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Title: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: Maia261 on Wednesday 24 December 08 11:29 GMT (UK)
This is my first foray into the Irish side of my roots so please be gentle with me.  :)

I don't have much information on my Great Grandmother but from her marriage cert in 1915 she was 23, this would point to a birth year of about 1892. Her parents are showing as Peter Kilroe, Farmer, deceased and Hester Kilroe, M.S. Shearin (not quite sure of this, I will post the relevant part of the cert and see what you all think).

My dad tells me she was from Ireland and that her father worked in the Tullamore Distillery and this basically is the only info we have and I don't know where to look to try and find out more so would be very grateful for any help at all.

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b364/Maia261/Family%20Records/DavidMackayMargaretKilroe.jpg)

Lynn
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: shanew147 on Wednesday 24 December 08 13:07 GMT (UK)
since Margarets birth looks to be after 1864 there should be a civil registration record - see the GRO website www.groireland.ie

the surname Kilroe is included in Griffiths Land valuation (1847 and 1864) with seven entries in Offaly, most of the rest seem to be fromn County Roscommon.  I see just one Shearin entry for King's county - and thats a Catherine

http://griffiths.askaboutireland.ie/gv4/gv_family_search_form.php

Griffiths only includes land-owners and people with long leases, so not everybody is included.

- I assume the M.S. Shearan bit stands for Maiden Surname ..


Shane
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: Jack2227 on Wednesday 24 December 08 15:57 GMT (UK)
A wedding of Kate Dalton to Patrick Kilroe of  Cloghanhill in 1878 might narrow down the area you are looking for. :)
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: Mick_Dolan86 on Friday 26 December 08 19:38 GMT (UK)
M.S. Shearin (not quite sure of this, I will post the relevant part of the cert and see what you all think).
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b364/Maia261/Family%20Records/DavidMackayMargaretKilroe.jpg)

Lynn

Could the "M.S." be a badly scanned "Alias"?
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: aghadowey on Friday 26 December 08 19:44 GMT (UK)
Scottish certificates use M.S. for maiden surname.
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: Maia261 on Saturday 03 January 09 18:16 GMT (UK)
Many thanks for the help and the links everyone. Sorry I should have said that the M.S. stands for Maiden Surname. We've come to the conclusion that the name is definitely Sheeran.

Thanks to a member's help I've managed to find someone that will do some checking for me in Dublin so finger's crossed I may start to get somewhere with this line at last.

Lynn  :)
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: Bobda on Sunday 15 February 09 00:35 GMT (UK)
I'm pretty sure that the Margaret Kilroe you refer to is my Grandmother on father's side

Cheers :)
Bob
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: Maia261 on Sunday 15 February 09 01:42 GMT (UK)
Hi Bob,

Margaret married David MacKay in 1915 in Inverness, Scotland, they had 6 children that I know of - 2 girls and 4 boys all born and brought up in Inverness. Margaret died in Inverness in January 1967. Does any of this ring any bells at all? Would be great if we had a link.

Lynn  :)
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: Bobda on Sunday 15 February 09 02:56 GMT (UK)
Hi Lyn,
Thnx for ur reply - it sure does ring a bell, I've sent you a message by ancestry.com with more of my details (not sure how I will receive / see your reply at mo but will look out for it :)

Cheers
Bob

Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: Lorelei on Thursday 27 August 09 23:48 BST (UK)
I know this is a long shot but my Mum regularly visited the Kilroe's in Tullamore and surrounds and also Helen Kilroe in Portadown. Are you by any chance connected to Armstrong/ Simmons
Caroline

Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: Maia261 on Friday 28 August 09 08:09 BST (UK)
Hi Caroline,

I'm no further forward with my Kilroes at all I'm afraid, just about all I know about them is what is in this post  although I have been told that Margaret had a brother who was known as Father Paddy. I'm not aware of any Armstrong/Simmons connections but there could of course be some that I haven't managed to discover yet.

I've had to take a break from Family research for the last couple of months as my youngest son was involved in a horrific accident, had a lot of broken bones and internal injuries and was in hospital for 6 weeks, he is making a good recovery and came home from hospital last week but is still in a wheelchair so it'll probably be a while yet before I can get back into it, I'll keep your post in mind and see what I can find out.
Lynn
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: Lorelei on Saturday 29 August 09 09:13 BST (UK)
Sorry to hear about your son. Wishing him a speedy recovery and take care of yourself too.
Do you know what religion the Kilroe family were? I think the family that I am looking for were Presbyterian
Caroline
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: Maia261 on Tuesday 08 September 09 17:47 BST (UK)
I now have some more information on my Kilroes thanks to the 1911 Irish census being online. They were Roman Catholic and Peter and Hester had been married 32 years by 1911, they had 12 children, 11 of which were still living. They were living at 1 Derrygrogan Little, Ballycommon, Tullamore, King's County with 8 of their 11 living children. Mary was a Laundress at 5 Church Street, Tullamore, King's County, Catherine was a General Domestic Servant at 80 High Street, Tullamore, King's County. I believe My Great Grandmother Margaret was in England at this time (from a letter written to her in 1914 from a friend in Germany).

Below are the children of Peter Kilroe and Hester (Esther) Sheeran:
1.   Mary Kilroe was born on Jul. 20, 1879 in Tullamore, King's County, Ireland
2.   Catherine Kilroe was born on Oct. 29, 1880 in Kilmoney, Cork, Ireland
3.   Hester Kilroe was born Between Jan. 1883 and Mar. 1883 in Tullamore, King's County, Ireland
4.   Thomas Kilroe was born Between Jul. 1884 and Sep. 1884 in Tullamore, King's County, Ireland
5.   Peter Kilroe was born Between Jan. 1889 and Mar. 1889 in Tullamore, King's County, Ireland
6.   Margaret "Peggy" Kilroe was born Between Jan. 1891 and Mar. 1891 in Tullamore, King's County, Ireland and died on Jan. 2, 1967 in Inverness at the age of 75.
7.   Michael Kilroe was born Between Apr. 1895 and Jun. 1895 in Tullamore, King's County, Ireland
8.   James Kilroe was born Between Jan. 1896 and Mar. 1896 in Tullamore, King's County, Ireland
9.   Annie Kilroe was born Between Oct. 1897 and Dec. 1897 in Tullamore, King's County, Ireland
10.   Christopher Kilroe was born Between Jan. 1900 and Mar. 1900 in Tullamore, King's County, Ireland
11.   Marcella Kilroe was born Between Oct. 1902 and Dec. 1902 in Tullamore, King's County, Ireland

Peter died in 1913 aged 57 and Hester died in 1912 aged 54, both in Tullamore, King's County.

So I am quite a bit further on, although it will be a while before finances permit me to buy the certs.

Lynn
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: chriskilroe on Thursday 17 September 09 19:38 BST (UK)
Hi,

I came across this post during a google search.I think I can be of benefit for you..what info do you want?
Im a Kilroe from just outside of Tullamore.

Christopher Kilroe (no 10) on your list is my grandfather if Im not mistaken

Ive confirmed this with my Dad that his Aunt Margaret moved to Scotland and married a McKay.
Anything you want to know and Ill provide it :-)
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: Maia261 on Friday 18 September 09 08:05 BST (UK)
Hi

Thank you for replying to me Chris, I have sent you a PM.

Lynn  ;D
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: aghadowey on Friday 18 September 09 08:34 BST (UK)
New members must make at least three postings before being allowed to use the PM facility.
See Help-Page:  http://www.rootschat.com/help/pms.php
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: Maia261 on Friday 18 September 09 08:48 BST (UK)
Thanks for letting us know Aghadowey, I knew Chris wouldn't be able to reply to me but I thought any message I sent would be viewable.

Over to you Chris, another 2 posts and we can exchange email addresses.  ;D

Lynn
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: Maia261 on Sunday 20 September 09 11:46 BST (UK)
Hi Chris,

Would you happen to know who Peter Kilroe and Hester Sheeran's parents were?

Do you also know where Peter and Hester are buried?

Look forward to hearting from you.

Lynn  :)
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: margaretcahill on Monday 05 October 09 23:23 BST (UK)
Hi Lynn,
James Kilroe on your list is my grandfather on my mother's side. I've just discovered the 1911 census and have been looking up some of my family also. I don't know the answers to your questions myself but I know some of my aunts will know more if you don't get to follow it up with Chris.

Chris, am I right in thinking your father (or you) are living in Ballycommon? My mother's maiden name was Kathleen Kilroe and her brother is Mick.

Margaret
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: Anzen64 on Sunday 15 November 09 18:01 GMT (UK)
Hi Lynn,
I am researching my paternal great great grandfather, Richard Kilroe. Kilroe is a very rare name here in the US. I though perhaps there may be a connection. Richard Kilroe immigrated to New York City in 1857 with his second wife, Eliza(beth) nee Webb. His first wife was Jane Kolly/Kolby??  who died in Ireland. Records I have found in this country have listed his birth place as Kings County, Ireland. It's possible that his marriage to Eliza(beth) was performed by Father Richard Buggy in the parish of Clonaslee in Laois. Richard and Elizabeth came here with a son, Sevian. They subsequently had children, John, Susan and Mary. According to Richard's death certificate his father was named, Michael Kilroe. His mother's name  was listed as Elizabeth Webb (since this was his wife's name I'm assuming that this is an error on the part of the person giving the information). Hoping to connect with family members of this Irish Kilroe branch. Would appreciate any replies.

Eileen

Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: margaretcahill on Monday 16 November 09 20:34 GMT (UK)
Lynn,
I went to the church in Ballycommon a few weeks ago to check for you if Peter and Hester Kilroe were buried there. The graveyard surrounds the church, which was built in 1841.

There was a grave with two different headstones. The first headstone lists Esther Kilroe, died 1912 and Peter Kilroe died 1913. It seems that they died shortly after the census was taken and within a year of each other at most. No other details are given about them. That headstone also lists Katie Kilroe, died 1952 and Thomas Kilroe, died 1958.
Another headstone on the same plot lists Esther (Hester their daughter I presume) who died 21/6/1959 aged 76 and Michael who died 15/6/1971 aged 77.

One of James Kilroe's daughters (an aunt of mine) is also named Esther so it seems the name has lived on in this form, although my mother remembers they having an aunt "Het" (Hester the daughter from the census). I can take some photos to send to you when I am home over the Christmas holidays if you want. My parents live in Tullamore.

I would like to try to find out more about where Peter and Hester Sheeran came from so I will try to do some research on this when I can but it may be the new year before I have time. There are some Sheeran's listed on the census form but without knowing a bit more about Hester's family it's hard to know if they are related. I'm attaching a google map of the area with the graveyard I mentioned marked. It includes many of the surrounding placenames so you can see which of the Sheeran families lived nearby.

I hope that's been of some help.

Regards,
Margaret
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: Maia261 on Friday 27 November 09 15:34 GMT (UK)
Hi Margaret and Eileen,
I am sorry I have not replied to this post before, I never received notification that there had been any replies.

Eileen, I'm unsure if we have a connection or not as I have been unable to get further back than Peter and Esther so far. A bit more diggin needed here.

Margaret, So we're 2nd cousins once remove, Hello cousin.  :D
Thank you so much for the info, that has been a great help, it would be wonderful to actually have a photo of the gravestones too if you can manage it. The name Hester has certainly lived on, David and Margaret had a daughter Hester, she also had a daughter Hester who is my Dad's cousin.

It would be great to be able to find out more about both the Kilroe's and Sheerin's, no rush, I know what it's like when life gets in the way.  ;D

Regards
Lynn
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: justasktess on Friday 01 January 10 15:16 GMT (UK)
Hi Lynn

Magaret Kilroe was my fathers aunt. Hester and Peter are his grandparents and my great grandparents. christopher Kilroe  magaret brother was my grandfather. That makes me and Chris first cousins!.  let me know if you need any information and i will try and find out what i can.

cheers

Tess.
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: Maia261 on Friday 01 January 10 15:38 GMT (UK)
Hi Tess,

Great to hear from you, and nice to "meet" a new cousin (2nd cousin once removed) on New Year's Day.

I still don't know very much about Peter and Hester and would love to know what their parent's names were, and basically anything about their lives that you know would be good to know too. Once you've made a couple more posts we can PM each other and exchange email addresses as I would also love to know more about their descendants as well.  :)

Lynn
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: justasktess on Friday 01 January 10 17:35 GMT (UK)
Hi Lynn

Great to hear from you as well i have been trying to research my family tree but finding the time is hard. I will talk to my dad when i am back up in Tullamore and try and find out more information. I think peter's father was called Tom kilroe but not 100% sure.

lovely to hear from you keep in touch.

Tess.
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: Anzen64 on Thursday 07 January 10 00:22 GMT (UK)
Lynn,
Thanks for the reply. I have just yesterday found a marriage record for Richard Kilroe and Eliza Webb who married in Clonislee, Queen's County.  I believe this is very near Offaly where Richard was supposed to be born. I suspect Eliza may be the daughter of local school teacher, John Webb, who was with the school in Clonislee from 1832 to at least 1854. I'm sure there is a connection somewhere back there among the Kilroes. Hopefully when you get back farther you can let me know. Would love to learn more about my Kilroe family and some day find relatives still living in Ireland. Many thanks.

Best Regard
Eileen
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: Mary Fitz on Thursday 21 January 10 10:43 GMT (UK)
Hi Lynn.

My mother, Esther Kilroe (daughter of Christopher Kilroe) who was called after Esther Sheerin Kilroe, is a niece of your great grandmother.  I am your second cousin once removed.

Further information re the Kilroes -

Esther Kilroe died aged 54 years from Exhaustion

Peter Kilroe died aged 57 years from Bronchial Pneumonia

Catherine (Katie) Kilroe who never married worked in a police station in Scotland before she retired and returned to Ireland. 

The house where your great grandmother and my grandfather lived is still inhabited by my late uncle’s widow.  I will send a photo in time.

My mother knows where all of your great grandmother’s siblings are buried.  Again, I will send photos of the headstones in time.

My mother met your great grandmother when she came home to Ireland to visit her siblings in 1946.

Your great grandparents brought their grand daughter (Anne Lucas McKay) with them when they came to Ireland. 

Shortly after your great grandmother’s visit my mother’s sister was born.  She was called after your great grandmother.

The family has done a lot a work in tracing the family history.  I have a lot of information but there is a gap. 

I will mail you in the next week or so when I have the gap resolved.

Regards,

Mary
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: Maia261 on Thursday 21 January 10 11:37 GMT (UK)
Hi Mary,

Great to hear from you, thank you so much for replying, to see a photo of the house would be wonderful, also photos of the gravestones and knowing where they were buried would be great.

Do you still live in Ireland? It's great to know that the family have also been tracing the family history.

My Dad's cousin Hester, who will be your second cousin works with me, I have just told her about your reply and she is also very excited.

Anne would have been 6 when she visited, her father was a writer in the navy and was killed on the 16th of November 1940 in Bournemouth, Anne was born between October and November 1940. Anne sadly died on 23rd of December 1954 aged 14 in Inverness, after her Mum died on 25th August 1954 in Edinburgh aged 34 during a pioneering heart operation.

Looking forward to hearing more from you in time.

Lynn   :D
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: justasktess on Thursday 21 January 10 11:52 GMT (UK)
Hi Mary

I am Theresa (Tess) kilroe daughter of James Kilroe so that makes us first cousins. I am currently trying to research the family tree and would love if i could meet Esther and yourself to get more background information if that would be possible.

Cheers

Tess.
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: Mary Fitz on Monday 01 February 10 09:26 GMT (UK)
Hi Lynn,

Further info:

Peter Kilroe’s father was Michael Kilroe who was alive at the time of the 1911 Census.  His mother was Mary Dunne. 

Esther Kilroe’s parents were Thomas Sheerin and Catherine Claffey.

I have a copy of Peter and Esther’s marriage certificate and a copy of their death certificates.  I will give you copies of these in time.

As you know, Peter and Esther had 12 children but Elizabeth died in 1900 at the age of 14. 

The graveyard where Peter, Esther, Elizabeth and 5 of Margaret’s adult siblings (Catherine, Esther, Thomas, Peter and Michael) are buried is about half a mile from Peter and Esther’s home.

Peter and Esther got married in 1878 in the church adjoining the graveyard.

Margaret has 17 nieces and 5 nephews alive today.

I live about 20 minutes drive from Ballycommon where Margaret grew up.

My mother told me that Margaret was called ‘Marg’ by the family in Ireland.

How many children did Margaret have?  How old was she when she died?  Do you have any photographs of her?

Chat to you soon when I have more info.

Regards,

Mary.

-------------

Teresa, Will get in contact with you when I have all my research completed.

Regards,

Mary.
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: justasktess on Monday 01 February 10 12:32 GMT (UK)
Thanks mary

looking forward to hearing from you.

cheers Theresa
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: Maia261 on Monday 01 February 10 12:49 GMT (UK)
Hi Mary,

Oh wow, thank you for that info, I think we definitely need to take a wee trip over to Ireland to meet everyone and to have a look at the church and graveyard, hopefully this year sometime.

Margaret was known to everyone over in Scotland by the name Peggy. She had 6 children, 4 boys and 2 girls, 1 of whom is still alive. Margaret died in 1967 aged 76. I do have photographs of her.....I have PM'd you my email address, you should be able to read the PM when you have made 3 postings to the board.

Regards
Lynn
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: Jack2227 on Wednesday 21 April 10 12:31 BST (UK)
Durrow cemetery, (outside Tullamore)

Headstones;

Christopher Kilroe; (Ballinamona) 14/1/1970 (70)
Catherine (wife); 29/10/1974 (65)

James Kilroe; (Coniker); 27/1/1976 (80)
Annie (wife); 31/10/2000 (85)

http://www.genealogylaois.com
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: Maia261 on Saturday 24 April 10 11:52 BST (UK)
Hi Sean,

Thank you for that information, much appreciated.

I'm sorry but I have a couple of questions if that's OK?

After Christopher's name it has Ballinamona and after James it has Coniker, is that where they died?

Did you request the information from the site you gave a link to? If so, how did you know to look there?

Sorry for all the questions, still trying to get to grips with research in Ireland.....and not getting very far to be honest.  :) ???

Lynn
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: Jack2227 on Saturday 24 April 10 20:51 BST (UK)
Hi Lynn,
I was in Durrow cemetery looking for other headstones, but remembered the name Kilroe, as it's not very common, and duly noted the names!! (sure I'm great!!!)
The names of places would be their address at time of death, villages, I would presume.
I sse bt looking at the posts you have a lot of info, but if I come across any more, I will post same,
Jack
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: Mary Fitz on Friday 30 April 10 16:13 BST (UK)
Hi Lynn,

Christopher and James Kilroe are Margaret's brothers.

My email is down at the moment but will sort same over the weekend and give you a shout then.

Regards

Mary.
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: Jack2227 on Monday 09 May 11 16:43 BST (UK)
Kilroe- Durrow cemetery
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: btc on Wednesday 11 May 11 22:15 BST (UK)
Ballinamona and Coniker are townlands in Durrow although the first is close enough to Tullamore. A son of Christy, in the headstone, lives in Ballinamona and would be receptive to snail mail.  I didn't know the family branch in Coniker and I don't think they are still there but there is another part of the same branch living at the High Road in Durrow probable address is Ballybought, Durrow.  These families are all related back to Ballycommon.
BC
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: Anzen64 on Thursday 01 March 18 22:10 GMT (UK)
Hi Lynne,
It has been a while since I have visited this board. I had contacted you quite a while ago about my Kilroe family. We hadn’t been able to connect because more research was needed. Happy to see you have gotten a lot of info. This week I have found a match to my DNA through Ancestry.com who is a woman descended from Peter and Esther Kilroe through Christopher Kilroe’s son, Patrick and his wife Pauline Dunne. In reading over all the latest posts I wonder if the Michael Kilroe who died in 1917 and was born in 1823 could be a brother to my Richard who was born in 1820s, Richard’s DC states his father was Michael as well. Richard also lived to be pretty old in spite of the hard life he had. He was a laborer and lost two of the fingers on his right hand during the Battle of Petersburg in the American Civil War. I am pretty certain that if I share DNA with this other Kilroe descendant it would be through the Kilroe line. I was fortunate to travel to Ireland a year or so ago and stayed in Tullamore. It would be great to take the Kilroe family back further but records are so sparse. Will keep digging! Recently found that Richard and his first wife, Jane Kolly, were married in Moate and had 2 sons,, Stephan and Thomas. Don’t know what happened to them. Just very excited to have found a DNA match with Kilroe ties. I have written to the woman I match but have not heard back, hopefully I will. I will definitely tell her about this post so she can check it out. Hopefully it is still an active thread! Best,
Eileen
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: Maia261 on Friday 02 March 18 10:25 GMT (UK)
Hi Eileen,

I have found dribbles of information on my Kilroes but not really that much further forward (or backward as the case may be).

My 3 X Great Grandfather Michael Kilroe (Peters' father) was born between 1821 and 1831 in either King's County or Westmeath.

Married Mary Dunne on 26 Sep 1852, Kilbeggan, Moycashel, County Westmeath, Ireland (Ireland, Catholic Parish Registers, 1655-1915)
Also found here: https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000635217#page/170/mode/1up

1901 Census: 15 Montrath, Rahugh, Kilbeggan, Moycashel, County Westmeath, Ireland - a Farmer aged 70 (potential birth year 1831), Birth Place: King's County with wife Mary aged 70 (her actual age was 73) and unmarried son James aged 40

1911 Census: 28 Montrath, Rahugh, Kilbeggan, Moycashel, County Westmeath, Ireland - a General Labourer & widower aged 90 (potential birth year 1821), Birth Place: Westmeath with unmarried son James aged 50

Death: 9 Apr 1917, Lunatic Asylum, Mullingar, Kilbeggan, Moycashel, County Westmeath, Ireland. Age: 94. Married. Labourer. From Mountrath, Tyrrellspass, County Westmeath, Ireland. Senility: 4 years, 1 month & 25 days. Informant: J. Duignan, Mullinger, present at death. (potential birth year 1823)

He is buried at Rahugh, Tullamore, Kilbeggan, Moycashel, County Westmeath, Ireland with no headstone (this information from Mary fitzpatrick)

I have been unable to find a baptism for Michael so far, although I have information that his parents could possibly be Peter Kilroe & Mary Walsh (I can't for the life of me remember where this came from) or Michael Kilroe & M. Brennan.

I have the following children for Michael and Mary, there are gaps, especially between Peters baptism in 1855 and Michaels in 1860. I have also been unable to find a baptism for James despite scouring the records - this is not helped by me getting side-tracked when I come across other records from other branches while doing so - I need to be more focused and strict with myself:

Mary Kilroe
Birth 1853 • Kilbeggan, Moycashel, County Westmeath, Ireland
Baptism: 24 Apr 1853 • Kilbeggan, Moycashel, County Westmeath, Ireland
Death 27 Jul 1933 • 1 Seapoint Road, Bray, County Wicklow, Ireland

Mary married James Crinnion on 8 Aug 1875 • Roman Catholic Chapel of Kilbeggan, Kilbeggan, Tullamore, County Westmeath, Ireland and I have traced 9 children for them but no Michael which would follow the Irish naming pattern.

Peter Kilroe (My 2 X Great Grandfather)
Birth 1855 • Kilbeggan, Moycashel, County Westmeath, Ireland
Baptism: 25 Feb 1855 • Kilbeggan, Moycashel, County Westmeath, Ireland
Death 21 Jul 1913 • Kilmurry, Ballycommon, Tullamore, King's County, Ireland

Married Esther Sheeran 15 Aug 1878 • Tullamore, King's County, Ireland (Unfortunately no image available) and I have traced 12 children that they had.

Michael Kilroe
Birth 1860 • Kilbeggan, Moycashel, County Westmeath, Ireland
Baptism: 29 Jun 1860 • Kilbeggan, Moycashel, County Westmeath, Ireland
Death Unknown
No further information found on Michael.

James Kilroe
Birth ABT 1861 • Kilbeggan, Moycashel, County Westmeath, Ireland
Baptism: None found
Death 6 Jan 1941 • Mountrath, Kilbeggan, Moycashel, County Westmeath, Ireland (James died a bachelor in a house fire)

So in essence, the sticking point is still Michaels' birth and parentage and it is this I really need to concentrate on and methodically search the baptisms, probably fanning out from Kilbeggan to have any success and not get side-tracked when I find other lines.  :)

Best Wishes
Lynn
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: Anzen64 on Sunday 04 March 18 00:22 GMT (UK)
Lynne,
Thanks so much for getting back to me so quickly, I appreciate all the info you sent and have printed out the data. I was so interested to see that you think it oossible that Peter Kilroe’s grandfather might be named Michael. Michael is the name listed on my GGGrandfather’s death Certificate issued in New York City. That could make him Peter’s uncle and explain my DNA match to another of Peter’s descendents. I have been looking through the RC records also in hopes of finding a clue. As I have said Richard Kilroe was married the first time in Moate and again in Clonaslee after his first wife died. Loking at the map all these places are relatively close. Will keep digging on my end and if I find anything will post it here to share. Many thanks!
Best,
Eileen
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: mitchy1121 on Tuesday 12 March 19 17:38 GMT (UK)
I searching for relatives of my 2nd great grandmother Catherine Kilroe 20 May 1872 Banagher , Kings County -27 Nov 1936 NYC married Matthew Murray

Her Parents :
Laurence Kilroe 1838 Ferbane - 19 Jun 1911 Offaly has a townsland i was told but can't find.
married I believe Parsontown  1864
Bridget Dolan 1835 ? Lisdaly
19 Dec 1916 Cloughillmore Kings Co.
Cant find their parents or siblings!! Any help would be greatly appreciated. Michele OBX,NC
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 12 March 19 17:44 GMT (UK)


Laurence Kilroe
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/King_s_Co_/Huntston/Cloghal_More/1460505/
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 12 March 19 17:47 GMT (UK)




Laurence Kilroe
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/King_s_Co_/Hunston/Cloghalmore/550351/
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: mitchy1121 on Tuesday 12 March 19 22:46 GMT (UK)
Thank you Hallmark .
I have those cenus and I'm trying to get passed Laurence Kilroe and Bridget Dolan's Ancestors parents etc...  Also I was told  he had a townland he owned but can't find the name of it.
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: dathai on Wednesday 13 March 19 09:16 GMT (UK)
Laurence son of Patrick
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGJS-6SK

William son of Patrick to Kate Dalton 1877
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1878/11093/8059965.pdf

1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/King_s_Co_/Huntston/Cloghal_More/1460510/

1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/King_s_Co_/Hunston/Cloghalmore/550349/

Kerin Kiroe born 1877 to Thomas and Anne Rigney
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1877/02987/2094486.pdf

1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/King_s_Co_/Huntston/Cloghal_More/1460511/

so i wonder who this fellow is
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/King_s_Co_/Huntston/Lissaniska/1460563/

1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/King_s_Co_/Hunston/Lissaniska/550406/
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: dathai on Wednesday 13 March 19 09:19 GMT (UK)
possibly ?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1919/09687/5513266.pdf
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: hallmark on Wednesday 13 March 19 09:29 GMT (UK)
Thank you Hallmark .
I have those cenus and I'm trying to get passed Laurence Kilroe and Bridget Dolan's Ancestors parents etc...  Also I was told  he had a townland he owned but can't find the name of it.



Ehhhhh....... Cloghalmore??
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: dathai on Wednesday 13 March 19 10:02 GMT (UK)
Feb 1919 Kieran Kilroe was the informant on Mary Dolan's death
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1919/05150/4419727.pdf
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: dathai on Wednesday 13 March 19 11:27 GMT (UK)
At Kieran Kilroe's marriage 1919 the witness was Kieran Flynn
Kieran Flynn was also the informant on Francis Dolan's death 1918
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1918/05186/4432091.pdf

so looking for a relationship i found
Michael Flynn married Anne Dolan age 24 in 1872  she was the daughter of Pat Dolan,decd
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1872/11299/8145299.pdf

son Kieran 1875
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1875/03090/2132855.pdf

1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/King_s_Co_/Huntston/Cloghal_More/1460499/
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: dathai on Wednesday 13 March 19 12:49 GMT (UK)
there are some baptisms on here for children of Patrick Dolan and Anne Daly 1830s/1840s   difficult to make out some of the children's names
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632386#page/55/mode/1up
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: mitchy1121 on Wednesday 13 March 19 13:22 GMT (UK)
Dathai, I'm a little confused is this for Laurence Kilroe born abt 1838-1911 Offaly wife Bridget Dolan born abt 1835 Lisdaly?
who is Daly and is Ann Dolan a sister to Bridget?
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: Sinann on Wednesday 13 March 19 15:34 GMT (UK)
There is no Laurence in Cloghalmore in Griffith's Valuation
There is a William sharing a house with Thomas Doorley they have no land and Patrick with house and land, the whole area is owned by Lord Ashbrook.
Could Patrick be his father?
http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=nameSearch
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: mitchy1121 on Wednesday 13 March 19 22:13 GMT (UK)
I believe his father to be Patrick Kilroe.
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: dathai on Thursday 14 March 19 16:20 GMT (UK)
Hi Mitchy
             i was suggesting that Pat Dolan and Anne Daly may be the parents of Bridget Dolan Laurence's wife and the other marriage's possibly her siblings

Dathai
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: mitchy1121 on Friday 15 March 19 15:18 GMT (UK)
27 Nov. 1878: Kate Dalton of Lissaniska of William Dalton, farmer to Patrick Kilroe, farmer of Cloghanhill of William Kilroe at Parsonstown RD.

Can someone tell me is Kate a Kilroe?
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: hallmark on Friday 15 March 19 15:22 GMT (UK)
27 Nov. 1878: Kate Dalton of Lissaniska of William Dalton, farmer to Patrick Kilroe, farmer of Cloghanhill of William Kilroe at Parsonstown RD.

Can someone tell me is Kate a Kilroe?



Kate Dalton is Kate Dalton of Lissaniska



Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: dathai on Friday 15 March 19 15:38 GMT (UK)
I posted that marriage already its 1877
Kate Dalton daughter of William Dalton married William Kilroe son of Patrick Kilroe,decd
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1878/11093/8059965.pdf
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: mitchy1121 on Friday 15 March 19 17:31 GMT (UK)
For some reason I have Kate Dalter b about 1853 ,  parents as Darby Dalton and Hanora Flynn .
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: hallmark on Friday 15 March 19 17:36 GMT (UK)



There may be two....have you checked the Church Registers?
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: mitchy1121 on Friday 15 March 19 19:31 GMT (UK)
searching
Title: Re: Margaret Kilroe c.1892
Post by: Anzen64 on Saturday 16 May 20 21:31 BST (UK)
Lynne,
Still cannot find any baptismal records for my Richard Kilroe, but based on several DNA matches that I have with descendants of Peter and Esther Kilroe as well as a match they have to another of my 3rd cousins who share the same lineage I am pretty sure Richard somehow belongs in this family group. It seems likely that he may be the brother of Peter Kilroe’s father, Michael Kilroe, who you have being born 1821-1831. Richard was probably born around 1817-1820. Info on death records is always so iffy, but the name Michael does appear on Richard’s DC and so your thoughts on Michael Kilroe and M Brennan would fit. The sister to the 3rd cousin I mentioned above also matches some Kilroes who immigrated to Canada about the 1840s. This couple was Lawrence Kilroe born 1782 and his wife Mary Dunn 1788. They had children John 1817, Bridget 1820, Michael 1821, Catherine 1823, Stephen 1827, Mary 1831 and Ann 1832. They all lived in Nepean, Ottowa, Ontario, Canada. Although Richard was reportedly born in Kings County he seems to also be connected to Westmeath since his first marriage took place in Moate. On the other hand some of the children of the Laurence mentioned were born in Tipperary and Limerick, so perhaps the family had been moving around and records are farther afield than Kings! Will keep digging and let you know if I find anything.
Eileen