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Title: 1861/71 census look up please
Post by: geno500 on Friday 14 November 08 15:52 GMT (UK)
Hi have a branch of the Coaker clan who are living around Beesands I am looking for a William Coaker who was born around 1854/5 , I have him in 1891 in north yorkshire, I think the family will be either fishermen or sailors.
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Title: Re: 1861/71 census look up please
Post by: patrish on Friday 14 November 08 16:12 GMT (UK)
What is his place of birth on the 1891 census please  ???
Title: Re: 1861/71 census look up please
Post by: geno500 on Friday 14 November 08 16:18 GMT (UK)
Hi not given I believe  he is at Middlesbourgh rg12/4016 folio 59 page 31 aged 35 he was a steelworks sailorman in 1901 aged 45 he is at Eston north yorkshire as a grocer  it is here he says Beesands for place of birth.
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Title: Re: 1861/71 census look up please
Post by: Necromancer on Friday 14 November 08 16:20 GMT (UK)
1891 - PoB is Kingsbridge ....
Title: Re: 1861/71 census look up please
Post by: 'Tricia on Friday 14 November 08 16:20 GMT (UK)
This is the only near miss I can see - nothing else fits and it could be a mistake on the part of the enumerator when writing out the original entry

It looks like Crocker but......................


1861


Cottage, Stokenham Devon



William Crocker Head 33 Fisherman born Beesands
Susan wife 29 Fisherman's wife born Slapton Devon
William son 6 born Beesands Devon
Peter son 3 born Beesands
Susan dau 1 born Beesands

RG9 1423 Folio 74 Page 9

This information ties in with his birth entry on FamilySearch where birthplace is given as Beesands, Kingsbridge Devon

Tricia
Title: Re: 1861/71 census look up please
Post by: patrish on Friday 14 November 08 16:22 GMT (UK)
Just looked at that entry... it reads William Coaker h.m. 35 Steelworks Sailorman?  Devon, Kingsbridge.
Title: Re: 1861/71 census look up please
Post by: geno500 on Friday 14 November 08 16:27 GMT (UK)
Thanks alot  looks like you have found him ,even with a slight name change . thats great.
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Title: Re: 1861/71 census look up please
Post by: Necromancer on Friday 14 November 08 16:29 GMT (UK)
Theres another Coaker nearby in 1901, an Alfred 1867 also born Bee Sands ....


and a George 1852 in Middleboro ...
Title: Re: 1861/71 census look up please
Post by: Necromancer on Friday 14 November 08 16:35 GMT (UK)
still in Stokenham, but spelled Cocker in 1871, an Alfred born 1867 in the family ..

RG10; Piece: 2100; Folio: 76; Page: 9
Title: Re: 1861/71 census look up please
Post by: 'Tricia on Friday 14 November 08 16:38 GMT (UK)
Other children born to William Coaker and Susan Cole


Thomas 1862 Born Stokenham
Caroline 1864 born Stokenham


William married Elizabeth Anderson  20 AUG 1883   Middlesbrough, Yorkshire,
 


Tricia
Title: Re: 1861/71 census look up please
Post by: 'Tricia on Friday 14 November 08 16:44 GMT (UK)
Still spelt as Crocker


1871


William Crocker age 15
Boy 2nd class on board the 'Implacable' Hamoaze, Devon
born Beesands Devon

RG10/ 2141 Folio 67 Page 32

Can't trace him in 1881 so unless anyone else can see him would suggest he is at sea



Tricia
Title: Re: 1861/71 census look up please
Post by: geno500 on Friday 14 November 08 16:45 GMT (UK)
looks like you have all found something,will have to  work harder on this line from now on,thank you all .
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Title: Re: 1861/71 census look up please
Post by: Barbara Ender Jones on Saturday 29 February 20 16:46 GMT (UK)
I am also looking for information about the Crocker/Coaker family, originally from Beesands in Devon. We have traced the family back through three generations of Ephaphras to Henry Crocker, born 3.4.1743 and Mary Thombs. My great-great-grandfather William Crocker, b. 4.5.1828 married Susan Cole. Was it this Susan who ran a pub in Beesands? Their son Alfred Coaker (so why the name change? maybe just a mistake on a handwritten form...) was born 3.3.1867. He married Mary Ann Jessop b. 1.6.1872, they lived in South Bank, near Middlesbrough, first on West Terrace, then on Pearl Street, later on Costa Street. He was a fisherman and wore a navy blue jumper, though was listed in 1921 as a labourer. They had several children, including my grandmother Florence Mahalia Coaker (married William Prosser). Her sisters were Sarah (who married a Jackson, many children all brought up in the South Bank/Middlesbrough area), May (don't know married name, son Alistair), and Mary (Jinks, no children). Great grandma Coaker made icecream in their back yard and it was either Alfred's brother or perhaps a son, who had lost a leg, and who went round the streets selling it from a cart. I knew grandma Coaker but unfortunately Alfred had died before I was born (1947). I am very curious about the name Epaphras and how it came into the family - chosen with a pin from the bible? I think it only appears there once.
Title: Re: 1861/71 census look up please
Post by: geno500 on Sunday 08 March 20 08:51 GMT (UK)
Hi Barbara,I am a long way from my family history,but as I remember it,there were either two Coaker  brothers or cousins,who went from Devon to the North East I think they both married up there but only one stayed the other came back to Devon,with regard Alfred born 1867 find it hard to believe he got married at 5 years of age  :o I think one of them married at Normanton,,I do not believe I ever found the connection to Beesands,do you have the Mary Ann Jessop marriage cert does it say Alfred was born Beesands? just a thought but Coaker is a Devon name it is possible that a non local clergy,put down Coaker instead of Crocker because it sounded like it,and in that era many people could not read,still it has awakened this line again,I will try to get to my old computer and see what I have.
Best Regards Brian Coaker
Title: Re: 1861/71 census look up please
Post by: Barbara Ender Jones on Sunday 08 March 20 11:21 GMT (UK)
Brian, happy to "meet" another Coaker. The other date given is the birth date of his wife, I'm not saying he got married age 5! Unfortunately I don't have their marriage certificate, just a family tree telling me that Alfred Coaker was the son of William Crocker and Susan Cole, and he married Mary Ann Jessop daughter of Samuel Jessop and Susannah Coleman.

I know that William was born in Beesands in 1828 and died there in 1890, and that his siblings were:
Henry b 1819
John b 1820
John b 1824 (why two Johns? strange.)
Susanna b 1826
Samuel b 1830
George b 1835
Elizabeth Jane b. 1838
As William lived and died in Beesands I presume that Alfred was born there.

This family is descended from Henry Crocker born in Dartmouth 1743 and Mary Thombs (no details known)