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Title: 1851/1861 censii - WALLS
Post by: suemuffy on Monday 29 December 08 11:46 GMT (UK)
Hi

I would be grateful if someone could look up Henry and Maria Walls no DOB known and their daughter Sarah Ann born 1851 sons James 1853, Walter 1855 and Harry (Henry) 1862. Sarah was born in Whissonsett.

By 1871 they had moved to Lancashire but I would like to know more about the family if possible.

Thank you

Sue
Title: Re: 1851/1861 censii - WALLS
Post by: Tati on Monday 29 December 08 11:52 GMT (UK)
Hi Sue,

1861
RG9/1244 120 13
Whissonsett, Norfolk
London Street

Henry Walls, head, 44, Ag lab, b. Norfolk Colkirk 
Maria, wife, 35, b. do.
Sarah Ann, dau, 12, b. do.
James, son, 8, scholar, b. do.
Walter, son, 4, scholar, b. Whissonsett
Robert, son, 2, b. do.

 :)
Title: Re: 1851/1861 censii - WALLS
Post by: suemuffy on Monday 29 December 08 11:56 GMT (UK)
That's them.
Thank you Tati

Sue
Title: Re: 1851/1861 censii - WALLS
Post by: Tati on Monday 29 December 08 11:59 GMT (UK)
Not sure about this one but it's the only match I see ...

1851
HO107/1825 640 22
Colkirk, Norfolk

Maria Walls, mar, 23, b. Stanfield
Ann Maria, dau, 1, b. Colkirk
Mary Ann, dau, under 1 mo, b. do.
Elizabeth Williamson, visitor, unm, 25, b. Stanfield
Henry Williamson, visitor, 8 mo, b. Whissonsett
Title: Re: 1851/1861 censii - WALLS
Post by: suemuffy on Monday 29 December 08 12:05 GMT (UK)
Hmm....maybe. I know they were married in 1848 so that may be right if Henry was elsewhere. Could you look on the earlier census if possible please for Henry and Maria (Wilmerson)?

Thanks
Title: Re: 1851/1861 censii - WALLS
Post by: Tati on Monday 29 December 08 12:23 GMT (UK)
In 1851, Henry Walls (married, 26, Farm Labourer born Colkirk) is lodging at The Duke Inn, Fulmodeston cum Croxton.

1841
HO107/778/5 8 9
Colkirk, Norfolk

James Walls, 50, Ag lab
Elizabeth, 45
William, 20, Ag lab
Jemima, 18
Henry, 15, Ag lab
Francis, 13
Sarah, 11
Ann, 5

All born in county
Title: Re: 1851/1861 censii - WALLS
Post by: suemuffy on Monday 29 December 08 12:33 GMT (UK)
I wonder why, is it far fom where they are living? Also could that be Maria's sister Wilmerson rather than Williamson who is staying with her?
Thank you for the 1841 list, I now know his parents.

Sue
Title: Re: 1851/1861 censii - WALLS
Post by: Tati on Monday 29 December 08 12:33 GMT (UK)
I'm thinking Wilmerson and Williamson may be one and the same (snap! - quite clearly Williamson on the 1851 and 1841 image)  - remember an Abel Wilmerson marrying at the same time as Maria?

1841
HO107/778/25 5 4
Stanfield, Norfolk

John Williamson, 42?, Ag lab
Hannah, 45
Thos, 24, Ag lab
Betsy, 20
Able, 17
John, 15?
Maria, 12
Marian, 10
Fuller (male), 8
Samuel, 6

All born in county
Title: Re: 1851/1861 censii - WALLS
Post by: Tati on Monday 29 December 08 12:40 GMT (UK)
I wonder why, is it far fom where they are living?

Never been to England myself but google itinerary says ca. 6 miles  :)

 
Title: Re: 1851/1861 censii - WALLS
Post by: suemuffy on Monday 29 December 08 12:45 GMT (UK)
I have found Fuller on IGI definitely Wilmerson, parents John and Hannah, there are loads of other Wilmersons in that area though!
I have to go out now, but there is a lot to be getting on with,
Thank you Tati for all your help
Title: Re: 1851/1861 censii - WALLS
Post by: Tati on Monday 29 December 08 12:53 GMT (UK)
Yes, he's Fuller Wilmerson in 1851/1861/1871 and at 1st marriage; Williamson in 1841, 1881, 1891, 1901, at 2nd marriage and at death.

Quite confident it's the correct family then  :) 
Title: Re: 1851/1861 censii - WALLS
Post by: suemuffy on Thursday 08 January 09 14:37 GMT (UK)
I have decided that Maria had only just had her daughter (under 1 month) and her sister was looking after her.  They had sent Henry away to lodge and the new baby had not been christened, Mary Ann becoming Sarah Ann at a later date. I can't find any baptisms for either.
In what month was the census taken in 1851? Sarah Ann was registered in the Sept quarter.
Title: Re: 1851/1861 censii - WALLS
Post by: Tati on Friday 09 January 09 17:13 GMT (UK)
Hmmm. The census was taken on 30 March 1851 - too early for a registration in the September quarter  :-\
Title: Re: 1851/1861 censii - WALLS
Post by: barbie65 on Monday 15 February 10 23:01 GMT (UK)
I know much about the Wilmersons / Williamsons. I am a direct descendant of John Wilmerson b 1791 and his wife Hannah.
Thomas Wilmerson 1816 - 1895
Mary Ann Wilmerson b 1844 - 1929 - my great grandmother.
I am trying to find out more about Fuller Wilmerson / Williamson 1833 - 1912. I have found his first marriage in 1858 to Louisa Humphrey 1838 - 1896 but do not know if Fuller Wilmerson b 1866 was his son.
Fuller Williamson was in prison in Portsmouth according to the 1881 census. Trial on 1/4/1878 and imprisonment on 2/8/1878. There is also reference to a trial on 1/7/1857 followed by imprisonment. Does anybody know what he did?
Title: Re: 1851/1861 censii - WALLS
Post by: barbie65 on Monday 15 February 10 23:33 GMT (UK)
Here is my information on Maria Wilmerson and Henry Walls:
They married in 1848. Maria was born at Stanfield, Norfolk. She was baptized at St Margarets, Stanfield on 26/4/1829 and died at Haslingden, Lancashire in 1897.

Henery and that's the way its spelt in the 1881 census had the following family:
Ann Maria born at Colkirk and baptized at St Marys, Colkirk on 29/8/1849.

Elizabeth - baptized 11/5/1853 - St Marys

James 1856 - born Colkirk

Robert 1859 - born Colkirk

Harrey 1862 - born Norfolk - Married Elizabeth Taylor born 1867. He died at Haslingden in 1924 age 62.
One son, Harry, born 1889 at Haslingden, Lancashire

John William 1865 - born Newchurch, Lancashire

Annie Mary 1872 - born Newchurch - married Abraham Rawlinson 1870 - 1921 and had at least six children.

Samuel Walls 1875 born Newchurch and married Mary Ashworth. They had at least five children.

The family address in 1881 was - Booth Fold, Newchurch, Lancashire.

I cannot find any trace of Walter born at Whissonsett. he must have died young.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: 1851/1861 censii - WALLS
Post by: suemuffy on Wednesday 15 April 15 13:33 BST (UK)
Thank you barbie for your response, sorry it is delayed, I had not been notified so will have to check my records to see where this fits in!