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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Northamptonshire => Topic started by: Penholder on Thursday 01 January 09 12:41 GMT (UK)
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I have a whole list of baptisms for the children of my ancestor Thomas HAKES, but seem to be missing his son William.
From the census returns I think William would have been born around 1812 and his mother is probably Thomas's first wife, Sarah but he could also be the son of Tabitha, who was Thomas's second wife.
I also don't have a burial date for Sarah HAKES if anyone can help with that. It should be between 1809 and 1813.
Many thanks and Happy New Year to everyone!
Diana
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Hello,
I cannot find any match for William Hakes' baptism entry [upto 1812] in Northants, the closest match is the one copied below.
Regards
Alan
Wm HAKES son of Thos Eliz 1789 31-May Piddington C of E
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Hi Alan
Great to hear from you as I didn't think I was going to get a reply! It's really kind of you to take the trouble for me and thank you for the information. I think the William you have found is the uncle of the William I am trying to locate.
My William is 29 in 1841, when he's an ag. lab with William & Mary THOMPSON in Piddington. Then in 1851 he's recorded as the brother-in-law of William ALDRIDGE. William ALDRIDGE's wife, Rebecca, was originally Rebecca HAKES. She is the daughter of Thomas HAKES and his first wife, Sarah PELL. I have assumed William is her brother and probably also a child of the first marriage. Their father's second wife was Tabitha PEARSON. In 1851 she and her children are living next door to the ALDRIDGE family.
On Ancestry William, Tabitha and her children are all down as EAKES rather than HAKES in 1851 but that's a transcription error and it definitely says HAKES when you look at the original.
It's odd that William isn't in the register as all his brothers and sisters were christened in Piddington. I think his mother must have died soon after he was born and maybe getting him christened wasn't top of his father's priorities after that.
Anyway, many thanks indeed for your work on my behalf.
Regards,
Diana
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Hello Diana
I was interested to read your post, especially the link between the Hakes and Aldridge families.
I am trying to discover more about some Aldridges. Some very kind people on the site have help me with the following information George Aldridge married Catherine Hakes in 1808. Catherine was born in Piddleton 1786 the daughter of Thomas and Elizabeth Hakes. George and Catherine moved to Weston Underwood( George's village ) and had a number of children. Do these names mean anything to you?
I have a John Aldridge born around 1809 whose baptism and parentage I cannot trace. However his eldest daughter seems to have been with George and Catherine in the 1841 census.
Paula
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Hi Paula
It's great to hear from you and to learn of another connection between the HAKES and ALDRIDGE families.
Thomas HAKES & Elizabeth LEBBATT (married at Piddington 16th February 1780) were the grandparents of Rebecca HAKES, 2nd wife of William ALDRIDGE, so it looks as if Catherine HAKES, who married George ALDRIDGE, was Rebecca's aunt.
I'm afraid I haven't looked into the ALDRIDGE family at all as I have been trying to fill in the gaps in my more recent knowledge of the HAKES family. I'm slowly working my way through the Piddington registers - still a long way to go as I don't get to Northampton very often.
Last time I was at the Records Office I was looking at the Piddington Banns, 1754-1812 and 1813-1837, and I noted down the following:
- Wm ALDRICH otp X married Ann MOLSHER otp X 19th February 1804, witnesses Joseph & John WESTLY
- John ALDRIDGE otp married Ann KNIGHT otp X 7th December 1829, witnesses Wliiliam CHAPMAN & Sarah ALDRIDGE X
There could well have been other ALDRIDGE entries as I wasn't specifically looking for them.
I have a baptism for Kitty HAKES at Piddington on 9th April 1786, daughter of Thos & Elizabeth HAKES. Do you think she might be your Catherine?
Regards,
Diana
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Thank you Diana
I am pretty sure the Kitty is mine! As she was originally a Hakes you may be interested to know she had at least 6 children. 7 if my unbaptized John is her son too (as I suspect).
I don't know of a connection (yet) between William and Ann or John (who married Ann Knight) and my Aldridges. Sandy kindly identified John as the son of William and Ann. At least I am now pretty sure that the William and Ann's son is not my John.
I too will need to go to the Northampton record office, but thank you for the extra knowledge you have given me. It all seems more and more likely Kitty and George were John's parents. He was born about 9 or 10 months after they married.
Thank you again Paula
Thanks again.
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Hi Paula
I have registers other than Piddington that I intend to check - eventually - so I will keep an eye out for your John as he may have been baptised elsewhere.
Would you mind giving me the details of Kitty's children so that I can add them into my tree?
Regards,
Diana
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Hi Diana
Mary baptised St Lawrence Weston Underwood 29th January 1811
William " " 21 March 1813
Joseph " " 16 April 1815
James 5 April 1818
Elizabeth 2 July 1820
Caroline 7 Sept 1823
Anne 26 November 1823
These dates come from Buckinghamshire FHS records. Also on IGI (Hugh Wallis site ) except for Mary.
John according to census was born in Weston def married there. His eldest daughter Elizabeth seems to have been with Kitty and George in 1841 in Weston Underwood. His younger daughter Mary ( my Dad's grandmother) had the middle name Kitchen and the Mary above married a Christopher Kitchener but seems not to have had a family of her own . So I have reason to believe John is related to this family somehow.
1851- Gorge and Catherine Aldoirdge
I believe Kitty died before 1861 as cannot find her in census
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Hi Paula
Thank you so much for the Aldridge family information. I would never have found it for myself, especially with the random spellings of the names, and I'm extremely grateful to you.
Diana
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It's really lovely to come across others with little pieces of a puzzle. I am fascinated that links between families spread over generations. You have given me some really useful information too.
Thank you
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Might be of intrest to you to know that John Aldridge married to Ann Knight is The son of John Aldridge & Ann Molsher
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Hi caytiesmum, sorry to butt in but I have a John Aldridge born abt 1808 in Piddington married to Ann Shouler Knight and they have 8 children.
The Aldridge's are in my Fathers side of the family.
I have a Catherine Aldridge born 1900 Piddington, died 1985 Northampton married to a George William Hakes born 1900 Piddington, died 1975 Northampton.
Catherine was the half sister to my Grandfather Frederick FA Elliott.
Hope this helps?
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Hi, Do you have anything further on Ann Shouler KNIGHT?
I have an extensive collection of KNIGHTs (4000 odd entries so far but on hold) , but her name doesn;t ring any bells.
My KNIGHT family are from Little Houghton near Piddington and I am reasonably happy with the ones I have so far but I am wondering where Ann Shouler fits in.
I note that the marriage was witnessed by William Chapman- William (assuming its the same one) was the husband if Esther Knight of Little Houghton who I have identified as the sister of my own ggggf John Knight. John was difficult to track down due to lack of a likely baptism c1796. hence my database of so many Knights in an attempt to find him. Fortunately when he married in 1820 to Sarah SIKES at Little Houghton Esther Knight and William Chapman were witnesses. Esther and William marrried on the same day as John and Sarah but at Piddington- John Knight and Sarah Sikes (sic) were the witnesses. It must have been quite a scrambe for the two wedding parties dashing from one church to the next- however as in the confusion both brides gave their maiden names as witnesses I shall never know which couple got married first!
If William witnessed Ann Shouler Knights marriage he may have been related (trough marriage) unless of course he was the churchwarden- so if you have records of her I would be interested to add her to my collection- and may be able to help out if you have any queries regarding Knights of Northamptonshire.
Cheers
Jane
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Hi, my Ann Shoulder Knight seems to have been born in Woughton on the green, Bucks.
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Hi ,
Ok she doesn;t get an add into my database then ;-) - only people fro NTH make it in- otehrwise I would never stop!