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Title: Hawkhead mental hospital
Post by: ragdollrosie on Monday 17 November 08 17:08 GMT (UK)
Hi can anyone advise me as to where I can find any info on this hospital. I have a relative John Gallagher who died here in the 1950's.
Many thanks Rose x
Title: Re: Hawkhead mental hospital
Post by: daval57 on Monday 17 November 08 17:28 GMT (UK)
I might be wrong but is Hawkhead not the same as Leverndale off Crookston Road in Cardonald?
Title: Re: Hawkhead mental hospital
Post by: daval57 on Monday 17 November 08 17:31 GMT (UK)
This might help.
http://www.archives.gla.ac.uk/gghb/collects/hb24.html

http://www.theglasgowstory.com/image.php?inum=TGSG00005
Title: Re: Hawkhead mental hospital
Post by: RJ_Paton on Monday 17 November 08 18:10 GMT (UK)
I might be wrong but is Hawkhead not the same as Leverndale off Crookston Road in Cardonald?

You're right - Hawkhead was an earlier name for Leverndale Hospital - their laundry and insignia bore the head of a hawk (My mother was a nurse there).

It's possible that the early records of the hospital are now held by Glasgow University although I believe there is a 100 yr closure on personal medical records.
Title: Re: Hawkhead mental hospital
Post by: ragdollrosie on Monday 17 November 08 22:11 GMT (UK)
Many thanks for the reply it was very interesting to read about the hospital. I had not hard of it , and did not even know where in Scotland it was situated.

Rose x :)
Title: Re: Hawkhead mental hospital
Post by: RJ_Paton on Monday 17 November 08 22:53 GMT (UK)
Although Leverndale Hospital still exists it is in a much reduced capacity and is used for far more than mental health problems.

The original wards were named after Scottish Counties and areas and he grounds were so extensive it had its own private 9 hole golf course for staff.

Most of the grounds have been sold off and several private housing developments now take their place. Some of the larger ward buildings have ben converted to flats.
Title: Re: Hawkhead mental hospital
Post by: ragdollrosie on Monday 17 November 08 23:04 GMT (UK)
It looks a much nicer place today then the other photo I looked at on the website. Can anybody tell me where a person may have been buried if they died there?
I don't know much about John, his other siblings emigrated from Ireland to USA, I don't know if he had his own family to bury him yet!
Title: Re: Hawkhead mental hospital
Post by: RJ_Paton on Monday 17 November 08 23:20 GMT (UK)
Regarding burial places a lot would depend upon whether there were any family alive to take responsibility for the funeral. In those cases the deceased would have been buried where the family decided and relative to the parish/area where they lived.

If there was no family or next of kin the council would arrange the funeral and there are several cemeteries nearby. The two closest are in Cardonald  and off of Berryknowes Road (Crematorium)   
Title: Re: Hawkhead mental hospital
Post by: daval57 on Tuesday 18 November 08 00:07 GMT (UK)
I think the crematorium off Berryknowes Rd is / was also a cemetery (Craigton).
 
Title: Re: Hawkhead mental hospital
Post by: RJ_Paton on Tuesday 18 November 08 13:28 GMT (UK)
I think the crematorium off Berryknowes Rd is / was also a cemetery (Craigton).
 

It is ..... long day and mind went blank.

Originally a private cemetery/crematorium it is now run by Glasgow Council (or a company owned by them) and over the last few years a lot of the neglect which made the place an eyesore has been dealt with.
Title: Re: Hawkhead mental hospital
Post by: rainbowbright on Monday 01 December 08 18:02 GMT (UK)
Hi

If I am right, Hawkhead mental hospital is now the Accord Hospice on Hawkhead Road , Paisley.

There is also a cemetery on Hawkhead Road.  It is too late tonight but a phone call to the Hospice would give you a definate answer.

Let me know if you want me to call the Hospice tomorrow.

Regards
Carol   :)

Ps  If you can get hold of a Glasgow A - Z ( the blue and red one)  it shows the hospital beside the cemetry in square E3.  It is back to back with Leverndale.
Title: Re: Hawkhead mental hospital
Post by: rainbowbright on Tuesday 02 December 08 07:21 GMT (UK)
Hi

I am not sure if the hospital is still in use as there is now a big housing development in progress but the Accord Hospice is there.

Dykebar hospital is nearby.

Carol
Title: Re: Hawkhead mental hospital
Post by: RJ_Paton on Tuesday 02 December 08 18:15 GMT (UK)
Hi

If I am right, Hawkhead mental hospital is now the Accord Hospice on Hawkhead Road , Paisley.

There is also a cemetery on Hawkhead Road.  It is too late tonight but a phone call to the Hospice would give you a definate answer.

Let me know if you want me to call the Hospice tomorrow.

Regards
Carol   :)

Ps  If you can get hold of a Glasgow A - Z ( the blue and red one)  it shows the hospital beside the cemetry in square E3.  It is back to back with Leverndale.


That hospital was the other Hawkhead and was initially an infectious diseases hospital with the wards all separated in individual buildings.

Given the close proximity of both hospitals it is possible that when both were in Renfrewshire that they may have formed part of the one complex with the mental health areas situated off of crookston road and the Infectious diseases unit located off of hawkhead Road. This would have changed with the boudary changes in the 1920's which saw Glasgow absorb huge areas of Renfrewshire and the boundary between Glasgow and Renfrewshire is now the only boundary between the two areas.

Most of the hospital grounds have been sold off for housing and the Accord hospice which used to be accessed from Hawkhead Road is now open from the other end.
Title: Re: Hawkhead mental hospital
Post by: pancho on Tuesday 02 December 08 18:21 GMT (UK)
Wasnt Hawkhead renamed Leverndale Hospital (which still survives to this day )apologies if im mistaken
Title: Re: Hawkhead mental hospital
Post by: RJ_Paton on Tuesday 02 December 08 18:42 GMT (UK)
Wasnt Hawkhead renamed Leverndale Hospital (which still survives to this day )apologies if im mistaken

You are correct - Leverndale was called Hawkhead right into the 1960's . My grandfather who developed Alzheimers died there and my mother was a nurse there.
Title: Re: Hawkhead mental hospital
Post by: rainbowbright on Tuesday 02 December 08 19:35 GMT (UK)
Hi

It was the Paisley Infectious Diseases Hopsital that was renamed Hawkhead when Leverndale changed its name in 1964. This caused confusion when patients were sent to the wrong hospitals.

As Ragdollrosies original post was concerning a relative who died at Hawkhead in the 1950's it would appear that he died at the renamed Leverndale Hospital.  Hospital records (if any) may show where he is buried.
Title: Re: Hawkhead mental hospital
Post by: joywheel on Sunday 04 January 09 21:50 GMT (UK)
Hawkhead Hospital was in Paisley.  It was a mental hospital, but by the 1950's it was an infectious diseases hospital. People went there to recuperate from various illnesses such as TB.  It was built in the 1930's  - the architect was one of my forebears.  My father recoverd there from a bout of some tropical disease that he caught in Burma during the second world war.  It was a series of buildings set in lovely grounds, and on sunny days the beds were wheeled out onto neat green lawns so that the patients could get sunshine and fresh air.  Sadly, the place has been torn down to make way for houses.
Title: Re: Hawkhead mental hospital
Post by: joywheel on Sunday 04 January 09 22:00 GMT (UK)
It's certainly confusing. Hawkhead is an area of Paisley, Renfrewshire, and was always the name of the hospital in Hawkhead Road.  Not sure about connection with Leverndale, whose buildings are much older.  As my father spent many months in the Infectious diseases part when I was a child I knew the place well  and never remember any part which was a mental hospital.  The two mental hospitals for Paisley were Riccitsbar and Dykebar.  Leverndale I think housed people with learning disability ( though that had a pretty wide definition - unmarried pregnant girls and people with epilepsy often ended up there).  THe museum of Social Work, if it still exists, will have info on Leverndale. It was part of Hunterian Museum at University of Glasgow, I think.
Title: Re: Hawkhead mental hospital
Post by: pancho on Monday 05 January 09 21:07 GMT (UK)
Hawkhead and Leverndale are only a mile apart as the crow flies I live near both but Im positive the Main building of Leverndale was once named Hawkhead
Title: Re: Hawkhead mental hospital
Post by: RJ_Paton on Monday 05 January 09 21:18 GMT (UK)
Hawkhead and Leverndale are only a mile apart as the crow flies I live near both but Im positive the Main building of Leverndale was once named Hawkhead


You are right, as discussed earlier what was Leverndale Hospital (or I suppose still is) was once known as Hawkhead Mental Hospital.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/nra/searches/subjectView.asp?ID=O62204

The hospital in Paisley now known as Hawkhead Hospital was the Paisley Infectious Diseases Hospital which was built in the 1930's in an art deco style.
(now being converted to flats )

Sometime in the 1960's when the original Hawkhead hospital on the Glasgow side of the boundary became Leverndale Hospital the hospital in Paisley also changed its name to become Hawkhead Hospital - logical really as it sits off of Hawkhead Road in Paisley.
Title: Re: Hawkhead mental hospital
Post by: SarahU on Saturday 18 June 16 05:24 BST (UK)
My grandmother's cousin (Heanney) died in 1905 in the Infectious Diseases Hospital Paisley,  according to his death certificate, which would indicate that it was this hospital that was in Hawkhead Road before being torn down in the 1920s or 1930s and replaced by the mental hospital.
Title: Re: Hawkhead mental hospital
Post by: RJ_Paton on Saturday 18 June 16 10:40 BST (UK)
My grandmother's cousin (Heanney) died in 1905 in the Infectious Diseases Hospital Paisley,  according to his death certificate, which would indicate that it was this hospital that was in Hawkhead Road before being torn down in the 1920s or 1930s and replaced by the mental hospital.

The infectious diseases hospital in Paisley was a different hospital - the hospital which was in Hawkhead Road in Paisley which was the NEW infectious Diseases hospital wasn't built until the 1920's/30's and was built on previously undisturbed farmlands.
The old hospital was somewhere around Bridge Street/Mill Street area.

Leverndale Hospital which was previously known as Hawkhead is in Glasgow and was originally built by Govan Parish in 1895. As it grew it acquired more land some of which crossed the County Boundary (or the boundary was realigned) which took some of it into Renfrewshire.(the main administrative buildings still maintained their Glasgow address)
Both Hospitals took their name from the original estate lands - Hawkhead (or in old maps Halkhead)

Dykebar which opened in 1909 was the Paisley equivalent to the Glasgow/Govan Hawkhead Hospital
Title: Re: Hawkhead mental hospital
Post by: sancti on Saturday 18 June 16 20:34 BST (UK)
The Infectious Diseases Hospital was behind the Infirmary on Bridge Street.

Access may have been from Bladda Lane
Title: Re: Hawkhead mental hospital
Post by: djct59 on Saturday 18 June 16 22:36 BST (UK)
"Access may have been from Bladda Lane"

Unfortunate if you had a urinary infection...
Title: Re: Hawkhead mental hospital
Post by: SarahU on Sunday 19 June 16 00:01 BST (UK)
Thanks for the info - hope there's a W.C handy.
Title: Re: Hawkhead mental hospital
Post by: pharmaT on Sunday 19 June 16 00:07 BST (UK)
The NHS archives are held at the Mitchell Library in Glasgow.  I would contact them, they may hold records although I don't know which years would be covered.
Title: Re: Hawkhead mental hospital
Post by: doddsie4 on Tuesday 21 June 16 08:35 BST (UK)
       About 7 or 8 years ago, I enquired at the Mitchell about a relative who was admitted to Hawkhead in 1904.
     
       From memory, I think they gave me a time when to go to the Mitchell and when my sister & I went there, they then produced a large ledger which contained the hospital records for my relative.      The writing was poor, but I could decipher it.      I asked the Mitchell if I could have Photostat copies - the hospital records ran from 1904 to 1917, when he died there.     
     
      Again, from memory, I think I received the Photostat copies through the post.   I still have these hospital records.

      I have my relative's death certificate, and it states the place where he died as being: Hawkhead Asylum, Paisley.

      The records I have are quite thorough and explain the patient's state of mind and his behaviour and some of the things he was saying.      We were amazed at the detailed information, but the only drawback was the poorly scrawled writing.      You had to study every sentence to catch its true meaning.