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Title: Peavoy
Post by: rayharris185 on Saturday 06 December 08 11:37 GMT (UK)
Can anyone help with my research into the above family - I'm baffled

My geat aunt Kathleen Harris married Charles Pladwill(?) Peavoy in Dorchester, Dorset, England on 24.8.1929. All I had at that stage was his fathers name of James Alfred Peavoy (Dec'sd) from Castletown, Ireland from the marriage certificate.

Further research showed, on the 1901 UK census, Charles age 3 (born Ireland) at Dorchester Army Barracks with his mother Catherine age 34 a widow (British born North America), his sister Caroline age 5 (born Ireland), his brother Ernest age 7 (born Ireland), his aunt Ellen O'Neill age 33 married (born Ireland), and Ellen's daughter Gwendoline age 10 (born Malta).

Ellen & Catherine are shown as sisters so I assume both of their surnames are from their husbands. Ellen is shown as the head of the family which would point to her husband being alive and in the Army at the time.
Title: Re: Peavoy
Post by: sapphirerlf on Sunday 07 October 12 14:37 BST (UK)
Hi - I am new to this site and have just seen your post re James Peavoy. I am also looking for information about him.  I do have some information. He was a Colour Sergeant in the Dorsetshire Regiment and married Catherine Tierney in Bangalore in 1878 so he must have been serving in India at that time. At some point they must have returned to Ireland as several of his children were born in Monabath. I think he might have died in 1899 in Abbeyleix District as I found his name in the Irish Civil Registration Death Indix but can't be absolutelu sure it is the correct person.  Any further information you have found would be very helpful.

sapphirerlf
Title: Re: Peavoy
Post by: taramcdsmall on Sunday 07 October 12 20:01 BST (UK)
Hi Sapphire and welcome !

Should that be MOUNTRATH a townland in County Laois ?

Castletown is another area just beside Mountrath.

Do you have the name of James' father from his marriage cert ?

There were only a few Peavoy's in Laois in 1901

 peavoy laois 1901 (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/results.jsp?census_year=1901&surname=peavoy&firstname=&county=Queen%27s+Co.&townland=&ded=&age=&sex=&search=Search&relationToHead=&religion=&education=&occupation=&marriageStatus=&birthplace=&language=&deafdumb=&marriageYears=&childrenBorn=&childrenLiving=)

and in 1911

 peavoy laois 1911 (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/results.jsp?census_year=1911&surname=peavoy&firstname=&county=Queen%27s+Co.&townland=&ded=&age=&sex=&search=Search&relationToHead=&religion=&education=&occupation=&marriageStatus=&birthplace=&language=&deafdumb=&marriageYears=&childrenBorn=&childrenLiving=)

The name Pladwell must mean something to the family as it's a middle name in your family plus  have seen it on a birth on 1903

 pladwell peavoy birth (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FB23-FTL)

The death in 1899 appears to be a good match, but I suppose you will only know by ordering it

 possible james peavoy death cert (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FTDZ-NM4)

Tara
Title: Re: Peavoy
Post by: taramcdsmall on Sunday 07 October 12 20:05 BST (UK)
BTW

You will need to ask the moderators to move this to the Laois board where you will get more relevant help !

Tara
Title: Re: Peavoy
Post by: gaffy on Monday 08 October 12 06:01 BST (UK)

The James Peavoy who died in 1899 was a 52 year old married army pensioner from Castletown.
Title: Re: Peavoy
Post by: sapphirerlf on Monday 08 October 12 16:23 BST (UK)
Thank you very much for your helpful replies.
James Peavoy was born in Mountrath but his children's birthplaces are shown as Monabath or Abbeyleix. James was married in Bangalore, India, when serving in India. I am not sure how to get the marriage certificate.  From his army record I know he served in the Dorsetshire Regiment for 21 years and travelled widely before returning home to Ireland where he died in 1899. His wife and children then returned to Dorset.

sapphirerlf
Title: Re: Peavoy
Post by: sapphirerlf on Wednesday 10 October 12 20:28 BST (UK)
I have been unable to find any record of James Peavoy's birth although I understand from his Army records that he was born in Mountrath in the Parish of Clonemagh around 1882.  Would anyone be able to help please?

sapphirerlf
Title: Re: Peavoy
Post by: shanew147 on Wednesday 10 October 12 20:42 BST (UK)
just six Peavoy births that I see on the BMD Index registered in Ireland between 1880 and 1884 - no sign of James, or any in Co. Laois. Closest would probably the the two in Naas, which is in neighbouring Co. Kildare.

see : Peavoy births (https://www.familysearch.org/search/records/index#count=20&query=%2Bsurname%3APeavoy~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1880-1884~&collection_id=1408347&birth_place0=8)

Mountrath is in the civil parish of 'Clonenagh and Clonagheen' and registration district of Mountmellick.


Shane
Title: Re: Peavoy
Post by: sapphirerlf on Wednesday 10 October 12 20:48 BST (UK)
Thank you Shane.  His birth date should have been about 1847.  Sorry I got muddled with dates.

sapphire
Title: Re: Peavoy
Post by: shanew147 on Wednesday 10 October 12 20:49 BST (UK)
makes quite a difference to the search - for dates before 1864 you need to check for baptisms, i.e. parish records.

What denomination were your Peavoy family ?

see : Introduction to Irish Records (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,442233.0.html)


Shane
Title: Re: Peavoy
Post by: sapphirerlf on Wednesday 10 October 12 21:14 BST (UK)

According to his Army record he was Roman Catholic

sapphire
Title: Re: Peavoy
Post by: shanew147 on Wednesday 10 October 12 21:53 BST (UK)
The pay-website RootsIreland (http://www.rootsireland.ie) has transcripts of a number of RC parishes in Co. Laois, including Mountrath parish. The free index shows 2 possible  Peavoy baptisms around 1847 as Peavy - but no match for a James.

The names for those matches seem to be Anne and Mary, and both in Mountrath RC parish.

I think it might be worth chasing up that marriage to try to find out how to obtain a cert - if it includes his father's name and maybe occupation, you might be able to establish a link to one or both of those two baptisms as possible sisters to your James


Shane
Title: Re: Peavoy
Post by: shanew147 on Wednesday 10 October 12 22:00 BST (UK)
Just seven listings for the surname Peavoy on Griffith's valuation - dated 1850 for this part of Co. Laois. All relate to a Joseph as occupier of property in Mountrath townland on two of the records, and lessor on the other five records.

see : Peavoy - Griffith's Valuation (http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=doNameSearch&Submit.x=13&Submit.y=4&familyname=peavoy&firstname=&baronyname=&countyname=&unionname=&parishname=)



Shane
Title: Re: Peavoy
Post by: taramcdsmall on Wednesday 10 October 12 22:16 BST (UK)
Hi there,

I MIGHT have something for you..........

James named his first born son Charles, which given Irish naming traditions usually indicates it being his father's name or at least 'in the family'

So given the rarity of the surname in Laois, I have found a Charles Peavoy in Laois on the 1911 irish Census

 charles peavoy 1911 irish census (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Queen_s_Co_/Clonaslee/Clonaslee_Town/789720/)

I'm wondering, given his age might he be a brother to your James ???

Aswell, as far as I can see the Peavoy's in Laois appear to have been COI !

Tara
Title: Re: Peavoy
Post by: taramcdsmall on Wednesday 10 October 12 22:26 BST (UK)
Hi there,

The free index on ifhf shows a Charles Peavoy born 1865 to a Joseph Peavoy.

What I said in the last message then looks like a good possibility that Charles and James were son's of Joseph Peavoy who is listed on the GV that Shane told you about.

it would like then, that if this scenario is correct, that this Joseph would be another brother of James'

 joseph peavoy 1901 Irish Census (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Queen_s_Co_/Mountrath/Mountrath/1651478/)

and the sister Mary on it would be his sister and the Mary that Shane found on ifhf !

Tara
Title: Re: Peavoy
Post by: taramcdsmall on Wednesday 10 October 12 22:48 BST (UK)
Hi there,

As Shane has said, you will need to try and track down the marriage cert of James to get his father's name, but just incase it does turn out to be Joseph I shall post another few bits

this is another son of Joseph's getting married

 john peavoy marriage (http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/7fb3f40559420)

This is another Peavoy from Mountrath

 william peavoy 1911 irish census (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Inn_s_Quay/St__Ignatius_Road/18521/)


Tara
Title: Re: Peavoy
Post by: taramcdsmall on Wednesday 10 October 12 22:58 BST (UK)
If you scroll down on this link

http://www.genealogylaois.com/laois-archives-page46940.html

Joseph Peavoy was putting ads in US newspapers in the 1860's looking for a Thomas Peavoy !

Tara
Title: Re: Peavoy
Post by: taramcdsmall on Wednesday 10 October 12 23:02 BST (UK)
Reference to an old spelling and pronunciation of Mountrath from 'genealogy laois ' site

Moynrath 1775
This town is commonly spelt and pronounced Mountrath, but this is a vungar Pleonasm, the word Moynrath, the" boggy fort" or "Fort in the Bog".
The parish is of irregular figure, being seven miles and three quarters long, and from one to two miles and a half broad, and containing about fifteen and the quarters sq Irish miles. To the North it is bounded by Offerilan parish, to the West, by those of Rathdowny, Skeirke, Downaghmore and Killdellig. To the South by Bordwell, Killermogh and to the East by Clonenagh.

Tara

Title: Re: Peavoy
Post by: taramcdsmall on Wednesday 10 October 12 23:13 BST (UK)
This link has a brief mention of the surname Pladwell in Laois

tobias pladwell (http://www.askaboutireland.ie/reading-room/history-heritage/heritage-towns/towns-and-villages-of-lao/mountmellick/quakers/)

Tara
Title: Re: Peavoy
Post by: sapphirerlf on Thursday 11 October 12 09:04 BST (UK)

Thank you Shane and Tara for all that valuable information.  It is really helpful.  I really thought I had
reached a dead end but since joining this site I am raring to go further.

sapphire
Title: Re: Peavoy
Post by: taramcdsmall on Thursday 11 October 12 09:22 BST (UK)
No probs...

Let us know as soon as you get some sort of confirmation of James' father's name, and we can see what else we can find !

Tara
Title: Re: Peavoy
Post by: Jack2227 on Thursday 11 October 12 12:22 BST (UK)
Two legible headstones in Mountrath COI graveyard;

William Henry Peavoy; (Kinnitty) Kinnitty is in Offaly.
3/5/1984 (88 years)
wife-Matilda Frances; 1/4/1992 (87)
--
Charles Peavoy; Derrynob Mountrath; 3/3/1983 (83)
wife-Caroline; 30/4/1992 (83)
--
The Peavoy's living in Mountrath at the moment are COI
===
Jack

http://www.genealogylaois.com
is my website.
==
Title: Re: Peavoy
Post by: taramcdsmall on Thursday 11 October 12 12:33 BST (UK)
Hi Jack..........

BTW Your site is great !

Tara
Title: Re: Peavoy
Post by: sapphirerlf on Thursday 11 October 12 17:10 BST (UK)

Thank you.  In order to find out how to obtain a marriage certificate for
James Peavoy and Catherine Tierney I will need to go on to the 'Other
Countries' part of the Forum as they were married in an R.C. Chapel
in India (Fortress Grrahor if I have read it correctly) while James was
serving in the Army.  How do I go about that? Do I need to ask for
These postings to be moved again to that site?

sapphire
Title: Re: Peavoy
Post by: shanew147 on Thursday 11 October 12 17:36 BST (UK)
post a new thread, just with the details you have on the marriage, and asking about a cert.

The Other Counties section is here (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,421.0.html)

Given the army connection it might turn out to be an 'Armed Forces' type query, but we can always move the post there if required..


S.
Title: Re: Peavoy
Post by: sapphirerlf on Friday 12 October 12 10:15 BST (UK)

Although Charles Peavoy was the eldest child born in Ireland James
and Catherine did have two other children, Harriett born 1879 in
Bengal and Alfred James born 1882.  I have also found out that
one of James' brothers could be William Peavoy who married
Margaret Lyons and they had a son called Alfred born in Poonah
India.  Maybe in that case the father's name is Alfred. 

I am in touch with the British Library through the Other
Countries Board to find out how to get the marriage certificate
and looking some more into William and Margaret which
might be an easier route.  Will keep you posted.

sapphire
Title: Re: Peavoy
Post by: millarju on Wednesday 13 August 14 04:14 BST (UK)
Hi Ray, did you ever find out more about Charles Pladwill ?  your posting 6th Dec o8.
Regards, Judi
Title: Re: Peavoy
Post by: Jack2227 on Wednesday 13 August 14 10:39 BST (UK)
The Peavoy names lives on in Dorchester.

UK Companies House Directors; 2002-2013;
Dorchester-South West-Dorset

Maria Peavoy (40-44 years old)

other occupents;
Chloe Peavoy
David Peavoy
Maria Peavoy.
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Title: Re: Peavoy
Post by: Chloe Peavoy on Monday 16 January 17 19:45 GMT (UK)
Hi everyone I've just come across this. I am chloe peavoy! I too have got stuck at James Alfred peavoy so this information is great, thanks