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Title: Mere church window MIDLANE family
Post by: judb on Friday 07 November 08 12:12 GMT (UK)

I believe there is a window in Mere parish church donated by the Midlane family.  If anyone is able to copy the inscription and/or describe the window I'd be very grateful.

The Midlanes were in Mere from around 1820ish to around 1880ish with Augusta MIDLANE buried 1822 (aged abt 14), her father John MIDLANE buried 1841, mother Jane MIDLANE buried 1853 and I think another daughter Mary Jane NEWMAN is there also (buried 1877).  Three of the daughters were married in the church also - Martha in 1824, Mary Jane 1826 and Theresa Caroline in 1835.
 
Many thanks!

Title: Re: Mere church window MIDLANE family
Post by: Bagpuss_Janet on Wednesday 12 November 08 09:13 GMT (UK)

My parents live not too far from Mere.   I will see if I can get there, although it may not be for a few weeks as they're away at present.  :)

Title: Re: Mere church window MIDLANE family
Post by: judb on Wednesday 12 November 08 12:24 GMT (UK)

Any time would be just fine.  I seem to remember seeing it written up in a guide book to the church but it was a long time ago that I saw it and the dteails are hazy.

If there is a guide book could you let me know and I can write to the church and see if they will sell me a copy.

Many thanks for your offer.

Judith, Canberra, Australia

Title: Re: Mere church window MIDLANE family
Post by: Bagpuss_Janet on Friday 14 November 08 19:00 GMT (UK)

I managed to go to Mere today!  :)

I found the plaque quite easily.  The brass inscription underneath reads thus...

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To the memory of John Midlane * born in 1775 * died in 1841 * and of Jane his wife born in 1770 * and died in 1853 * (for many years resident in this parish) * //
Also to the memory of their children * George born in 1802 * died in 1883 * Martha born in 1803 * died in 1885 (wife of John Poore Commander RN) //
John Sone born in 1805 * died in 1869 * Mary Jane born in 1806 * died in 1877 (wife of Mathias newman Surgeon of this parish) Augusta born in 1808 //
died in 1822 * Theresa Caroline born in 1809 * died in 1852 (wife of John Jones Dyer of the Admiralty) * Frances Agnes born in 1811 * died 1860 (wife of //
Henry Coombe (clerk in holy orders) *** This memorial is placed AD 1888 by Maurice Wemyss their youngest son born 1814

Where I have typed // denotes a new line - but the typing is too long for this box.   :)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f235/JanetSerenaPics1/mere/Mereplaque6entiresmall1.jpg)

Then underneath, a smaller plaque reading...

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In memory of the above named
"Maurice Wemyss Midlane"
Who died January 10th 1891

You can find mention of him here - http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=16698

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f235/JanetSerenaPics1/mere/Merewindow1small1.jpg)

The people in the window are (from left to right) King David, Saint Mary BV and Saint John EV

I have taken some snaps of the plaque broken down so you can read the writing, and some more of the window and some of the church. You can view my album here...

http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f235/JanetSerenaPics1/mere/

Feel free to keep and use any images as you wish.  :)

Title: Re: Mere church window MIDLANE family
Post by: judb on Friday 14 November 08 22:45 GMT (UK)

Oh, Janet,

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

You have gone to so much trouble and I so appreciate it - gave me a teary moment or two.

I have a lot of information about this family and these pictures are a real bonus.  John and Jane Midlane are my 3g grandparents and their grandson, (child of John Jones DYER and Theresa Caroline MIDLANE) came to Australia in the 1880s. 

I have only been seriously looking for ancestors in the last year or so.  We were in Uk in 2005 for 7 months and would have passed Mere a few times when visiting my husband's niece in Montacute.  John Jones DYER"s mother is buried in Chicklade so I missed that too - never mind, next time......

Once again - many thanks.
Judith, Canberra, Australia

Title: Re: Mere church window MIDLANE family
Post by: Bagpuss_Janet on Thursday 20 November 08 08:23 GMT (UK)

You are welcome.   I love doing the whole searching and photographing thing!  :D

Do you know if any of these Midlane's are buried in Mere?  I was going to go to have a trample round the cemetery before I came home, but sadly I ran out of time.

Title: Re: Mere church window MIDLANE family
Post by: judb on Thursday 20 November 08 10:50 GMT (UK)

It never ceases to amaze me how kind people are - but I do agree with you - the chase is exciting

The Midlanes were in Mere from around 1820ish to around 1880ish with Augusta MIDLANE buried 1822 (aged abt 14), her father John MIDLANE buried 1841, mother Jane MIDLANE buried 1853 and I think another daughter Mary Jane NEWMAN is there also (buried 1877), as well as her husband.  Three of the daughters were married in the church also - Martha in 1824, Mary Jane 1826 and Theresa Caroline in 1835.

I would love to know where Theresa Caroline is buried.  She died in Greenwich so I suppose she is there somewhere.

The Midlanes were in Bedhampton Hants until after John Sone MIDLANE was born.  They were Catholics and lived at West Camel for the birth of at least the next 3 children who were baptised in the Catholic chapel at Shepton Mallet.  Interesting that they became staunch members of the Anglican church while in Mere.  Mary Jane and her husband Matthias Newman (surgeon) lived next to The Ship Inn in Mere (or maybe two doors away).

Thanks again, J

Title: Re: Mere church window MIDLANE family
Post by: SMF on Saturday 28 February 09 16:45 GMT (UK)

I am very excited to see the link between the Midlane and the Dyer Family as I am also a descendant of John Jones Dyer and often wondered why a great uncle of mine had the second name of Midlane.

Title: Re: Mere church window MIDLANE family
Post by: judb on Sunday 01 March 09 01:59 GMT (UK)

Then you are a cousin of mine, SMF!  So exciting!

Where are you?  I would love to talk with you.  I assume you are descended from one of JJD's daughters as his son John Midlane DYER emigrated to Australia in 1871.  Is Lydia Ffinch your ancestor as she seems, from my sketchy research to be the only sister who married?

I have a lot of information about John DYER, (John Jones' father) from his first marriage in 1791 onward, some info about John's second wife (Eliza Seager, the mother of most of his children including JJD) back to about 1760ish and about the Midlane family back to the mid 1700s, and some info on John DYER's children.  I would be very happy to share with you.

JMD lived in Victoria, had seven children who reached adulthood and he is my great grandfather - his son Ralph was my mother's father.

I'll send you my email address by a private message.  I don't think you can send me a private message until you have done a few more public posts on Rootschat, but you are very welcome to email me. 

I find Rootschat a wonderful site - so many people who help out - such as the kind lady who took the photos on this post.  I also made contact with a person who was researching John DYER's family who helped me a tremendous amount.  And now another conatact with you.

Cheers, Judith (Canberra, Australia)

Title: Re: Mere church window MIDLANE family
Post by: SMF on Sunday 01 March 09 11:24 GMT (UK)

Yes, you are right Lydia Ffinch nee Dyer, my great grandmother and wife of Revd. Matthew Mortimer Ffinch. Although I am not descended from this son, Lydia had a child Arthur John Midlane and we had wondered why the name Midlane was given to him. Indeed we are cousins!

Title: Re: Mere church window MIDLANE family
Post by: lee77 on Monday 04 January 10 08:02 GMT (UK)

 Hi Judith,
I have searching this site and found the beautiful window donated by the Midlanes.

Frances Agnes Midlane  married to John Henry Coombe are my gggg/grandparents,Coombe family is the one that I decend from.

 I see you live in Canberra,I live in Mildura. John and Frances's son Herbert Russell Coombe died in Wentworth NSW 30 klm away.

Regards Suzanne Burgess

Title: Re: Mere church window MIDLANE family
Post by: SMF on Monday 04 January 10 10:39 GMT (UK)

Good to hear of another cousin. I will be searching the family tree to see where you fit in. I am descended from Lydia (nee Dyer) and Matthew Ffinch and have Midlane ancestors.
Greetings from the UK, Susan

Title: Re: Mere church window MIDLANE family
Post by: judb on Sunday 17 January 10 11:37 GMT (UK)

Well, how nice to 'meet' you Suzanne, and to say hello again to SMF.  I haven't looked at this Board of Rootschat for a few weeks so sorry I didn't reply earlier.  I didn't know that Frances and John's son had come to Australia.

We were in UK last Setember so I was able to visit Mere church to see where our ancestors were married/baptised/buried.  I also saw the house in Mere where JJD was born and the glorious chapel where he was baptised in Greenwich.

I saw the mill in Bedhampton and the mill at Langstone (near Portsmouth) which were worked by Midlanes before John and Jane moved to West Camel (and that move has still got me intrigued - why?); the churches at Bedhampton and Warblington where some of our/their forebears lie, as well as being VERY disappointed to find that the actual church of St Mary's at Portsea where John and Jane, Jane's parents and grandparents were married has been replaced by a more modern one.

So good to hear from you.

PLease be in touch again!

Judith

Title: midlane & coombe
Post by: lee77 on Monday 18 January 10 08:33 GMT (UK)

Hi judith,
I am very much a learner here so not sure what I am doing at times.
I have been looking at Julcoe's info on the Midlanes and have been adding to my tree.

I have been trying to following  Thomas Coombe and Milligan side as I don't want to get to carried away with to many names. Have you Thomas Coombe in your tree?  John and Jane are his great grandparents.

I will copy what I can and store it and then get back to it at a later date. I am very greatful for all your help.

suzanne

Title: Re: Mere church window MIDLANE family
Post by: CW4 on Friday 24 September 10 04:11 BST (UK)

Hi Judith, Googled my 3rd great grandfather, John Midlane (1775) and came across your posts.  I come down from John Midlane via sone John (b. abt 1810) married to Maria Jupe(?).  Their daughter, Annie Midlane (1839)  was my great grandmother.  SHe married Isaiah Charles Child.  Any info you could provide on John and Jane and / or John and Maria would really be appreciated.

Don
Fresno, Calif, formerly from Brisbane, QLD

Title: Re: Mere church window MIDLANE family
Post by: judb on Friday 24 September 10 08:44 BST (UK)

Hi Don - how nice to meet you, cousin!

I have a lot of info which I am happy to pass on to you.  I will try and PM you but it sometimes doesn't work until you have 3 posts.

I haven't found much about your 3g grandfather however have Jane's parents' names -  father George Anson THOMPSON and mother Ann VIVIAN.  Jane's family appeared to have had Naval connections - mainly as administrative staff rather than sailors. 

John's family were millers and corn merchants around Bedhampton, Havant, Warblington, Emsworth (near Portsmouth).  They were quite well-off, and were a Catholic family.  (No money came down to my lot LOL).  John and Jane's first two children were baptised in Bedhampton but the others, including John Sone MIDLANE were born at West Camel, Somerset.  I would love to know why they moved - seems a long way.

After they moved to Mere they becams staunch Anglicans, with a number of the children married in Mere church and John and Jane are buried there.  The churchyard is grassed over now with hardly any headstones so I wasn't able to locate the actual graves when I visited last year.  I have to say the stained glass window is quite impressive!

I see your grandmother Annie was married in Mere church.

Will try and PM you.

Judith

Title: Re: Mere church window MIDLANE family
Post by: Lynn E H on Sunday 01 May 11 11:36 BST (UK)

Hi Judith,

I am a cousin of Don from Fresno. He managed to "find" me through Isaiah Charles Child.  Annie and Isaiah are also my great grandparents. I am off to visit the area today as we live nearby - so Stourton, Mere, Gillingham and Bourton here we come.
Lynn - Cirencester, Gloucestershire UK

Title: Re: Mere church window MIDLANE family
Post by: judb on Tuesday 03 May 11 09:27 BST (UK)

Hi Lyn

I believe your Annie's surname was MIDLAM not Midlane.  I have researched this quite thoroughly and I believe that she was born in Middlesex, parents John MIDLAM  and Ann CARD.

Very confusing as we have two John MIDLANEs - father and son - both their wives named Jane! But I think your Annie's family came from Gillingham

You may have to make a couple more posts before you can reply to me through R'chat.  I think you have to do 3 posts before the PM system will work.

Hope you enjoy/ed your trip.  Lucky you, living in Cirencester.  We are visiting UK for a month in June and are looking forward to re-visiting some nice places.

Judith

Title: Re: Mere church window MIDLANE family
Post by: BlueFire on Thursday 23 August 18 05:32 BST (UK)

Hi

Im researching Herbert Russell Midlane Coombe for a distant relative. I'm not related. I have been trying to find some evidence for his death and perhaps get a death certificate. I cannot find him in the NSW BDM. I contacted Wentworth Shire Council and could not find a burial record for him either. They did find his wife and some children.

Title: Re: Mere church window MIDLANE family
Post by: judb on Thursday 23 August 18 07:46 BST (UK)

My direct line is through Theresa Caroline DYER nee MIDLANE.  Her younger sister, Frances Agnes MIDLANE, married John Henry COOMBE. 

I haven't researched the COOMBE family at all except to know that Frances died in 1862 and I think John Henry COOMBE died in 1888. 

Are you seeking the death for Herbert Russell Midlane COOMBE b 1841?
I see he was baptised as "Midlane Russell COOMBE" 4 May, 1840,birth registration uses those names and was still  just Russell Midlane COOMBE (no Herbert) in the 1851 census. 

If it's the same person when did he begin to use "Herbert"?  Is the one you are looking for the chap who married Bridget BOWER/POWER in 1861 in South Australia using the forename Herbert- as I see from some on-line trees?

I note also that most of the on-line trees give his death date as 1905 but no-one has a BMD reference for that. 

Sorry - not much help at all.  Can I suggest that you put this query up on the Australia board.  I am constantly amazed at the finds some of the researchers there are able to find.

Judith

Title: Re: Mere church window MIDLANE family
Post by: BlueFire on Friday 24 August 18 00:51 BST (UK)

Hi

Yes. Im led to believe that Russell Midlane Coombe and Herbert Russell Midlane Coombe are the same person. I have emailed NSW BDM directly and they cannot find his death.

Herbert Russell Midane Coombe
Father's Name   John Henry Coombe
Spouse Name   Bridget Bower
Spouse's Father's Name   Thomas Bower
Marriage Date   21 Nov 1863
Marriage Place   Kooringa
Registration Place   Burra South Australia

Title: Re: Mere church window MIDLANE family
Post by: judb on Friday 24 August 18 01:08 BST (UK)

Hello again - can we put this up on the Australia board of Rootschat?

As i said yesterday there are some wonderful researchers who seem to be able to break down brick walls very smartly.  Some of them also have off-line resources which can be really helpful. 

I do have lots on the Midlane family from John and Jane MIDLANE (grandparents of the Russell you are looking for) if your relative is interested.  I have a public tree on Ancestry which has quite a bit. 

Judith

Title: Re: Mere church window MIDLANE family
Post by: BlueFire2 on Friday 24 August 18 02:18 BST (UK)

Hi

I posted in here because I searched for his name and didnt want to double up on threads. I'll start a new one if there isnt one currently going.

Ps I couldnt log in with my tablet for some reason, so have created an account for the email that comes to this device.

Title: Re: Mere church window MIDLANE family
Post by: judb on Friday 24 August 18 03:03 BST (UK)

Let me know when you've done it and I'll contribute a bit.   :)

I see it's there now

Judith