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Title: 1841 & 1851 Census Look Up
Post by: anewt17 on Wednesday 14 January 09 16:43 GMT (UK)
Hi

Request look up for a George Boulton born about 1822 in Staffordshire. He later married a Mary ? who was born in 1824 ish.

Many thanks
Title: Re: 1841 & 1851 Census Look Up
Post by: Ecneps on Wednesday 14 January 09 16:51 GMT (UK)
Hi,

Is this the George, Brickworks manager, born Madeley (from 1861 census)? 

If this is the right George, then a relative may have been living next door in 1861, Hannah Boulton, is that right?

It helps to find them in earlier census if you give as much information as possible, birthplace, occupation, etc.

Barbara  :)
Title: Re: 1841 & 1851 Census Look Up
Post by: anewt17 on Wednesday 14 January 09 17:03 GMT (UK)
Hi

I found them in the 1861 Census born Madely (George).

They had the following family in 1861.... William 10, Hannah 7, Emily 6, Sarah 3,
Henry 4, Elizabeth 6 months.
 I don't think not sure really that it is the George brickworks manager in the 1881 Census!!!!!!
Title: Re: 1841 & 1851 Census Look Up
Post by: Ecneps on Wednesday 14 January 09 17:05 GMT (UK)
If that's the right George, in 1861 - he was a Brickworks manager on that census!

Here's the possible marriage registration:

Mar 1850  Wolstanton    17   313
BOULTON George     and on same page   DEAN Mary   

1851 census HO107/2001  Folio  443  Page  21
Leysett, Madeley.
George Boulton  head m 25  Engine Driver   b. Not known Staffs   
Mary Boulton    wife   m                             b. Keele Staffs
Wm Boulton       son      5 months                   b. Madeley  "
M Dean        lodger   m 23                         b. Keele      "
Ann Dean            "          10                          b. Newcastle Staffs
Samuel Dean    "         3 Mo                    b. Madeley


Barbara
Title: Re: 1841 & 1851 Census Look Up
Post by: Ecneps on Wednesday 14 January 09 17:12 GMT (UK)
Are you working backwards from a known relative, perhaps a son, with birth certificate to show both his parents' names, as there are a couple of George Boultons and it would be best to start from something definite

Barbara  :)
Title: Re: 1841 & 1851 Census Look Up
Post by: anewt17 on Wednesday 14 January 09 18:01 GMT (UK)
Barbara

Many thanks that must be him......Did you see anything in the 1841 ?

I think his mother was possible a Hannah b abt 1783 and a brother James b abt 1814.

Many thanks for all your help :)
Title: Re: 1841 & 1851 Census Look Up
Post by: Ecneps on Wednesday 14 January 09 19:29 GMT (UK)
As I said, there are a few in 1841, 6 actually, born between 1821-1827 bearing in mind that adult ages are usually rounded down to nearest 5 years in the 1841 census

There is this one with mother Hannah, but no brother James, he could have been away from home, but you'd need the marriage cert for George and Mary to be sure of his father's name and occupation

HO107/989/1 Folio 43 Page 6
Madeley, Staffordshire
BOULTON
Thos     40  Butcher
Hannah 40
George 15
William 15
Hannah 10
Henry 5
Thos 4
Edward 1
all born in Staffordshire
    edit - wrong family!

Barbara
Title: Re: 1841 & 1851 Census Look Up
Post by: anewt17 on Wednesday 14 January 09 19:49 GMT (UK)
Barbara

Many thanks for the look up I think Hannah was a bit older born about 1783..

 :)
Title: Re: 1841 & 1851 Census Look Up
Post by: Ecneps on Wednesday 14 January 09 20:14 GMT (UK)
Yes, well I did say there were a few Georges  :D

There's this Hannah in 1841, not sure if the Stubbs are related

1841 HO107/989/1 Folio 12  Page 17
Little Madeley, Madeley, Staffs
Hannah BOLTON  60
/
John STUBBS 40 Ag Lab
Ann      "        30             not b. in county
Mary    "        15
Samuel "       13
Elizabeth "     11
Sarah      "      9
Hannah    "      3
Eliza        "       1
Title: Re: 1841 & 1851 Census Look Up
Post by: Ecneps on Wednesday 14 January 09 20:28 GMT (UK)
Yes, that must be Hannah, here in 1851 gives Drayton as birthplace, same as in 1861

1851 HO107/2001 Folio  450 Page 2
Little Madeley
William Boulton  head m 67 Ag Lab   Madeley
Hanh Boulton    wife  m  67             Shropshire Drayton
Elizh Boulton    dau    s  23             Madeley
James Boulton    son   m  37 --- Lab      "
Ann Boulton dau in law m 30              Cheshire Audlem
Harriott Madeley grdau   6             Staffs  ----
Elizh Stubbs      "           16             Madeley
Wm Stubbs      " son     14                "
Ann Stubbs      " dau      7                "


Barbara  :)
Title: Re: 1841 & 1851 Census Look Up
Post by: anewt17 on Wednesday 14 January 09 20:54 GMT (UK)
Barbara

Many thanks for all your help this all fits in once again thank you..

 :)
Title: Re: 1841 & 1851 Census Look Up
Post by: Ecneps on Wednesday 14 January 09 22:18 GMT (UK)
Still haven't got the right George though, have we?
Title: Re: 1841 & 1851 Census Look Up
Post by: anewt17 on Thursday 15 January 09 16:57 GMT (UK)
Barbara

It looks like to me that this is the right George..Unless you know differant.

thanks
Title: Re: 1841 & 1851 Census Look Up
Post by: Ecneps on Thursday 15 January 09 17:03 GMT (UK)
Yes, but not in 1841/51, he wasn't at home with mother Hannah in either census  :-\
Title: Re: 1841 & 1851 Census Look Up
Post by: anewt17 on Thursday 15 January 09 17:17 GMT (UK)
Barbara

The 1861 Census that his him I will send for the marriage certificate.....

I took the date for Hannah Boulton from her age of 78 in the 1861 Census.

Do you think that the 2 families are now mixed up ?


Title: Re: 1841 & 1851 Census Look Up
Post by: Ecneps on Thursday 15 January 09 17:35 GMT (UK)
No, just gave you the wrong family (wrong Hannah & George) earlier although I didn't know it was wrong at the time, have now amended the post so that you don't get them mixed up!
Title: Re: 1841 & 1851 Census Look Up
Post by: anewt17 on Thursday 15 January 09 17:38 GMT (UK)
Barbara

Again many thanks for your help.   :)