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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Kerry => Topic started by: Berni on Saturday 17 January 09 22:31 GMT (UK)
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mary catherine o'shea/shea
was born 9th feb 1885 in caherciveen kerry. parents were
michael b o'shea and margaret nee o'reilly
family occupation tailors. they lived on high, street caherciveen,kerry
there is a possibility she may have been called kate
this is one of 6 siblings of my grgrandfather, 3 of which emigrated to US
i know this is a very common name in kerry but, does anyone
have any research ideas?
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Hi Berni,
My father was born in Cahirciveen, his 90 year old twin sister is still living there.
Michael B & Margaret married Apr-Jun 1883 Cahirciveen Volume 5 Page number 34
You can order their marriage cert which will give fathers names etc
www.groireland.ie
I notice you have a connection with the Commercial Cable Company in Waterville, I have a number of connections, my grandad was the doctor there.
Brendan
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hi brendan
thanks for the information you have provided
my great uncle john valentine o'shea worked for commercial cable company
in ireland, new york, canada and azores
i am in contact with a descendant of his.
i am currently trying to trace all my grandfathers siblings and gather any information i can with regards to caherciveen
thanks again
berni
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Hi Berni,
My grand uncle Patrick Keating first worked in CCC Waterville and then Panama and the Azores. He married a Countess in Horta, Azores, his 95 year old son is alive and living in Oporto, Portugal.
Interesting website:
http://www.cial.org.uk/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
Brendan
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hi brendan
wow what a small world!!
there is a link between o'shea and keatings in US
margaret o'shea married patrick keating
margaret was my grandfathers sister
not sure if this is your family too
berni
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Hi Berni,
Where would Michael O'Shea have been living 1911, I cannot find him on High Street, my great grandfather lived in no 47 in the 1850's, I think at one stage it was called Top street.
Brendan
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hi brendan
we know michael died before 1911
as far as we are aware all the siblings had already left caherciveen
my grandfather was a merchant tailor and in 1917 he marries my grandmother
in granard co longford
the ones i have been able to trace of the siblings were in US by then
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Brendan,
Berni forwarded me the link to your post. Berni and I are descended from Michael B O'Shea. My great-grandfather John V. O'Shea was born in Caherciveen in 1887. He worked for the Commercial Cable Co. in Waterville, then Canso, New York, then Canso and then the Superintendant of the Commercial Cable Co. in Horta. I'd love to hear more about your connections to Horta since my grandmother is 95 and still alive to talk to.
I also notice that you mention a Keating connection. Is your last name Keating? One of our cousins is a Keating and her middle name and her father's first name are Brendan. She was told that it was a long running name in the Keating family with some significance.
I also understand that one of your ancestors wrote a book. Is it about Caherciveen or the Keatings?
Anything you can help do to help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Bob
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Hi Bob,
Thank you for contacting me, my father, grandfather, g grandfather and gg grandfather were all born in Cahirciveen.
My grandmother's brother Patrick Aloysius Keating was born in Cahirciveen 1879, he first worked for the CCC in Waterville, My grandmother's 3 sisters all, married men who worked in the CCC in Waterville, John Mason, William McKimmie, Jack Hewison, her brother Michael Joseph also worked there.
Patrick Aloysius first moved to Panama and then to Horta. He left the CCC and set up the Fiail trading company, he had a contract during the second world war supplying British ships with all their supplies.
He married the Countess Adélia De Azeredo in 1914 and had 4 children, his son Count Patrick is still alive and living in Oporto, Portugal, he is 95, his wife is also still alive.
I am an O'Donoghue, my grandmother was Keating, the book is about the Keating's of South Kerry, if you need a look up, let me know, John researched the South Kerry Keatings back to 990 AD.
The following gives a great history of the CCC:
http://www.cial.org.uk/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
Brendan is a Kerry name called after St. Brendan the Navigator
Brendan
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Brendan,
Thanks for your response. How can I get a copy of this book? Sounds like a great resource. Sounds like a terrific story about your family and the CCC. My grandmother was in Fayel from 1926 to 1950. My mother was actually born there. I'll have to ask my mother and grandmother if they remember your relative. If he was in Horta during that time I am sure they would know them. As I said my g-grandfather O'Shea ran CCC in the Azores and my g-uncle George Mackey ran the Western Union and ItalCable in the Azore as well. They did a lot of socializing.
As for the Keating book, do you know where I can get a copy? I am also connected to the O'Donoghues. My gg-grandfather Robert B. Mackey lived in Valentia and was married to Catherine Letitia O'Donoghue in 1868. Robert was also involved in the cable Business. He is listed as Robert B. Mackey Esq. in one of the old Directories of the day.
Any relation to Catherine. She died in 1892 after having 9 children?
Looking forward to hearing back from you.
Bob
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Hi Bob,
John Keating died last year, my kinsman Michael Keating (former Lord Mayor of Dublin) and Des Steele (Canada) inherited all John's research. Only problem they do not have copies of the book. You have to contact June Keating his cousin, she has copies, they are now like gold dust.
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F Chevalier was the superintendant in Patrick Keatings time
http://www.cial.org.uk/white/GMbook/gmbook.htm
He left in 1912, I have been in touch with a member of the Mackay family in the US, I think there is still a Mackay living on Valentia, I was there in January. I do not think I am related to any O'Donoghues who lived on Valentia, my grand uncle Fr. Michael O'Donoghue was the PP in Knightstown for a number of years, there is a stained glass window in the church dedicated to him.
My first cousin Brian McCarthy of FEXCO, Killorglin now more or less runs Western Union worldwide. You can Google him.
Jimmy Hewison my fathers first cousin is still alive aged 90, his father Jack worked in CCC Waterville, Jimmy contributes to the CCC website, I am sure John Creland who runs the site would love to talk to you.
Brendan
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hi brendan
patrick joseph keating was born 1886
he had a brother named jeremiah who he went to stay with when he arrived in america 1907
their fathers name was maurice keating and he was a butcher by trade.
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Hi Berni,
Maurice the butcher was related to me, I have to work out how, I know he used to fatten sheep for the Cahirciveen market, and also that he used to supply meat to the workhouse in Bahaghs. From what I understand he was well respected and was a very charitable person.
Brendan
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Hi Berni,
Ws Jeremiah born about 1872?
Brendan
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hi brendan
i have sent a link of this thread to the grand daughter of patrick joseph keating
i'm afraid apart from what i posted today about the keating's i have no further information
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Hello, Brendan Joseph: Berni clued me in that you are related to my grandfather Patrick Joseph Keating. I really appreciated your sharing the information about Maurice, my great grandfather. He sounds like he was a very good man. I just registered with rootschat.com; so, perhaps we'll have more information as time goes by to share. Sincerely, Isky
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Isky,
Can you tell me what you know about your Keating's I may be able to track which family line they are.
Brendan
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Brendan: Thank you for your offer to help with more info if possible. Details are very sketchy. Berni already told you when and how my grandfather came to the U.S.A. He married my grandmother (a cousin or second cousin) he met in Boston -- Margaret Ann O'Shea also from Caherciveen. Before my grandfather came to U.S.A. he lived for a while with a sister to help her with her children because the sister's husband had been sent out of Ireland because he was accused of being a terrorist!!! I think the man was sent to either New Zealand or Australia. My grandfather stayed with his brother Jeremiah Keating in Malden, Massachusetts, when he came here. That is all I can tell you. A cousin of mine indicated from information she gathered that my grandfather was born on Main Street in Caherciveen (possibly No. 72 or 109). That's about all I have right now. Isky
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Isky,
Can you share with me again your linkage into our O'Shea family?
Thanks
Bob
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Bob: My grandmother Margaret Anne O'Shea was the daughter (born 5/12/1890) of Michael O'Shea and Margaret O'Reilly of Caherciveen. She came to the United States in 1910. Michael O'Shea's father was Bartholomew Shea and his mother was Catharine Clifford. Isky
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Isky, Have we corresponded before? I am in contact with your relatives Eilleen Avazian and Anne B. Keating. What is your linkage to these ladies. I am descended from John V O'Shea (my g-grandfather) who was Margaret's brother. John's daughter (my grandmother) is still alive and living in Newfoundland at age 95. I visited while on vacation last week in fact.
I found the record of your grandmother and Michael coming to NY on Ancestry and passed it along to Berni. Would love to hear more from you and your line of the tree.
Regards
Bob
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Hi, Bob: Yes, we have already been in touch -- I am using "Isky" on this site but you know me as Eileen Ayvazian! You are a very good detective. Hope all is well with you. How was your visit with your aunt? Sad news about Berni's father. Till next time. Eileen
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Aileen,
Great to hear from you! I had a great visit with my Aunt Aileen in DC a couple of months ago and I had a great visit with my 95 year old grandmother last week. She is John O'Shea's daughter...would be your mother's generation. If you need a lookup in the Keating Book, an old genealogy friend (Des Steele) has a copy here in Ontario and even has the edits that need to be made in the next iteration. I have his email and corresponded with him lately as well.
Bob
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Hello Bob: Good to hear from you. Lucky you that you have your aunt and grandmother to visit. I wish mine mom and grandmother were still here. They'd be thrilled with all this communication with the newly discovered relatives. I did reach out to June Keating in New Zealand and am now in possession of my own copy of "The Keatings of Caherciveen, County Kerry". It's a bit dense; however, when I have time, I will study it and I'm sure I'll find many interesting connections. Hope you have a lovely summer. Ta ta for now. Eileen
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Hi, my name is Ana Keating and I am one of the 18 grandchildren of Patrick Aloysius Keating and Adélia de Azeredo, daughter of their son Francisco de Paula, the youngest of their four children, who died in Angola in 1962.
I would like to contact Brendan, whom I think I've met in Ireland when I first visited my Irish family, many years ago. I live in Lisbon, Portugal, and regret to inform you that Patrick Keating, my 95 y.o. uncle who lived in Oporto, has died in August this year.
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Hi, Eileen, I hope you can identify me after the message I posted before. I read you found what I believe is a book, "The Keatings of Cahirciveen". I would love to have it too, so please be so kind as to let me know how I can get it. Thanks in advance, Ana
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Hi Anna,
I am the Brendan you met, I am very sorry to hear about Paddy.
My email is: (*)
Brendan
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