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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Down => Topic started by: doctorbob on Tuesday 06 January 09 12:37 GMT (UK)
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Hi there, anyone able to do some footwork for me? I am looking for more info on William(1809) and Mary Ann Hawkins(1810) from Donaghadee. Hugo Francis(1842) (known as Hugh and mainly Francis) is my gt grandfather. By 1861 the family had moved to Plymouth, but their children were all born Donaghadee.
Anyone able to check on any Parish records for me. A long shot I know ... but any info would be great.
Many thanks in anticipation!
Cheers,
Rob
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Rob
Which denomination? Hugh might just appear in Presbyterian records.
David
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Yes its the denomination that will crack the query, i looked
Ros Davies Co Down website gives you
Mr. . Hawkins . Donaghadee An Innkeeper; Death Notice 8 Oct 1795 NS
Mrs. Jane Hawkins . Donaghadee Widow Of John Hawkins; Mother Of John; Carrying On Business At Hillsborough Arms 25 Feb 1796 NS
Michael Hawkins . Donaghadee Of Carney Hill; Leased A House & 2 Acres In 1863 From Nicholas D. Crommelin GV
Michael Hawkins . Donaghadee Husband Of Ellen Jane Mcclelland; Father Of Irvine Mckee Hawkins B. 16 Nov 1868 & Elizabeth B. 31 Jul 1871 CR
William Hawkins . Donaghadee of Shore St, Donaghadee; keeper of the public baths in 1846 POD
from familysearch.org an incomplete search found
Jessie Hawkins Birth: 1814 Donaghadee, Down, Ireland Marriages: Spouse: John Dick
James Hawkins Parents:
Father: Michael Hawkins Family
Marriages:
Spouse: Agnes Brown Family
Marriage: 29 AUG 1856 Donaghadee, Down, Ireland
Wife Age at Marriage: 17
Donaghadee Church of Ireland just to the W of Main Street in Church Lane
Baptisms & burials from 1771 , marriages from 1772; graveyard attached; gravestone inscriptions available UHF Vol 16; email me for a gravestone look-up; also try http://www.bangor.homecall.co.uk/index.htm
References;V7 p46, 47 OSM ; POD;NC; GIC; V16 MIs;GV; POD
1st Presbyterian Church
in the centre of Donaghadee town in High Street next to the Town Hall
Records from 1849; no graveyard
http://www.presbyterianireland.org/congregations/donaghadee1.html
http://www.emeraldancestors.com have a copy of the church booklet of 1925 with a church history on subscription
References; V7 p 47 OSM ; GIPR: GIC ;GV; NC; POD
2nd Presbyterian Church,
at the northern extremity of Donaghadee town in Warren Road/ Shore Street, on the sea shore
records from 1805; no graveyard; try http://shorestreet.org.uk/
References; V7 p 46, 47 OSM: DR ; NI: GIPR; GIC; MIs;GV; POD
Methodist Church
in Mount St., Donaghadee town across from Church of Ireland
Graveyard separate; gravestones UHF Vol 17
References; V7 p 47 OSM; POD; GIC; GV ; POD
using Griffiths layest website in 1863 griffiths.askaboutireland.ie/gv4/gv_
there is Hawkins Michael Carney Hill Down Donaghadee
Now back on family search are many more Carney Hill Hawkins
eg Robert Francis Hawkins Pedigree
Birth: 01 MAY 1880 Carneyhill, , Down, Ireland
Parents:
Father: Michael Hawkins Family
Mother: Ellen Jane Hawkins McClelland
so you may be able to knit them together, but which church were they going too.
Good luck, Jim
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Hi, thanks again Jim!
Their children were William(1831), Hugo Francis(1842) and Anna Matilda(1842). I cannot confirm that Hugo and Anna were twins yet given that DOB's can be +/- a year or so in census records!
Their father William was a ships carpenter, son William was in the RN as was Hugo who joined up as Francis. He was a baker/confectioner before and became ship's cook on many illustrious ships, eg Victory 1, Himalaya, Duke of Wellington etc!
They left sometime before 1861 and settled in Plymouth. Perhaps to escape the "troubles" ... not really knowing much about Irish politics at that time, I am guessing they were not Catholic given the names William and Mary. Unless you all know different of course!
I'll check the various links ... many thanks.
If you have any more bright ideas or can even visit the area (!), that would be great.
We are of course, all one big happy family busy chasing genes!
Cheers,
Rob
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Hello Rob
Any chance of connections to Belfast? After all it is not so far away from Donaghadee!
In the Cliften Street Cemetery Register there are a number of Hawkins burials recorded.
5 Feb 1849 Mary Anne Hawkins (aged 2) of measles. She was the child of William Hawkins of Lagan Street. Born in Belfast.
That would make William 1st 37/8 when the child was born or William 2nd would have been 16? when the child was born. It is interesting to speculate that the child may have been named after William's wife.
14 Sept 1854 John Hawkins (aged 18 months) of measles. He was the child of William Hawkins of 22 Grace Street. Born in Belfast
27 Dec 1860 Unbaptised child of William Hawkins, it was a premature birth. William was living at 22 Great Edward Street. Born in Belfast.
These three children were all buried in the same grave at Platform D Grave Number 46.
Also
2 Sept 1849 George Hawkens (aged 41) of decline. Described as a pensioner of 20 Shankhill Road.
Could this be a brother of William?
Gary
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Hi
There may well be a Belfast connection ... also it's interesting that none of the gravestones on the various sites show any sign of Hawkins (in the Donaghadee area).
I guess it would be useful to find marriage details of William and Mary Ann. I am assuming it was Donaghadee as all the kids were born there .. and the normal thing is to chase a cert around 9 months before the first born! ;-)
I would look for a William (snr) who was a tradesman as he was a ships carpenter, and I would guess that was fairly specialised.
And, where and how did Hugo get into baking and confectionary before becoming a RN ships cook???
William (jnr) was RN ... I am looking for his service record at the National Archives .. I already have Francis's.
Anything else?
Cheers, and thanks so far.
Rob
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Hi Rob
According the the www.glenravelonline.com "Belfast Timelines" there is the following newspaper story.
"June 1865. Six men drowned in a yacht accident on Belfast Lough near Greypoint. The names of the deceased were: Mr Andrew Gilmore, Pakenham Place and his son, a boy under 14 years of age; Mr Richard Allen, Canning Street, assistant engineer to the Harbour Commissioners; Mr Mathers, block and pump maker, Pilot Street; Mr Graham, foreman in Mr Mathers establishment; and a boatman named Hawkins. Only the bodies of Mr Mathers and Mr Gilmore were found."
No further details but this story might be worth investigating as there are several seemingly important people involved.
Gary
As it happens, in the Register of Shankill Parish Belfast (1745-61) there are several Hawkins recorded which might be worth keeping on file.
29 May 1746 Ann Mitchell baptised, son of William (of Mill St) and Grace nee Hawkins.
25 Dec 1748 James Mitchell baptised, son of William and Grace nee Hawkins.
22 Dec 1750 Jon Mitchell baptised, son of William and Grace nee Hawkins.
13 Jan 1750 Abel Hawkis baptised, son of Barnaby Hawkis and Jane nee McClannon.
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Thanks Gary,
Both William and Mary Ann are still going strong in 1881. WIlliam has been blind for some years and is listed as a Greenwich Pensioner (ie has a naval pension). Mary is now 70.
The earlier Hawkins may be useful info .. so thanks for that.
Cheers,
Rob
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I ran across your post from last year when I was researching my own Donaghadee connections. My ancestor is Samuel McLean and I have traced him back to county Down. He was born March 18, 1841 and I have found that he and his wife leased a house and land from Nicholas Crommelin in 1862.
Funny thing is that your ancestor leased a house and 2 acres from Nicholas Crommelin too. Both families lived in Carney Hill and were seemingly neighbors. On Griffith's Valuation, I searched for Carney Hill residents and found that only 22 residents were listed. One of them was Samuel McLain and one was Michael Hawkins.
So, I was wondering if you had done any more research around the Carney Hill area in that time period. Do you have any other details or resources that I might find of interest?
Thanks,
Cory McLain
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Just wondering if anyone is still volunteering to do lookups? Any information on Arthur Boyes (Boyce) and Sarah Johnson would be great. They were spirit dealers in Donaghadee. I am looking for his parents names? His father I think is John Boyes, mother uniknown. Any help would be great.
Thank you,
Regards,
Shirley
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Hi Shirley
Here is a link to the Ros Davies County Down web page for the name Boyes - Boyce. There is quite a bit of info on the family.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/SURNAMES/B/BouBoy.htm
I notice that Margaret Boyce (Arthurs daughter) married a John Campbell in 1847. It looks like we may be related in some distant way as I am researching the Campbell family from Donaghadee and I am also a John Campbell.
Best of luck with the search.
John
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Hello John,
Thank you for your speedy reply. I have a copy of the extract of entry in the register of marriages from emerald ancestors. John Campbell who married Margaret Boyes (Boyce) was a seaman and his father also John Campbell was a seaman. Ros Davies site is great, a treasure trove of information. Good luck in your search.
Regards,
Shirley
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I see that a Joseph Boyce was schoolmaster in Warren Road Donaghadee National School 3 in 1884. (Belfast and Ulster Street Directory)
I am trying to find something on a John Stewart or (Stuart) who was schoolmaster there before Mr Boyce.
Born 1844
Married Maria Kelly in Newtowncrommelin Pres. Church 1865
Living in Ballyvestor 1866 when first child Martin was born 26 May
A daughter Elizabeth was also born there.
In August 1871 John Stewart's wife registers the birth of a son at Newtowncrommelin. He is named John for the father and he is baptised there in October of that year. She gives her mother's address as her residence.
I have been unable to find out what happened to the father and would like to know if he
was the Mr Stewart referred to as schoolmaster of the Warren Road National school up to 1880 in the Street Directory.
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Street directories eg 1877 and 1880 http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/ show
New National School (No. 3), Warren Road - Mr. Stewart, teacher
Mary Lennon next youngest directory is 1860 I didn’t find the Stewarts.
PRONI website has a street directory data collection for other dates, do use it.
Griffiths Valuation data particularly on the askireland website in 1863, has 3 John Stewarts living nearby, one in DRUMFAD townland in position 11 on page, another in position 12 on same page of these one is John Jr and renting from John Sr, the third lives in in BALLYRAWER townland . this site could be showing the homestead boundaries of each tenant.
Tombstones exist in the neighbourhood, for example below are index entries to Bill Cardwell photos of tombstones which don’t often catch the full wording available. The full transcribed wording is available elsewhere Clarke, E. R. R. publications at UHF et al.. or Tombstones in Ulster.
Bill has given me permission to publish all or just extracts of my index to his resources
Steward Anne Templepatrick Graveyard, Miller Hill, Donaghadee www.graves2.homecall.co.uk/Templepatrick
Stewart A Donaghadee Parish Headstones www.graves1.homecall.co.uk/Donaghadee
Stewart A St. Andrew's, Killyman, Tyrone www.bangor.homecall.co.uk/Tyronegraves/KillymanParish
Stewart Al Templepatrick Graveyard, Miller Hill, Donaghadee www.graves2.homecall.co.uk/Templepatrick
Stewart D Bangor Abbey selection www.graves.homecall.co.uk/BangorAbbey
Stewart E Donaghadee Parish Headstones www.graves1.homecall.co.uk/Donaghadee
Stewart E Ballycopeland Graveyard, Images not complete www.graves.homecall.co.uk/Ballycopeland/index.htm
Stewart F Ballywalter, Whitechurch Cemetery, www.yorick.homecall.co.uk/Whitechurch
Stewart J Ballywalter, Whitechurch Cemetery, www.yorick.homecall.co.uk/Whitechurch
Stewart M Bangor Abbey selection www.graves.homecall.co.uk/BangorAbbey
I assume the Ballywalter one might be of interest, but is very difficult to read
PRONI or National archives Dublin may have the school annual reports, inspections, , memoirs and more etc
do try Rose Davies famous website freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/ Ros Davies allows copy and paste but not for commercial purposes atall
do look at John STEWART . Ballywalter son of Adam Stewart ; aged 21 married Jane Niblock 27 Sep 1851 CR, John STEWART - Donaghadee husband of Jane Rutherford; father of Thomas b. 9 May 1865 & Eliza Jane b. 15 Nov 1868 CR
John STEWART . Donaghadee husband of Ann Beckett; father of Mary b. 9 Sep 1870 & Margaret b. 3 Jul 1872 CR. John STEWART . Donaghcloney son of Robert Stewart ; aged 22 married Ann McConnell 24 Oct 1851 CR
printout her townland map of Donaghadee if you don’t have it or know the area
good luck, Jim
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Hi Henry, during ww2 i was evacuated twice from Belfast, once to Ballycastle in the early summer of 1941/2 and then by autumn to some kind distant relative a Miss Williams living in Ballywilliam on the Warren road. I walked each day along this seaside road into north Donaghdee where i went to the primary school for a year or less. That road during stormy weather had waves blowing up and crashing down onto it, sweeping across it to its far pavement or path. I remember being scared stiff by the force of it all and later the fun of judging when the next wave struck and running along the road as the water drained away, just before the next one struck. My memory of the school and teachers is nil, which means it was good as my belfast private school was run by a sadist, and that memory remains. Years later i volunteered while working at the Linenhall library Belfast to do an exhibition of books etc about Donaghadee. It was Pay back time and it was my best exhibition. Does that make me a blowin?
Jim
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This reply is in specific reference to Reply #12.
The data matches in part the marriage of a John Stuart to a Maria Kelly on April 22 1865 at Newtowncrommelin Presbyterian Church. This John Stuart is a school teacher, and the entry for place of residence at time of marriage is Limavallachon......Dunaghy. They seem to be two different places for whatever reason: Dunaghy is in Ballymoney. The other word may refer to Limavallaghan Road, between Clough and Newtown Crommelin.
My real interest is your reference to Maria Kelly giving her mother's address at the time of the birth of one of her children. Does that reference include the name of her mother? This specific Maria's father was my 3rd Great Grandfather, David Kelly, and at the time of the family's registration in that church (March 1863), the entry reads "David Kelly, Mrs. Kelly and Maria Kelly". The name of Mrs. Kelly has so far eluded us. If I may also ask, what form is the identification of the address of Maria's mother? We may be able to match it up with known (leased) property I.D.s in the area. It is of interest that the two children are named John and Elizabeth, as we suspect Mrs. Kelly's name was Elizabeth too.
As for John, while we may be reviewing two distinct people and families, there is the possibility that he worked where he could, and his wife and children remained for a period in the company of Maria's mother. I have been told that Stuart is the traditional Catholic spelling, but people did change their names or spelling for all sorts of social reasons. Is it possible that this John Stuart and the long-serving Headmaster of the school built in Newtown Crommelin in 1888, the distinguished John Stewart, were one and the same person?
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Limavallachon......Dunaghy. They seem to be two different places for whatever reason: Dunaghy is in Ballymoney. The other word may refer to Limavallaghan Road, between Clough and Newtown Crommelin.
Limavallachon was more than likely the writer's variant spelling of Limavallaghan, which was a townland in Dunaghy parish. Whereas Dunaghy, the townland, was in Ballymoney parish.
The 1851 census for Limavallaghan townland is one that survived:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/derek.hawthorne/Antrim5104.html
though no Stuart/Stewart or Kelly in the townland at that time.
Apparently a Helen Gillespie was wife of the John Stewart, school master Newtoncromellin:
see reply #2 at
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=300464
which seems to matche with this 1901 census (albeit ignore location/transcription errors):
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Crumlin/Village_of_Newtown_Crumlin/929934/
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Thank you ScotMum. That information means ends my speculation that the two John Stuart/Stewarts are the same person.
Back to the real search.....what is Maria Kelly's mother first name?
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One possibility to consider.
Your 'Mrs Kelly' has a son John. Isabella writing to her and John only, could suggest Mr Kelly is deceased by the 1892 letter.
PRONI have an 1890 Will entry for a David Kelly of Skerry East. You have said David was name of your Mrs Kelly's husband. The David of the entry leaves everything to a son John. We know your David had a son John. Skerry East fits for Newton Cromellin area.
If you then look at this 1901 Census entry (again ignore it mistakenly being indexed/transcribed under Crumlin):
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Crumlin/Skerry_East/929884/
you see a John Kelly in Skerry East, with his family. This family includes a widowed mother, Mary Anne Kelly aged 71 (albeit aged 90 on 1911 census - a better age 'fit' to have the possibility of a child marrying in 1860s).
A lot of coincidences or, perhaps, your 'Mrs Kelly'?
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My most senior David Kelly had sons John and Robert, and daughter Maria. Together with "Mrs. Kelly", they came to Newtown Crommelin in 1863. It appears they travelled with a niece, Isabella Kelly. Yes, this most senior David Kelly died 28 April 1890. At that time, son Robert was leasing a 20 acre farm, and son John and family, who were apparently looking after his ailing father, inherited the lease of that 10 acre farm. Our John Kelly family left for the USA in 1892. In the 1901 Census, the House 63 Kellys are Roman Catholic Kellys. House 51 has our remaining members of the Robert Kelly family. At that time, Robert's son David, my Grandfather, was serving an apprenticeship towards certification as a Master Blacksmith, but we do not know where. Grandfather David reappears from Fifeshire, Scotland to Newtown Crommelin in 1907 to marry Elizabeth Kennedy, and move back to Scotland until 1911 when they settle in Craigywarren for the next 6 years.
Perhaps the current best key for information on "Mrs. Kelly" lies through Mary Kelly, wife of John Stuart, who is reported living with her mother, somewhere in Skerry, at the time of the birth of her third child in 1871. The reply #12 from Mr. Hume suggests he had such information, and I hope some contact can be established.
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Oops....I did not "preview" my last entries. My search is for Maria (Kelly) Stuart/Stewart, not Mary Kelly. This Maria would have to be born in 1847 or earlier to have been accepted as a transfer by certification in the NPC in 1863. Her mother "Mrs. Kelly" would have been in the order of 60 years old in 1871 when Maria "resided" with her.
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Your John and 'Mrs Kelly' were in Skerry East at some stage then, if I am reading your reply correctly. If so, are you certain the same John Kelly and family actually left in 1892 (other than mention of them preparing to do so in the letter sent to them before their intended departure)? I only ask, as I have in the past, and in a nearby area as it happens, come across a family group intending to emigrate, their farm being up for sale in the newspaper for this purpose, but who didn't go. Also, unless I have missed it (and I may well have), in the Valuation Revision books, I am not seeing any John Kelly in Skerry East being replaced by someone in the period from 1892 to 1901 (which I would have expected to see if someone had sold up and emigrated). Neither am I seeing 'two' John Kelly's there at the same time in the 20 years leading up to 1901.
Also, again in nearby area, I have come across families where different members seem to follow different religions (usually one changing for/after marriage). In the timescale, 'mixed marriages' were not as uncommon in the area as some might think.
Do you know for certain your 'Mrs Kelly' was c60yrs in 1871?
Henry Hume hasn't been active on rootschat for a year or so. However, as long as he has not changed his email address since then, he would receive notification of someone posting a reply on this thread and will hopefully check same.
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Thank you for your interesting comments, ScotsMum. Actually, the descendants of John Kelly were trying to search for information on this David Kelly family through professional researchers, using the same organization that I was using to search for the same person. That John Kelly family said goodbye to family members at Coleraine train station, and left Derry/Londonderry on the ship Nestorian in 1892. We have specific original public documentation.
Research shows the arrival of the David Kelly family to Newtown Crommelin from Down in March 1863 to be the first documentation of the Kelly name in that area. Unfortunately, the two sons, Robert and John, were younger than 16 years of age in 1863, so they were not eligible or recorded as transferred members of the church. A Maria Kelly transferred with David and Mrs. Kelly. On the same date, an Isabella Kelly was transferred "after examination". After speculating that Isabella was a family member but not a daughter, my "new" cousins shared a letter written to "Cousin John and Mrs Kelly" from Hillsborough dated 29/3/92. The letter is signed as Isabella Pheniy, a last name that doesn't seem to exist in all of Irish records. The letter refers to John's children by name/nickname with appropriate age-related comments. It expresses the sorry that they were going away and would probably never meet again. It also says she was "sorry to hear of your dear loving mother's death". Seeing as Isabella was familiar with John's youngest child who was under 1 year old, it suggests that John's mother died in 1891, one year after David Kelly's death.
I visited family members in Antrim this last May, and trod the same paths my ancestors probably used. All the above information was accumulated after I returned home. As our researchers have access to virtually all public records, we are hoping to link with someone who may have private communication records of the family.
Sincerely,
David A. Kelly
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OK, this further information makes things a bit clearer now. I believe you are saying the 'Mrs Kelly' of the 1892 letter was Mrs John Kelly not, as I had previously taken it to be, Mrs David Kelly.
Now knowing that Mrs David Kelly, she being the 'Mrs Kelly' whose name you wish to discover, was dead by the 1892, I've had a quick look at the Irish Civil Index. For the 1890 David Kelly death in Ballymena District, I can see he was born c1801. Assuming his wife's death was also registered in Ballymena, there are not too many possibilities on the indexes for the period 1890 to 1892 - with apparently only 6 Kelly females having died in the area then.
Of those, some can be ruled out due to their approx birth year. The remaining are a Sarah, born c1821 died 1891 and a Mary born c1822 died 1892. Have you had either of those deaths checked at all?
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Thank you again, Scotmum.
Those two names and dates would fit with other documented information. I tried to access the reference online as Irish Civil Index, but must have made incorrect search parameters, because no Sarah Kelly was discoverable. I'll try again for Mary Kelly. Mary was a popular name for family descendants!
I am waiting for the next report from my contract researcher, and hope his previous thoroughness will cover these names and dates. The letter from Isabella to cousin John & Mrs. Kelly 29/3/92 said "sorry to hear of your dear loving Mother's death", so those two dates fit between the 1890 death of David Kelly, and the departure of John & Martha to the U.S.
Sincerely,
David A. Kelly
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Sarah https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FTHY-LJC
Mary https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FTCX-F2N note that this death was recorded in the 1st Qtr of 1892.
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You have been most helpful, Scotmum!
Of the two individuals, my first guess would be Mary Kelly. The 1892 1st quarter death date is appropriate to have elicited the remark by Isabella "I was sorry to hear of your dear loving Mother's death" in her March 29th, 1892 letter. Also Mary was repeated many times in the family name sequence. Not so with Sarah.
Thank you,
David A. Kelly
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Hello from Downunder!
I am trying to trace the baptism of ARCHIBALD CAMPBELL born about 1826 in Donaghadee (according to the 1871 Glasgow census). He was the son of John Campbell and Mary Ann Murphy, and had an elder brother William born about 1824 presumably also in Donaghadee, and a younger sister Jane, also presumable born in Donaghadee although I don't have proof of that. They were a Methodist/Presbyterian family but could also have been baptised into Church of Ireland.
Is there anyone who could please, please see if they can find Archibald for me? I have tried all the Irish sites with no luck and would really like to try and find him. Archibald's father John MAY have been married to an Elizabeth ? first as I have found a record of a William Campbell being born to a John Campbell and Elizabeth ? in Donaghadee in 1824, Church of Ireland. It just seems to be too much of a co-incidence not to be right, but..........??
Any help at all would be really appreciated
Regards,
Anne
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hi David a Kelly, that Pheniy is surely Phenix who are living in Hillsborough area see under Phoenix in http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/SURNAMES/P/PhPi.htm.
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Hello, everyone!
I am hoping someone can help me with a brick wall I've been stuck on for 20 years. My ancestor John Hunter (b. 1791), married Mary Huston (b. 1789) I believe in Donaghadee around 1810 or 1811, before leaving for the USA. Is there anyone who can point me toward records for that period, or who would be willing to do a lookup?
Any help is much appreciated. Thanks!
Arik
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Hi Arik, you are into the period covered by Church records and PRONI. My normal starting point is Ros Davies Co Down website, recently another record has gone online the Tithes
Apart from surviving census, the main substitute is Griffiths valuation about 1860, then on a much more limited scale the next earlier substitute is The Tithes Applotment records which in Donaghadee were taken in 1834.
Neither exact spelling of those names is to be found there, but there is a
Huston, Robt. Townland: Ballyraer Year: 1834 http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/down/tithe-applotment-books/donaghadee-parish.php#.VTCo0UuDoYU
Now back to Ros Davies website which you may know all about, nevertheless in case you don’t and I defineitely don’t know what she is offering here goes http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies
Map section of the townlands of Donaghadee led me to see the nearest spelling is Ballyrawer, which in turn led me to her Placenames database, which gives
Ballyraer Donaghadee . alternate spelling for Ballyrawer townland in 1659 census PNNI V2 p 186
Ballyrare Donaghadee . alternate spelling for Ballyrawer townland in 1833
V17 p 124 OSM; PNNI V2 p 186
So next I looked to see If Robert or his descenfants still lived there in Griffiths time see http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/
There is lady Mary I Blakiston Houston living in Ballyhaskin 1863
However there are now 3 Hunters living in Donaghadee
Mary Hunter at ballymacruise in Millisle village
William in Donaghadee townparks, and in the High St Donaghadee, either the same person or two fifferent people.
Going back to Ros davies Co Down website for Hunter and then looking down for the parish column for ‘donaghadee’ starts with
HUNTER family Donaghadee came over from Scotland with Hugh Montgomery in 1603 as tradesmen to help build the port & town HN
HUNTER . Donaghadee a brewer for Mr Tomb; on a list of suspected rebels during United Irishmen Rebellion of 1798 MOA p256 {If this Hunter is yours, that’s a possible reason to emigrate as the trials and executions are stll going in the first decade of the 1800’s
Theres about 6 more entries and keep an eye on Ballywalter whitechurch Hunters
Switching to Houston or Huston in Ros davies where she files them together under Houston
Miss Abigal HUSTON Donaghadee wife of George Burrowes;mother of Marey & Sera; died 16 Aug 1792 aged 36; buried Donaghadee graveyard MIs Now that doesn’t turn up as a well known townland in Donaghadee
If the family wrote back after emigration there may be material in http://www.dippam.ac.uk/ied/
PRONI is too big for me to tackle for you but I use their e-catalogue online often
Other underused sources include family history manuscripts eg at the Linenhall Libarary in the Blackwood Collection are volumes for
HUNTER 2p96N Dunmurry, 16p3?4, 27N {not relevant its near west Belfast}
HUSTON 33, 52 Ballynagross {not relevant its near Downpatrick}
Nevertheless as you been brickwalled to rule out the volumes 16,27,and 33 might be worth clearing
I suggest you write to them asking them for photocopying estimates only if they think your knowledge relevant and be prepared to pay the extra for post and packing if you are tempted. “The Library welcomes all research enquiries, whether made in person, by phone, fax, letter or e-mail. Enquiries from members will be answered free of charge. Visitors from afar, and in particular those engaged in serious research projects, are recommended to make prior contact with the Library to ensure that they receive the best possible service. More complex enquiries should be made by letter, fax, or e-mail. Enquiries of this kind from within the British Isles will normally be answered free of charge, apart from any copying and postage charges. A minimum charge of £2 will normally be made in respect of overseas enquiries. A4 photocopies b&w are 20p. The Library may be able to assist those with more extensive research requirements on terms subject to negotiation with the Librarian. Contact the Library for further information on info@linenhall.com or Telephone 028 9032 1707. Their address is The Linen Hall Library,17 Donegall Square North, Belfast BT15GB, Northern Ireland, see their website for contact details or use Email:info@linenhall.com. My information might well be out of date.
Which brings me back to church records Ros Davies is better than PRONI’s online guide to church records as she gives further locations sometimes
Wishing you luck , I am a Belfast exile, and travel is probably beyond me, but I would still love a weeks holiday in the summer in Donaghadee anytime
JimG
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Wow, Jim, what a wealth of resources! Thanks so much, there is so much here it will take me months to get through all of your suggestions. I really appreciate it!
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Anne, have you seen the john Campbell
Campbell, John Townland: Ballyfrenis Year: 1834
Campbell, John Townland: Ballyhaskin Year: 1834
Campbell, John Townland: Ballymacruise Year: 1834
Campbell, John, Jr. Townland: Ballyhaskin Year: 1834
Campbell, John, Sr. Townland: Ballyhaskin Year: 1834
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