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Title: blakemore - snailbeach
Post by: newcastle on Tuesday 09 December 08 21:24 GMT (UK)
I am trying to sort out the numerous Blakemore's who lived at Snailbeach? Has anyone managed this?
Title: Re: blakemore - snailbeach
Post by: PaulineJ on Tuesday 09 December 08 21:30 GMT (UK)
http://surname.rootschat.com/

We don't appear to have anyone who has registered any interest for this name  & area.

Pauline
Title: Re: blakemore - snailbeach
Post by: suzard on Tuesday 09 December 08 21:33 GMT (UK)
hello newcastle

Welcome to RootsChat

If you care to post details (y.o.b., p.o.b. etc) of who you are puzzled over maybe we can help

Suz
Title: Re: blakemore - snailbeach
Post by: newcastle on Sunday 14 December 08 08:21 GMT (UK)
Suz,
I have managed to trace my family from 1905 to 1791 during which time they lived at Snailbeach Coppice and worked in the mine. As now at the stage when it is more difficult to track down certificates etc, I have ground to a halt.
The last definite I have is William, who in 1851 was living at Boycott? At that time he was 50 and married to Francis. Think he died 22 Nov 1864.
From IGI I think he married Francis on 24 Oct 1815.

Cheers
Title: Re: blakemore - snailbeach
Post by: silvery on Sunday 14 December 08 10:10 GMT (UK)
I can only see one William with wife Phanny both aged 60 (b 1791) and he is a butcher.  Is this the one you mean?

If he got married in 1815 I expect he would have been older than 50 on the 1851 (so born 1801).   

Have you got the references for the one you've found in 1851?
Title: Re: blakemore - snailbeach
Post by: Richard Knott on Sunday 14 December 08 10:18 GMT (UK)
I think your William was 50+ on the 1841 census (HO107/911/7):

Boycott, Pontesbury
William Blakemore, 50-4, farmer, Y
Frances B, 50-4, N
Matilda B, 15, Y
Frederick B, 15, Y
Ferdinand B, 14, Y
Lewesea B, 10, Y
Alfred B, 10, Y

There is a 68 year-old widowed William Blakemore, retired miller, living in Pontesbury in 1861. He was born in Asterly, Salop.

The 1851 entry has a 19 year-old Alfred with William, so they are probably all the same man, as Phanny is a variant of Frances.

Richard

Title: Re: blakemore - snailbeach
Post by: silvery on Sunday 14 December 08 10:25 GMT (UK)
Yep, that's the same one as on 1861 1851 with only Alfred 19 at home.

1861 - HO107/1990/324/27

William Blakemore 60, butcher b Pontesbury
Phanny 60 b Shrewsbury
Alfred 19, lead miner b Pontesbury


edit:   Frances = Phanny
Title: Re: blakemore - snailbeach
Post by: Richard Knott on Sunday 14 December 08 10:33 GMT (UK)
There do seem to be others searching for Pontesbury Blakemores, although these were originally posted a long time ago, the first was active quite recently:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=1722f9866959c874c42761d87fb90a2a&topic=69387.msg283653

http://genforum.genealogy.com/blakemore/messages/243.html

Richard
Title: Re: blakemore - snailbeach
Post by: newcastle on Sunday 21 December 08 18:53 GMT (UK)
Hi, Thanks for the replies, has helped me sort out the problem I had.
Title: Re: blakemore - snailbeach
Post by: Viktoria on Saturday 16 January 16 22:04 GMT (UK)
Hello, I have just come across your posts.
 My maternal grandmother was a Blakemore residing at the Coppice Snailbeach.
Her parents were David and Mary (nee Maddox)she had four brothers, William, John, David and Alfred.She had a sister Annie who married Tom Oldfield ,son of Captain Oldfield the mine manager.
If I can be of any help please let me know.I have a family photograph of the above mentioned people.
 My grandmother was Mary born 1866. she went to Manchester as a servant and married there in 1896. She died !916.
 I lived in Snailbeach all through the war so know it well.Viktoria.
Title: Re: blakemore - snailbeach
Post by: newcastle on Sunday 17 January 16 10:00 GMT (UK)
Hi
Yes all part of the same family, I have the photo, provided by Marcia who also was at Snailbeach  during the war.

I am the great grandson of David.

John
Title: Re: blakemore - snailbeach
Post by: Alberbury on Sunday 17 January 16 13:56 GMT (UK)
http://search.shropshirehistory.org.uk/collections/search/?q=Blakemore&cb_submit=Search

http://search.shropshirehistory.org.uk/collections/search/?q=William+Blakemore&cb_submit=Search

You might find something here.
Title: Re: blakemore - snailbeach
Post by: Alberbury on Sunday 17 January 16 14:06 GMT (UK)
https://familysearch.org

William Blakemore
England Marriages, 1538–1973
marriage:   24 October 1815   Pontesbury, Shropshire, England   
spouse:   Frances Hughes


http://www.melocki.org.uk/salop/Pontesbury.html       marriage misses
Title: Re: blakemore - snailbeach
Post by: David1988 on Monday 02 November 20 10:26 GMT (UK)
My great-grandfather George Blakemore's cousins were Dora and Gertrude Blakemore.

Gertrude married David Oldfield, whose mother was Annie Elizabeth Blakemore, who I believe was the sister of your maternal grandmother?

I wondered whether you knew if there was any relation between "my" Blakemores, i.e. Dora, Gertrude etc and "your" Blakemores, i.e. Annie etc?

It would be particularly interesting for me to find out, as it would mean that Gertrude and David's children would be doubley  related to me :)

It seems unlikely that there is no relation, given the same name and same town etc, BUT I cannot find a link so far.

I wondered if you might be privvy to any knowledge about any possible relation, and if so, would be so grateful if you might please share?

Hope to hear from you soon,

Stay safe,

David
(Mother's maiden name was Blakemore)

Hello, I have just come across your posts.
 My maternal grandmother was a Blakemore residing at the Coppice Snailbeach.
Her parents were David and Mary (nee Maddox)she had four brothers, William, John, David and Alfred.She had a sister Annie who married Tom Oldfield ,son of Captain Oldfield the mine manager.
If I can be of any help please let me know.I have a family photograph of the above mentioned people.
 My grandmother was Mary born 1866. she went to Manchester as a servant and married there in 1896. She died !916.
 I lived in Snailbeach all through the war so know it well.Viktoria.
Title: Re: blakemore - snailbeach
Post by: newcastle on Monday 02 November 20 19:02 GMT (UK)
Hi David
The Annie, born 1987, sister of my maternal grandmother has the additional name of Harriat not Elizabeth? Her parents Fredrick and Louisa Clift.
I have contacted a relative who knows more about Snailbeach to see if she can help. Will be in touch.

John
Title: Re: blakemore - snailbeach
Post by: newcastle on Wednesday 04 November 20 09:33 GMT (UK)
David
I have more comments from my relative.
Annie  Oldfield nee  Blakemore Was my  GGrandfsther’s sister.
The query is to find out if Fred Blakemore ( not   Ada’s  father ) the Blacksmith at CrowsNest and whose daughter Gertrude married  the  nephew of my ggrandfather  David Blakemore — David Oldfield .

The enquirer is trying to find if Fred the blacksmith is of our family too.

Are we looking at the same people?

John
Title: Re: blakemore - snailbeach
Post by: David1988 on Wednesday 04 November 20 11:49 GMT (UK)
Hi John,

Thanks for your messages. Fred (father of Gertrude) was my great grandfather's brother.

My Mum has fond memories of visiting Gertrude and David, as well as her sister Dora and husband as a child (afternoon tea, feeding the chickens etc!)

I can't find any link between "your" Blakemores i.e. David Oldfield's Mum Annie (your great grandfather's sister) and "my" Blakemores i.e. Gertrude, her father Fred etc.

Do you know if there is one?

I have compared the two trees (as best I know them) and can't find a link, but perhaps I am missing someone OR it's way back (1700's) where both trees dry up?

I find it unlikely that there is NO connection given they have the same surname and are in the same town etc BUT it's not impossible, I suppose...

I just wish we had a time machine and could go back and find the answers! :')