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Title: Jamieson Bone, Belleville Ontario
Post by: KAMA on Wednesday 07 January 09 15:29 GMT (UK)
Hi,

having done a google search we have discovered that there is a road  called Jamieson Bone Rd in Belleville Ontario.  We belive this may be named after our ancestor who emigrated from Scotland.(although could just be coincidence)

Would love any information about his life in Canada and why he may have had a road named after him.

Thanks
Title: Re: Jamieson Bone, Belleville Ontario
Post by: KarenM on Wednesday 07 January 09 15:52 GMT (UK)
HI Kama,

I see Jamieson married Florence Graham in 1912 in Belleville.

Was he in any of the wars?  Alot of the roads are named after veteran's in Ontario.

Karen
Title: Re: Jamieson Bone, Belleville Ontario
Post by: KarenM on Wednesday 07 January 09 16:56 GMT (UK)
You could email the City of Belleville who may have information.

http://www.city.belleville.on.ca/portal/bv

Karen
Title: Re: Jamieson Bone, Belleville Ontario
Post by: KarenM on Wednesday 07 January 09 17:05 GMT (UK)
Found this for Jamieson's son-in-law

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Merritt

Karen
Title: Re: Jamieson Bone, Belleville Ontario
Post by: KarenM on Wednesday 07 January 09 17:14 GMT (UK)
Aha!!  He was the Mayor of Belleville  :)

Jamieson Bone 1934-1935

An insurance broker, he served as alderman in 1919 and 1920 and later became Mayor of Belleville in 1938 and 1939

He was active in the Ontario Property Owner's Association. He served as Rotary President from 1934-1935.

Aside from this, he is remembered by the street in Belleville's Industrial Park.


Karen
Title: Re: Jamieson Bone, Belleville Ontario
Post by: KAMA on Wednesday 07 January 09 18:01 GMT (UK)
Thanks Karen, This explains the name of the road. :)
Title: Re: Jamieson Bone, Belleville Ontario
Post by: chinakay on Thursday 08 January 09 04:23 GMT (UK)
Any of your Bone family end up in Montreal?

Cheers,
China
Title: Re: Jamieson Bone, Belleville Ontario
Post by: J.J. on Friday 09 January 09 18:53 GMT (UK)
and , just in case mother was was also a rellie:
Name: Jamieson Bone Black
Death date: July 27, 1924, St. Catharines, Lincoln, Ontario
Age at death: 78 years 4 months 19 days
Birth:  March 8, 1846, Scotland
Father:John Black
Mother: Helen Bone
GSU 2022139
Digital GS: 4171766
Image: 1189
Ref: 19961
http://search.labs.familysearch.org/

Canadian federal election, 1940: missed being elected in a tight race...occ: manufacturer
http://www.parl.gc.ca/information/about/process/house/hfer/hfer.asp?Language=E&Search=Cresdetail&Election=6556
Title: Re: Jamieson Bone, Belleville Ontario
Post by: J.J. on Friday 09 January 09 19:03 GMT (UK)
Sounds as though he owned a Company, and was not a union fan ( note quote  about strikers -  EEK :o )
( halfway down page,  & mentions him three times)
http://www.archive.org/stream/mar28hansard1951ontauoft/mar28hansard1951ontauoft_djvu.txt
 
May have been a steel manufacturing as the road named after him has several listings of steel Manuf. on the road to this day...one has a name that might still be his old operation...would need to be verified....
Bonisteel Custom Fabricating Welding at 260 Jamieson Bone Rd
Title: Re: Jamieson Bone, Belleville Ontario
Post by: J.J. on Friday 09 January 09 19:24 GMT (UK)
and you can ask for a copy of this page  in what I THINK may be  Bryant Genealogy,Notes Toward??
https://secure3.zenutech.com/~ogs/ogspi/160/e160b049.htm
BONE Jamieson 1887-1958 page 7
BONE Jamie Florence J. -1977 page 7
( an email address is with that entry...you just need to take out the space)

I cannot find him in 1911census...

here is someone who may know more!
http://awt.ancestry.ca/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=rickjnav&id=I21474&ti=5543
Title: Re: Jamieson Bone, Belleville Ontario
Post by: KarieK on Monday 12 January 09 17:27 GMT (UK)
Hi KAMA
Jamieson Bone Insurance Brokers operated until the mid 1980's under the owner Violet Colden who I believe took over from the family.  Sadly the company is no longer in existence in Belleville as Ms. Colden sold out to a larger firm in the '80's.
I live in Belleville and Jamieson Bone was our insurance agent for many years. Belleville pays homage to alot of past mayors and people who have made contributions to the city by naming parks and streets after them.
Regards, Karen
Title: Re: Jamieson Bone, Belleville Ontario
Post by: J.J. on Monday 12 January 09 18:46 GMT (UK)
Another connection of a daughter (?) to military:
Harold Evans "Whitey" Dahl was a military pilot who fought in the Spanish Civil War for the Republicans, was one of the first Eagle Squadron pilots in Britain before the USA entered WWII, trained Canadian pilots in Ontario, Canada, then flew commercially throughout South America and in Switzerland, usually fleeing law enforcement. In Canada, Whitey married Eleanor Jamieson Bone and had 3 children.  Looking at the page all three have Graham for middle names...I imagine they are living so won't print names on here...
http://www.dis-danmark.dk/forum/read.php?11,496002

More re: Kariek's entry:
http://www.newmaninsurance.ca/Insurance-Brokers-Belleville.php

perhaps the manufacturer by the same name/ 1940 federal election was a son, then?

Marriage of another daughter 1942  http://www.elginogs.ca/newsindexes/timesjournal/sttj1942janthrufeb.htm
A. C. Persons, son of William E. Persons to Fl____  Jamieson Bone, daughter of Jamieson Bone
Title: Re: Jamieson Bone, Belleville Ontario
Post by: KarieK on Monday 12 January 09 19:08 GMT (UK)
Hi Again
I spoke with my husband about Jamieson Bone as he was born and raised in Belleville.  On old Hwy 2 west on the Bay of Quinte Jamieson Bone had a cottage on the bay, used only in the summer.  Across the road was the Graham estate, a huge mansion with 100 acres, the Grahams were quite a prominent family of the area in the early part of the century.  One of the Graham children married a Dahl, their daughter is a widely known author in Canada.  Vi Colden was related to the Jamieson's in some fashion and she inherited the cottage from the Jamiesons on their deaths.  Vi was a spinster and the business and her properties were sold.
You could write to the Belleville Cemetary Company for more info on the family.
Karen
Title: Re: Jamieson Bone, Belleville Ontario
Post by: KarieK on Monday 02 February 09 14:46 GMT (UK)
Hi KAMA
This past weekend in the Belleville newspaper "The Intelligencer" was an article about two sisters last name of Cameron whose Grandmother was Eleanor Bone daughter of Jamieson.  There is a picture of the two girls and they are screenwriters, they have a television show currently on CBC that is based on the Jamieson/Graham families.  You should be able to access this article if you are interested.
Karen
Title: Re: Jamieson Bone, Belleville Ontario
Post by: J.J. on Monday 02 February 09 15:42 GMT (UK)
article here :† † ( sounds as though grandma Eleanor was a bit of a party gal )
http://www.intelligencer.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=1413585

and another interesting story of her husband Harold Evans "Whitey" Dahl
http://www.acesofww2.com/Canada/aces/dahl.htm
Title: Re: Jamieson Bone, Belleville Ontario
Post by: Stormcloud08 on Monday 04 October 10 05:22 BST (UK)
Jamieson Bone (b. 1887 01 27 Dalry, Scotland - d.1958 03 14 Belleville ON Canada) was my grandfather. His father owned a leather tanning factory near Dalry. He did not serve in any wars, because of a stomach ulcer - which was a big deal back in 1914 - and a young family; however several of his brothers did. He had 5 siblings: David, Herbert, Esther, Louis, and Stewart, although not necessarily in that order. I do know that Uncle David was the eldest, though. He and Uncle Louis ended up living in Vineland Station ON, near Niagara Falls. I believe Herbert and wife Agnes Bone, as well as Stewart, moved to England, while Esther stayed in Scotland.

Vi Colden was "Jimmy" Bone's secretary, not a relative, and she inherited the insurance business from him after he died. We were all very fond of her, but she would have been very elderly if she kept the business going until the 1980s. I assume she was a bit younger than my grandfather, but he was 71 when he died in 1958.

There were 3 daughters, all of whom married servicemen. Uncle Whitey and my dad were Americans who came to Canada to join up and flew with the RCAF. My other uncle was a Colonel in the Canadian Army, was taken prisoner during the Dieppe Raid and awarded the Victoria Cross for his efforts.

The cottage just east of Montrose, which someone mentioned was built on land previously owned by my great grandfather, R.J. Graham. Originally it was a field, but my grandparents planted a lot of different trees on it, put up birdhouses to attract a variety of birds, and also grew vegetables and flowers there. My mother was born at the cottage in August of 1921, shortly after it was built. We moved out to the cottage in June - before school was out - and closed it up after Thanksgiving, which we always celebrated there. When no-one in the family could continue to take care of it, the cottage was sold and turned into a year-round home. I recently heard that it was about to be torn down, and I'm glad I won't be there to see that day.

Title: Re: Jamieson Bone, Belleville Ontario
Post by: KarieK on Monday 04 October 10 19:25 BST (UK)
Hello
I wasn't sure if Vi was related or not but I have vivid recollections of going into the office shared with J.S. to pay our premiums and I believe it was 1983-84.
I was on Hwy 2 just last week and the cottage seems to be well maintained what I could see of it through the trees.
Karen
Title: Re: Jamieson Bone, Belleville Ontario
Post by: J.J. on Monday 04 October 10 19:46 BST (UK)
Welcome to rootschat Stormcloud08
The cottage sounds lovely...as with all old family homes, hopefully photos & memory are what keep it alive

KarieK's thought on the date of change re: building ownership was actually substantiated by this link to the new owners which was posted earlier. A jaunt to the records office would clear it up as well, if it still doesn't sound feasible.
http://www.newmaninsurance.ca/Insurance-Brokers-Belleville.php
Title: Re: Jamieson Bone, Belleville Ontario
Post by: Stormcloud08 on Monday 04 October 10 20:50 BST (UK)
Interesting about the Newman Insurance Co. buying the building from "Miss Colden", as we knew her. I was under the impression that the ownership had transferred to my grandmother on J. Bone's death and that it had been sold shortly after she died in 1984. Between my mother's death in 1977 and my grandmother's, we used to get statements from Victoria & Grey Trust Co. detailing the rents charged to the various tenants. They didn't change between 1958 and 1977!! One dentist had had his office renovated and the floor strengthened to accept his equipment and the rent stayed the same at $25/mo. Someone else was paying $5/mo - probably fine in 1958.... I don't imagine my grandfather would have objected, though... if they had been tenants all along.

It was a beautiful building - possibly one of the original old Ontario stone ones. There was a fireplace in Granddaddy's office with a Phoenix in it. He represented Phoenix Insurance, and he probably got a chuckle out of placing the sculpture in the fireplace. He had a great sense of humour.

BTW, the cottage was designed so that it took advantage of all possible cross-drafts, since there was no air conditioning back in 1920. It was always comfortable in hot weather. Wouldn't it be great if more buildings were designed that way?
Title: Re: Jamieson Bone, Belleville Ontario
Post by: KarieK on Tuesday 05 October 10 19:20 BST (UK)
I don't think that Newman McCarten bought the building just the insurance business.  When the business was sold we opted to go with another broker rather than Newman and it was in 1989 that change took place.  I have been in the Jamieson Bone offices since that time and the new tenant has maintained the integrity of the office somewhat.
My husband's plumbing and heating business had the privilege of the maintenance of the water system at the cottage and the plumbing and heating systems at Montrose.  When the cottage was sold in the late eighties and renovated extensively the company installed the new plumbing and heating systems.  I believe that the home has been sold since again as has Montrose.
Coincidentally, my own paternal grandparents were born and raised in Dalry, Ayr and some descendents still reside there.
Karen
Title: Re: Jamieson Bone, Belleville Ontario
Post by: Skoosh on Tuesday 05 October 10 21:57 BST (UK)
Any relation to Muirhead Bone the artist? his nephew? Drummond Bone had a studio in Ayr, taught at Glasgow School of Art, I have one of his pic's.     Skoosh
Title: Re: Jamieson Bone, Belleville Ontario
Post by: Stormcloud08 on Wednesday 06 October 10 09:27 BST (UK)
What a small world, eh? When and why did your grandparents emigrate; where did they go? Have you ever been to Dalry? I have - one afternoon about 25 years ago. Lovely little town. When I got off the train from Glasgow, the station attendants asked me what I was doing there! LOL! When I told them, they wanted to know Grand-daddy's name, but they didn't recognise it. I wandered the main street - this was really a small village, I think - and just as Grand-daddy said, every other door led to a pub! I didn't dare go into any, thinking they would be filled with men and no women.... So eventually I left.

As for Muirhead and Drummond Bone, I sure wouldn't mind being related!! My grandfather was very musical, self taught on the piano and had a great signing voice, but no artistic talent. Still, I can't think of anyone else whose genes might have led to my Aunt NorNor (the party girl!) as well as my sister, being so artistic. You never know. I do wish I knew more about the Scottish side of the family.
Title: Re: Jamieson Bone, Belleville Ontario
Post by: KarieK on Wednesday 06 October 10 13:43 BST (UK)
My father and his brother were the only family that emigrated to Canada in 1947 where my father met my mother.  My father's family moved from Dalry to Glasgow in 1920 but some of the relations still live in Dalry, Kilwinning and Irvine area to this day.  I keep in touch with one cousin in Dalry a few times a year.  My father taught high school in Picton and I lived in Belleville...still do in a way just north of.
Family history is what we do on this site, tracing your Bone family should be quite easy.  I haven't run into any connection to my 10 or so Dalry families though.
Title: Re: Jamieson Bone, Belleville Ontario
Post by: J.J. on Wednesday 06 October 10 15:12 BST (UK)
you likely have all this, but...
there was one more listed under parents Thomas Bone & Catharine Thomson, Burgher Church, Dalry, Ayr.
David Bone b. Apr. 18, 1881
Robert Currie Thomson b. Aug. 19, 1882
Esther Manners b. Jan. 17, 1884
Herbert Tom b. Dec. 17, 1884
jamieson
Stewart Thomson b. Nov. 26, 1889
Louis Templeton Bone b. Oct. 15, 1891
The middle names will help in your search as well...looking at naming patterns

Thomas Bone b. 21 July, 1857 Dalry, Ayr. to David Bone & Jane Jamieson
Catherine Jane Thomson b. Sept. 21, 1854, baptized Parish of Corstorphine, Midlothian to Robert Thomson & Margaret Manners
https://beta.familysearch.org

David Bone died April 7 1898 aged 73 years - Jane (Jeanie) Jamieson died Feb. 2 1896 aged 67
Son David, and daughters, Margaret & 2 Catherine Holmes also buried with them... http://www.happyhaggis.co.uk/ayrshire-dalryold.htm
Batch Number: C115871- 9 children listed for them on IGI extr. (also births for other father's William & Robert)


David Bone married Jane Jamieson -Feb.20 1849 Beith, Ayr, Scotland ( on same batch file a Gilbert Bone married a Jane Kerr 1842...also 48 Jamieson listed)
Title: Re: Jamieson Bone, Belleville Ontario
Post by: J.J. on Wednesday 06 October 10 15:42 BST (UK)
With this new method of searching, it is not clear which are submissions...These are all extracted IGI
other births have father's name as Robert Currie Thomson
There is a marriage to Margaret Manners Dec. 31 1850 Dalry, Ayr
Her father is listed on the new site as Hugh Manners
Their first child Alexander John Thomson 1852, Catherine Jane 1854, Margaret Helen 1856, a son 1860, Elizabeth Manners 1861, Esther Burns 1864, Helen Thomson 1871,

same batch file # C116785 has 39 results for Thomson ( only one of which has a "P")

Robert Currie Thomson b. Sept. 6 1824 Corstorphine, Midlothian...parents: Alexander Thomson & Margaret Currie
Christening for a Margaret Manners - Sept. 28, 1828, Dalry, Ayr† father Hugh

Margaret Currie marriage to Alexander Thomson Feb 12 1821 Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh, Midlothian
same batch file # M119834 has 18 Currie / 127† Thomson / 2 Manners

Have found this page with more on same line, but you'll need to check on the validity of it all
http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.britisles.scotland.mln.general/547.576.577.581/mb.ashx
Title: Re: Jamieson Bone, Belleville Ontario
Post by: KarieK on Wednesday 06 October 10 19:02 BST (UK)
J.J.
I do have Jamiesons in my Stewart family line, I must check that out, thanks
Karen
Title: Re: Jamieson Bone, Belleville Ontario
Post by: KarieK on Friday 08 October 10 15:18 BST (UK)
StormCloud
You may want to have a look at the Ayrshire Roots site, they have the Ardrossan/Saltcoats Intimation index.  I checked it and has the marriage of Thomas to Catherine, some births of theirs, marriages and the death notices of both David and Jamieson. David married Jean Cunningham Wylie (another of my family names) 1906 in Dalry, he died Feb 1962 in Canada.
I also have a book called "Dalry Remembered" which is now out of print, its a pictorial of Dalry with many Dalry families and their businesses mentioned.  What was the name of Thomas's Tannery?
Karen
Title: Re: Jamieson Bone, Belleville Ontario
Post by: J.J. on Friday 08 October 10 16:46 BST (UK)
In this 1837 directory there is a David Bone - occ. Shoemaker, Dalry... http://www.ayr.org/history/1837Directory/dalry.htm. Over in the Burgh of NEWTON there is an Adam Bone, also a shoe/bootmaker, and a James who is a Grocer &merchant of spirits† † http://www.ayr.org/history/1837Directory/Ayr.htm
In the 1851 census dalry there is a David Bone c. 1793 Maybole - shoemaker, wife Agness , son Thomas c. 1824
also a William Bone c. 1828 -shoemaker with wife Margaret & daughter Agness on same Street
http://www.ayrshireroots.com/Genealogy/Records/Census/1851/1851%20census%20Dalry.htm
1851 Ayr has Adam age 62 b. Maybole† (Shoemaker Employing 4 Men† ) & family
and† Adam age 21 b. Ayr (Shoe Maker) & family
1851 census Monkton has William- widower age 70 b. Dalrymple (Shoemaker) & family
1851 census Beith - has David age 25 Currier born Dalry wife Jane, son David           
James age 21 b.Dalry ( Currier - lodging w/Barr family)† and† Robert age 18 b.Dalry ( Apprentice Currier lodging w/Bell family)

1841 has David age 48 Shoemaker / wife Agnes age 44   †Vennel St/Dalry
Adam 19 (journeyman shoe maker )
Thomas age† 18† † †"† † † † "† † "
William age 13 (Shopman)   
James age 11   † Robert age 8
Robert Kerr age 17 (Apprentice Shoemaker)
Jean Hunter age 14 ( Servant )
also Monkton & Prestwick has a William Bone age 56 - (Shoemaker)
and in Ayr an Adam age 50† (journeyman shoe maker)
and in Beith a David age 16 - (Currier Apprentice-† in Tyne Household)

Not sure if any of these tie in with yours...
http://www.ayrshireroots.com/Towns/Maybole/Maybole%201841%20Census%202.htm
1841 Maybole Eldest on page
Monkwood Office -† David Bone age 72 Farmer, Robert 30, Agness 32
Two Quinton Bones and 3 more Davids, etc.
But if they do there is more information here under "Bone" http://www.maybole.org/history/messagecentre.htm
Title: Re: Jamieson Bone, Belleville Ontario
Post by: J.J. on Monday 25 October 10 02:32 BST (UK)
Marriage of a daughter of Jamieson Bone in 1942 ( page 10 c4 )
http://www.elginogs.ca/Home/ancestor-indexes/newspapers/st-thomas-newspapers/sttj-1942-jan-feb

Title: Re: Jamieson Bone, Belleville Ontario
Post by: ALIBONE on Tuesday 30 November 10 17:58 GMT (UK)
Just joined the chat but have to contact all intrested in j Bone as i have with the help of Andrew traced his our family back to the early 18c I have visited Ontario and made contact with a relatif of one of the Bone first wave of imigration in the 1840s if i can help please ask.
William 1750 Dalrymple
David 1793 auchendrain
Robert 1832 Dalry
David 1856 Dalry
james 1886 Ayr
David 1915 Glasgow
me† † †1950 Suffolk uk
Title: Re: Jamieson Bone, Belleville Ontario
Post by: abe23 on Saturday 11 January 14 16:24 GMT (UK)
I just happened by chance to find this series of posts today.

Herbert Tom Bone, brother of Jamieson, was my grandfather. I was interested to read where the cottage was located, as I have a copy of a photo taken there of the Jamieson Family and my grandparents when they visited in 1954. My grandparents had moved to Dover, England in the 1930s.

I moved back to Scotland in the 1970s and have been researching the Bone family for over 20 years. I think that the posting from "Alibone" refers to me.

The tannery in Courthill Street, Dalry, Ayrshire was started by their grandfather David Bone (born in Dalry in May 1825). The business ran into financial problems at the beginning of the 20th century. David Bone started as an apprentice Currier in Beith before moving back to Dalry. His father was also David (born in Parish of Maybole in 1793) and went to work in Dalry as a shoemaker.

Please ask if you want any further information.
Title: Adam Bone
Post by: howe02 on Tuesday 24 September 19 00:43 BST (UK)
Adam Bone aged 12 years 1861 Scotland census born abt 1849 Ayr - St Quivox  living with Gabriel McJannet and Helen (Ellen) Wood McJannet (nee Lawson) and children - Wallace Street - listed as stepson - engine cleaner
Often wondered who this person is and how connected to either Lawson or McJannet family
Interestingly Helen's father's name is Adam Lawson
I have recorded this Adam Bone with the mother of Helen Wood Lawson and no father ..... Alison
Title: Adam Bone
Post by: howe02 on Tuesday 24 September 19 02:31 BST (UK)
just found Adam Lawson Bone born 25 Nov 1836 and bp 22 March 1837 St Quivox and Newton, Ayr
father William Bone    mother Helen Lawson
so 1861 census age is incorrect
there is a Sheriff Court Paternity Case by Helen Lawson, Ayr with defender William Bone, Woodhill, Enterkine, Tarbolton with child's DOB 25 Nov 1836 with year extract issued 1840 Ayr, Ayrshire with NRS reference SC6/7/4 p.148
and Adam L Bone appears again 1851 census at Russell Street, Newton, Ayr as a apprentice saddler living with Helen Wood McJanet and her twins Margaret H and William aged 3 yrs and her sister Agnes Lawson 
1881 census he is with Marion Bone 38 - perhaps his half-sister and a niece Jane W 19 at 81 Cathcart Street, Glasgow Gorbals, Lanarkshire
Title: Re: Jamieson Bone, Belleville Ontario
Post by: AndrewDahl on Monday 20 July 20 09:04 BST (UK)
Hey all,

Iím a descendant of the Bone family (currently sipping a nice whiskey from an heirloom JB glass).
Iím a simple 33 year old chef in Toronto, but have fascination in history, especially that of my family, hence me looking up my dadís grandfathers name late at night while drinking out of his glass. Most people here seem to know more about my family than I do, though would happily welcome questions or conversations about this rather interesting family that Iím very happily and proudly part of!

-Andrew Graham Dahl