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Title: ARMISTEAD Look ups - Please
Post by: williamscdr on Tuesday 13 January 09 13:20 GMT (UK)
Starting a new untouched thread looking for census. BMDs  and ancestors for:

Edward ARMISTEAD born Birkenhead 25 Mar 1902

Parents:

Reginald Walter Armistead died 1905 aged 32 thus b. 1873ish
Amy Louise (maiden name unknown)

in 1911 they were in 11 Durwent Drive Birkenhead

Thanks very much

David
Title: Re: ARMISTEAD Look ups - Please
Post by: Mum44 on Tuesday 13 January 09 13:31 GMT (UK)


Hello David   :)

Here's your starter   ;)

Reginald Walter Armistead married  Q4. 1896 Birkenhead  Vol. 8a.  Pg. 855
Amy Louisa Lloyd on the page.
Title: Re: ARMISTEAD Look ups - Please
Post by: Mum44 on Tuesday 13 January 09 13:40 GMT (UK)


Reginald Walter Armistead  birth reg. Q1. 1872  Wharfdale  Vol. 9a. Pg. 122

Amy Louisa Lloyd  birth reg. Q1. 1868 Birkenhead  Vol. 8a Pg. 470
Title: Re: ARMISTEAD Look ups - Please
Post by: Mum44 on Tuesday 13 January 09 13:46 GMT (UK)


1901
RG13.  P. 3402  Fol. 50  Pg. 27


11 Derwent Drive, Liscard, Cheshire

ARMISTEAD
Reginald W  Head  M  30  Marine Engineer & agent.  Own Account.  B.  Yorks, Burnley
Amy L  Wife  M  24 (!)      B.  Cheshire. Birkenhead
Reginald R  Son  2           B.  Cheshire, Liscard
Kathleen G  Dau  1          B.  Cheshire Liscard
Mary Lawley Serv.  S  27  General Serv. dom  B.  Cheshire  New Brighton


Title: Re: ARMISTEAD Look ups - Please
Post by: Mum44 on Tuesday 13 January 09 13:49 GMT (UK)


I think Amy should have put 34 on the 1901  :P  - perhaps she didn't want to appear older than Reginald ?

The one I have given is the only birth I can see for Amy Louisa Lloyd in the area  :-\
Title: Re: ARMISTEAD Look ups - Please
Post by: williamscdr on Tuesday 13 January 09 13:54 GMT (UK)
Nice start Mum - that's almost certainly a transcription error I would have thought, perhaps the 1891 will help

David
Title: Re: ARMISTEAD Look ups - Please
Post by: williamscdr on Tuesday 13 January 09 14:06 GMT (UK)
Reginald Armistead died Dec Q 1904 Birkenhead 8a 397 aged 32

This ties in with family memory
Title: Re: ARMISTEAD Look ups - Please
Post by: williamscdr on Tuesday 13 January 09 14:22 GMT (UK)
This appears to be 2 of Edwards siblings - I think there were 5 children:

1911 Census

INSTITUTION   ARMISTEAD   REGINALD   M   1899   12   Halifax   Yorkshire West Riding
INSTITUTION   ARMISTEAD   KATHLEEN   F   1900   11   Halifax   Yorkshire West Riding

(RG14PN26516 RD496 SD5 ED69 SN9999)
Institution name Crossley & Porter Orphan Home and School, Savile Park
Address SAVILE PARK HALIFAX County Yorkshire West Riding
District Halifax Subdistrict Halifax South
Enumeration District 69 Parish

Crossley and Porter Orphan Home and School, Skircoat, records

Reference CU 61
Covering dates 1868-1964
Held by West Yorkshire Archive Service, Calderdale

Title: Re: ARMISTEAD Look ups - Please
Post by: Mum44 on Tuesday 13 January 09 14:50 GMT (UK)

David  -  Amy Louisa:

I can see only one born about 1868 in the Birkenhead district.  She was the daughter of John Ellis Lloyd b. 1834 Whitford, Flint  and Eliza Bennet Gregg b. 1833 Nottingham.

John and Eliza were married Q3. 1855 West Derby Vol. 8b. Pg. 686.

There were 6 children.  You can find them on the 1881 Rg11.  p. 3586  Fol. 39  Pg. 14

This is the 1871, posted since it has a couple of "extras" like John's middle name and Eliza's mother   8)

1871
RG10.  P. 3750  Fol. 82  Pg. 42


43 Church Road. Tranmere

LLOYD
John Ellis  Head  M  37  Accountant  B.  Flint, Whitford
Eliza B  Wife  M  38                    B. Nottingham
Ellen E  Dau  14                         B.  Liverpool
Mary C  Dau  9                           B.  Cheshire Woodchurch
Edith M  Dau  4                          B.  Cheshire Bebington
Mary L  Dau  3                           B.   ~                ~
Ethel M  Dau  1                          B.     ~               ~
Ellen Gregg  Mother in law  Wid  58   B.  Derby

I know it says Mary L, and so does the image - but this just has to be Amy  ;D

I have the 1891 if you want it.  In 1891 John was the Auditor to the Corporation Burial Board   :o  :D
Title: Re: ARMISTEAD Look ups - Please
Post by: Mum44 on Tuesday 13 January 09 14:56 GMT (UK)


Additional children:

Well, I should think Amy Noelle registered Q1. 1905 Birkenhead Vol 8a. Pg. 528 is almost certainly one   :-\

Apart from Edward, the only other Armistead registered there in the time frame was also in Q1. 1905  Eileen, Vol. 8a. Pg. 529   :-\
Title: Re: ARMISTEAD Look ups - Please
Post by: williamscdr on Tuesday 13 January 09 15:14 GMT (UK)
Yes please to the 1891

I agree with you over the missing children, trying to work out how to post a picture of the orphanage

David
Title: Re: ARMISTEAD Look ups - Please
Post by: williamscdr on Tuesday 13 January 09 15:25 GMT (UK)
I know it says Mary L, and so does the image - but this just has to be Amy  ;D

I have the 1891 if you want it.  In 1891 John was the Auditor to the Corporation Burial Board   :o  :D

Yes I agree with you, based on the correlation between all siblings on the 1881, Mary L must be Amy


David
Title: Re: ARMISTEAD Look ups - Please
Post by: Mum44 on Tuesday 13 January 09 15:46 GMT (UK)


Reginld Walter was the youngest of 11 children.

His parents were Edward Armistead  b. 1823 Leeds, Yorkshire and
Sarah Ann Warton Harrison  b. 1828 Leeds.

They were married in Leeds Q1. 1846

This is the 1881:  RG11.  P. 4540  Fol. 56  Pg. 13

I have all the other censuses and will post details if required  :D

By 1891  Sarah Ann was a widow and had moved with 4 of the younger children, including Reginald, to Toxteth, Liverpool.
Title: Re: ARMISTEAD Look ups - Please
Post by: williamscdr on Tuesday 13 January 09 15:48 GMT (UK)
IGI

John Ellis Lloyd b. 14 Jul 1833 (Whitford, Flint) , parents Samuel and Mary
Title: Re: ARMISTEAD Look ups - Please
Post by: williamscdr on Tuesday 13 January 09 15:50 GMT (UK)


Reginld Walter was the youngest of 11 children.

His parents were Edward Armistead  b. 1823 Leeds, Yorkshire and
Sarah Ann Warton Harrison  b. 1828 Leeds.

They were married in Leeds Q1. 1846

This is the 1881:  RG11.  P. 4540  Fol. 56  Pg. 13

I have all the other censuses and will post details if required  :D

By 1891  Sarah Ann was a widow and had moved with 4 of the younger children, including Reginald, to Toxteth, Liverpool.

Yes please to all census' on both sides -  ;D you are a star!!  ;D
Title: Re: ARMISTEAD Look ups - Please
Post by: Mum44 on Tuesday 13 January 09 16:18 GMT (UK)


Lloyd first, then  ;)

1891
RG12,  P. 2890  Fol. 32  Pg. 26


24 Kingsland Terrace, Tranmere

LLOYD
John E  Head  M  57  Auditor to Corporation Burial Board B.  Whitford, Flint.
Eliza  Wife  M  58                                            B.  Derbys. Matlock (  ???  ::) )
Mary C  Dau  Un  29  Governess   B. Cheshire, Oxton
Edith  Dau  Un  24         ~             B.  Cheshire Tranmere
Amy L  Dau  Un  23        ~             B.     ~               ~
Ethel M  Dau  21                           B.    ~             ~
Reginald  Son  13  Scholar            B.      ~           ~
Mary  Mother  Wid  83  Retired Farmer  B.  Denbyshire, Abergele
Title: Re: ARMISTEAD Look ups - Please
Post by: Mum44 on Tuesday 13 January 09 16:41 GMT (UK)
Lloyds in Wales :

1841
HO107.  P. 1407/26  Fol. 6  Pg. 6


Sain, Whitford, Flint

LLOYD
Samuel  40
Mary  30
John  8
Sara  4
Thomas  2
Mary  10mth.

all except mother b. in county.

1851
HO107.  P. 2500  Fol. 27  Pg. 2


Siantrowen, Graig, Whitford

Lloyd
Samuel  Head  M  55  Farmer 124 acres B.  Flint Whitford
Mary  Wife  M  43                                   B. Denbys. Abergele
Margaret  Dau  16
Sarah A  Dau  14
Thomas  Son  12
Mary  Dau  10
Maria  Dau  8
Daniel  Son  6
William  Son  4

all children born Flint, Whitford
(One of the younger children's birth certs. would give you Mary's maiden name  :D )

In 1851 John Ellis Lloyd is living with a Jones family in Toxteth Park, Liverpool.  He is their cousin, and he is working as a clerk.
Title: Re: ARMISTEAD Look ups - Please
Post by: Mum44 on Tuesday 13 January 09 19:23 GMT (UK)


Armistead :  Edward says born 1823/4 Leeds on every census.

IGI  - submitted - so needs to be verified  -  bap 15 Sept 1822 Leeds.  Parents Joseph Armistead and Hannah Wilson.

The only Edward Armistead I can see on the 1841 census is age 17, living in Birkenhead, Cheshire;  no occupation shown and no other Armistead in the household.  Not born county.  Possible.

There is a Joseph Armistead who might be his father age 45, living in Leeds and has a 20 year old male named Wilson Armistead living with him  :-\ 

On purely circumstantial evidence only, this scenario seems to hang together, because this is the 1851:

1851
HO107.  P. 2321  Fol :  Pg. 1


St Georges Place, Leeds

ARMISTEAD
Edward  Head  M  28  Oil Merchant  B.  Yorkshire Leeds
Sarah A  Wife  M  24                        B.  Yorkshire Leeds
Hannah  Dau  3                                B.  Yorks, Leeds
Joseph  Son  1                                 B. America ?Cincinate? British Subject

So - two eldest children with the names Joseph and Hannah  :-\

Title: Re: ARMISTEAD Look ups - Please
Post by: Mum44 on Tuesday 13 January 09 21:06 GMT (UK)


1861
RG9. P. 3390  Fol. 87  Pg. 24


2 Hanover Place, Leeds

Edward is Clerk in Mustard Oil Company

Children on this census:  birth registrations found:
Hannah Sofia  Q1. 1847 Leeds
Kate  Q1. 1853  Leeds
Fanny  Q1. 1855 Leeds
Charlotte Blanche  Q4. 1856  Leeds
William  Q4. 1858  Leeds

Between 1861 and 1871 they seem to have moved about a bit. 
In 1871 they are back in Yorkshire :

1871
RG10.  P. 4300  Fol. 55 Pg. 21


Halfway House, Adel cum Eccup, Yorks

Edward is a Retired Brush Maker.

The children born between these censuses :

Florence Wilson  Q2. 1863  Kirkstall
Edward  Q4. 1865  Thirsk
Thomas Webster  Q3. 1867  Thirsk
Emily Gertrude  Q4. 1868  Salford

~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

In 1861 Joseph,  born 1850 in America,  was at boarding school in Harrogate, Strawberry Valley School.  I can't see him thereafter.


Title: Re: ARMISTEAD Look ups - Please
Post by: Mum44 on Tuesday 13 January 09 21:30 GMT (UK)


1891
RG12.  P. 2934  Fol. 77  Pg. 27


32 Wellesley Road, Toxteth Park, Liverpool

LLOYD
Sarah A  Head  Wid  64  Living on her own means  B.  Yorks Leeds
Thomas  Son  M  23  Mechanic engineer   B.  Sutton
Florence A  Dau  M  25                    B. Lancs, Liverpool
Emily G  Dau  Un  21                        B.  Manchester
Reginald W  Son  21  Engineer Apprentice  B.  Yorks, Leeds
Florence G  G/dau  11 months     B. Liverpool

I think Florence A is daughter-in-law :   Q4 1889  West Derby  Thomas Webster Armistead marriage:  Florence Annie Costigan on the same page.

Edward Armistead death reg.  Q4. 1889 Toxteth Park  Vol. 8b  Pg.164  aged 66

Sarah Ann Armistead death reg:  Q4. 1894 Toxteth Park Vol. 8b. Pg. 139  Age 67

Title: Re: ARMISTEAD Look ups - Please
Post by: Mum44 on Tuesday 13 January 09 21:39 GMT (UK)

There doesn't seem to be anything useful on the IGI  for Sarah Ann's bap. and there are half a dozen Sarah Ann Harrisons on the 1841 but none living in Leeds   :-\

The marriage certificate will be needed to take that line back   ;)
Title: Re: ARMISTEAD Look ups - Please
Post by: williamscdr on Wednesday 14 January 09 07:51 GMT (UK)

Mum, You've done a tremendous job thank you very much  ;D
Title: Re: ARMISTEAD Look ups - Please
Post by: cass2 on Tuesday 14 September 10 09:43 BST (UK)


Reginld Walter was the youngest of 11 children.

His parents were Edward Armistead  b. 1823 Leeds, Yorkshire and
Sarah Ann Warton Harrison  b. 1828 Leeds.

They were married in Leeds Q1. 1846

This is the 1881:  RG11.  P. 4540  Fol. 56  Pg. 13

I have all the other censuses and will post details if required  :D

By 1891  Sarah Ann was a widow and had moved with 4 of the younger children, including Reginald, to Toxteth, Liverpool.

Yes please to all census' on both sides -  ;D you are a star!!  ;D
Title: Re: ARMISTEAD Look ups - Please
Post by: cass2 on Wednesday 15 September 10 11:50 BST (UK)


Reginld Walter was the youngest of 11 children.

His parents were Edward Armistead  b. 1823 Leeds, Yorkshire and
Sarah Ann Warton Harrison  b. 1828 Leeds.

They were married in Leeds Q1. 1846

Sarah Ann's surname is in fact Webster not Warton Harrison.  I also made this mistake in the beginning.