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Title: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: Elaine48 on Friday 14 November 08 02:59 GMT (UK)
Have both indexes and willing do to look-ups.

Elaine
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: fiona g on Saturday 15 November 08 16:51 GMT (UK)
Hi Elaine

what a great offer :).interested in the Leishman surname particularly Janet Thomson nee Leishman,b1883 died 13 Nov 1963 ,Newbattle.thanks
Fiona
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: Elaine48 on Saturday 15 November 08 17:25 GMT (UK)
I should have mentioned this is Vol. 1, Old Churchyard and Church:

Plot numbers: 19/18 & 20/10

ERECTED BY ROBERT LEISHMAN/NEWBATTLE
In memory of Helen Shanks, Lasswade, his daughter
who died 21st Jan 1881 aged 24 years.
Also Richard his son who died 9th May 1888, aged 20
years,
Also Agnes Hardie Leishman, Galadean Hill, Newtongrange
who died 4th July 1890 aged 16 years,
Also David Leishman Gallowdean Hill, died 4th March 1891
aged 18 years,
The above Robert Leishman died 24th August 1894,
Acre, Newbattle aged 63 years;
Also Mary, Newbattle, wife of George Caldwell and beloved
daughter of above who died 19th April 1905 aged 40 years;
Also Mary Murray, Monkswood, wife of the above Robert
Leishman, 26th Feb 1906, aged 75 years.

This one is recorded in the back under no Lair:

Richard Leishman, aged 6 weeks, Hillhead, interred Nov. 4th 1862

It is possible your relative may be in the next Vol. Also, I've discovered
many of my relations who died in Newbattle were taken back to
their parish of birth for burial. This surprised me.
Here is the website for this booklet:

www.recordingangels.org.uk

Elaine
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: Elaine48 on Saturday 15 November 08 17:31 GMT (UK)
Forgot to say, there are 100's of Thomsons. Maybe Janet was buried without her maiden name. If you could
give me specific names of other family members, husband, children etc and dates, she still might be there
somewhere.

Elaine


Hi Elaine

what a great offer :).interested in the Leishman surname particularly Janet Thomson nee Leishman,b1883 died 13 Nov 1963 ,Newbattle.thanks
Fiona
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: fiona g on Saturday 15 November 08 19:06 GMT (UK)
Hi Elaine

many thanks for taking the time to check on the Leishman surname,no connection at the moment but maybe a connection in the future.

Forgot to say, there are 100's of Thomsons. Maybe Janet was buried without her maiden name. If you could
give me specific names of other family members, husband, children etc and dates, she still might be there
somewhere.

I cannot supply enough info on Janets husband Frank or their 14children but appreciate the offer.I off to check my tree incase I have missed anybody for you to look up ;) I may be back asking for more.
Fiona
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: BFW on Saturday 24 January 09 20:25 GMT (UK)
Elaine:
Would you have any information on Abraham Archibald who died in 1834 or his wife Marjory (m.s. Robertson) - death date unknown.   Abraham was buried on the 21 of November 1834 in Newton.

Barb
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: Joannie 7 on Sunday 25 January 09 00:03 GMT (UK)
Hi Barb

I hope that you don’t mind me hijacking  your post, but I have sent you a PM regarding the post.  As this is the first time that I have send a private message, I can only hope that you receive it OK, but if not please feel free to get back to me.

Jo
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: Les de B on Sunday 25 January 09 08:49 GMT (UK)
This is only a possibility but worth a go if the Newbattle records go back to the early/mid 1800's.

Looking for John Thomson (sorry, saw your previous note on that surname), and his wife Euphemia Thomson, nee Nicol. I have no approx deaths on either, however, both were born Newbattle, he abt 1769, and she abt 1773. Their six children were also born Newbattle. Euphen 1795, Janet 1796, Margaret 1798, Marion 1800, Helen 1802 and John 1805. So I presume parents died sometime after 1805, and probably(?) before 1870.

Hope that helps, but if too difficult, not to worry.

Les
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: Elaine48 on Thursday 12 February 09 05:15 GMT (UK)
Sorry I haven't replied sooner. I never received an email notice about your post and just happened to take a look tonite. Yes I do have Abraham Archibald's COD and he is also in my tree:

Name: ARCHIBALD   Abraham   
DOD: 18-Nov-1835   
Age: 59   
Address: Redrow   Newton MLN   
COD: Asthma   
Info: Father of Archibald Archibald      
DOB: 21-Nov-1835   
POB: Newton MLN

Also wife Marjorie:

Name: ROBERTSON   Marjorie   
DOD: 02-Apr-1854   
Age: 78   
POD: North Leith   
COD: Old Age   
Info: Mother of Robert. Archibald      
DOB: 04-Apr-1854 
POB: Newton MLN

There are so many mining families with ASTHMA listed as COD, which is more likely "code" for black lung.
Abraham and Marjorie's grandson Abraham b. 1821 Newton (son of Andrew Archibald b. abt 1797) married a
Catherine Moffat who is in my Moffat tree.

Hope this helps,
Elaine

Elaine:
Would you have any information on Abraham Archibald who died in 1834 or his wife Marjory (m.s. Robertson) - death date unknown.   Abraham was buried on the 21 of November 1834 in Newton.

Barb
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: Elaine48 on Thursday 12 February 09 06:30 GMT (UK)
Wonder why I'm not receiving email about these posts?

Sorry I couldn't find these names. The problem is there are so many of them and so many
mixed names in one lair. How they did these burials I don't know. There are 2 children
in my grgrgrandparents graves that I haven't a clue who they are. There was only 2 Nicol's
in the whole place which is very surprising considering what a common name it was.

Nicol, stillborn, Newtongrange, interred 30/04/1917 (In a grave with 7 other surnames.

No Lair: Jane Nicol, aged 55, Bonnyrigg, Cockpen, interred 25/09/1860

Do you have any married names for the daughters?

Elaine




This is only a possibility but worth a go if the Newbattle records go back to the early/mid 1800's.

Looking for John Thomson (sorry, saw your previous note on that surname), and his wife Euphemia Thomson, nee Nicol. I have no approx deaths on either, however, both were born Newbattle, he abt 1769, and she abt 1773. Their six children were also born Newbattle. Euphen 1795, Janet 1796, Margaret 1798, Marion 1800, Helen 1802 and John 1805. So I presume parents died sometime after 1805, and probably(?) before 1870.

Hope that helps, but if too difficult, not to worry.

Les
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: Les de B on Thursday 12 February 09 07:20 GMT (UK)
Thanks very much for the lookup, Elaine.

"Do you have any married names for the daughters?"

I'm only researching direct ancestors, so I've only got the one married name for the daughter. 

Margaret THOMSON married (first)  25/4/1816 at St.Cuthberts, Liberton to George DOBIE. He died early 1830's. Her second marriage 12/8/1857 at Dalkeith to David ARMSTRONG. His death details are unknown, but Margaret is shown as a widow in 1851 Census. She d.2/2/1857 Dalkeith, being buried New Church Yard, Dalkeith.

Not being a "local", I'm unsure whether Dalkeith is covered by your indexes.


"Wonder why I'm not receiving email about these posts?"

Don't know, but I know of a couple of threads that do not notify me by email, so I check my "New Replies" link every so often just to make sure I'm not missing out on anything. I did receive an email for this thread.

Les




Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: BFW on Thursday 12 February 09 12:03 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the info on Abraham Archibald and Marjory Robertson Elaine.  We do have ancestors in common as Abraham Archibald (the grandson) and his wife Catherine Moffatt are my second great grandparents. 

Barb
Canada
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: Elaine48 on Thursday 12 February 09 14:02 GMT (UK)
Hi Barb,

I don't know how much you know about Newton parish but I have researched it for years, and have some amazing information and photographs etc. If you are interested please send me a private message.

Elaine
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: Elaine48 on Thursday 12 February 09 14:13 GMT (UK)
You're welcome Les, sorry it wasn't much use.

I should have mentioned this is the Burial Index for the old Newbattle cemetery which I visited a couple of years ago and is in a very dangerous state of repair. Most of the graves stones have had to be knocked down due to safety concerns, the grounds are full of sunken graves. The council who knock the stones down don't worry about
whether the stone is right side up or not, so very often you can't read the names. However the actual index is kept at the Lothians FHS. The Newbattle new cemetery is in much better condition. This hasn't been completely
transcribed yet but will be available eventually.

Liberton is a seperate parish from St. Cuthberts. St. Cuthberts is in the heart of Edinburgh city whereas
Liberton like Newbattle, Dalkeith and other mining villages is on the outskirts. The majority of residents in the
outlining villages such as these were coalminers or farm workers. Anyone living in St. Cuthberts would
probably not have worked in these industries as there were no mines/farms in the actual city of Edinburgh.
My point being that Margaret would have been married in either Liberton or St. Cuthberts depending if her
husband was from there which would make him a different occupation.

There are a number of Armstrongs, no David's though and no Dobies. Dalkeith grave yard is also
seperate from Newbattle. I will be going there this summer though I don't think the actual written index is available yet. Will look and take as many photos as I can.

Elaine


Thanks very much for the lookup, Elaine.

"Do you have any married names for the daughters?"

I'm only researching direct ancestors, so I've only got the one married name for the daughter. 

Margaret THOMSON married (first)  25/4/1816 at St.Cuthberts, Liberton to George DOBIE. He died early 1830's. Her second marriage 12/8/1857 at Dalkeith to David ARMSTRONG. His death details are unknown, but Margaret is shown as a widow in 1851 Census. She d.2/2/1857 Dalkeith, being buried New Church Yard, Dalkeith.

Not being a "local", I'm unsure whether Dalkeith is covered by your indexes.


"Wonder why I'm not receiving email about these posts?"

Don't know, but I know of a couple of threads that do not notify me by email, so I check my "New Replies" link every so often just to make sure I'm not missing out on anything. I did receive an email for this thread.

Les





Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: sueky71 on Thursday 12 February 09 14:15 GMT (UK)
Hi Elaine,

Could you check for any Kennaway/Kennoway's please.

Thanks

Sueky
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: tom505 on Thursday 12 February 09 17:49 GMT (UK)
Hi Elaine

Do you have any mention of Sneddon/en, Snaddon/en in your index.  A Janet Easton married a William Sneddon, coalminer c. 1800, probably Muiravonside , Stirling. They are in the 1841 census for Cranston, but Janet is widowed by 1851.

There is reference on Family Search to the death of Janet Easton, wife of William Sneddon in 1854, "Newton Grange, Newbattle", but no mention of the source of the information.

Thanks

Tom
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: Elaine48 on Friday 13 February 09 01:56 GMT (UK)
Hi Elaine,

Could you check for any Kennaway/Kennoway's please.

Thanks

Sueky

Which grave index would you like me to look in? Newbattle or Newton?

Elaine
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: Les de B on Friday 13 February 09 02:03 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the very informative reply, Elaine.

Hopefully (and I mean HOPEFULLY!), my intentions for 2010 are to travel to the UK for a month or so, and drive through all(?) the towns/villages of England, Scotland and Ireland where the ancestors lived. A lot of planning, but also very rewarding. No doubt Newbattle, Dalkeith, etc will be included.

Once again, thanks for your time and effort. Even though you were unable to help with my specific question, your replies were very helpful.

Les
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: Elaine48 on Friday 13 February 09 02:15 GMT (UK)
Hi Elaine

Do you have any mention of Sneddon/en, Snaddon/en in your index.  A Janet Easton married a William Sneddon, coalminer c. 1800, probably Muiravonside , Stirling. They are in the 1841 census for Cranston, but Janet is widowed by 1851.

There is reference on Family Search to the death of Janet Easton, wife of William Sneddon in 1854, "Newton Grange, Newbattle", but no mention of the source of the information.

Thanks

Tom

Hi Tom,

There are loads of Sneddon's with various spellings but none to match your dates. I do know that very often a person may die in the parish they lived in but were taken back to their parish of birth for burial. This may be the case in this instance particulary as they married in a different county altogether.Sorry I couldn't find them.

Elaine
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: Elaine48 on Friday 13 February 09 02:19 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the very informative reply, Elaine.

Hopefully (and I mean HOPEFULLY!), my intentions for 2010 are to travel to the UK for a month or so, and drive through all(?) the towns/villages of England, Scotland and Ireland where the ancestors lived. A lot of planning, but also very rewarding. No doubt Newbattle, Dalkeith, etc will be included.

Once again, thanks for your time and effort. Even though you were unable to help with my specific question, your replies were very helpful.

Les

You are very welcome Les. I do hope you manage your trip. You will enjoy it so much, it's just a thrill to see where our ancestors lived (and died). When I lived in Scotland esp. I had no interest in the history let alone my own
families history until I moved away, now I cant get enough of it. I also lived in England so if you need any help with the planning let me know.

Elaine
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: tom505 on Friday 13 February 09 08:45 GMT (UK)
Thanks Elaine for trying
Tom
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: sueky71 on Friday 13 February 09 12:53 GMT (UK)
Sorry Elaine - forgot to say  ::)
Newbattle please
Sueky
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: arfs on Monday 18 May 09 02:51 BST (UK)
I'm a direct descendant of Janet Easton/Sneddon.  I have lived in NZ since 1956.

Alastair Sneddon
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: arfs on Monday 18 May 09 03:04 BST (UK)
Although I've lived in NZ since 1956, I've been 'home' a number of times.  About 1997 I was driving towards Newtongrange where my fathers family had lived.  I was smoking and threw my butt out  of the window.  The butt landed in the backseat and I stopped  in a hurry.  After getting rid of the cigarette butt I noticed cemetery gates across the road.  It was the Newbattle cemetery!

I went over and spoke to some workmen and told them that I thought my grandfather (Alexander Nicholson McKenzie Fraser SNEDDON) and grandmother (Elizabeth Gibb SNEDDON nee WALKER) were buried there.  They looked up the register book and took me to their unmarked graves!!!!!!!!

Talk about coincidences.

I see from one of the previous posts there was and inquiry about William Sneddon and Janet Easton - they are both antecedents of mine.

Alastair
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: tom505 on Monday 18 May 09 09:51 BST (UK)
Hi Alastair

We seem to have common antecedents in William Sneddon and Janet Easton. I'll provide my email address in a personal message if you'd like to share information.

"Tom"
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: Les de B on Monday 18 May 09 09:59 BST (UK)
Tom

Moderators don't like email addresses in topic replies (attracts spam). Can you edit your message, and delete the email address. You can send the email address to Alastair via a Personal Message, and the Moderators won't "rouse" on you.  ;D

Les
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: otters on Monday 18 May 09 15:56 BST (UK)
Hi Elaine,

Could you look for the name Aitchison, Acheson, Aitcheson or any other like it for me?
Thank you.
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: colinhar on Tuesday 26 May 09 23:56 BST (UK)
Hello Elaine,
I am interested in Archibald, Moffat, and Beveridge family in Newton Kirkyard.
The info you have posted about Abraham Archibald and his wife Marjorie Robertson has excited me as they are my GGGG Grandparents.
I would appreciate any more info on above families.
Thanks

Colin Harrower
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: jack99 on Friday 12 June 09 14:55 BST (UK)
Hello Elaine
do you have any info of burials for a Brown family, James Brown was the Minister for Newbattle 1786 -1813 he died 1813, wife Helen nee adam/s died 1814, I presume they were buried in Newbattle.
Thankyou  Jack 99
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: mccubbin on Tuesday 28 July 09 20:49 BST (UK)
Hello Elaine,
I was wondering if it is ok would you please do a look up for me at Newton.
John Thomson died 1887 he stayed at Campend Farm.
Also any Gilmour's at Newton.
Thank You for your help Elaine.
McCubbin
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: teesdale on Wednesday 29 July 09 09:36 BST (UK)
Hi Elaine,

Are you still available to do look ups?

I'm looking for any information on the Brunton family buried in the Newbattle Cemetery - there are probably lots and I would appreciate any info, the ones that I know may be buried there are:

Alexander Brunton d. 1854
Robert Brunton - d 1854 d.1872
James Brunton - d. 1847
Jean Brunton died between 1841 and 1851
Isabella Brunton - d. 1854

many thanks

Carol
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: garibaldired on Sunday 23 August 09 20:39 BST (UK)
Hello Elaine,

If you are still doing look ups I'd really appreciate the following (all for Newtongrange) please:

Hannah Dobbie ms York died Jan 1875
Alexander Dudgeon died August 1861
Elisabeth Dudgeon ms Dobbie died Jan 1900.

Many thanks,
garibaldired
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: teesdale on Sunday 23 August 09 22:08 BST (UK)
Hi garibaldired

I now have the book on the burials at the Newbattle Cemetery Churchyard - well worth the purchase as I have found many relations buried there.

Re:
Hannah Dobbie ms York died Jan 1875 - couldn't find anything at Newbattle

Alexander Dudgeon died August 1861 - he is buried at Newbattle Churchyard but the plot is unknown:

DUDGEON Alexander, aged 32, Newtongrange, interred 30/8/1861

Elisabeth Dudgeon ms Dobbie died Jan 1900. - buried in plot no. 17/7 - no headstone:

Elizabeth Dudgeon, aged 85, Newtongrange, interred 27/1/1900

regards

Carol
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: garibaldired on Monday 24 August 09 11:47 BST (UK)
Hi Carol,

Thank you very much for that information.
Sounds like a good idea to buy the book - you can often pick up on the unexpected when you look through a list.

Thanks again.

garibaldired
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: lyndyloo6 on Tuesday 08 September 09 20:24 BST (UK)
Hi,

Would you hae an entry for george Robertson  son of Robert and Janet Robertson approx 1850 please.  he wold have been aged approx 13 years.

Thank you,
Lynda
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: teesdale on Tuesday 08 September 09 21:02 BST (UK)
Hi Lynda,

There isn't a George Robertson listed that matches, however doen't mean that he isn't buried there. 

The burial register looks like it starts at about 1855 and earlier deaths and burials are only known from headstones. I know I have rellies (dec'd befer 1855) who appear on old parish records but not is the book.

regards

Carol

Carol
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: lyndyloo6 on Wednesday 09 September 09 17:21 BST (UK)
Thank you for this Carole.  Am grateful.

Regards,
Lynda
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: Skoosh on Friday 25 September 09 15:50 BST (UK)
Folks, anything there for Meik/Meek, thanks...Skoosh.
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: teesdale on Sunday 27 September 09 10:00 BST (UK)
Hi,

The following Meek's are buried at the cemetery and no Meik's are on the list:

Plot 3/34  - no headstone
John Meek aged 3 hours, Easthouses, interred 17/2/1914

Plot 3/35 – no headstone
Euphemia Meek, aged 6 month, Newtongrange, interred 14/7/1907

Plot 3/36 – no headstone
Alexander Meek, aged 21, Dean Park, interred 21/10/1909

Plot 9/40 – no headstone
John Meek, 35, Gowkshill, Cockpen, interred 21/10/1865
William Meek, aged 64, Dalkeith, interred 1/4/1895
John Meek, aged 20, Dalkeith, interred 12/1/1900
Janet Meek, aged 73, Westfield, interred 6/2/1912
And also buried with these Meek family members is:
Marion Mack, aged 73, Loanhead, interred 18/4/1946

Plot 9/42 no headstone
Alexander Meek, aged 61, Hunterfield, Cockpen, interred 10/6/1866
Also a:
Margaret Rutherford King or King Rutherford, aged 2, Bonnyrigg, interred 10/5/ 1911

In the same plot there is also this family who do have a headstonbe:

In loving memory of James King, died 24th Oct 1905 aged 73, also his wife Eliza Lamong, died 7th Feb 1897 aged 64, also Cpl James King MHHE, their grandson, killed in  France, 7th November 1918, aged 24.

Plot 14/2 – no headstone
Agnes Meek, aged 25, Newtongrange, interred 15/7/1915

Also interred but burial location is unknown and no headstones are:

Isabella Meek, aged 68, Easthouses, interred 20/2/1864
James Meek, aged 56, Howkshill, Cockpen, interred ??/2/1856
Marion Meek, aged 61, Hunterfield, Cockpen, interred 13/7/1864
William Meek, aged 33, Gowkshill, Cockpen, interred 5/7/1860

Hope some of these are yours or of some help in your research

regards

Carol
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: Skoosh on Sunday 27 September 09 11:24 BST (UK)
Carol,  many thanks, you're a star......Skoosh.
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: Brighton06 on Saturday 30 January 10 16:42 GMT (UK)
Hi there,

I was wondering whether you could look up any of the Moore family buried at Newbattle. This would be really helpful as i am going for a trip to Scotland next month.
Many thanks
Clare
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: teesdale on Saturday 30 January 10 22:59 GMT (UK)
Hi Clare,

The only reference to a Moore is on  the Newtongrange War Memorial:

1914 - 1918
Archibald Moore GH

regards

Carol
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: jah1 on Saturday 06 February 10 03:03 GMT (UK)
I am looking for a record of the burial site for Janet Stewart, who died in 1851 and i believe was buried in the"old" Newbattle churchyard.  Can you help me with this?  I am new to this site so don't know if I am doing this correctly. 
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: teesdale on Saturday 06 February 10 05:51 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I can't find a record for a Janet Stewart d. 1851, she doesn't have a headstone and the records for other burials only start at 1855.

Was Stewart her maiden name or married name as many women are recorded using the maiden name. Any other details - husband or children which may help me see if there is a connection

cheers

Carol
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: jah1 on Saturday 06 February 10 18:13 GMT (UK)
Thanks for looking, Carol.  Janet Stewart's maiden name was Ramage.  Her husband's name was Lewis Stewart.  He was a miner and they lived in a place called Brewers Bush in the 1850s.  Most of the family left for the United States in the late 1860s but one daughter, Jane, stayed in Scotland.  We believe her married name was Jane Charleston and her husband's name was Adam.  They may have been buried in Newbattle after 1855. 


Judy
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: Brighton06 on Saturday 06 February 10 19:11 GMT (UK)
Hi Carol,
Many thanks for looking up the Moore Family.
Please could i ask that you look for the names Fairgrieve and a Helen McLaren

Many thanks
Clare
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: teesdale on Sunday 07 February 10 06:22 GMT (UK)
Hi Judy,

No luck with the Charleston family in the Newbattle Cemetery.

Looking at census infi it would appear the family moved away from the area.

1871 Scotland Census

Name: Jane Charleston
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : Adam
Gender: Female
Where born: Cockpen, Edinburgh
Registration Number: 665
Registration district: Dalmeny
Civil parish: Dalmeny
County: West Lothian
Address: East Auldcathie
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 84
Line: 10
Roll: CSSCT1871_152
Household Members: Name Age
Adam Charleston 24
Jane Charleston 25
Janet R Charleston 1
 
Name: Adam Charleston
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1847
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Linlithgow, Linlithgow
Registration Number: 665
Registration district: Dalmeny
Civil parish: Dalmeny
County: West Lothian
Address: East Auldcathie
Occupation: Miner-state

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 1881 Scotland Census

Name: Jane Charleston
Age: 33
Estimated birth year: abt 1848
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : Adam
Gender: Female
Where born: Cockpen, Edinburghshire
Registration Number: 672
Registration district: Uphall
Civil parish: Uphall
County: West Lothian
Address: No. 23 Greendykes Rd
ED: 3
Household schedule number: 86
Line: 23
Roll: cssct1881_274
Household Members: Name Age
Adam Charleston 34
Jane Charleston 33
Janet R Charleston 11
Alexander Charleston 9
Lewis S Charleston 7
Adam Charleston 5
Isabella H Charleston 1
 
Name: Adam Charleston
Age: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1847
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Lingow, Linlithgowshire
Registration Number: 672
Registration district: Uphall
Civil parish: Uphall
County: West Lothian
Address: No. 23 Greendykes Rd
Occupation: Pitheadman


regards

CArol
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: teesdale on Sunday 07 February 10 06:41 GMT (UK)
Hi Judy,

Are you positive that your Janet (Jane/Jean also used) died in 1851 as I dound the follwoing census info that may help you in your research

1851 Scotland Census

Name: Lewis Stewart
Age: 28
Estimated birth year: abt 1823
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name: Janet
Gender: Male
Where born: Penyecak, Midlothian
Parish Number: 676
Civil parish: Cockpen
County: Midlothian
Occupation: Limestone Miner
ED: 5
Page: 34 .
Household schedule number: 123
Line: 14
Roll: CSSCT1851_175
Household Members: Name Age
Lewis Stewart 28
Janet Stewart 34
Jane Stewart 6
Stephen Stewart 4
William Stewart 2
Lewis Stewart 9 Mo
 
 Name: Janet Stewart
Age: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1817
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name: Lewis
Gender: Female
Where born: Cockpen, Midlothian

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

1861 Scotland Census

Name: Lewis Stewart
Age: 38
Estimated birth year: abt 1823
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Jean
Gender: Male
Where born: Penneuik, Edinburgh
Registration Number: 695
Registration district: Newbattle
Civil parish: Newbattle
County: Midlothian
Address: Masterton
Occupation: Coal Miner
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 11
Line: 1
Roll: CSSCT1861_133
Household Members: Name Age
Lewis Stewart 38
Jean Stewart 39
Stephen Stewart 15
William Stewart 12
Nicholas Stewart 7
David Stewart 4
Marion Stewart 1
 
 

Name: Jean Stewart
Age: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1822
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : Lewis
Gender: Female
Where born: Lasswade, Edinburgh

cheers

carol
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: teesdale on Sunday 07 February 10 20:17 GMT (UK)
Hi Clare,

Re: FAIRGRIEVE

There are no headstones for Fairgrieve but there is three burial records:

Plot 12/57
Mary Fairgrieve aged 7, Hunterfield, interred 18/12/1886
Margaret Fairgrieve aged 4 moths, Hunterfield, interred 11/1/1898

Also in this plot are:
Jane Smith, aged 60, Castlehill interred 22/3/1873
Marion Young, aged 13 months, Hunterfield, interred 16/2/1887
William Young, aged 2, The Brewery, Borthwick, interred 24/8/1887
William sandilands, aged 8 weeks, Easthouses, interred 25/2/1900
Robert Amos, aged 43, Dalkeith, interred 6/4/1902


Plot 12/58
William Fairgrieve, aged 64, Stobhill, interred 14/3/1888

Also in this plot are:
Margaret Ovens McLaren, aged 27, Hunterfield, interred 15/3/1893
Marion Young, aged 74, Dalkeith, interred 27/11/1903
Amelia Young, aged 50, White Hill, interred 8/2/1914
James Young, aged 58, Whitehill, interred 29/9/1922
Annie Young, aged 57, Dalkeith, interred 15/4/1945


Re: McLAREN

No headstone just a burial record for this one:

Plot 12/60
Ellen McLaren, aged 8, at Newtonloan Hospital, Cockpen, interred 23/3/1893

Included this one as Helen and Ellen are often interchanged.

Also with Ellen is:
Henry Mclaren, aged 2, Hunterfield, interred 17/12/1896

Also no headstone for this one:

Plot 12/17

Helen McLaren, aged 81, Hunterfield, interred 29/9/1916

And buried in the same plot are:
James Wilson, aged 51, Westhouses, interred 25/6/1868
Davidson, aged 3 hours, Gowkshill, interred 8/12/1871
John McLaren, aged 76, New Hunterfield, interred 10/6/1908

There is a headstone for a Thomas Mclaren who died 1905 (interred 5/9/1905) aged 78, his wife Helen Robb died 1878 aged 57 (interred 29/10/1879)

Quite a few others on the same headstone – will type that out if you think this is the Helen you were after.

No other Helen McLaren’s recorded in the book.

I have included those buried in the same plots for the others as I have found with my own family the others in the same plots are connected in some way as well.

Regards

Carol
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: jah1 on Monday 08 February 10 03:54 GMT (UK)
Carol,

Thanks for the information on Jane Charleston.  It gives me more leads to follow.  Yes, I'm sure that Janet Ramage Stewart died June 15, 1851.  I believe that would have been after the 1851 census.  We were told that she is buried at Newbattle but in an unmarked grave and since it was before 1855 I guess there is no record of the exact site.  I had hoped that there might be some record of where unmarked graves were placed.  My sister and I are planning to visit the cemetery when we travel to Scotland this year.  The Jean Stewart that appears in the 1861 census would be Lewis Stewart's second wife that he married in March, 1852.  She and his children from both marriages except for Jane Charleston followed him to the United States in 1869 and she and Lewis are buried in a cemetery in Iowa.   Thank you for your help.  It's is really appreciated. 

Judy

Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: Brighton06 on Monday 08 February 10 18:24 GMT (UK)
Many thanks for this Carol, it has given me a few leads to get on with.
I think there is some 3rd Great Grandparents in there which has been really helpful. If you have time i would also welcome the remainder of the names on Thomas McLaren.
Many thanks for your time its appreciated
Clare
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: teesdale on Tuesday 09 February 10 07:09 GMT (UK)
Hi Clare,

This is the transcript for the headstone for Thomas McLaren – and there is another Helen McLaren on the bottom of this – sorry I missed it before:

Plot 15/66,67

Headstone  - information in these brackets [ ] has been added from other sources by the transcribers

In
Memory of
Thomas McLaren [Balfron]
Died 1905 [interred 5/9/1905] aged 78
Helen Robb
His wife died 1879 aged 57
[Shaws Cott, interred 29/10/1879]
Thomas G Bell
Son-in-law died 1903 aged 47
[Bonnyrigg, Cockpen, interred 23/4/1903]
Their daughters
Jane died 1917 aged 61
[Bonnyrigg. Interred 26/5/1917]
Christina
Wife of Thomas G Bell
Died 1925 aged 69
[Bonnyrigg, interred 8/12/1925]
Mary
Died 1933 aged 71
[Bonnyrigg, interred 22/11/1933]
Helen
Died 1939 aged 80
[Balfron. interred 21/8/1939]

also in this plot but not marked on the headstones are:

Christina Weir, aged 8 weeks, Rosewell, Lasswade. Interred 3/1/1874
Ellen McIntyre, aged 20, Lothian Bridge, interred 1/7/1876
 
Hope this helps
Regards

Carol
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: nell1921 on Sunday 22 August 10 21:00 BST (UK)
Have both indexes and willing do to look-ups.

Elaine

Hi Elaine

I have just started and very new to this. I am trying to find out where my sister is buried.  I believe it is Newbattle Old Cemetery and was over 60 years ago.  Where can I go to find this information.  My mum is gravely ill and at 98 it is just a matter of time. My sister was called Mary Doyle and she died I believe a baby or toddler around early 1940.  Can you point me in the right direction.

Thanks

Helen

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Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: suzilad on Sunday 22 August 10 21:52 BST (UK)
Hi Elaine,
         Would you do a look up for John King died 1890 and his wife Rossana Peacock 1907
William Campbell 1888 and his wife Janet King 1924 all Newbattle

Thanks
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: teesdale on Monday 23 August 10 00:16 BST (UK)
Hi Elaine,

Sorry I can't find any record for a Mary Doyle in the Newbattle Book which covers the Newbattle Old Churchyard. I believe there is also another cemetery - maybe the local council will be able to help.


regards

Carol
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: teesdale on Monday 23 August 10 00:40 BST (UK)
Hi

RE:       William Campbell 1888 and his wife Janet King 1924 all Newbattle

Can't find any entry for the above   

John King died 1890 and his wife Rossana Peacock 1907

In Lair 14/57 - no headstone are the following which includes above pair:

Archibald Murray Cosser, aged 18 months, Newtongrange, interred 16/9/1870
Walter Cossar, aged 47, Easthouses, Interred 4/7/1881
John King, aged 43, Gilmerton, Liberton, interred 25/11/1890
Helen P Cossar, aged 7 months, Easthouses, interred 3/9/1892
Roseann King, aged 63, Gilmerton, Liberton, interred 4/1/1907
Hugh Docherty, aged 4 months, Newtongrange,  interred 12/4/1922

regards

Carol
 
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: suzilad on Monday 23 August 10 15:30 BST (UK)
Apologies Carol for getting your name wrong . Thanks for the look ups I suspect the Campbells are Dalkeith any idea how I would get them


Ann
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: teesdale on Monday 23 August 10 22:23 BST (UK)
Hi Ann,


You could try:

Midlothian Local Studies

Local Studies
Library Headquarters
2 Clerk St
Loanhead  EH209DR

Phone: 0131 271 3976
Email: localstudies[replace with 'at' symbol]@midlothian.gov.uk

From info I've seen they are supposed to have a large collection of cemetery records

regards

Carol
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: beansgram on Wednesday 29 June 11 17:01 BST (UK)
hi elaine i am looking for any hynd burt or beveridge buried in newbattle

beans
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: aodh on Monday 05 December 11 01:17 GMT (UK)
Have both indexes and willing do to look-ups.

Elaine

Hi
My ancestor, Martha Hislop, died Sep  7 1832 at Adamsrow, Newton, Midlothian, Scotland. Her husband was John Penman - he died after her. Would he be in the Newton index?
I'm also wondering if there are many Sommerville/Somerville listed in either index?

Thanks,
Eugene
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: teesdale on Monday 05 December 11 02:27 GMT (UK)
Hi Eugene,

below is the info for Martha and husband John Penman and also a list with the info for Sommerville - Somerville burials at the Newton Churchyard.

regards

Carol


Plot A91 – Martha Hislop or Penman, Adamsrow, died 7/9/1832 – cholera death

Plot A127 John Penman, Adamsrow, died 17/3/1828

One Sommerville

Plot A53 John Sommerville, Newton House, died 6 Aug 1884

And a number of Somerville:
 
Plot A6 Janet W K Somerville, aged 3 weeks, Shottstown, Penicuik, died 13/7/1884

Plot A29 Isabella Somerville, aged 7, Millerhill, died 3/1/1848

Plot A 99 Marion Somerville or Philip, aged 42, Eldin dean, Lasswade, died 2/6/1882

Plot A109 Alex’r Somerville  aged 8 m, Adamsrow, died 13/5/1865

Plot A110 Female child of James Somerville aged 19 days, Cauldcoats, died 24/8/1848

Plot A 142 Mary Somerville or Farraday, aged 74, Sheriffhall Engine, died 21/12/1846

Plot A200 Isabella Somerville  aged 1 y 10 m, Craighall, Inveresk died 17/1/1841 and Eliza Somerville, aged 11 y 6 m,  Old Engine died 20/11/1859

Plot A202 William Somerville, aged 30, Edmonstone, died 22/3/1851

Plot 220 John Somerville, aged 38, Millerhill, died 26/2/1881 and Janet B Somerville aged 15 m, Oldcraighall, Inveresk, died 26/12/1881

All of the above do not have headstones

This one has a headstone

A194

Interred here John Somerville /late farmer in Hairlaus who died 25th /Oct 1799 aged 78 years / here lys the body of Agnes Grayspouse to/ John Somerville farmer in Hairylaw who dyd/ on the 27th August 1777 aged 54 years/ Thomas Somerville late / schoolmaster in this Parish who / died Decr 13th 1775 aged 32 years / also/ Elizabeth Somerville who died / Septr 11th 1762 aged 11 years / John Somerville [buried 19/11/1749] / John Somerville [buried 21/31750]/ Rachel Somerville [buried 7/1/1752] / Agnas Somerville/ Margrate Somerville/ and John Somerville (who all died Young)
John and David Somerville sons to/ the above deceast Thomas Somerville

Added notes are in [] not marked on headstone
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: teesdale on Monday 05 December 11 02:46 GMT (UK)
Hi Beans,

From Newbattle:

Newbattle

Plot 17/29 – no headstone
Margaret Hynd, aged 30, Easthouses, interred 9/11/1917
James hynd, aged 6 months Easthouses, interred 27/5/1918

Plot 9/67 headstone for Armitstead family

Esther Armitstead wife of J H Beveridge died 19 March 1918

[She was 55, lived Hunterfield]

Plot 16/15 no headstone
Mary Beveridge aged 78, Monkswood, buried 22/6/1905

Plot 16/16 – Headstone

In loving memory of our father George Beveridge who died at Lauder 16th April 1926 aged 69 years and our mother Jemima Watson who died Novr. 1888 aged 29 years, Mary younger daughter of above who died Melrose 3rd Feb 1962 aged 77 years

Plot 16/17 – no headstone

Robert Beveridge, aged 75, Easthouses, buried 16/11/1900
Robert Beveridge, aged 6, Newton Loan Hosp. Cockpen, buried 19/11/1901
Mary Beveridge, aged 1 day, Dean park, buried 17/8/1910

Plot 16/18 = no headstone
Robert Beveridge, aged 9 m, Easthouses, buried 25/12/1869
Robert Beveridge, aged 10m. Easthouses, buried 26/5/1890
Mary Beveridge, aged 21, Newtongrange, buried 22/8/1920


No BURT burials or headstones recorded

regards

Carol
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: beansgram on Monday 05 December 11 03:23 GMT (UK)
Would there be any Drylie's buried there. Thank you for the info on the beverages.  Beans
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: teesdale on Monday 05 December 11 09:06 GMT (UK)
Hi,

Plt 15/24 - no headstone

Marion Drylie aged 48. Barleyknowe, interred 3/3/1886

and buried but location unknown

Peter Drylie aged 10d, Newtongrange, buried 11/3/1862
Peter Drylie aged 28, Newtongrange, buried 7/7/1863

regards

Carol
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: aodh on Monday 05 December 11 23:19 GMT (UK)
Hi Carol
Thanks for the lookup. The John Penman can't be Martha's Husband as he was still living when she died in 1832. As for the Sommerville/Somerville clan I'll have to figure out who's who.

Eugene ;)
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: beansgram on Monday 05 December 11 23:28 GMT (UK)
Carol. Thanks for the inf on the Drylie Hynd and Beveridge burials I appreciate the help.   Kathi
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: hiszafer on Wednesday 28 December 11 19:58 GMT (UK)
Hi Carol. I grew up in Dalkeith and now live in Canada. I wish I had been interested in genealogy when I lived there... I have researched my Lockhart family and have an enormous amount of information. I'm sure there will be Lockharts buried there - a high percentage of the men were miners. Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: seidkona on Tuesday 03 January 12 13:48 GMT (UK)
Dear all,
Monica has just pointed me here after I posted a message about burials in Cockpen and Newbattle.
I'm looking for anybody of the name CARSE (CASS, CARSS, CARS, occasionally with a K) in the 17th and 18th centuries, in Newbattle of Cockpen. Most common first name is Mark, but there were the usual others (John, Janet, George..) Also Isobella Nicolson who died around 1711, Marion Fowls/Foulis dying probably later, and any association of Carse and Douglas.

Please can anybody help?
Best and Happy New Year,
Jenny
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: renton-worldchamps on Tuesday 01 May 12 18:07 BST (UK)
I have details on death certs for John Penman Wilson (d1858), Christina Muir Wilson, d1859 and Robert Wilson d 1860. All say buried in Newbattle churchyard. Are there any details on gravestones for Wilson family?

Douglas
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: Daphne Fan on Sunday 09 December 12 01:55 GMT (UK)
Hi,
 I have just discovered this post and hope the offer still is open.
Burial of John Bruce who died on 18 Jan1881 his wife was Margaret who died 7 Sept 1878 they were living at Easthouses, Newbattle. He was a miner.
With thanks, Kerri
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: MonicaL on Sunday 09 December 12 09:34 GMT (UK)
Hi everyone and welcome to RootsChat if it is your first posting  :)

Just wanted to add a note that Carol (teesdale) has not been back online here on RootsChat since December 2011. Hopefully she will be back online here soon but she may not be receiving notifications about posting here (if, for example, she has changed her email or internet provider etc.).

Monica

Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: charlie123 on Monday 10 December 12 09:22 GMT (UK)
hi, i am looking for a burial place for david murray he married isabel wood in cockpen in 1806.
many thanks

charlie123
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: lynt_1 on Thursday 14 February 13 05:55 GMT (UK)
Have both indexes and willing do to look-ups.

Hi Elaine,
If offer still open I am trying to locate  William SIMPSON b. abt 1730 and wife Marion LAING. The only child I know of is daughter Margaret who married James HUME in 1752. He was a schoolmaster at Lasswade. I would appreciate any knowledge of SIMPSON or LAING burials.
TIA Lyn
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: Helen07 on Friday 19 April 13 19:35 BST (UK)
Hello
What a lovely offer, if you dont mind im looking for and have been for years, David young or williamson as it comes up sometimes parents. David died in Newton in 1849 from Asthma, informant being His son andrew young.
if he has a grave maybe there is others there named, his daughter margaret is also in cemetery at Newton.  I believe David was 68 when he died, his wife was Marion Selkirk.....married in Duddingston.
Thank you
Helen
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: Elaine48 on Saturday 17 August 13 06:15 BST (UK)
Hi,
 I have just discovered this post and hope the offer still is open.
Burial of John Bruce who died on 18 Jan 1881 his wife was Margaret who died 7 Sept 1878 they were living at Easthouses, Newbattle. He was a miner.
With thanks, Kerri

Sorry just saw this. I don't receive notifications & rarely look on here any more. If you still want burial details here they are:

Plot # 8/4 Stephen Bruce aged 47 Newtongrange, interred 2/10/1897
               Janet Bruce aged 71, Newtongrange, interred 25/07/1925

Plot # 8/5 Margaret Bruce aged 70 Easthouses, interred 10/09/1878
               Georgina Bruce aged 15 Newtongrange, interred 4/12/1895

Plot # 8/6 Ellen Robertson, aged 80, Barleyknowe, interred 20/08/1870
               John Bruce aged 1 month, Dalkeith, interred 2/11/1871
               John Bruce aged 76, Easthouses, interred 20/01/1881
               Mary Bruce aged 11 months, Newtongrange, interred 8/10/1891
               Margaret Carswell, aged 72, Monkswood, interred 2/09/1907

Were John & Margaret the parents of Violet Bruce b. 1831 & married to George Brown? If so they are in my tree!
Elaine
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: Elaine48 on Saturday 17 August 13 06:27 BST (UK)
Hello
What a lovely offer, if you dont mind im looking for and have been for years, David young or williamson as it comes up sometimes parents. David died in Newton in 1849 from Asthma, informant being His son andrew young.
if he has a grave maybe there is others there named, his daughter margaret is also in cemetery at Newton.  I believe David was 68 when he died, his wife was Marion Selkirk.....married in Duddingston.
Thank you
Helen

Have I already answered this one because your names are highlighted in my book? Sorry if this is a repeat. David Young he was buried July 1 1849, in Newton New grave yard, 185s3.
His wife Marion is buried in Lair 170s3. There is several Margaret's. One if Margaret Young, died aged 34 of dropsy, sister to Andrew Young. Buried Dec 2 1852 in Lair 170s2. There is most likely no stone. I've been to the Newton graveyards many times and only the wealthier could afford headstones. I personally have 100's of family members buried there and not one has a stone.
Elaine
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: Elaine48 on Saturday 17 August 13 06:31 BST (UK)
hi, i am looking for a burial place for david murray he married isabel wood in cockpen in 1806.
many thanks

charlie123
Not in either index sorry
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: Elaine48 on Saturday 17 August 13 06:53 BST (UK)
Have both indexes and willing do to look-ups.

Hi Elaine,
If offer still open I am trying to locate  William SIMPSON b. abt 1730 and wife Marion LAING. The only child I know of is daughter Margaret who married James HUME in 1752. He was a schoolmaster at Lasswade. I would appreciate any knowledge of SIMPSON or LAING burials.
TIA Lyn

Newton Index:
Marion Laing unknown age, Address, Woolmet Newton, date of death, Dec 1752; date of burial, Dec 21st 1752, Burial Place, Liberton, Other info: Spouse to William Simpson
Only 2 Humes in Newton, a Campbell & Marion.
There are several children listed with a William Simpson as father but no way of knowing if it's the same family.
No Simpson's or Humes' to match in Newbattle index
Elaine
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: suzilad on Wednesday 21 August 13 22:22 BST (UK)


Hi Elaine,
              Would be very grateful if you would do a look up for me for Peacocks in Newton and Newbattle for c 1785-1810  parents names were John Peacock and Rosanna Brown.I have found the births but having difficulty finding deaths.

               I have many ancestors who died in Newbattle and would be very grateful if you could tell me where you bought your list .

Thanks.

suzilad
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: Elaine48 on Thursday 22 August 13 00:01 BST (UK)
Hi, I got the info for Rosy Brown in my own tree!

OPR death record:

DOD: 19th April 1842
DOB: 22nd April 1842
Name: Rosana Brown
Address: Easthouses, Newbattle
Informant: John Peacock, son
COD: water in chest (prob. pneumonia)
Age: 82 yrs

Let me look & see if I can find John's info. Which one of their children are you descended from?
A friend of mine has worked for the Lothians FHS for years and she actually transcribed the Newton death index so I was lucky to get copies of both that & the Newbattle index from her. However, I think they are now available from the website: http://www.lothiansfhs.org/node/277

Elaine



Hi Elaine,
              Would be very grateful if you would do a look up for me for Peacocks in Newton and Newbattle for c 1785-1810  parents names were John Peacock and Rosanna Brown.I have found the births but having difficulty finding deaths.

               I have many ancestors who died in Newbattle and would be very grateful if you could tell me where you bought your list .

Thanks.

suzilad
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: suzilad on Thursday 22 August 13 09:58 BST (UK)
Hi Elaine,
            Thank you for the info. on Rosy Brown/Peacock -- I have all the children I think  but have no

information on any of them except John Peacock and Janet Wilson -- my ggg grandparents.

Who is yours ?

Great to meet up with you.

suzilad

Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: Elaine48 on Saturday 24 August 13 04:23 BST (UK)
My connection isn't direct but the families were all intermingled. I haven't looked at that part of my tree for years, but now I find a dilemma. I've found 2 possible deaths for Rosy Brown/Peacock. Can you send me an email so I can share it with you and maybe you can figure it out.

Thanks
Elaine
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Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: suzilad on Saturday 24 August 13 10:58 BST (UK)


Hi Elaine,
            Email on it's way shortly -- yes they were certainly intermingled .

            Thanks,


             suzilad
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: CelticMom on Thursday 27 November 14 18:37 GMT (UK)
Not sure if you are still doing lookups or how far back they go for newton, but would be interesting in the following names

John Reid and his wife Janet Reid (m.s Stevenson)

there children are:

Barbra born 1760 - inveresk with musselburgh
Janet  born 1761 - newton
Margaret  born 1764 - newton
William born 1766 - newton
marjory born 1769 - newton
robert  born 1771 - newton
jean born 1773 - newton
John born 1778 - newton

anything on them too would be great. Obviously the females may of married so those may not be found.

thanks
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: Elaine48 on Thursday 27 November 14 21:19 GMT (UK)
Not sure if you are still doing lookups or how far back they go for newton, but would be interesting in the following names

John Reid and his wife Janet Reid (m.s Stevenson)

there children are:

Barbra born 1760 - inveresk with musselburgh
Janet  born 1761 - newton
Margaret  born 1764 - newton
William born 1766 - newton
marjory born 1769 - newton
robert  born 1771 - newton
jean born 1773 - newton
John born 1778 - newton

anything on them too would be great. Obviously the females may of married so those may not be found.

thanks

I looked all those up in the Newton index & there were none that matched the DOB etc. But then there are some individuals who's name is just listed and nothing else. There is also a huge chunk of  burials missing between around 1800-1805 or so. If you have more information ie. were they a mining family, did they move to Newbattle & what the daughters married names were I might be able to help more. If you do please PM me. Thanks
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: CelticMom on Thursday 27 November 14 21:47 GMT (UK)
Thanks, they didn't move to new battle as far as I am aware.

Parents John and Janet were inkeepers in hairlaw, Newton
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: Elaine48 on Thursday 27 November 14 23:21 GMT (UK)
Thanks, they didn't move to new battle as far as I am aware.

Parents John and Janet were inkeepers in hairlaw, Newton

Margaret Reid, died April 1766 in Newton, daughter of John Reid
Janet Reid, died March 1769, in Newton daughter of John Reid
John Reid, died Dec 12 1831 in Claybarns, father of John Reid

There are lots more but without more information, hard to tell if they are yours or not. Reid was a common name.
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: CelticMom on Friday 28 November 14 13:52 GMT (UK)
Thanks I will check those out
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: aodh on Sunday 18 October 15 22:16 BST (UK)
I believe the one gravestone on Plot A194 are my folks. -Thanks very much!

Would there be any record of a Rev. David Gilchrist (1721-1770) who may have died while at that charge?
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: Annawhitabit on Sunday 19 February 17 22:59 GMT (UK)
Hello; Just new to RC.  Seeking info from Burial Index for William Ramage d 1854 & his wife Jean (Jane) Irvine Ramage d 1860.  Both death records state Newbattle Cemetery.  Can anyone assist me with a look up?  Thank you :-)
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: Elaine48 on Sunday 19 February 17 23:50 GMT (UK)
Sorry but I have the Newbattle New Graveyard Index and neither William or Jane are listed. With those dates I think they are probably in the old churchyard. I have no idea if those have been indexed yet.
Elaine

Hello; Just new to RC.  Seeking info from Burial Index for William Ramage d 1854 & his wife Jean (Jane) Irvine Ramage d 1860.  Both death records state Newbattle Cemetery.  Can anyone assist me with a look up?  Thank you :-)
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: Annawhitabit on Sunday 19 February 17 23:58 GMT (UK)
Thank you for your time.  I will keep searching as I am planning a visit there this year. :-)
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: Elaine48 on Monday 20 February 17 05:27 GMT (UK)
The old cemetery is right next to the new one. But be careful. The ground in the old one is very unstable, most of the stones are unreadable and lying on the ground. Also unless they were wealthy there probably isn't a stone. They would just have been buried in an unmarked plot. So don't be disappointed if you don't find them.  Best just to get the death record from Scotlandspeople. Or if you're going to Register House ask if they have an index for the old burial ground. Best of luck, Elaine

Thank you for your time.  I will keep searching as I am planning a visit there this year. :-)
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: Gavin Wilson on Thursday 06 February 20 19:22 GMT (UK)
Looking to trace a headstone and Information of a James Stewart & Janet Renton.
I suspect they were buried in Newbattle/Stobhill between 1880-1900
Children: Jean, Marion, James, William, Adam, Elizabeth, Isabella, Margaret, Williamina.
They lived from Penicuik, Roslin, Lasswade, Stobhill.
(Albeit: I can only find a death with the name Janet Denholm, still working on seeing if the same person)
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: Elaine48 on Friday 07 February 20 01:31 GMT (UK)
Hi Gavin,

If this is the correct couple, they are buried in Lair 9/29. Newbattle Old Churchyard.
James Stewart, aged 70, Newbyres, interred 19/07/1882. Harold P. Stewart. aged 1. Gorebridge, interred 11.05/1898. Janet Stewart, aged 78, Hunterfield, interred 6/02/1900. Ellen R. Stewart, aged 3, Hunterfield, interred 5/11/1904.

Elaine


Looking to trace a headstone and Information of a James Stewart & Janet Renton.
I suspect they were buried in Newbattle/Stobhill between 1880-1900
Children: Jean, Marion, James, William, Adam, Elizabeth, Isabella, Margaret, Williamina.
They lived from Penicuik, Roslin, Lasswade, Stobhill.
(Albeit: I can only find a death with the name Janet Denholm, still working on seeing if the same person)
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: Gavin Wilson on Sunday 07 February 21 23:14 GMT (UK)
Thank You Elaine, apologies for the very late reply, I don't seem to get a massage from rootschat to my emails. This is indeed the grave of my 3rd Great Grandparents. When lockdown is over i am going to visit as I'd like to pay my respects and take photo of their headstone.

Is it possible to get a copy of the Index. I'd like to check for any other members. My email is *, if not, thanks for your trouble, so appreciated.

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Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: Elaine48 on Monday 08 February 21 01:17 GMT (UK)
Check your email Gavin. I've sent you the link.  :)
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: pathas66 on Sunday 21 February 21 13:02 GMT (UK)
I am looking for a grave from 1883 he died a nearby at 7 Lothian Road at the home of his sister in law Hellen Hay.
Are there any graves for Hays or Duncans in either graveyard?
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: Elaine48 on Wednesday 24 February 21 04:25 GMT (UK)
The Newton burials are only up to 1854. There are no Hays in Newbattle but many Duncans. Need more info, like the first name?
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: pathas66 on Wednesday 24 February 21 09:48 GMT (UK)
James Duncan 1850-1883
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: Elaine48 on Thursday 25 February 21 19:11 GMT (UK)
Newbattle graveyard
Plot 25/11

James Duncan, aged 32, Lothian Bridge, interred 18/9/1883

He is in the same grave as Catherine Cunningham, aged 65, Old Blinkbonny, interred 14/09/1873
Also 5 Liddle children, & Thomas Liddle aged 78; Elspit Duncan, age 88, Edinburgh, interred 16/01/1940
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: pathas66 on Thursday 25 February 21 23:23 GMT (UK)
thank you Elaine this solves a mystery and asks more...
I do not know who the cunninghams are?
Is there a gravestone?
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: Elaine48 on Friday 26 February 21 02:33 GMT (UK)
Yes there is - or was once. It was a large one with a plinth taking up 2 spaces. Also forgot to mention I did find Hays in the index.

25/10 is recorded as the plinth:
Sacred to the memory of Janet Burnside, wife of Thomas Liddle who died at Newtongrange, 27 Nov. 1891 aged 68 yrs. Thomas Liddle, Newtongrange, who died 10 Nov 1894, aged 68 years.

Robert Hay, aged 3m, interred 13/9/1886
Liddle, stillborn, Newtongrange, interred 22/11/1890
Mary Ann Liddle, aged 50, Crawlees, interred 13/5/1910
Pole, stillborn, Abbeyland, interred 27/7/1914
Thomas Liddle, aged 71, Crawlees, interred 24/10/1931
In memory of William Liddle, who died at Hunterfield, 25th February, 1858, aged 48 years
and of Helen Lindsay his wife who died 6th March 1864 aged 55 years.

The rest is the info I gave you previously.

Many of my own family are buried there including my 2nd great-grandparents. In the same plot as them are 3 of my gr/grandfather's cousin's wives, the child of one of the wives and a male cousin. So my bet is that James Duncan was inter-related to the Liddle's in some way.
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: pathas66 on Friday 02 April 21 10:03 BST (UK)
Thank you for your help.
Is the plinth still there?
I have found out a lot more now but can I ask for a bit more information?

I have worked out that my great-grandmother Elspeth Andersons's sister Hellen Hay nee Anderson was a servant to Margaret Craig at Craigash and her husband James hay was the mills joiner. They moved to New Monkland when the paper mil l moved there. However another of the Andersons also moved to Newbattle then vanished are there any Anderson graves in the churchyard?
My grandad died at 7 Lothian Bridge which on the census is Craigash. Are there any photos of the house?
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: Gavin Wilson on Monday 05 April 21 17:52 BST (UK)
I visited the Newbattle Old Cemetery recently, but without being able to find my family plot and headstone. I wrote to Midlothian Council who replied with a copy of the layout by plots. I've attached a PDF file of the layout to help people potential locate plots if you know the plot number.

When I visited Newbattle and Lasswade I took some random pictures, uploaded then to find-a-grave with a little research. I also found out about neighbouring plots to my James Stewart and have added them also with some research. I hope to revisit and take much much more pictures and upload them to Find a Grave which I use because it freely available with minimal ads and easy to use.

I am still trying to see if any other of my Stewart Family are in this cemetery.
My unaccounted for Family
Jane Stewart (b.1839 Penicuik) entry in 1841 census (suspect died before 1851)
Marion Stewart (b.abt 1841 Lasswade - 1913 Colinton, Edinburgh) married James McDougal
James Stewart (b.1843 Newton Village) entry in 1851 census only
Janet Stewart (b.abt 1845 Lasswade) entry in 1851 census only
William Stewart (b.abt 1848 Roslin) entry 1851 & 1861 only
Adam Stewart (b.abt 1850 Roslin - d.1925 Lasswade) married Helen Reid
Elizabeth Stewart (b.abt 1853 Lasswade) entry 1861 & 1881 only (married Griffin but not UK records)
Isabella Stewart (b.1856 Lasswade - 1887 Dalmeny, near Queensferry)
Margaret Stewart (b.1862 Lasswade) Suspect she married a John Murray Leishman both died at Errol
Jessie Williamina Stewart (b. 1866 Lasswade - d.1907 St George Edinburgh) spinster

Elizabeth Griffin nče Stewart is someone I really want to find out more about but have hit a road block. She had a daughter Eliza (1879 Stobhill - 1882 Borthwick) and a son Charles (1877 Stobhill - 1945 Edinburgh) he married a Isabella Adams.
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: Elaine48 on Tuesday 06 April 21 03:25 BST (UK)
Hi Gavin,
These are from an old burial index I have. Can't remember where I got it from. As you can see there isn't many Stewarts in this one but I will look in the other index too.

3114   Stewart   John   ng   ng   1717-02-14   1717-02-15   Newbattle   Mortcloth Ł2
3115   Stewart   John   ng   Gibraltar   1811-01-ng   1811-01-09   Newbattle   Mortcloth 10/3d
3116   Stewart   ng   ng   Blackcot   1818-03-ng   1818-03-30   Newbattle   Child of Thomas Stewart, mortcloth 1/3d
3117   Stewart   M.   75   Bonnyrigg, Cockpen   1842-03-03   1842-03-07   Newbattle   Informant, John Romans, friend, dropsy
3118   Stewart   Elizabeth   75   Newbattle, Newbattle   1844-02-19   1844-02-23   Newbattle   Informant, William Oliver, son
3119   Stewart   Margaret   9   Eldindean, Lasswade   1848-08-14   1848-08-17   Newbattle   Informant, James Stewart, father, fever
3120   Stewart   Thomas   20m   Eldindean, Lasswade   1848-10-29   1848-10-31   Newbattle   Informant, James Stewart, father, decline
3121   Stewart   Lewis   2   Brewer's Bush, Cockpen   1852-05-09   1852-05-10   Newbattle   Informant, Lewis Stewart, father, measles
3146   Stuart   ng   ng   Easthouses, Newbattle   1761-05-16   1761-05-17   Newbattle   Child of Janet Stuart, decay
3147   Stuart   Janet   ng   ng   1770-05-ng   1770-05-29   Newbattle   Coffin 5/-
3148   Stuart   ng   ng   ng   1781-03-ng   1781-03-25   Newbattle   Child of James Stuart, mortcloth 1/3d
3149   Stuart   ng   ng   ng   1794-01-ng   1794-01-19   Newbattle   Child of Charles Stuart, mortcloth 1/3d
3150   Stuart   ng   ng   ng   1796-10-ng   1796-10-02   Newbattle   Child of James Stuart, mortcloth 1/3d
3151   Stuart   ng   ng   ng   1798-10-ng   1798-10-28   Newbattle   Child of Chson Stuart, mortcloth 1/3d
3152   Stuer or Stuart   ng   ng   Newbattle   1763-07-26   1763-07-27   Newbattle   Child of John Stuart, drug (dreig) pox









I visited the Newbattle Old Cemetery recently, but without being able to find my family plot and headstone. I wrote to Midlothian Council who replied with a copy of the layout by plots. I've attached a PDF file of the layout to help people potential locate plots if you know the plot number.

When I visited Newbattle and Lasswade I took some random pictures, uploaded then to find-a-grave with a little research. I also found out about neighbouring plots to my James Stewart and have added them also with some research. I hope to revisit and take much much more pictures and upload them to Find a Grave which I use because it freely available with minimal ads and easy to use.

I am still trying to see if any other of my Stewart Family are in this cemetery.
My unaccounted for Family
Jane Stewart (b.1839 Penicuik) entry in 1841 census (suspect died before 1851)
Marion Stewart (b.abt 1841 Lasswade - 1913 Colinton, Edinburgh) married James McDougal
James Stewart (b.1843 Newton Village) entry in 1851 census only
Janet Stewart (b.abt 1845 Lasswade) entry in 1851 census only
William Stewart (b.abt 1848 Roslin) entry 1851 & 1861 only
Adam Stewart (b.abt 1850 Roslin - d.1925 Lasswade) married Helen Reid
Elizabeth Stewart (b.abt 1853 Lasswade) entry 1861 & 1881 only (married Griffin but not UK records)
Isabella Stewart (b.1856 Lasswade - 1887 Dalmeny, near Queensferry)
Margaret Stewart (b.1862 Lasswade) Suspect she married a John Murray Leishman both died at Errol
Jessie Williamina Stewart (b. 1866 Lasswade - d.1907 St George Edinburgh) spinster

Elizabeth Griffin nče Stewart is someone I really want to find out more about but have hit a road block. She had a daughter Eliza (1879 Stobhill - 1882 Borthwick) and a son Charles (1877 Stobhill - 1945 Edinburgh) he married a Isabella Adams.
Title: Re: Burial Index's for Newbattle and Newton
Post by: Eastlea191 on Monday 24 January 22 20:04 GMT (UK)
i'd appreciate a lookup in the Newbattle burial index for any Russels or Moffat.  I saw a date on Ancestry that suggested that William Russel died in Newbattle in 1766 with no source.  William Russel married Christian Moffat in 1750 and had a large family in Newbattle.

Thanks

Debbie