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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Breconshire => Topic started by: mrs.c. on Wednesday 26 November 08 21:54 GMT (UK)
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hi,can anyone help me i have been trying to find the marriage record of a thomas price to a mary price for llanwrtyd wells,around the time of 1865 to 1869,why is it so hard to find? mary's father was john price (ffos farm). thomas price was a platelayer on the railway.their first child was born in 1869 called john.i am really stuck with this one.please can someone help?.i have found all the census records for them its their marriage record i cannot find.thankyou.
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'Morning Mrs C.
FreeBMd has a marriage between Thomas Price & Mary Price at Llandovery (11 miles from Llanwrtyd Wells). June 1/4 1864 11a-905. This may have been the Regisration District for their area.
Also on FreeBMD: marriage between Thomas Price & Mary Price:...........
Mar 1865 Kniighton 11b-226
june 1867 at Hay..11b-251
Sep. 1867 Brecknock..11b-164
Hope one of these will help.
cheers Wendy M.
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hello wendy, thankyou for your quick reply.yes i had found those records and had e/mailed the carmarthanshire record office as llanwrtyd wells came under llandovery district they tried a search and can find no record of a marriage between thomas and mary price with father's name john (mary's father) from 1862-1871. i also tried the knighton register office and they do not have the details either. i ordered the brecknock certificate from the GRO, but its still the wrong one!. this is the reason i am saying help! can anyone advise where to go from here?. i would have thought they would have been married in their home town llanwrtyd wells if so the records should be in the llandrindod wells surely.thankyou jan.
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Hi Mrs C.
I had a similar problem with one of mine - it turned out the man's surname had been recorded completely wrong on the marriage certificate and therefore in the index.
I eventually found the marriage by giving the local register office all the details I had from census records, which included the township the groom lived in, and the first name and occupation of the groom's father. All I knew about the bride was her full name as recorded on the birth certificate of one of their children.The register office searched over a three year period and fortunately found it.
Of course, Thomas and Mary might not have been married at all!
Anne
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hi marmaduke 123,thankyou for your reply i was wondering if they did not get married at all but i think in a small place like llanwrtyd that would have been impossible really.
as you say there might be a mistake on the details which i will look into.
i have asked the national library of wales and they are going to have a look at the parish records for me.
thanks jan.
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hello,can anyone help me with regard to chapels in llanwrtyd wells, (how many) and how to contact,i still have not come up with this marriage record for thomas price and mary price, it was suggested i try the chapel registers and would the record or certificate be with the gro if they were married in a chapel?. thankyou jan.
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Hi mrs.c,
I googled for Chapels/Churches in LLanwrtyd Wells & several pages came up.
www.builth-wells.co.uk/comm.php?activecat=4&activesubcat=25&selectedID=157 - 15k -
This in "Builth WElls" 12+ miles up the road offers many Churches other than 14th Century old St. Marys'
I'm sure someone there could advise you.
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hi wendy,thankyou for the info i will google those chapels and see what i can find out.thanks again jan.
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chapel records should get to the GRO in the same way as church ones. It's always possible that records don't get from local office to the GRO, but the record should be at the local office covering the church/chapel where the marriage took place.
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hello osprey,thankyou for your reply,but i seem to be going around in circles,i cannot apply to the gro without an index number. i have applied to the local record office the one for llanwrtyd wells would be in llandrindod wells i have been told they have no record of a thomas price marriage to a mary price for around the time of 1865 to 1869, i have also tried the brecon office and the carmarthanshire office (no luck there either) i have also tried the knighton office as well.thankyou again jan.
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What about the marriage registered in Hay? As Thomas was a plate-layer he would have moved around, so they might have married away from her home? Or after the birth of their first child? Or possibly not at all...
What about other offices which have some Breconshire marriages? Merthyr Tydfil, Blaenau Gwent, Neath?
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Marriages Jun 1864
Christopher Bulger Shiffnal 6a 1126
Mary Price Shiffnal 6a 1126
Thomas Price Shiffnal 6a 1126
Emily Sarah Ward Shiffnal 6a 1126
FREEBMD SITE
SYLVIA
JUST TO CONFUSE EVEN MORE
Marriages Jun 1864 Llandovery
Margaret Morgans 11a905
Mary Price 11a905
Thomas Price 11a905
John Williams 11a905
Marriages Jun 1864 Shiffnal
Christopher Bulger 6a1126
Mary Price 6a1126
Thomas Price 6a1126
Emily Sarah Ward 6a1126
Marriages Jun 1864 ~~~~~~~~
Thomas Price Llandovery 11a 905
Thomas Price Shiffnal 6a 1126
The district Llandovery spans the boundaries of the counties of Breconshire and Carmarthenshire
The district Shiffnal is an alternative name for Shifnal and it spans the boundaries of the counties of Shropshire and Staffordshire
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hello,thankyou for the very kind replies,i have tried the hay office that drew a blank,i will have a look at the shifnal office because as you say they may have moved around with thomas being on the railway,i was of the mind that they would have married in the brides home town of llanwrtyd wells.