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Some Special Interests => One Name Studies => One Name Studies: A to G => Topic started by: Ceidwad Goleudy on Sunday 18 January 09 15:52 GMT (UK)
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My great granddad was William Henry Aston born in Pontnewyndd, Trevethin, Monmouthshire and baptized on the 27th February 1859. He married Louisa Ann Davies in 1881 and they moved to Penrhys, Glamorgan. William's siblings were Elizabeth born 1854, Joseph born 1857, Mary Jane born 1861 and Ann Maria born 1863. Mary Jane was born in Abersychan while the others were born in Trevethin.
William's father was Joseph Aston and he was born in Pentrebach, Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan and baptized on the 30th January 1814 at St. Tydfil Parish Church, Merthyr Tydfil. On the 13th May 1855 at Llanhilleth Parish Church, Monmouthshire he married a Jane Williams (who later went on to marry a William Burland).
Joseph was a widower when he married Jane and was listed as a forge agent in Trevethin, Pontnewyndd, Monmouthshire. On the marriage certificate his father was listed as a James Aston and he too was listed as a forge agent.
By searching different censuses and following a few assumptions I believe that Joseph's father was a James Astons born in Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan and baptized on the 30th January 1786 at St. Tydfil Parish Church, Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan. I also believe Joseph may have had an older brother William Astons born about 1810. This James Astons married an Ann Smith on the 18th August 1803 at Merthyr Tydfil but I'm unsure if they are my Aston family.
I found my great great granddad Joseph Aston in the 1851 census at Trevethin but he was listed as a Joseph Astons and he was married to an Ann born about 1809 in Risca, Monmouthshire. Their children were Maria born 1834, James born 1839, William born 1842, George born 1844 and Samuel born 1850. All their children were born in Monmouthshire.
Up until 1855 Joseph Aston was a forge agent in Trevethin but in the 1861 census for Trevethin he was recorded as the inn keeper of the Railway Inn. In the BMD index I believe I found his death registered with Pontypool in the Oct/Nov/Dec section for 1864.
That is as far as I've got with researching the Aston family. Hopefully this may be of help to anyone also researching the Aston/s family.
Regards,
Goleudy
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Hello,
I am descended from William Henry's brother Joseph! I have the same information as you, and a bit more. The Aston family moved to Merthyr from Broseley, Shropshire. They were ironworkers and moved with the Ironmaster since they were skilled labour between 1784 and 1786. I believe James's parents were Samuel and Rachel (nee Armstrong/Armishrew) from Broseley. James was their first child to be born in Merthyr.
I have traced the Armstrong line back through the Broseley registers online, but the Astons are harder since there are a few possible baptisms to choose from. The Armstrongs or Armishrews are probably descendants of the new settlers to Broseley in the early seventeenth century. Who knows where they came from..
James wrote a Will, leaving the Inn and other cottages to his family. I think he must have worked his way up from a Roller in Pen y Darren ironworks to a Forge Agent and so cold afford property. Joseph also left a Will.
Joseph bn 1857 moved to Lancashire presumably for work. He became a coal miner. His daughter is my Great Grandmother, so we are distantly related..
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Hello,
I am interested in knowing more about the Aston family, photos, etc.
I am descended from Joseph Aston (via one of his daughters Sarah Jane), born 18 Apr 1857; he's my great-great-grandfather.
He was baptized again as follows (from the Lancashire online parish clerk project):
Baptisms: 14 Sep 1893 St James, Haydock, Lancashire, England
Joseph Aston - Child of Joseph Aston & Jane
Born: 18 Apr 1857
Abode: Powtenwydd N Wales [sic]
Occupation: Railway Inspector
Notes: [P in margin]
Baptised by: C. E. Bowden Vicar
Register: Baptisms 1877 - 1899, Page 211, Entry 1682
Source: LDS Film 1885722
For the baptisms of his children, Collier/Miner is listed as occupation. (There is no gravestone for Joseph at St James, I was shown the plot by the minister.)
I have other information to share and would be grateful for any other information re: Aston descendants.
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I am also descended from Joseph via his daughter Leah Aston bn 1882. Joseph is my gt gt grandfather too. That makes us 3rd cousins I think!
I have traced the Astons back to Broseley in Shropshire via Merthyr Tydfil and Pontnewynyd. I guess you have done the same? If not then I can help you out there!
I might have the odd photo of Leah at family weddings. Maybe one of Joseph, but I'll have to check.
Why would you get baptised again?
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Hi
Thanks for your reply.
I have created a pdf chart of Joseph Aston (1857) and his descendants (of which I'm aware), which shows you what I know, but I am new to this site, so I don't know what's the best way to send/upload, etc. Can you help?
Also, I have a photos of Leah's sisters Gladys and Sarah Jane to upload if you are interested, I would greatly appreciate any photos of the Aston family.
I can only presume he (Joseph) was baptized again because either (a) he wanted to renew his faith or (b) he wasn't sure if he was baptized, and the priest CE Bowden at St James was more insistent than most.
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Hi Antwnsaint,
Welcome to RootsChat :)
I have created a pdf chart of [...] but I am new to this site, so I don't know what's the best way to send/upload, etc. Can you help?
This might help:
http://www.rootschat.com/help/posting.php
and
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regards,
Bob
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Here is the chart for Joseph Aston's [Born 1857] descendants, and a photo of Gladys Aston, Leah's sister, as mentioned in my PM.
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Thanks, there's loads of stuff I haven't got there.
I've got loads more to send you for when you are back online. By the way, you've got the Harry Burrows line wrong. He married Edna Hughes and had Susan, Janet and Steven Burrows. Susan is my mum.
Speak to you in a few days.
Jody
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Hi Jody
Thanks for your reply and information.
I got the following from St Marks, Haydock (it's not online or on microfilm, records are kept in the church only - so far), were there 2 Henry/Harry Burrows and Ednas in the same area, do you know? Is the address significant?
Myra, daughter of Henry and Edna Burrows, 287 Liverpool Road, engineering lecturer. Minister - Sidney Billingham. 1938
Linda, daughter of Henry and Edna Burrows, 287 Liverpool Road, engineering lecturer. Minister - S. Billingham. 1945
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Hi
I can see this is an old thread from 2009, hope some one reads this ?
Very interesting background info about the Aston family.
I have been looking at
Sarah Aston / Poulsom / Pitt
Birth Apr 1854 in Pontypool, Monmouthshire, Wales
She was never in a census with her parents but with her (gran just a guess) "Diana Perkins" even when she marries and almost next door to her Dad.
[last time I looked there were duplicate census pages for this area on Ancestry]
She may have been 16y when she married on,
25 Dec 1870
Frances Henry Poulsom, X, 28, B, miner, Cwmbran.
Father Henry Poulsom, labr
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Sarah Aston, 20, S, Cwmbran.
Father Joseph Aston, railway inspector
Wit:-Wm Burton, Elizth Aston
See census 1871 quite interesting but badly transcribed.
I did wonder is the witness may have been a typo and should be "William Burland" who was the husband of the widow "Jane Aston"
Also I think Sarah may have been the last daughter of Ann who was the first wife of Joseph Aston. Not sure what happens to Ann and the other children ?
You can see what I have found with this link, it may not work unless you have an account.
http://trees.ancestry.co.uk/tree/29123414/person/12137094318
We have always wondered why she remarried W G Pitt who was a lot younger than her and a former lodger (he was younger than some of her children) we guess it may have been for financial reasons. It was difficult to investigate since they both fibbed about their ages and then WG Pitt married again a lot later to another Sarah.
all for now.
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Hi..
Thanks for your message..
We struggled to work out what happened to Joseph's first family, but it seems almost certain that his first wife emigrated to America and took her children with her, hence their complete disappearance. She remarried and had more children, whilst Joseph married Jane, claiming to be a Widower!
It might be that Sarah was in fact a child of Jane's, before they were married. I don't know when Ann left for Pensylvania... but obviously before May 1855 when Jospeh and Jane were married.. J and J could easily have had an illegitimate child before that date.. Jane's maiden name was Williams. It might be worth getting hold of Sarah's birth certificate..
A descendant of Ann discovered her in 1860 US Census, now as Ann Wallace, with new husband William, and three of her children, William, George and Samuel, plus Alison Wallace aged 6, who was born in Pensylvania, so they must have arrived there by 1854.. Ann's maiden name was Israel and I believe she may have used this name in the US..
This is what the above descendant wrote..
'Hi. I just obtained a copy of my great grandfather's death certificate which listed his mother was being named Anne Israel from Wales. My great grandfather's name was Samuel Aston. He was born in Monmouthshire about 1850 and immigrated with his mother Anne and siblings to Scranton, Pennsylvania USA. His father might have been named Joseph Aston. I am trying to find out more information about Anne Israel and what happened to Joseph Aston, her first husband. After Anne came to America she married William Wallace in Pennsylvania. Any information about the Israel family in Monmouthshire, Wales is greatly appreciated.'):
http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/thread.aspx?mv=flat&m=413&p=surnames.israel
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Hi Doublecourt
Many thanks for your reply, I did guess that she may have left with the children or succumbed to illness with her children, but could not find any records to support this.
I am sure that you know all the info below, I just hope this may be of interest to others.
I had seen references to Anne's family, I think one of her sons but that was over a year ago and since I could not be sure I did not investigate further.
Interesting to note about possibility of Sarah's mother being Anne (Ann) or Jane is that she has 9 children and two of them Emily Jane abt1872 and Annie Maria abt 1878 . However Ann Maria Aston was in the house with Sarah in c1871... I guess we will never be sure of the circumstance for Sarah's birth.
Sarah lived with Diana Perkins (abt 1800 in Harfordwest, Pembrokeshire) most of her life and in c1871 states Grandmother (? term of endearment) I did look for Diana in census 1841 and 51 but no luck.
Just had a look and there are still TWO 1871 census records for the family when she was married
Sarah Pulsond & Deaival Perkins /// Sarah Ponlsend & Deanah Perkins
Sarah is next door to Jane Burland who was Joseph Aston's 2nd wife who then remarried William Burland.
A very complicated family and Sarah's life was even more complex in 1904 when she married WG Pitt and he went on to have children with another Sarah. It would be interesting to know more about the first wife Sarah, she will be in the 1921 census but who else will be in the house ? we will just have to wait.
I would like to thank everyone who posted on this topic.
J&L
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As a Great grandson of William Henry Aston, I have been trying to find some past history of the family. But until my son found this blog, I have been facing a stone wall. I now seem to know the reason why. According to William Henry Aston's birth certificate his mothers maiden name is listed as Jane Perkins, but I note that two years prior to Williams birth his father Joseph married a Jane Williams, and it is mentioned above that she is Williams mother. Please can anybody help in providing any information in respect of this. Is Jane Perkins in fact Jane Williams. I would be vary grateful if somebody could help.
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Hi Tony,
A huge welcome to RootsChat.
I am very sorry to say that we have been unable to get your message to Ceidwad Goleudy as sadly there email address has stopped working.
I have googled his eddress and some family names but I have been unable to discover an alternative way of contacting them. Ceidwad Goleudy is a profile name that translates to Lighthouse keeper.
Sometime's old members do get back intouch and I do hope that this will be the case.
It may be worth starting off a "new topic" with the added information you have to see what more you can find out.
Regards
Sarah :)
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Hi Sarah and Tony,
I've only just seen your posts. My email address was non-contactable as it had been hacked. I gained a new email address and that too was hacked! That was the reason you were unable to contact me. Sorry about that. Hopefully this latest email address will remain secure.
I also haven't visited this site recently either. I put my family research on hold for a while as I thought I'd researched as far back as I could be sure of with my ancestral line.
I remember the research seemed unusual at the time, with the missing first family as mentioned by Doublecourt in this thread and the marriage of Jane Williams (Joseph's widow) to William Burland before the next census return.
Regards,
Goleudy
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Yeay ! Welcome back Goleudy :D
Sarah
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Thank you Sarah. :D
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Long time no do any family history! If any of you are still following this line...
There was mention of the name Perkins being the Grandmother of Sarah Aston bn abt 1842/54. this is an in correct assumption. In the Census of 1871, it is the head of the house all people are related to.. so she would be the grandmother of Henry Poulsom, not sarah. I didn't really understand where the information came regarding who Sarah grew up with. I see from the 1861 Census, that Joseph has a servant with a surname of Perkins.
Sarah is most certainly a child of Joseph Aston and Jane Williams as she is listed as such in Joseph's Will. Anna Maria is certainly Sarah's little sister, but in the Census, there is often no distinction made between sister and sister in law or step sister, hence the confusion. Hope that helps.
Joseph's first wife had another child in 1854 in Pensylvannia. She had taken the three youngest Aston children with her so unlikely that Sarah is hers. Bearing in mind there was no such thing as divorce, I suspect Joseph and Jane felt they could not marry too soon. He lied, saying he was a widower, in 1855.
I expect Sarah married young because she had no father to look after her, only a step father.
Finally.. the references to Henry Burrows and Edna Burrows.. they are not on my tree. My grandparents were Harry and Edna, not Henry and did not have children with those names.
Any news folks?