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Title: garston liverpool 19
Post by: glenarm on Sunday 07 December 08 03:17 GMT (UK)
Hello There
can anybody help me with information from  the Garston area of liverpool i am trying find a location site for  photographer  Morris Richards  Carlton studio   GARSTON
  Maybe a senior citizen may remember  hoping to hear from you 
thank you
Glenarm 
Title: Re: garston liverpool 19
Post by: Ruth_T on Sunday 07 December 08 18:04 GMT (UK)
hi,

According to 1915 Gores Directory, it is 108 St. Marys Road, Garston

Regards
Marg
Title: Re: garston liverpool 19
Post by: glenarm on Sunday 07 December 08 20:23 GMT (UK)
 :)Hi marg
thank you so much,  if  I  come across any wings I will send you a pair  you are great 
kindest regards
Glenarm
Title: Re: garston liverpool 19
Post by: glenarm on Sunday 07 December 08 20:39 GMT (UK)
 :)HI  ALL
 i HAVE A COPY OF THE DIRECTORY OF THE TOWNSHIP OF GARSTON  FOR THE YEAR 1889  WHICH GIVES NAMES OF THE STREETS ALSO WHO OCCUPIED THE  HOUSES   AND THEIR TRADES.
 IF ANYBODY  DOING  RESEARCH WOULD LIKE ME TO LOOKUP  AN ADDRESS  FOR THEM  OR A BUSINESS IN THE GARSTON  AREA  JUST DROP ME A LINE
 GLENARM
Title: Re: garston liverpool 19
Post by: garstonite on Tuesday 30 December 08 10:28 GMT (UK)
Hiya...I live in Garston and my family have been here since 1840`s ...very close knit community here..there`s not many families I don`t know.if I can help at all post here or PM me . allan
Title: Re: garston liverpool 19
Post by: glenarm on Tuesday 30 December 08 15:59 GMT (UK)
 ;)hello garstonite,
 
Thank you for your reply
 I am also  from Garston born and bred, my family came to garston in1860s my g grand parents lived in jackson st in the village .my grand parents lived  in vulcan street . I have done my family tree back to 1811 on my maternal side and I have in my possession   a copy  of the directory of Garston township its a street directory giving the occupation of the heads of households in garston and I was wondering if any body doing their family tree wanted me to look up an address for them I would do this for them its no problem thank you for your offer of help
  Glenarm
Title: Re: garston liverpool 19
Post by: Iria on Tuesday 30 December 08 16:12 GMT (UK)
Hi Glen

I was Wondering if there is a John Brooks (Hemp Spinner then Gardner ) in the Dictionary He was Born in Garston 1825

Any Help would be Most Apprecated

Regards

Iria
Title: Re: garston liverpool 19
Post by: glenarm on Tuesday 30 December 08 17:10 GMT (UK)
 ;)Hi IRIA 
HAVE YOU ANY IDEA WHAT PART OF GARSTON THEY LIVED 
WOULD IT BE UNDER THE BRIDGE  IF YOU DO NOT KNOW i WILL HAVE A SEARCH BUT IT MAY TAKE A LITTLE TIME BUT  i WILL DO IT  FOR YOU
REGARDS
GLENARM
Title: Re: garston liverpool 19
Post by: garstonite on Wednesday 31 December 08 07:58 GMT (UK)
Hi glenarm...I moved from 63 St Marys rd last november...this is the corner shop on Jackson St/St Marys rd....the triplets (girls) were born in Jackson St....they are around 50 now...do you remember them??..our shop has been firstly a pub The Grapes Inn,then an offlicence then in 1922 the Co-op clothes store ,then a pram shop and then a bed shop....we sold it in february and its being turned into a Bistro I believe...allan
added...I grew up in 25 bennett st and later 11 heald st...I would be interested who lived in these houses...in 1889 11 heald st was probably a firemans house..my family lived in 10 banks rd for a hundred years...cheers
Title: Re: garston liverpool 19
Post by: glenarm on Wednesday 31 December 08 12:01 GMT (UK)
 ;) Hi Allen I think I know who you  I think  your wife is a cousin to my brother in law    D  H  my sister was Pat who so sadly passed away 6 yrs ago .
Allen at 10 Banks Road Danial Oakes lived by trade he was a labourer
there was no 11 Heald Street in 1889   nos    2    6  8  10 only one side of the street was built    ( no 2 was coop )  (no6 joseph Rawlins builder ) no8 was the liberal club and in number 10 mc cullogh engineer  then the Welsh ChapeL
Blennett Street Idont believe Bennett Street was built at that time as its not in the book and that is usually the reason.
I do remember  the triplets I thought they came from James Street I must have been mistaken
my great grand father lived in no 1 Jackson  Street untill 1890s
and my grand parents  in vulcan were I  sorry could not help you more
   Betty
Title: Re: garston liverpool 19
Post by: glenarm on Wednesday 31 December 08 12:13 GMT (UK)
 ;)Hi Iria up to now I have not come across it but I will keep trying its a pity you did not have any idea where the street was as some of the streets  had not been built in 1889  l leave it with me any way
betty  (glenarm )
Title: Re: garston liverpool 19
Post by: garstonite on Friday 02 January 09 01:25 GMT (UK)
Hiya Betty....yes...I know who you are through my wife...Pat was a lovely girl,had many a laugh with her and Dave..I still have an occasional pint with Dave when I see him...my wife said to tell you 15th July....Pat died on our daughters birthday.
yes I`m stupid...I knew our house in Heald St was built in 1890.....and Bennett st in 1892....how daft am I ??.. BTW I was in the Pandemonium with Dave and Jimmy for 11 years,,,had some laughs.....regards...allan
Title: Re: garston liverpool 19
Post by: glenarm on Friday 02 January 09 14:11 GMT (UK)
;)Hi Allen,
thanks for that I am a member of ancestral  villages I gave in your name  and I am now in  a queue waiting to  be activated it looks a good  site  . I started my research  years ago  writing hundreds of letters going down to the William brown  library our pat and Dave used to accompany me,.when I made a hit you could hear me all over the library I think they thought I had lost it. you just get carried away with it . I have my maternal tree back to 1811  my paternal one to 1828 and johnny family back to 1856
   Allen if you have Irish ancestors try emerald ancestors it is a  brilliant  site  ,I am a member of so many  now sometimes you get good results others not a lot but they are handy  just the same .
I remember you all in the band you all had a whale of a time good days sadly gone now. I miss our Pat so  much when she went a part of me went  with her .          Al tell Ann it was my mam who passed  away 15 july  Pat died on 28 April   
well Allen it was really  nice talking to you I wish you and Ann and all your family  A  VERY HAPPY NEW YEAR
 love Betty
Title: Re: garston liverpool 19
Post by: agg12 on Friday 09 January 09 22:43 GMT (UK)
Hello There
can anybody help me with information from  the Garston area of liverpool i am trying find a location site for  photographer  Morris Richards  Carlton studio   GARSTON
  Maybe a senior citizen may remember  hoping to hear from you 
thank you
Glenarm 

I am also researching this topic and was so delighted to find your message on this site. This photographer was my husbands grandfather but because all of the family have died I was having difficulty finding this information and he also called his business by his  Christian names rather than using his surname. 
Title: Re: garston liverpool 19
Post by: glenarm on Saturday 10 January 09 13:48 GMT (UK)
 ;) Hi agg
sorry I am not researching Morris Richards what  it was a researcher in Ireland came across a photo which  had been passed to her it was assumed that photo could have been my father. The person in question did not know if on the back of the photo  the address said Garston  liver,pool   or Garstang which is near to Black POOL so  I made a request on rootsweb     to see if someone  may  know of this studio  marg  replied it was at 108 St Marys Road.
 However when the  photo did arrive it was not my father after all, in spite of us living in Garston.It dawned on me later   who Morris Richards  was .  I was to young to know him but I had heard of him he was also known  by his nick name  Dickie Twice .
 sorry I could not be more help
glenarm
Title: Re: garston liverpool 19
Post by: dottyc on Wednesday 13 October 10 11:38 BST (UK)
Hello agg12,

I am also connection to the family of Morris Richard photographer of Garston.   He was my Gran's brother.  Do you have more information about this family?   I am trying to find out as much as  I can.

DottyC
Title: Re: garston liverpool 19
Post by: dottyc on Sunday 17 October 10 17:37 BST (UK)
Hello agg12,

I hope you might pick up on this because I think you might be surprised to find that in fact a lot of Morris Richards family are alive and kicking.   

DottyC
Title: Re: garston liverpool 19
Post by: garstonite on Sunday 17 October 10 19:12 BST (UK)
Did they have the Bike shop as well,opposite St Michaels church ??.....allan :)
Title: Re: garston liverpool 19
Post by: dottyc on Sunday 17 October 10 20:11 BST (UK)
Hello Gartonite,

I am related to the photographer and if fact am looking for agg12 who it appears is also related to Morris Richards the photographer.

DottyC
Title: Re: garston liverpool 19
Post by: sianib on Saturday 30 October 10 17:47 BST (UK)
Hi I  was wondering if anybody had any information on the Gibson family who lived at 56 Saunby Street Garston.I do not know when they moved here but they were there in 1911.My great grandfather was called James William Gibson his wife was Sarah Jane Gibson and they had 6 children William Moore Gibson,Thurstance Reginald Gibson,Constance Annie Gibson,Lily Mary Gibson,Edna Emily Gibson and Elsie may Gibson.My great grandfather and great grandmother,William, Thurstance and constance originally came from Derbyshire.William Moore Gibson was my Grandfather and I am trying to trace the rest of his family.
Thank you to anyone who may be able to help  :)
Title: Re: garston liverpool 19
Post by: dottyc on Saturday 30 October 10 20:23 BST (UK)
hello, sorry  no connection.  i was looking for agg12 as we must be related.

dottyc
Title: Re: garston liverpool 19
Post by: garstonite on Saturday 30 October 10 20:29 BST (UK)
Hi I  was wondering if anybody had any information on the Gibson family who lived at 56 Saunby Street Garston.I do not know when they moved here but they were there in 1911.My great grandfather was called James William Gibson his wife was Sarah Jane Gibson and they had 6 children William Moore Gibson,Thurstance Reginald Gibson,Constance Annie Gibson,Lily Mary Gibson,Edna Emily Gibson and Elsie may Gibson.My great grandfather and great grandmother,William, Thurstance and constance originally came from Derbyshire.William Moore Gibson was my Grandfather and I am trying to trace the rest of his family.
Thank you to anyone who may be able to help  :)
Thurstance T Reginald Gibson married in St Michaels C of E Church ,Garston in 1919 to Mary E Webster
Thurstance T Reginald Gibson married in Holy Trinity RC Church ,Garston in 1924 to Mary E Coxsey
do you know what the T after Thustance stands for ????allan
ADDED...ok Thurstance Thomas Reginald Gibson b dec qtr 1898 in Derby....
Title: Re: garston liverpool 19
Post by: garstonite on Saturday 30 October 10 20:44 BST (UK)
OK....it`s a bit delicate now because Thurstance and Mary E Coxsey had 5 children between 1925 and 1943....
the youngest born 1943 , a girl ,was registered in Garston....I Think...I was registered in 1951...Wavertree ...which incorporates  Garston...so I am presuming she was in Garston.....We are not allowed to publish living names, so I cannot do that....there does not appear to be any children for Thurstance and Mary E Webster...
go to www.lancashire.org.uk for the Marriages and birth registrations ....
allan
Title: Re: garston liverpool 19
Post by: sianib on Saturday 30 October 10 21:52 BST (UK)
Thank you very much Garstonite
I think the T stands for Thomas.I know nothing about my grandfathers side of the family.I do know my grandfather william married a lady called lily in the wirral in 1935.They settled in north wales
I am trying to make contact with my grandfathers family but came to a standstill at saunby street.
If you have any more info on the rest of the family that would be great thanks Sian   :)
Title: Re: garston liverpool 19
Post by: garstonite on Sunday 31 October 10 07:56 GMT (UK)
William M Gibson and Lily Lloyd married in  dec qtr 1935 on the Wirral...and then moved to Wrexham,North Wales.
they had 3 children in Wrexham....and very possibly 1 in 1934 in Garston area (West Derby registration) and one 3 months before their marriage ..the child registered sep qtr 1935 in Birkenhead (the Wirral).....
their youngest child was born sep qtr 1947....allan
Title: Re: garston liverpool 19
Post by: garstonite on Sunday 31 October 10 08:14 GMT (UK)
Hiya Sian
Lily Mary Gibson married Thomas Fay in 1920 at St Thomas, Toxteth Park, Liverpool....7 children
Constance A Gibson married William V Davies in 1921 at St Michaels,Garston,Liverpool...looks like 4 children
Edna E Gibson married Charles V Woods in 1924 in St Michaels, Garston,Liverpool..5 children,all girls
Elsie May Gibson married John Byrne in 1929  -Liverpool register office or registrar attended..4 children...the youngest born 1948....
allan :)
Title: Re: garston liverpool 19
Post by: garstonite on Sunday 31 October 10 08:29 GMT (UK)
Sian
There is a possibility that  the youngest Byrne child is still in Garston...there is a phone number for a match to his initial here in Garston....I will PM you....allan ;)
ADDED...you will have to make one more post before I can PM you :)
Title: Re: garston liverpool 19
Post by: sianib on Sunday 31 October 10 09:45 GMT (UK)
Hi Allan
Thank you very much for all this info.My grandparents william and lily had 55 children that we know of.The youngest was my father born in 1947.We didnt know about the other two but again thank you.
Sian  :)
Title: Re: garston liverpool 19
Post by: sianib on Sunday 31 October 10 09:52 GMT (UK)
 :D sorry thats 5 children not 55  :D
Title: Re: garston liverpool 19
Post by: dwakeham on Monday 22 November 10 13:31 GMT (UK)
I'm researching a Lilian Mary Gibson b 2 Dec 1902 who married Albert Edward Wakeham. Can you help?
Title: Re: garston liverpool 19
Post by: garstonite on Tuesday 23 November 10 09:39 GMT (UK)
Hiya...I know a J*** Wakeham here in Garston...he would be around 42 ...I will ask him if they are any relation to him....where do you live?  and are you in touch with any Wakeham family in Garston ?......allan :)
Title: Re: garston liverpool 19
Post by: dwakeham on Tuesday 23 November 10 10:06 GMT (UK)
Thanks Alan for the reply.
My Grandmother Lilian Mary Gibson married Albert Edward Wakeham in 1921.
1911 Census shows Lilian as living in 56 Saunby St Garston and Albert in 17 Raglan St Garston.  They had 2 children and then something happened, perhaps he left for someone else. My Grandmother would not talk about it. She remarried twice. They went onto live in Pighue Lane and then to the Bowring Park area.
Only other reference I have is that my dad got a telegram whist at sea that his father had died suddenly on 13 Jan 1946. Not sure if this relates to his actual father or the person he thought was his father. Regards David
Title: Re: garston liverpool 19
Post by: Triciabg on Tuesday 30 November 10 12:39 GMT (UK)
Hi Allan
Thank you very much for all this info.My grandparents william and lily had 55 children that we know of.The youngest was my father born in 1947.We didnt know about the other two but again thank you.
Sian  :)
[
/quote]   Hi allen RE Gibson  family  the  Lilian  Gibson you told Sian about is the wrong one
she was not married To Fay and didnt have 7 children . she had 2. Harold & may Wakman
I am EDNAS daughter.  Sian William  gibson  known as billy was married to flora before  LILLY
and had 1daughter also named flora.  sian see David Wakham's mesages
SORRY  not very good at this 

Tricia bg
eman
Title: Re: garston liverpool 19
Post by: frirish on Monday 06 December 10 01:21 GMT (UK)
Hiya...I live in Garston and my family have been here since 1840`s ...very close knit community here..there`s not many families I don`t know.if I can help at all post here or PM me . allan


Jolly nice of you, Garstonite!
I am looking into my grandfather named Henry Gerard  Connor. He married Mary Alice Ross in 1917 in Kirkdale but the family was living on Long Mile Road where my uncles Harry, Desmond, Aunt Joan and my Dad Len were all born.
They immigrated to Canada in 1825.
Now my gran Mary Alice was a piano player and singer. She may have put in an appearance or two at the George Inn on St Mary's Road as her father's (Joseph Ross) barber shop was attached to it. My granddad was also a piano player-classical was more his style. Mary Alice had the opportunity to go to New York City  in 1915 to accompagny silent films. I belive she may also have sung in London. Are any of these long time Garstonites known to you? I sure hope so!
Cheers!
Nathalie :)
Title: Re: garston liverpool 19
Post by: frirish on Monday 06 December 10 01:23 GMT (UK)
Sorry they immigrated in 1925! :-[
Title: Re: garston liverpool 19
Post by: garstonite on Monday 13 December 10 09:35 GMT (UK)
Loads of Ross family here in Garston...and the George is still open...
and the Connor family boys areall good boxers...Iknow both families well
allan :)
Title: Re: garston liverpool 19
Post by: frirish on Monday 13 December 10 14:40 GMT (UK)
Wonderful!
Henry Connor had younger siblings- Jane who married a Mr. Ball; her twin Francis married a Meyer; Albert married Pauline Tollerfield and Edward I have yet to discover. The last address I have for them was Melbourne St. in Everton in 1911.  The Connor lads on this side of the ocean excelled at swimming-not much need for boxing here!
Now my grandmother had step-siblings-Maud, George, and two others that escape me at the moment. To confuse matters, she also had an older brother George. I have seen the George Inn inside and out from photos on the net.  Joseph and Mary (Maginnis-there are loads of them in Garston!) moved to James Street eventually. 

I wonder if the Connors/Rosses you know are from my lot... 

Any way to explore the possibilities?
Let me know-I am anxious to connect with my Scouse kin!
Cheers@
Nathalie
Title: Re: garston liverpool 19
Post by: garstonite on Tuesday 14 December 10 09:15 GMT (UK)
What number james street ?..I can take a photo for you...allan
Title: Re: garston liverpool 19
Post by: evie.scouse on Sunday 22 April 12 19:04 BST (UK)
Hi have only just come across this site today. Very much enjoyed the Garton posts. I lived in vulcan st till i was 6. my maternal family had lived there for many years before, Would any one know the Bates of vulcan st no 27 i think.  Frank Kitty John Betty and Ann It would be lovely if any one had any memory of them  regards
Title: Re: garston liverpool 19
Post by: dottyc on Sunday 22 April 12 23:21 BST (UK)
Sorry no, I cannot help you there.  It was my father and his family who lived in that area.

dottyc
Title: Re: garston liverpool 19
Post by: garstonite on Monday 23 April 12 07:16 BST (UK)
Hiya Evie
Google  Garston Woodcutters Social Club
and on the home site you will see on the left hand side a Geneaology link.
Members of the club have a discussion thread on there ...My mate is from Vulcan Street- I will ask him about the Bates family.
There are Bates family here, but it may be a while before I see any to ask them..
allan :)
Title: Re: garston liverpool 19
Post by: Mulan on Tuesday 31 January 17 09:37 GMT (UK)
Hello There
can anybody help me with information from  the Garston area of liverpool i am trying find a location site for  photographer  Morris Richards  Carlton studio   GARSTON
  Maybe a senior citizen may remember  hoping to hear from you 
thank you
Glenarm 

I am also researching this topic and was so delighted to find your message on this site. This photographer was my husbands grandfather but because all of the family have died I was having difficulty finding this information and he also called his business by his  Christian names rather than using his surname.

We have family photos from this photography studio with stamps on the back that say "Richards Carleton Studio Garston" "Morris Richards Photographer Carlton Studio Garston" and one with 2 stamp for Morris and a newer one on top with "Portrait by H.V. Richards 25 or 29 Wood Street Wakefield"  and my dad said Dick twice was actually Richard Richards. I wonder if Richard Richards is Morris Richards father? the photos date from 1923, 1934, 1940, 1942
Title: Re: garston liverpool 19
Post by: dottyc on Tuesday 31 January 17 14:11 GMT (UK)
HELLO THERE,

It was my Granny's brother who had the shop.   Their original family name was Cheetham and they all changed their name to Richards... Hence one brother become known at Dickie twice.   There were a lot of brothers (and also 3 sisters), and most of the brothers were photographers also.   Hence the one in Wakefield.   Are you a descendant of this family or have you just found some photos from the shop?

There are quite a lot of descendants still around by the way.   Perhaps they will contact you.

Best dotty
Title: Re: garston liverpool 19
Post by: Mulan on Tuesday 31 January 17 16:55 GMT (UK)
HELLO THERE,

It was my Granny's brother who had the shop.   Their original family name was Cheetham and they all changed their name to Richards... Hence one brother become known at Dickie twice.   There were a lot of brothers (and also 3 sisters), and most of the brothers were photographers also.   Hence the one in Wakefield.   Are you a descendant of this family or have you just found some photos from the shop?

There are quite a lot of descendants still around by the way.   Perhaps they will contact you.

Best dotty
Hello Dottie,  I am descended from cousins of Dickie Twice's wife according to my dad who met him. He mentioned other cousins Edwards's, Peggie Sharp and Ditchburn's does that ring a bell?
Thanks for the fast reply :-)
Esther
Title: Re: garston liverpool 19
Post by: Rayvnne69 on Tuesday 16 March 21 22:09 GMT (UK)
Dottyc Do you think we could be related somewhere