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Title: House adverts 1933
Post by: Emjaybee on Friday 09 January 09 15:01 GMT (UK)
I have a book London and Suburbs with adverts for new housing being built in 1933. Maybe your family home is listed.

Here is a very small sample:

I will be happy to do look ups.
Title: Re: House adverts 1933
Post by: avm228 on Friday 09 January 09 15:07 GMT (UK)
My grandparents bought a new-build semi-detached house in Eden Way, Beckenham, Kent in 1933-4.  Any chance that development is referred to? (I don't know whether than might be too far out to count as a suburb...).

Just remembered, my great-grandparents also moved to Beckenham at around the same time - Links Way - though I don't know whether that was a new development.

Thanks in advance

Anna
Title: Re: House adverts 1933
Post by: Sylviaann on Friday 09 January 09 15:11 GMT (UK)
My grandparents bought a house in Orpington, well Petts Wood actually, about that time and they paid about £495 for it.  The last one to sell in the street in 2007 went for £415,000

Still wages have gone up a bit

Sylviaann
Title: Re: House adverts 1933
Post by: Emjaybee on Friday 09 January 09 15:17 GMT (UK)
 A sample page
Title: Re: House adverts 1933
Post by: Emjaybee on Friday 09 January 09 15:23 GMT (UK)
Orpington Garden Village
Title: Re: House adverts 1933
Post by: Emjaybee on Friday 09 January 09 15:31 GMT (UK)
Beckenham
Title: Re: House adverts 1933
Post by: nanny jan on Friday 09 January 09 15:40 GMT (UK)
Hi,

What a lovely offer; anything for the Hayes, Middlesex area? Or Ruislip?

Thanks,

Nanny Jan
Title: Re: House adverts 1933
Post by: Emjaybee on Friday 09 January 09 16:01 GMT (UK)
Ruislip 1 and 2
Title: Re: House adverts 1933
Post by: Emjaybee on Friday 09 January 09 16:07 GMT (UK)
hayes
Title: Re: House adverts 1933
Post by: Emjaybee on Friday 09 January 09 16:09 GMT (UK)
If anyone is interested please ask now - I'm sure the mods will remove this due to the space it is taking.

Still we can do e-mail if they do.
Title: Re: House adverts 1933
Post by: nanny jan on Friday 09 January 09 16:12 GMT (UK)

Oh............. Ruislip brings back lots of memories    :)  but sadly it's the wrong Hayes.  Mine's the one in Middlesex not Kent.


Thanks for looking,


Nanny Jan
Title: Re: House adverts 1933
Post by: avm228 on Friday 09 January 09 16:31 GMT (UK)
These are great - thanks for posting :)

Anna
Title: Re: House adverts 1933
Post by: Necromancer on Friday 09 January 09 16:36 GMT (UK)
Quote
I'm sure the mods will remove this due to the space it is taking.


pales in comparison with the stuff on the 'chat' threads and the photo-restore form.
Title: Re: House adverts 1933
Post by: Romilly on Saturday 13 February 10 17:12 GMT (UK)

Is there anything on the 'Cedars Estate' in Rickmansworth, Herts?

Cheers, Romilly.
Title: Re: House adverts 1933
Post by: Emjaybee on Saturday 13 February 10 19:11 GMT (UK)
Hi Romilly,

I will have look tomorrow (Sunday) and let you know

Mike
Title: Re: House adverts 1933
Post by: Romilly on Saturday 13 February 10 19:23 GMT (UK)
Hi Romilly,
I will have look tomorrow (Sunday) and let you know
Mike

Many Thanks Mike.

We live in a classic 'Metroland' house on said estate...(ours was built in 1926). I believe that there were five styles to choose from in the pattern book ;D.

When we first moved here several of our neighbours were still living in the houses originally built for their parents, - sadly they have since died.

Cheers, Romilly.
Title: Re: House adverts 1933
Post by: california dreamin on Saturday 13 February 10 20:01 GMT (UK)
I have a book London and Suburbs with adverts for new housing being built in 1933. Maybe your family home is listed.

Here is a very small sample:

I will be happy to do look ups.

Hi Emjaybee
My grandparents bought a new house in "Metroland" in Pinner Middlesex - (Lulworth Drive) might it be in your book? Thx for looking!
Title: Re: House adverts 1933
Post by: Emjaybee on Sunday 14 February 10 14:29 GMT (UK)
I have these two, they will give you an idea of prices.
Title: Re: House adverts 1933
Post by: california dreamin on Sunday 14 February 10 15:53 GMT (UK)
Thanks for that info!  Those are great bits of information  :)
Title: Re: House adverts 1933
Post by: Romilly on Tuesday 16 February 10 09:15 GMT (UK)

Many Thanks Mike, - that one is just around the corner to me!!

Cheers, Romilly.
Title: Re: House adverts 1933
Post by: Emjaybee on Tuesday 16 February 10 09:26 GMT (UK)
Perhaps they would like a copy?
Title: Re: House adverts 1933
Post by: Ulrich A Klug on Tuesday 22 June 10 14:21 BST (UK)
Super interesting -

But what is the difference between lease and freehold?

Ulrich
Title: Re: House adverts 1933
Post by: Emjaybee on Tuesday 22 June 10 15:39 BST (UK)
Leasehold is when you buy the right to live in the house for usually 99 yrs then ownership goes back to the person leasing it then another person buys a lease.

Freehold you own the house and land outright for ever.
Title: Re: House adverts 1933
Post by: mentmore on Tuesday 22 June 10 22:42 BST (UK)


Hi

Would there by anything for Ideal Homesteads built around 1935/36 in Wandle Road, Beddington, Nr. Croydon, Surrey, please.

Many thanks
Title: Re: House adverts 1933
Post by: Ulrich A Klug on Wednesday 23 June 10 07:28 BST (UK)
Ah, thank you Emjaybee.

But if one left the house that was leased before the 99 years, one could sell the lease to sone one else?  - The only time I have heard of such a 99 year lease in Denmark, where I live, was conserning some land that the city council of Copenhagen leased some land to a private estate building society that build some terraced and semidetached houses to let to their members.

Copyhold - would this mean that the copyholder paid party with work on the owner's land?

So in leasehold you actually own the house for the 99 year period? And you don't have to ask if you want to do alterations to the house? Or does one only own the right to live in the house?

Were deeds of freehold and laeseholds registered by the authorities? I am particulary interested in a house on 27 Blenheim Road, St. John's Wood, Marylebone, London, that my gr-grandparents moved into in 1897; it was said in the family that the house was a part of her dowery and that she owned the house. But later my gr-grandfather sold it without even telling her that he did.

Then they moved to 24 Abinger Road, Bedford Park, Fulham, that was in 1910 ca. I wonder what these houses cost at that time.

Ulrich
Title: Re: House adverts 1933
Post by: Emjaybee on Wednesday 23 June 10 09:52 BST (UK)
The lease was owned by the purchaser, but the owner of the leased property would still control what could be done to it.

Within the 99 yrs period the lessee could sell on the lease to a third party.

The houses detailed in the book are being sold for between £400 and £700, London would be more, as the year is 1897 and before the book was published I can only guess property must have been in the £400 area. A great deal of money in those days.

Copyholders lived on a small parcel of land and were there under an agreement with the Lord of the Manor, copyhold was passed down to the next generation.

MENTMORE:

I will find the book and post a reply later today.

Title: Re: House adverts 1933
Post by: Ulrich A Klug on Wednesday 23 June 10 11:55 BST (UK)
Thank you so much Emjaybee -

Very interesting.

Ulrich
Title: Re: House adverts 1933
Post by: maidmarianoops on Wednesday 23 June 10 12:07 BST (UK)
good idea

its just deciding which one to buy
sylvia
 dream on sylvia
Title: Re: House adverts 1933
Post by: Emjaybee on Thursday 24 June 10 20:45 BST (UK)
MENTMORE:

All I have is Waddon Court Estate (2 minutes from Wadddon station)
From £25 to secure, £835,  Freehold £60 on completion

Built by Harold G Palmer Waddon Court Road, Waddon, Croydon.
Title: Re: House adverts 1933
Post by: mentmore on Thursday 24 June 10 22:32 BST (UK)



Emjaybee

Thanks for looking.
Title: Re: House adverts 1933
Post by: confused73 on Monday 11 November 13 12:13 GMT (UK)
Hi, I was wondering if you have any details of houses in Ampton street,no 4. and 12. Thank you
Title: Re: House adverts 1933
Post by: dawnsh on Monday 11 November 13 13:00 GMT (UK)
Hi

What are you trying to establish?

Dawn
Title: Re: House adverts 1933
Post by: Emjaybee on Monday 11 November 13 13:07 GMT (UK)
Can you give me an area or the name of the estate, please.

Mike
Title: Re: House adverts 1933
Post by: confused73 on Monday 11 November 13 13:38 GMT (UK)
Hi, the full address is  St Pancras and it is no's3. 4,  6 and 12.  Ampton St. Islington, but one address has Holborn in the address. At. No 4 was William Morter Wheatley.  Who was my Gt grandfather. no 3 Albert Wheatley.  No 6 Ernest Edward Wheatley, and No 12 George T Wheatley. I was really wondering if they owned or just rented these houses.And no,  I am not looking for inheritance pay out. All shared out long ago.
Title: Re: House adverts 1933
Post by: Emjaybee on Monday 11 November 13 13:48 GMT (UK)
Ive checked the book, but it only lists new 1933 builds in area like Romford and Hatfield.

Sorry,

Mike

Ps look on Google Earth for Ampton St.  The original houses are lovely three story homes with first floor balconies, the other end has been redeveloped as flats.
Title: Re: House adverts 1933
Post by: confused73 on Monday 11 November 13 14:31 GMT (UK)
Thank you for looking for me Mike, yes they look very desirable if one was rich and wished to live in London. I think that I will stick with my rural cottage. Many thanks again. Siwan

Title: Re: House adverts 1933
Post by: Gibel on Sunday 13 September 20 14:57 BST (UK)
Back in the mid 1960s ( I was in my mid teens)  a neighbour gave me a page of newspaper dated 1933ish which had the advert for the houses which we had just moved to. It was for the Chalet Bungalows on the Marlborough Park Estate, Lamorbey, Sidcup Kent for sale for, I think, £395. It moved with me on a number of occasions but went missing some years ago. I seem to remember the houses were something like. I think it was bought in the 60s for possibly £5000. I think the newspaper was the News Chronicle.
Title: Re: House adverts 1933
Post by: ThrelfallYorky on Sunday 13 September 20 15:23 BST (UK)
In my family a really nice house was bought new in Southport for a massive £350 in 1930s.