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Title: Offer: Criminal records for Sussex and Kent 1805-1816
Post by: kerryb on Friday 24 October 08 07:33 BST (UK)
I have copies of the criminal records for Sussex and Kent between 1805 and 1816 - PRO reference HO27

If you would like a look up please let me know.

Kerry
Title: Criminal records for Sussex and Kent 1805-1816
Post by: toni* on Friday 24 October 08 10:03 BST (UK)
is it searchable by surname Kerry? if so please search for Punnett  ;D - i dont think they will be there though - nice law a-biding family me thinks (maybe)
 
Title: Re: Criminal records for Sussex and Kent 1805-1816
Post by: kerryb on Friday 24 October 08 10:20 BST (UK)
Hi Toni

It is searchable by surname so will look for Punnett  ;D

Kerry

PS  I bet theres loads.
Title: Re: Criminal records for Sussex and Kent 1805-1816
Post by: kerryb on Friday 24 October 08 10:23 BST (UK)
I was wrong, you were right, there are no Punnetts  ::) ::)  Must have been a right god fearing goodie goodie lot  ;) ;D ;D

Kerry
Title: Re: Criminal records for Sussex and Kent 1805-1816
Post by: matron123 on Friday 24 October 08 11:01 BST (UK)
Hello Kerry would you look for any Balcomb/e for me please
Sheila
Title: Re: Criminal records for Sussex and Kent 1805-1816
Post by: kerryb on Friday 24 October 08 11:08 BST (UK)
Hi Sheila

One Balcomb

Thomas Balcomb of Sussex tried at the April session, 1815 for Larceny and found not guilty. 

Kerry
Title: Re: Criminal records for Sussex and Kent 1805-1816
Post by: Lady Di on Friday 24 October 08 11:17 BST (UK)
Hi Kerry,

Thanks - It's very kind of you to offer look ups

Would you please see if my James Goodwin (tried Maidstone) is there somewhere. He earned himself a lifelong holiday in Oz  ;D

Thanks

Di
Title: Re: Criminal records for Sussex and Kent 1805-1816
Post by: kerryb on Friday 24 October 08 11:22 BST (UK)
Hi Di

No sign of him  :-\

Kerry
Title: Re: Criminal records for Sussex and Kent 1805-1816
Post by: Lady Di on Friday 24 October 08 11:31 BST (UK)
DRATS - thanks for looking Kerry

I'm sure he'll turn up somewhere

Di
Title: Re: Criminal records for Sussex and Kent 1805-1816
Post by: matron123 on Friday 24 October 08 11:43 BST (UK)
Thank you Kerry
Sheila
Title: Re: Criminal records for Sussex and Kent 1805-1816
Post by: johngirl on Friday 24 October 08 11:55 BST (UK)
Hi Kerry,

Can you check out the name Toler. My GGGG Grandfather Richard Kemp stole a sheep in 1802 in Kent with a Samuel Toler his brother-in-law. Richard was transported to Tasmania for life for the crime. Just want to see if anymore Tolers got into trouble with the law. Samuel only got six months jail and a fine for this crime.

 Johngirl
Title: Re: Criminal records for Sussex and Kent 1805-1816
Post by: kerryb on Friday 24 October 08 11:57 BST (UK)
Hi johngirl

Sorry no Tolers.  Must have started to behave themselves.  ::)

Kerry
Title: Re: Criminal records for Sussex and Kent 1805-1816
Post by: johngirl on Friday 24 October 08 12:02 BST (UK)
Thankyou Kerry.

My GGGG Grandfather also learnt behave himself. He was one of the first people to arrive in the Colony of Van Diemans Land in 1804.

 Johngirl
Title: Re: Criminal records for Sussex and Kent 1805-1816
Post by: kizmiaz on Friday 24 October 08 12:16 BST (UK)
Any Winchesters? Or Duly's? Or Tutt's? Or Robins'?

(But especially Winchesters. I have a feeling about that line!!)  ;D ;D

Glen
Title: Re: Criminal records for Sussex and Kent 1805-1816
Post by: kerryb on Friday 24 October 08 12:25 BST (UK)
Well you were right Glen  ;D ;D

Nothing for all surnames except Winchester  ::)

Michael Winchester, Sussex
1813, April session
Larceny, sentence - No Bill??
PRO ref HO27/9

Kerry
Title: Re: Criminal records for Sussex and Kent 1805-1816
Post by: kizmiaz on Friday 24 October 08 12:30 BST (UK)
Hmm, well I don't have any Michael's in my tree yet, but he might pop up somewhere!

Did you find your highwayman you were looking for in 1806?

Glen
Title: Re: Criminal records for Sussex and Kent 1805-1816
Post by: kerryb on Friday 24 October 08 12:33 BST (UK)
Well I found Richard Message twice, once in 1806 for felony and then once in 1807 for Larceny and transported.  So the rumour about him being a highwayman was obviously slightly an exageration. ::) ::)

All the records I am now collecting for Richard Message just need to be sorted and linked together and that is proving to be the frustrating bit.

Michael Winchester!  I think he might be in my Winchesters  :o

Kerry
Title: Re: Criminal records for Sussex and Kent 1805-1816
Post by: kizmiaz on Friday 24 October 08 12:37 BST (UK)

Michael Winchester!  I think he might be in my Winchesters  :o

Kerry

Well, I always thought my line were the black sheep of the family, but now we know...!!!  ;D

Glen
Title: Re: Criminal records for Sussex and Kent 1805-1816
Post by: kerryb on Friday 24 October 08 12:40 BST (UK)
Arr not the same Michael, this one is later Phew  ;D ;D ;D

Kerry
Title: Re: Criminal records for Sussex and Kent 1805-1816
Post by: toni* on Friday 24 October 08 13:39 BST (UK)
thanks Kerry - was hoping i might have found one
Title: Re: Criminal records for Sussex and Kent 1805-1816
Post by: L on Friday 24 October 08 15:18 BST (UK)
Hi Kerry,

Could you check for the names Cobby and Catt please ? I am sure that between them something must come up!

Many thanks,
Lesley
Title: Re: Criminal records for Sussex and Kent 1805-1816
Post by: kerryb on Friday 24 October 08 15:25 BST (UK)
Hi L

Just two Catts in Kent, no Cobbys.

John Catt
1814
January session at Hythe
Fraud, no prosecution, HO27/10

Mary Catt
1814
July session at New Romney
Larceny, 1 month, HO27/10

Kerry
Title: Re: Criminal records for Sussex and Kent 1805-1816
Post by: L on Friday 24 October 08 15:28 BST (UK)
Many thanks for that Kerry,

Lesley
Title: Re: Criminal records for Sussex and Kent 1805-1816
Post by: toni* on Friday 24 October 08 16:35 BST (UK)
Kerry if they wwere found guilty where were they sent? because Lewes Prison wasn't in  .... er.....use until 1853
is there somewhere esle near here
was there a
Lewes Correctional Facility or something like that ?



Title: Re: Criminal records for Sussex and Kent 1805-1816
Post by: kerryb on Friday 24 October 08 16:43 BST (UK)
Do you know I hadn't even given it a thought!  ::)

Would there have been local prisons before that period?  I know Horsham had a prison at some time which is certainly not there now.

Kerry
Title: Re: Criminal records for Sussex and Kent 1805-1816
Post by: lizdb on Friday 24 October 08 16:47 BST (UK)
This is very kind of you, Kerry.

Any Edmonds or Edmunds?

(I know one of my Edmonds's sadly commited suicide in Lewes Prison at a later date, awaiting trial for larceny, but I dont know about if any of them further back had issues with the law)

Title: Re: Criminal records for Sussex and Kent 1805-1816
Post by: kerryb on Friday 24 October 08 16:53 BST (UK)
Hi Liz

Just making sure I get lots of use out of it.  Not sure I should be spending too much money on family history at the moment so justification in order!  ::)

Just two in Kent
Mary Edmonds
1816 July session
Larceny, sentence - 3 months
HO27/12

William Edmunds
1816 April session
Larceny, sentence - No Bill
HO27/12

Kerry :)
Title: Re: Criminal records for Sussex and Kent 1805-1816
Post by: matron123 on Tuesday 04 November 08 04:40 GMT (UK)
Thank you Chris, I am glad you had a nice break I think you deserve it. I have just had a weeks break didnt go any where but I work in a school so it was half term. bye for now
Sheila
Title: Re: Criminal records for Sussex and Kent 1805-1816
Post by: petmas on Saturday 08 November 08 10:00 GMT (UK)
Kerry if they wwere found guilty where were they sent? because Lewes Prison wasn't in  .... er.....use until 1853
is there somewhere esle near here
was there a
Lewes Correctional Facility or something like that ?

I've seen some go to Horsham. Pete




Title: Re: Criminal records for Sussex and Kent 1805-1816
Post by: kerryb on Saturday 08 November 08 10:08 GMT (UK)
Petmas

Was there a jail at Horsham because I have noticed somewhere assizes held at Horsham for West Sussex?

Kerry
Title: Re: Criminal records for Sussex and Kent 1805-1816
Post by: petmas on Saturday 08 November 08 10:35 GMT (UK)
Yes   http://www.hiddenhorsham.co.uk/54/horshamgaols.htm   ,  it was the last place in England to carry out execution by press where the victim was crushed by putting a board on them and piling with rocks. Good wholesome family entertainment
Title: Re: Criminal records for Sussex and Kent 1805-1816
Post by: kerryb on Saturday 08 November 08 10:47 GMT (UK)
 :( Sounds like it!!!

Kerry
Title: Re: Criminal records for Sussex and Kent 1805-1816
Post by: Chris in 1066Land on Saturday 08 November 08 19:11 GMT (UK)
Hi All

This topic is still active - but can all requests for lookups from Criminal records for Sussex and Kent 1805-1816 be posted on the "Lookup Requests Board" please

I thank you for your kind attention

Chris in 1066