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I keep a detailed database of all 30,000 Waterloo combatants and am happy to help for free with any enquiries regarding Waterloo soldiers.
Regards
Martin Aaron
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Hello Martin, You may be able to assist me with some info. I have a grandfather who enlisted in the 6th Inniskilling Dragoons in 1813 at the age of 14 yrs.
John Anderson born 1799 Chesham, Buckinghamshire. He was on the 1841 census with 6th Inniskillings.
Now I have his discharge papers in 1841 from the National Archives. He was discharged due to poor health. He must have re-enlisted or have been given the post of Barracks Sargeant in Ipswich with the 11th Hussars. He has the correct family with him, so this is no mistake.
Now on his discharge papers where it records service, there is a gap regarding where he was and what he did between 1813 and 1816 possibly 1817.
I have a John Anderson on the Medals list for Waterloo serving in the 6th Inniskillings as a private under Cpt. Madox. I have done some reading on Waterloo and believe that anyone who fought in the battle was give the title "Waterloo Man" and a record of two extra years service was added to their papers. My question is: How do I confirm/deny if my John Anderson is the John Anderson who fought at the Battle of Waterloo?? Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks - Sue, Australia
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He must have re-enlisted or have been given the post of Barracks Sargeant in Ipswich with the 11th Hussars. He has the correct family with him, so this is no mistake.
Hi Sue
Can you say when he was a Barrack Sergeant? There was a separate Barrack Department, so he was unconnected with the 11th Hussars. They were just in 'his' barracks at the time.
You are correct about the two years extra service granted to Waterloo men. If he had been an officer his entries in the Army List would have been preceded by a very ornate W.
Ken
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Hi Ken,
He was Barracks sargeant in Ipswich in 1851. I cant find a death anywhere for him. That was the last census he was on. I had a genealogist at the National Archives looking for him following 1851 but he couldnt find him after that census. I have a paper from Ipswich stating he was moved to some place that starts with a D but the guy from the National Archives couldnt make it out and neither can I. He made Sargeant so I dont think would be on the Officers lists. We couldnt find him in the main Army Hospitals either. He was discharged due to poor health, thoroughly worn out constitution due to Army Service. Also the chap looking through the Archives went through the Barrack Sargeant records, that is where he found the Ipswich paper.
I also do not know how to prove or disprove that he was at Waterloo. Would not showing the wording"Waterloo Man" mean that he wasnt there or could it have been an oversight?
Thank you for your help. Sue
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Se
findmypast have medal lists for Waterloo...I found my Great(something) Uncle there...a very nice medal it is too.
ALL men who served at Waterloo, including lower ranks, were issued with one
Sylvia
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Thank you Sylvia, yes I think I have found my g.g.g.grandfather on that Medal List but on his Army Discharge papers in 1841, it does not show that he fought at Waterloo. So I am trying to confirm
whether or not the John Anderson at Waterloo is my John Anderson.
Many thanks your thoughts and assistance. Sue
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Hello Sue
If I understand you correctly the service record for your John Anderson has a gap in it from 1813-1816. If this is right it simply means he wan't in the army for that period - he may have completed his first length of service in 1813, left the army then, a few years later, decided to reenlist.
The Private John Anderson in the 6th Inniskilling Dragoons at Waterloo served in No 4 Troop. He had enlisted in 1800 aged 18 so would have been around 33 at Waterloo.
Hope this helps
Regards
Martin Aaron
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Thank you so much Martin,
Was the 4th, Cpt. Madox's troup?
Sorry, I didnt make it clear. He is down as being in the 6th Inniskillings from 1813 to 1817 but doesnt say where he served. He did go to Ireland with the 6th a few times. My g.grandmother was born there in around 1841. Also his first son was born in Ireland in 1830 with other children being born in different parts of England. The Inniskillings were located in the area of each birth. His record shows that he never left the Inniskillings.
On the discharge papers where it states "Served" it states 24 yrs and 70 days served at home(I initially did think this said "horse") So take this 24 yrs 70 days away from 1813-1841, it leaves a gap in where he was during the early years. It does not state if he served anywhere else. I guess "home"could include Ireland.
On reading through again, the discharge papers state that he was 18 yrs a non-com officer and 14 years in the Riding School.
Would the John Anderson who joined up in 1800, still be a private at Waterloo?
Thank you so much for your assistance. - Sue
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You would be surprised as to what the Army classes as a home posting...Germany is so classed!
Don't forget that up until partitiion in 1922, ALL of Ireland was as much as part of Britain and the Union as Wales or Scotland!
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Hi Sue
I'm afraid we are talking of two different John Andersons - your chap was born in 1799 and the one at Waterloo would have been born around 1782. The Waterloo man's date of birth comes from the Supplementary Pay List tucked in the back of the WO12 muster book for 1815.
Yes, Troop 4 was Madox's Troop.
In this era most Privates stayed at that rank for their entire career (with perhaps stints as Corporal). To be a Serjeant you needed to be literate (which few men were).
If your John Anderson was in the 6th in 1815 aged 16 then it is likely he was not taken on campaign in view of his age, this was common practise.
There was also a James Anderson at Waterloo (enlisted 1811 aged 16) perhaps one or both of these men was related to your chap?
Anyway, sorry I can't bring better news. Its still amazing to find an ancestor in a Waterloo regiment in that period, just think of the characters he must have known and the experiences he must have had...
All the best
Martin
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Thank you Martin,
Yes, it is wonderful to find a relative back in those times. I would like to thank you for preventing me going through my search with the wrong person in mind.
I also have learnt a lot about the Battle of Waterloo and also what their life was like etc. so all good.
Many thanks and I will check out the James Anderson also.
- Sue
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Forget to thank you Scrimnett. All info helps me greatly. - Sue
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Here I am again Martin,
I am unable to find a birth for John Anderson, 1799 Chesham Bucks. Another gent on RootsChat thought he could have been an orphan. Perhaps one who followed a recruitment party. He actually attested in Tullamore, Ireland. He gave his trade as Cordwainer which I know is shoemaker.
So I am just asking your opinion on this next question with the thought that you obviously know a lot about the cavalry during Waterloo.
Now, John joined in 1813 aged 14 yrs. Would the cavalry in your opinion, have taught him to read and write? He has signed his papers and his marriage in 1825. It just sends me in a slightly different direction if he was able to read and write in 1813.
Many thanks for your opinion. = Sue
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Hi Sue
I think for a 14 year old boy to call himself a cordwainer is gilding the lily a bit. Cordwainers worked with expensive leathers and he could not have been an apprentice as he would not have been allowed to enlist.
Ken
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So am I right in thinking you have copies of the discharge papers of your man ?
These are available at http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/displaycataloguedetails.asp?CATID=-3877583&CATLN=7&Highlight=%2CJOHN%2CANDERSON%2C6TH&accessmethod=0
Enlisted 1813 - discharged 1841 aged 42.
If so, you can look at the last page of the document. If he has signed his name that's a pretty good sign he was at least semi-literate, the space for most men's signature in this era contains merely an "X".
If however, he remained a Private for those 28 years (again the WO97 document will list any change of rank) then that also means it likely he was illiterate (and thus not available for promotion). I've never heard of the rank "Barrack Serjeant", perhaps it came into existence after the Nap wars and thus outside my slender field of knowledge!
Just guesses but I hope they help.
All the best
Martin
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Thank you Ken ,
I can only go by his occupation as described on his discharge papers but another kind Rootschatter also gave the same opinion as you. Many thanks.
Many thanks to you also Martin. Yes he has signed his discharge papers and his marriage papers back in 1825. His discharge papers also show his promotions etc. I also have paperworks from the Nat.Arch listing Barracks in Great Brittain - 4th class. One of the headings is Barrack Masters and Barrack Sargeants. He seems to have been there from 1844 and then moved but I cant make our where to. So the search goes on.
Thanks again for all your assistance. - Sue
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Hello Martin
Do you have anything on Pte Michl McGURN, of Capt Charles Hawes Company, 32 Regiment of Foot?
Thank you
Jean
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Hi Jean
Not much I'm afraid - I have him listed as killed, or at least he is still listed as "missing since 19th June" (they mean since Waterloo) on the December 1815 muster.
Can I ask why you ask? Did he ever turn up?
Regards
Martin
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Hi Martin
Thanks for looking. I only found him on the FindMyPast muster roll with the info I gave you.
I had thought I had found an uncle for my g.g.g.grandfather Christopher McGurn b 1809, (who settled in Liverpool pre 1941) and would be able to supply a bit more info.
All the McGurns I have discovered around that period of time are related to each other.
Thanks again
Regards
Jean
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Hi Martin,
I wonder it you could possibly help me with this.
I have a Private George Mountain in the Royal Regiment of Horse Guards whose Attestation date was 10 Nov 1812 and he was age 18. He was born in Ruddington, Notts and apparently died in service and was discharged 13 Oct. 1824.
I got these details from the Household Cavalry Museum and they say he served in "F" Troop and although they have no firm evidence of Waterloo Service it would be most surprising if he did not.
I have been told there was a Waterloo Medal awarded to a Private George Mountain - Lt.Col. C.Hill's Troop, and wonder if you could confirm or disprove this could be our George Mountain.
Many thanks,
Suzy
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Hi Suzy
Yes I have Private George Mountain listed on my database in Hill's Troop (or "F" Troop). I don't have any other details so many thanks for your data - could I ask what you mean by died in service? If he was discharged from the army in 1824 does this mean he became a servant and died in service?
Regards
Martin
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Hi Martin
Thanks for your information. I'm glad to know that this is the correct George Mountain.
As to him being in service when he died, on the research form I had from the Household Cavalry Museum they said he was discharged 13 Oct 1824 at Regents Park Barracks. At the baptism of one of his children on the 24 October 1824 he was down as deceased, so I contacted the Museum again and the researcher said he died in service and that would have been his discharge date.
I guess a visit to the Records Office is the next step.
Once again, many thanks for your help.
Regards
Suzy
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Hi there,
I'm sure this is a very weak request (weak as in there must be millions of James Browns!) My 3rd Great-Grandfather, James Brown, came to New Zealand in 1848. In a book written at the time he is described as 'a Veteran of the Napoleonic Wars'. His date of birth seems to be fairly flexible. But I have since found that census dobs can be rounded up or down. He was born in 1792 in East Crofts, Abbey (Paisley), Renfrew, Scotland. According to the 1841 census notes I have this is his family:
Address: East Croft St, Paisley, Renfrewshire
James Brown, m, 49, hand loom weaver, Renfrewshire
Marrion ", f, 40, -, outside county
James ", m, 13, -, Renfrewshire
John ", m, 8, -, Renfrewshire
Robt Watt ", m, 6, -, Renfrewshire
David ", m, 1, -, Renfrewshire
Do you have any clues as to whether he was at Waterloo? Or where I should look for Napoleonic War Veterans? I am in New Zealand and fairly new at this!
:D
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If you search for james brown AND renfrewshire on the NA Catalogue - http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/search.asp?j=1 - you get a hit of the right age. The WO97 reference is a microfilm in Kew. You can order a printout at 40p a page plus postage. There will not be many pages as they have been heavily culled over the past 150-200 years. But you will get the basics, especially his regiment.
If you are any good with spreadsheets you can do a search of just james brown and download the results into a spreadsheet and check out a few alternatives. They may not have recorded his county of birth for example.
The dates given are when he served. You will have to google his regiment to see if they took part in Waterloo or the Peninsular War. If the latter he may have received a medal that was only authorised in 1847. You had to apply, and it was only available to survivors. He may have missed out as it would have taken at least 6 to 12 months from 1st of June 1847 when they were authorised to being issued.
The Waterloo Medal was issued soon after the victory. Any man there received two years service added to his pension ‘pot’. This will be recorded on his papers.
Ken
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WOW! and Blimey! :o
That is amazing! Thank you soooooooooooooooooooooooo much!
From over here it just seemed daunting! And not even knowing where to start was a little scary.
;D
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Hi again,
It says he 'Served in Rifle Brigade' - but you think the print out will have his actual Brigade? Cool! He served for quite some time, 1811-1829.
Thank you soooo much again for your help - this line of my family is a bit of a mystery.
:D
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The Rifle Brigade was an infantry regiment. Brigade in this case should not be confused with a brigade of infantry battalions. Army speak is designed to punish girls for playing with dolls rather than soldiers.
Ken
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Teeheehee™
I think you'll find that Barbie has a lovely 'Military ' Collection. ;)
So James was in the Infantry and in a group of guys who had guns - surely that would be everyone.... why isn't he just listed as Infantry then... or is that still the punishment/ boys secret handshake thing?
;D
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Ahhh....This is your problem....
Barbie is a colonial....As are their military affectations....This is why "soldier dolls" (as Blue Peter used to call them) can't speak proper English (Army type soldiers for the use of).
Young ladies would have better spent their time reading "Battle" "Warlord" "Victor" et al
;) ;D
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ahhhh I see the error of my ways ;)
pops to the library to check out "Warlord"
;D
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ahhhh I see the error of my ways ;)
pops to the library to check out "Warlord"
;D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warlord_(DC_Thomson)
;D ;D ;D
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Ah Ha!
Explained why the librarian looked at me like I was mad...
Warlord was a comic paper published weekly in the UK between 28.09.1974 and 27.09.1986. It was first published in 1974 by D.C. Thomson. The comic was dedicated to wartime adventures and was a popular success, leading IPC Magazines to create a competitor, Battle Picture Weekly, in 1975. Warlord included several stories per issue, initially centered around a character called Lord Peter Flint (Codename: Warlord), a World War II version of popular spy James Bond.
Thanks for that :P Looks like a fun filled comic ;)
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Oh it was...I still have an amount up in the attic!
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Hello Martin
I was interested in your reference to your Waterloo database and your comments about 6th Inniskilling Dragoons. My interest is in Fiennes Sanderson Miller, and I am keen to establish the orbat of the regiment and who commanded each troop. Are you able to help?
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Hi Edgehill
Yes I have all that - your man was 2nd in command and commanded the left squadron (Holbech and Douglas' Troops). He received 2 bayonet wounds while taking part in the Union charge and lost his horse.
Troop commanders were:
1 Holbech
2 Hadden
3 Brown
4 Madox
5 Douglas
6 Macky
Military stuff aside I have: Eldest son of the famous architect Sanderson Miller of Radway Grange, Kineton. Born 16th May 1783. Educated at Rugby. Married Georgina Story 1819 - one daughter, who died in 1909. Retired before 1824. Letters addressed " Radway, 1839". Died 1862 aged 79.
All the best
Martin
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Hi
Thanks for the info. FSM and Edward Holbech were close neighbours - I was at Farnborough Hall (Holbech house) yesterday! I believe it was FSM who ordered Holbech to take the prisoners to Brussels after the initial charge of the Union Brigade.
FSM's son Frederick won the VC at Inkerman. All three sons died in military service. As you say, Jane died in 1909.
Are you able to comminicate by email?
Alan
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Martin,
Do you have anything on a Joseph Rodgers born High Green, Sheffield 1891, according to his Grandsons obituary in the local paper it stated that his Grandfather had fought at Waterloo.
David
p.s. All my "Warlord" comics are still in my dads loft.
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Hi David
I keep a database of British Waterloo combatants which, whilst containing a fair bit of detail, unfortunately does not extend to great grandchildren in 1891!
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Sorry Martin, should say 1791 not 1891!
David
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I have just read your offer, but don't know whether I'm in the right area. One of my ancestors was a private, in the Regiment of Foot. This is all the info I have, he was born in 1791 in Scotland and his name is David Murdoch/k. I am assuming he was in an English regiment as I think he might have been based somewhere near Sleaford in Lincolnshire, as it was there he met his wife. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Hi Martin
I have a request but have very little info on the person who was my 4 x Grandfather.
He was William Herbert b 1795 Nottingham area and a publication about the Lace industry stated that he was in the Grenadier Guards at the Battle of Waterloo,he was also in the Battle for "Bergan-op-Zoom" which i believe is in Holland.
Any info would be greatly received.
Regards Bob,
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hi martin :)
do you have any info. on the following 2 brothers
david glen(n) baptised 11/10/1789 dunnichen angus parents james glen and
ann salmond - chelsea pensioner on 1851 , 1861 census , and death cert.
national archives has david glenn born dunnichen angus served royal horse
artillery - discharged age 24 - served 1809 to 1816
married ann donaldson 11/12/1819 dunnichen angus
died 23/11/1866 blair road letham angus age 77
james glen(n) born 18/06/1791 baptised 26/06/1791 dunnichen angus parents
james glen & ann salmond - noted as chelsea pensioner on death cert. only
national archives has james glenn born dunnichen angus served royal horse
artillery - discharged age 26 - served 1809 to 1818
married elizabeth cameron date ?(first child born 1826)
died 23/10/1876 vanes park brechin angus age 85
i may have been in touch with you about one of them before but after the last
computer crash no longer have the info.
however , after putting the info. back together again(on paper as well as disc
and memory stick ;) ) i spotted that the 2 brother might have served in the
same unit
once again - thank you for your time :)
ev
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Hello
I wondered if you had any information regarding my ancestor Samuel Sage he was born in 1789, Priddy, Somerset, England.
Samuel was assigned to the band and for ten years continued in the army and participated in several continental campaigns.
Sorry I do not have any more information.
Thank you for your time
summersage
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Hi Martin, I wondered if you could help me. My Great Great Great Great Grandfather, John Thorn (sometimes spelled Thorne) was a Chelsea out-pensioner living in Shipston-on-Stour (which was then in Worcestershire, now in Warwickshire) in later life. He was born in 1781 in Shipston-on-Stour and was married to Hannah Gibbs, also in Shipston-on-Stour, in 1801. He died in Shipston-on-Stour in 1869, aged 89. According to his death certificate he was a "Chelsea Pensioner" who served with the "1st Regiment of Foot." The 1851 Census confirms that he was a Chelsea Pensioner and that he formerly worked as a weaver. I understand that many of those in the British ranks serving under Wellington at Waterloo were weavers, which is why I thought I would give this a try. (I haven't been able to find anything else out about his service record or pension, so if anyone knows a good place to start I would be interested to know.) Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Dear Martin,
I have a possible Waterloo connection. My 4x great grandfather was in the 6th Inniskillings regiment in 1802 and was possibly still with them in 1810. I'm hoping he was still alive by 1815. I can't find his name on the Waterloo medal list and it's my understanding only survivors received one.
What I can definitely tell you is the following:
Marriage by licence at Dartmouth 1802 between Elizabeth PAYNE/PAIN(E) - dau of George PAYNE/PAIN(E) and Sarah DOTTIN - and Matthew HOGG of the Kingdom of Ireland 6th regiment of Dragoons.
The Regiment was stationed @ Exter at the time.
Their daugther Maria Ann(e) Dottin HOGG was born circa 1811 probably in Ireland as the regiment was in Ireland at the time - I have not been able to find her birth details so far. There is a possibility that Matthew HOGG used more than one first name.
Matthew's wife was back in Dartmouth in 1828 when she is buried - as far as I can tell - alone. HOGG is an unusual name for Dartmouth.
Maria is witness to 2 marriages in 1829. She then arrives in Australia in 1836 possibly as servant to Rev William M COWPER.
The marriage for Matthew HOGG and Maria's birth is the only concrete evidence for his existence around the time of Waterloo. As he seems to disappear, I was wondering if he was still in existence in 1815. I can't find any record of him going to US for the 1812 war - unless again he was using a different first name.
Thank you for any help/tips you can offer me,
Helen
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Hi Martin, I am a documentary maker in Sydney Australia and I am researching a documentary about links between Australia and Waterloo. I understand about 5,000 Peninsula and Waterloo veterans ended up in Van Diemen's Land as convicts after 1815 and I am trying to track some of their ancestors down (and, indeed, to identify some of them) Given your very large database, I wonder if you have any suggestions?
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Hi Martin,
I was wondering if you had a Shadrach (Shadrack) Purton in your database?
According to an archive newspaper article it states
"the late Mr Shadrach Purton was an old Waterloo soldier, and many were the thrilling stories “Quizz” has heard him relate of that great battle, as they walked through those fields to victory. At the time of that never to be forgotten battle, Shadrack Purton was a married soldier, and his good little wife tramped many weary miles with his regiment, carrying her first born, George, on her back".
Shadrach was my x3 great grandfather and was born in 1795 in Kent, England and I have been told he enlisted in the 52nd Oxfordshire Light Infantry Regiment ( but I have not confirmed this).
He immigrated to Tasmania, Australia on 26th December 1831,
regards Janine
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Hi Janine
Martin hasn't been on since May.
I can tell you that he is listed as Private Shadrack Purton and served in Captain John Shiddin's company at Waterloo - in the 52nd Foot.
According to the NA Catalogue his record is on microfilm in Kew - http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/displaycataloguedetails.asp?CATID=-3965283&CATLN=7&Highlight=%2CPURTON&accessmethod=0
This should also mean they are on Findmypast. They will only be a few pages and almost certainly will not tell you anymore about his family. If you are looking for his parents you should try a post on the Kent section.
Ken
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Hi Ken,
Thanks for your answer and the link to his records at the Archives. Just my luck I only recently signed up to Ancestry! I did have a quick look at Findmypast and he is listed as receiving the medal for Waterloo but I don't suppose it would give any extra info anyway.
regards Janine
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Hi Martin - I see you have records relating to Waterloo.
The event I'm looking for info on happened just after the battle, so you may not be able to help but in desperation I thought it worth a shot!!
I'm trying - with little success - to find out about the death of my 3x gr grandfather, Private William Norgate, who served in the 11th Light Dragoons. I've managed to find out quite a bit about him - he enrolled at Eastbourne on the 24th Mar 1804, into Captain John Sleigh's troop. Skipping a few years - the troop embarked for France in Dec 1812. His name is mentioned on the Waterloo roll of honour.
What I'm REALLY looking for is how & why he died - apparently he was murdered at Houcqueliers, Northern France on the 24th Aug 1818, when the regiment were stationed at Clarques (according to the muster rolls)
I would imagine, if he was murdered by a fellow soldier, there would be records of a courts martial. Even if it was by a French civilian, there would presumably have been a court case if the murderer was found.
Any info at all that you could offer would be of interest to me - especially his dob. According to his enlistment info, he was born at Hinton Ampner, Hampshire, but on a lot of the trees on Genes Reunited, he was born at Ropley. There is also a lot of confusion as to his dob - some have him born 1790, others 1795. I believe it was earlier than that, as he would have been far too young to have enlisted in 1804! I'm guessing at some around 1780-85, but so far have found no record of his birth.
Fingers crossed (but not holding my breath!!) that you may have even a tiny bit of info that may help!!
Thanks for reading,
Kath Magson
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Hello Martin
My gg Grandfather, Justus Rutherford is purported to have fought at the Battle of Waterloo. He was born in County Leitrim, Ireland about 1778. I believe he may have been an officer and was given land in Canada after discharge. Do you have any info about him in your Waterloo database?
Many thanks
Jack
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I keep a detailed database of all 30,000 Waterloo combatants and am happy to help for free with any enquiries regarding Waterloo soldiers.
Regards
Martin Aaron
My great great grandfather was a convict transported to Australia on the Tottenham in 1818.
His "crime" was determined through a court-martial in Cambrai on 22/2/1817.
Are these records available for review?
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You need to post his name, and age, place of birth and regiment if you have it.
Ken
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I only have his "name" - John Robinson AND that he was a tailor/soldier from County Wexford.
He was 19 when court martialed (dob about 1798)
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Hi Flossy,
I know that this is off topic but I have recently begun researching John Robinson per "Tottenham" 1818. Please let me know if you would like to correspond.
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I'd be happy to converse privately on John Robinson
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Hi
I believe Robert Morris was at Waterloo as its mentioned on his record Born Chester 1779 if its possible to confirm this.
Cheers
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Hi Martin,
I have two relatives who fought at Waterloo and would be interested to know if you have any additional information on them.
The first is Jeremiah Wharam who I believe was baptised at High Hoyland (West Yorks) 1st Jan 1783. The medal role indicates that he was a Private in the 11th Regiment of Light Dragoons in Captain Bourchier's Troop and was entitled to extra pay due to his length of service. I believe he joined up on the 13th Sept 1801. I assume this means that he would have therefore also served in the Penninsular War. He was buried 26th June 1820 in Cawnpore, Bengal, India having died, I assume, from Cholera. George Farmer in his biography notes that the regiment lost 112 men plus women and children to Cholera in Cawnpore at that time.
The second is Richard Wharam (Jemimah's nephew) who I believe was baptised at High Hoyland 30th June 1793. According to the Roll he was a private in the 2nd Royal North British Dragoons (Royal Scots Greys) in Vernor's (Verner's) troop. The same troupe as the famous Sergeant Ewart. I assume he survived his military service as I can find a Richard Wharam of the right age living in nearby Barnsley in 1841.
Any additional material that you have on Jeremiah and Richard would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Ed
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Hi,
Im trying to find a David Graham on the 1815 waterloo roll. He was from Lineside ? Arthuret, cumberland.
Would appriciate anything that may help.
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Hi,
Im trying to find a David Graham on the 1815 waterloo roll. He was from Lineside ? Arthuret, cumberland.
Would appriciate anything that may help.
Can't immediately see anyone of that name on the roll. Where does your info come from?
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Hi.
I was just wondering if he sighned up or got called up, As I cant trace him after 1813.
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Hi Martin < My relative Major ?Captain Charles Jones 1783-1843 , 15th hussars and ADC to the king of Hanover fought at Waterloo.
He went on to kill himself >>>> accidentally ??? ::) ... with a firearm he was cleaning. In his obituary it says he went back to the battlefield to retrieve said gun . Have you heard this story at all in your research . ?
I have not found any info on his early life or who he was married to at the time . It has been mention his friend was a Captain Grimes but i am afraid i know nothing of him ,
I am thinking out of the square and hoping to find the Grimes connection.
I am happy with any info you may have to point me in right direction . TY> Fred,
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Hi Fred
I'm afraid there was no Captain Charles Jones or Grimes in the 15th Hussars at Waterloo. Not sure where you got that from.
All the best
Martin
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@ Fred, Until Victoria, the king of Hanover was the British monarch!
Skoosh.
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Hi I wasn't sure about Grimes being at Waterloo . i now believe is Lt. Robrt Grimes definately in the Peninsula War
... Captain Major Charles Jones was a brigade Major the 15th Cavalary with Coloquon .orfor possibly a dutch contingent . i will look it up again . He went on to become the ADC for Ernest Duke of Cumberland .Ernest Augustus, King of Hanover - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_Augustus,_King_of_Hanover
Ernest Augustus was King of Hanover from 20 June 1837 until his death. He was the fifth son ... In 1799, he was created Duke of Cumberland and Teviotdale.
Fred .
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Hi Martin, wondered if there was a record of my husband's 3xgreat grandfather Samuel Fo(o)rd being at Waterloo. He was baptised 11 Oct 1789 at Ringmer in Sussex and a tree on Ancestry suggests he was at Waterloo but I haven't found any confirmation of this.
He married in Ringmer in 1808 and was back there for the 1841 census. Although I don't have any detail for the intervening years he does have children baptised in Ringmer in 1809/1812/1814/1816/1819/1821/1823/1826/1829/1832 which doesn't seem to leave much time for him to have been out of the country fighting.
Regards, Pheno
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Hi Pheno
I cannot find a Sam Ford/Foord in the British army at Waterloo.
All the best
Martin
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Well I'll be blowed. As you were sending that response Martin, Ancestry came up with the muster rolls for Lieutenant Colonel Millers Company 3rd Battalion First Regiment Foot Guards who served in the Battle of Waterloo and there was Samual Foord with the annotation Windsor and then killed in action 10 June.
They also have a Sam Foord in the Muster pay lists for 1814/15 and 1815/16 which gives his date of enlistment into the Grenadier Guards as 4 April 1814. However there is a note against the latter entry which says died 4 September 181? - the latter number has been omitted from the scan.
So two Sam Foords but neither of them mine as he was back in Ringmer in 1841.
Thanks very much for looking though.
Pheno
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I suspect, from what you have written that, if correct, he may have died at Windsor in England of natural causes on 10th June. That seems to be the most likely explanation of an annotation saying "Windsor" (i.e. that he wasn't present with the battalion in Flanders).
The battle was fought between 16th and 18th June, so 10th June means he did not die in combat.
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Thanks Martin. Almost all the other entries in the Colonel Miller muster roll have Cambray alongside them which I gather was the Duke of Wellington's HQ so I assume that you are correct in surmising that Samual Foord didn't make it beyond Windsor.
Regards, Pheno
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Hi Martin. I am searching for a John Augustus Reid who was supposed to have been born in Dublin and served in Captain Reeves Company the 54th on Foot. However I am getting totally confused with the number of John Reids and and also whether or not Captain Reeves Company is the same 54th on Foot as the West Norfolk one. The John Augustus Reid I am chasing retired as a captain and supposedly died in Glasgow in 1853. He may have been a Lieutenant and but the only Lieutenant John Reid I can find in the Waterloo Roll of Honour is the one in the West Norfolk lot. I would really appreciate some advice.
Thanks
Marie
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I live in forlorn hope of finding a Waterloo veteran in my family. My gggrandfather 1792 to 1857 would have had to face the ballot about 1808. I know nothing about him until he married in Newland, Glos. 1825. There is a man, same name from Dixton-Newton who joined the Monmouthshire Militia in 1809, transferred to the 56th Regiment in 1813. Have to check whether the 56th was at Waterloo (wasn't).
Still, an elder brother 1785 to 1848 joined the 90th Perthshire Volunteers (Light Infantry) and went to the West Indies in 1805. Took part in the capture of Martinique and Guadeloupe from the French. This is after Villeneuve sailed to the West Indies to draw Nelson away from the Channel (Where was the Channel Fleet and the North Sea Fleet?). He was in Canada during the war of 1812 against the U.S. Discharged due to ill health 1818.
This para from a genealogist employed by a cousin to take my researches back further. Only less than a generation due to date PR's commenced.
Added: 3rd Battalion, formed 1813 was in Holland in 1814 but not at Waterloo. Possibly part of the blocking force at Hal (10,000 men), in case we needed to do a runner if Boney got lucky.
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I keep a detailed database of all 30,000 Waterloo combatants and am happy to help for free with any enquiries regarding Waterloo soldiers.
Regards
Martin Aaron
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Hello Martin,
Hoping perhaps you may be able to shed some light on my ancestor Mervin Foster/Forster Esq. who was in the 33rd reg’t of foot (Wellingtons old reg’t)
On the 7Dec1812 Mervins brother Malcolm set up an indented lease of conveyance for Mervin, his heir and offsprings granting him the lands of Dernabackey etc in Co.Fermanagh, Ireland.
However, on the 27Jan1816 there was a reconveyance of the lands of Dernabackey back to Malcolm (no mention of Mervin).
Therefore, I assumed he may possibly have died at the battle of Waterloo.
I would be really grateful if you could check if he is mentioned on your Waterloo database.
Regards,
John Forster