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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Lancashire => England => Lancashire Lookup Offers => Topic started by: Pagr on Sunday 28 December 08 11:39 GMT (UK)
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:'( :'( Hi rootschatters,
I am a newbie and everytime I look at unread posts, I am always too late to help anybody, and I would like to help, so I am sad. So anyone who would like lookups in the RC baptisms, marriages and burials for St Joseph's Brindle, St Mary's Brownedge, Our Lady & St Patrick's Walton le Dale, St Bede's Clayton Green or St Mary's Leyland up to 1930 ish. I have transcribed them. Also oddments of other church's monumental inscriptions.
Just tell me.
pagr :)
For a look up request please start a new topic in the LANCASHIRE LOOKUP REQUESTS board giving as much information as you can.
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Hi
I dont suppose you've streched to Pleasington Priory have You ? I'm looking for the burial of Hugh Ackers, he died November 1908 in Blackburn. I know that he wasnt buried in the Municipal Cemeterys. he was of the Catholic faith. The Ackers family came from Brindle in the mid 1700s so anything you may have would be interesting.
Many thanks in advance
Mick
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:D Hi Mick,
You are in luck, although I haven't transcribed Pleasington Priory myself, I have copied members of my family from the transcriptions done by the Blackburn Branch of the LFHHS.
Also your Hugh Ackers is, according to Family Tree Maker, my 4th cousin twice removed!
Born illegitimately to Esther Ackers on 28th July 1861, father Levi Snape, bapt. Pleasington Priory, married Margaret Collins 8th August 1892 at Pleasington Priory and died 12th November 1908 in Blackburn and buried at Pleasington Priory.
I'd love to know how Hugh is related to you, and please contact me again if you need any more 'Acker info'.
Pagr
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Hi Pagr
You got me all excited now. We are definitely talking about the same chap.
Hugh is my Great Grandfather, through his son Hugh.
I'll PM you if I can find out how to do it.
Mick.
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Hi Mick,
Will be in touch very soon.
Glad to help
Pagr
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Pagr,
Did you come across any Tyrer's in St Patricks, Walton-le-dale?
Perhaps any baptisms from a Peter Tyrer and Esther. Also a burial for Peter Tyrer.
If I'm really lucky there might be a burial for a Richard Tyrer, Joseph Tyrer and a Benedict Tyrer.
Many thanks if you have time.
Regards,
Matt
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Hi Matt,
There is nothing at St Pats, but quite a few at St Mary's Brownedge and St Bede's Clayton Green.
Do you want all the details, baptisms, marriages and deaths and burials?
Could you give me a bit more info. and your email if possible as there is quite a lot to type out.
pagr
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Great. Thanks. Will send you a PM.
Matt
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Hi
First time for me. Your offer looks great. I'm interested in Waterhouses living in Walton le dale. They may or may not have been RC but William (born c1821, I have census for 41, 61, ....) married Susannah Greenwood at the RC church in Brindle so presumably one of them was.
I am searching for the birth of William Waterhouse and father Richard (birth date very vague as ages on censuses vary WILDLY), but Walton le Dale definitely. I knoiw there were several Waterhouse families in the area at the time.
Hope you can be of some help
Janet
PS Not related, but I have transcripts for Wantage and also Stanbridge, Eggington, Leighton Buzzard in Beds and am very happy to do look ups
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Hi Janet,
I found a William Waterhouse born 1st January 1822 son of Richard & Ann baptised at St Mary's RC Brownedge Walton le Dale. Godparents Lawrence Brown & Betty Woodcock.
There is a Richard born 11th Sept.1796 to Thomas & Ann bapt. at the same church who could be his father in 1841 he is aged 40-44 and 1851 58 years old.
There are dozens of Waterhouses in this area if you want more info send me your email and when I have time I will try and help in more detail
pagr
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Hi pagr
Amazing!! You have let me get another generation straight away. I am sure this is all correct for my family as I have the parents Richard and Ann from the censuses. Also, it gives Richard as born in Walton le Dale. I think the Ann is Ann Woods, marriage 24.5.1814 in Leyland.
I agree with the ages for Richard on the census, but I also have 1861 when it seems to be age 87!! - although it is pretty unreadable.
I have brothers and sisters from the censuses but no birth records - can't find William (my direct ancestor) in 1851. Ihave one, married to an Elizabeth, but I know that is incorrect as the same family is in 1861, where I DO have my William.
Any other info would be very gladly received. Thanks again
Hope I can give the same service to someone looking for the records that I have.
Janet
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Hi Janet,
Too much to copy out here, let me have your email please in a Pm
Thanks
pagr
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I too have Waterhouse ancestors in Walton-le-Dale, though I've not yet connected your Richard and William.
The Waterhouses were nearly all RC. In the period before 1837, you are likely to find that:
- Baptisms were are St. Mary's, Brownedge, being nearest RC church to their home.
- Marriages were at St Mary's, with a CofE ceremony the following day at St. Andrew's in Leyland, because Brownedge was in Leyland CofE parish.
- Burials were at St. Leonard's, Walton-le-Dale, being nearest burial ground to home.
Occasionally they used Brindle, but for most of Walton, it's not as easy to reach as Brownedge. Brindle church is older than Brownedge, and Samlesbury older still. In the early registers, transcribed by the Catholic Record Society, you see Brindle people's events at Samlesbury, and Samlesbury people's events at Brindle, so there might be ancestors in either place.
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Thanks very much
I don't know anything about the RC history - only just found that Waterhouses were RC - need to work out when they changed, as my grandmother (Mabel Waterhouse) was not RC as far as I know (no one left to ask now).
Don't suppose in your vast resources, you have the birth of Susannah Greenwood (William's wife?) I have:
Birth 7.7.1834, christened 27.7.1834, St Paul, Blackburn of Jabez and Betty, IGI, given as Susan (Know thaty IGi can be unreliable)
Thanks
Janet
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People seem to move pretty randomly between CofE and RC around here.
My gg grandmother Mary Waterhouse (RC) married Robert Alstead/Alston (CofE) in 1859. They were RC from then onwards. Their son Christopher married Emily Fulham (RC) and the family was RC until their eldest child was nearly of school age. Then they went CofE - the school was just up the street from where they lived. I've worked the date out as 1896-7 from the baptism records.
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Hi Pagr
Please may I have two Baptismal lookups for Our Lady & St Patrick, Walton le Dale
Mary Booth born 1880 Walton le Dale and Elizabeth Ann Booth born 1872 Walton le Dale,
Thak you
Simon
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Hi Simon,
Not at St Patrick's actually, but St Mary's RC Brownedge. Bamber Bridge, Walton le Dale.
Mary Booth born 2nd August 1880 illegitimate daughter of Helen. Godparents James & Elizabeth Ann Molyneux.
Elizabeth Ann Booth born 2nd February 1872 illegitimate daughter of Helen. Godparents James & Helen Cookson.
There is another Mary Booth born 2nd August 1880 daughter of John & Ruth[nee Waterhouse] godparents Richard Sharples & Jane Thompson.
If you need more help let me know. Also note I have changed my username from pagr to :-
paslwigr
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paslwigr
Many thanks for the look up, it was very kind of you
Sorry about the mix-up with churches, I keep forgetting about St.Marys in Brig
Kind regards
Simon
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Hi there
This is a long shot but do you have St Johns Old Haymarket Liverpool, 29 April 1823 Hugh Brannan to Mary Jane Gudgeon.
Fingers crossed.
Many thanks
Jenny
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Hi Jenny,
The Catholic lookups I offered on Roots Chat are just for Lancashire in the Walton le Dale, Brindle, Bamber Bridge, Clayton area.
pasliwigr
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Hi pasliwigr,
Ok thanks for your response. It was worth a long shot.
Best wishes
Jenny
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I am looking for the Noon family from Bolton Lancs.
William Noon, dob 15 April 1865, died Toronto Canada 15 May 1924, his wife, Mary Esther Latham, dob 15 April 1865, died Toronto Canada 27 December 1946, and finally his father Michael Noon (no other information) and his mother Bridgid or Bridget Oliphant (no other information). This is where the trail ends and I am trying to trace the family to the next generation.
Regards
Blake
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Sorry, missed some important information on the Noon family look-up
William Noon and Mary Esther Latham were married at St. Patrick's church in Bolton Lancs on 27 November 1881
Regards
Blake
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I have some new information about the Noon family from Bolton Lancs. Bridget Oliphant is not the correct name of Michael 's wife, it is Bridget Elwood. This information comes from across the continent from Vancouver, British Columbia. Hope this helps in your search for Michael Noon and Bridget Elwood as a married couple from Bolton.
Where did they come from?
Blake
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Brindle is quite interesting for religion. Church used to be St Helens (now St James) - site goes back 800 years to Uhtred!, obviously catholic until reformation but still half catholics afterwards in parish. I'm researching the workhouse and it was originally confiscated from catholic family Gerrards as used as a mass house - evidence of others as well.
Assume you're aware of Lancashire Irish branch of Lancs Historical Society - they have their own room with lots of resources in Clayton le Moors.
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I'm new at this,so bear with me. I need help looking up my ancestors. John Wright married Mary Ann Williams around 1846 in Manchester in a Catholic service, Maybe a St. Mary's Church, but not sure . John's parents were Frazer Wright and Mary Ann Roach, which I'm still not sure of their situation. Frazer was born in Scotland and married Mary Ann Roach OF England around the 1820's? But, the only Frazer people here have helped me locate married a Mary Ann Critchley. Not our Frazer, probably. Mary Ann Williams parents were John and Mary Ann. So, what do you think? Thanks, Bob, (Ribcage)
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Hi Pagr
I hope I'm in luck here.
I don't know the Lancashire area so when you say Our Ladys would that be Eldon Street Liverpool?
B1
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Sorry Bee_One,
The Catholic research I offered to help with is Brindle St Joseph's, Walton le Dale Our Lady & St Patrick's, St Mary's Brownedge Bamber Bridge, St Bede's Clayton Green and St Mary's Leyland. So no Liverpool I'm afraid.
I changed my name a few months ago, if I can help with the above area I am now,
paslwigr
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Hi Looking for baptism record of great grandfather Stephen Maloney born Liverpool 1877/78 father Patrick? Not sure if you can help.
Sorry I just saw the no Liverpool post!