Re: Richard james Rolfe
Post by: tropicalj on Tuesday 04 November 08 21:56 GMT (UK)
Hello  there Spec
Quote
Rolfe,  Florence V J. mother's  maiden name Scadden,  Tisbury  5a 287

Very sad!

Sue



This  is  the  birth of a child  to  Richard James Rolfe and his Wife Florence Scadden.   Sad because  he  didn't live  to   see  her.

There isn't anything  much we can  do  to  put  this  together really  you  just need  to  read  the  postings.

The  WW1  had a letter  written  by  his  sister  Mrs. Baker from Emerald.

Sue  figured out  who  the  sister was.  We  didn't  know  anything about  his family  just  dedueced it from  reading  the information  that was there.

So at some point in  time his sister also came to Queensland and married  and possibly  had children   (index only  goes to  1914 for births)

Are you  missing any other siblings for Richard

Jenn
Title: Re: Richard james Rolfe
Post by: spec on Tuesday 04 November 08 22:18 GMT (UK)
oh that was sad,i really cant understand why Polly went to Australia
and of course will never no but at least i no where she went the other
siblings stayed in the Shefford Berkshire area
i really cant thankyou  enough for all your assistance
which i appreciate so much
Kindest Regards spec  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Richard james Rolfe
Post by: sparrett on Wednesday 05 November 08 07:34 GMT (UK)


i really cant understand why Polly went to Australia

Well, spec, A great many people did and found it to be the best decision of their lives!
Perhaps she accompanied her brother.,There may also have been others of the family already here or with her on the voyage.  Perhaps she already knew the Bakers in some way. We can't know.

Sue
Title: Re: Richard james Rolfe
Post by: JaceyYoung on Saturday 25 April 20 07:07 BST (UK)
Hi There
It's a lot of years since you posted this but I've just found it!
Richard James Rolfe was my great grandfather's brother.
My great grandfather was Charles Elijah Rolfe who also emigrated to Australia from Great Shefford.
I have a small amount of information and some family tree research done by my cousin.
If you get this message please feel free to get in touch.
Regards
Jacey
Title: Re: Richard james Rolfe
Post by: spec on Monday 27 April 20 08:42 BST (UK)
Hi Jacey
Many thanksfor your post it is appreciated
My email add is   
I have photographs youmay like tosee of Charlies siblings
Thank you again pec

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Title: Re: Richard james Rolfe
Post by: JaceyYoung on Monday 27 April 20 16:17 BST (UK)
Hi Spec
I have sent my email address to you via Admin.
Looking forward to being in touch.
Regards
Jacey
Title: Re: Richard james Rolfe
Post by: spec on Monday 27 April 20 16:27 BST (UK)
Apparentlyyour box is full so cant send you a pm
Title: Re: Richard james Rolfe
Post by: spec on Monday 27 April 20 17:02 BST (UK)
HI JACEY
could you see to your pm box,it appears to be fulland e
Would like to emailyou
Thankyou spec