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Title: ELLY Family of Bath
Post by: dirtydave57 on Monday 01 December 08 22:59 GMT (UK)
Hi

Trying to trace the details of Nora Bessie Victoria ELLY (b) abt June 1887 in Bath. Looking for dob, parents & siblings please.

Dave from Oz
Title: Re: elly family of bath
Post by: Mum44 on Monday 01 December 08 23:11 GMT (UK)

Hi Dave

Well, I found her birth registration:

Nora Bessie Victora Elly  Q2. 1887  Bath  Vol. 5c  Pg. 619


Still looking for her and family in 1891 or 1901 census   :-\
Title: Re: elly family of bath
Post by: Mum44 on Monday 01 December 08 23:24 GMT (UK)


Found them   ;)   Nora using the name Bessie   ;)

1891
RG12.  P. 1938  Fol. 39  Pg. 9


31 Ballance Street, Walcot, Bath

ELLEY
Isaac  Head  M  43  Mason
Elizabeth  Wife  M  42  Laundress
Bertie  Son  16   Errand Boy
Charlie  Son  13    ~        ~
Edith  Dau  10
Willie  Son  6
Bessie  Dau  4

Elizabeth born Freshford, Somerset;  all others born Bath


Title: Re: elly family of bath
Post by: Mum44 on Monday 01 December 08 23:29 GMT (UK)


1901
RG13.  P. 2343  Fol. 118 Pg. 18


31 Ballance Street, Walcot, Bath

ELLY
Isaac  Head  M  52  Mason
Elizabeth  Wife  M  51
Charles  Son  Un  23  Painter
Willie  Son  16  Paint shop boy
Bessie  Dau  14  Dressmakers apprentice

Elizabeth born Freshford, Somerset;  all others born Bath
Title: Re: elly family of bath
Post by: Mum44 on Monday 01 December 08 23:58 GMT (UK)


This seems to be the marriage of Isaac and Elizabeth:

Isaac Elly  Q3. 1870  Bath  Vol. 5c  Pg. 1063 
Elizabeth Newman on the same page

1871
Rg10.  P. 2490  Fol. 21  Pg. 10


3 Salisbury Buildings, Walcot, Bath

ELLY
Isaac  Head  M  21  labourer  B.  Somerset. Bath
Elizabeth  Wife  M  21             B.  Somerset, Freshford
Ada  Dau  3 months                B.  Somerset,  Walcot

Title: Re: elly family of bath
Post by: Mum44 on Tuesday 02 December 08 00:22 GMT (UK)


Isaac 's birth reg:

Q1. 1849  Bath.  Vol. 11  Pg. 52

Isaac with his parents  :

1851
Ho107.  P. 1942  Fol  548 Pg. 24


Summerhill Place, Beacon Hill, Walcot

ELLY
Janes  Head  M  28  Labourer
Harriet  Wife  M  31
Henry  Son  6
Isaac  Son  3

all born Bath.

Marriage:  James Elley  Q3. 1846 Bath  Vol.  11  Pg. 40.  Harriet Stevens on the page

Title: Re: elly family of bath
Post by: Mum44 on Tuesday 02 December 08 00:46 GMT (UK)

Elizabeth Newman:  birth reg:  Q3. 1849  Bradford upon Avon  Vol 8  Pg. 261


Elizabeth with her parents :

1851
HO107.  P.  1841  Fol. 63  Pg. 18


Staples Hill, Westwood, Wilts.

NEWMAN
George  Head  M  28  Gardener
Ann Wife  M  33
George  Son  3
Elizabeth  Dau  2

all born Freshford, Somerset.
Title: Re: ELLY Family of Bath
Post by: dirtydave57 on Tuesday 02 December 08 22:24 GMT (UK)
Hi Mum44 ;)

thanks very much. not only have you provided info on Nora and her family or Bessie as she shows up on the census as - but you've also solved the mystery of where my ggdad's sister - Elizabeth Newman went. It appears that Nora married her 1st cousin - Harold Sydney Newman - the son of George Augustus Newman (b) freshford 1848. what a small world we live in.. thanks so much

Best wishes

Dave from Oz :)
Title: Re: ELLY Family of Bath
Post by: Pat Hase on Monday 06 December 10 16:43 GMT (UK)
Nora Bessie Victoria ELLY was my 2nd cousin twice removed.  Not exactly close but it does mean that we share ancestors back along.
As you know her parents were William & Elizabeth nee NEWMAN
William ELLY was the son of James & Harriet nee STEVENS
James ELLY was the son of William & Martha nee GRANT (my 3 x great grandparents)
William ELLY was the son of Isaac & Susanna nee BUTLER

At that point I'm stuck - they are in the Charlcombe/Swainswick area but I don't know where Isaac ELLY was born.

Pat

Title: Re: ELLY Family of Bath
Post by: dirtydave57 on Tuesday 07 December 10 12:51 GMT (UK)
Hi Pat,

Nice to fear from you. Bit confused with your reference William & Elizabeth as the parents of Nora. I have it as Isaac b 1849 Bath married Elizabeth in 1870, son of James b 1823 Bath & Harriett Stevens b 1819 Bath - 1 other son - Henry b 1846 Bath ( Isaac brother ). Do i read correctly that William & Martha are James parents & that William's parents are Isaac & Susanna
Title: Re: ELLY Family of Bath
Post by: Pat Hase on Tuesday 07 December 10 13:42 GMT (UK)
Oh Dear!

You are quite right - I'm just proving how easy it is to make mistakes.  I did of course mean Isaac & Elizabeth as the parents of Nora.  I'm not sure how William got in on the act!

Isaac married Elizabeth NEWMAN in 1870 in Bath (according the BathBMD either in the Bath Register Office or in a non-conformist church with a Registrar present).

Unless I've got this wrong as well  - Isaac was the son of James & Harriet nee STEVENS who were married 19th July 1846 at St Swithin's, Walcot, Bath.  I believe he was christened 25 Feb 1849 at Charlcombe but I have 5 siblings for him all christened at St Swithins.  Henry in 1846, Jane in 1851, Emma in 1855, Eliza Mary Ann in 1858 and Lucy in 1861.

James ELLY was the s/o William & Martha nee GRANT who were married in 1803 in Swainswick.
My direct ancestor was John ELLY an elder brother of James who married Betsy STEVENS (Harriet's sister).  Now you have permission to be confused!

William & Martha ELLY had 11 children between 1805 and 1826.

William was christened in Swainswick in 1782 a son of Isaac & Susannah ELLY nee BUTLER.  He was one of 12 children born between 1773 and 1793.

It's not surprising that there are so many ELLY and/or ELLEY families in Bath!

I hope I've got it right this time!  Thanks for your reply - it's good to be in contact with fellow researchers.

Pat
Title: Re: ELLY Family of Bath
Post by: dirtydave57 on Tuesday 07 December 10 22:12 GMT (UK)
Hi Pat,

Thanks for clearing that up. I hadn't researched too heavily into the ELLY name as it's not my main interest, but having provivded what you have is very helpfull. So thanks for that.

Kind regards

Dave from OZ