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Title: Ceylon look up - Worms
Post by: jahall on Friday 30 January 09 03:27 GMT (UK)
sorry not sure where to post this...

Last time someone was really useful on Ceylon lookups for me...

Looking for a company called  Joseph & Worms.  Was in West Colombo.  My gg grandfather worked/owned it  Samuel Lewis Worms.  I really want to know if there is any connection to the Worms that ran the Rothschild plantation.

This is where I found the information

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lkawgw/appx14.htm

Thanks to anyone who can help.

Jen
Title: Re: Ceylon look up - Worms
Post by: liverpool annie on Friday 30 January 09 06:22 GMT (UK)

Are these the Worms you are talking about Jen ?

http://www.rothschildarchive.org/ib/articles/AR2004ceylon.pdf

http://www.juedischesmuseum.de/judengasse/ehtml/F088.htm

Annie† :)
Title: Re: Ceylon look up - Worms
Post by: liverpool annie on Friday 30 January 09 07:07 GMT (UK)

Have you tried looking for wills at all ??

WORMS, MAURICE BENEDICT DE -   

English financier and agriculturist; born in Frankfort-on-the-Main 1805; died in London 1867; grandson of Meyer Anselm de Rothschild, and son of Benedict de Worms, a distinguished member of the Jewish community of Frankfort. On a visit to the Far East in 1841, Maurice and his brother Gabriel de Worms purchased a large estate in Ceylon, which became known as the Rothschild Estate. Acre by acre was added to this estate, which was among the best-cultivated tracts of land in the island; and when the Worms brothers in 1865 disposed of their holdings, they had no less than 2,000 acres under cultivation, and more than 6,000 acres of forest land to be reclaimed. The brothers were among the pioneer settlers in Ceylon, and contributed largely to its prosperity. In his will Maurice de Worms bequeathed large sums of money to various Jewish charitable institutions.

Bibliography: Jew. Chron. June 14, 1867.J. G. L.

http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=282&letter=W
Title: Re: Ceylon look up - Worms
Post by: jahall on Saturday 31 January 09 01:42 GMT (UK)
yes they are the Worms.  My gg grandfather Samuel Lewis Worms was there at the same time he married a Matilda Catherine Lyons in Ceylon who was born in Ceylon.  Just trying to make the link between the 3 Worms - seems to be a coincidence that 3 "Worms" were in Ceylon at the same time - especially during that time.  Both sides orginate from Frankfort and seem to have gone to london about 1790-1805?  All "Worms" at the time were in the fabric/textile trade so too many concidences.  Just trying to prove it is hard? perhaps cousins or uncles? Also Samuel went back to the UK with his family and is on the 1861 census but arrives in NZ in 1862.  He had married a woman of mixed breed and was not accepted into the family - only just learnt this.

Any ideas of where to look next would be useful - I have Samuels grandfathers will  (Aaron Worms) but it doesnt mention Samuel - he also died before Samuel went to Ceylon I think.  I have Samuels death cert but it doesnt give me much information - in fact some of it was wrong.

Jen
Title: Re: Ceylon look up - Worms
Post by: stasiadevorms on Friday 04 June 10 07:00 BST (UK)
I wonder if your great grandfather (and you) are related to me? I'm a de Vorms from New Zealand, I'm really interested in tracing my ancestry so if we share some ancestors I'd love to know :)
Title: Re: Ceylon look up - Worms
Post by: jahall on Friday 04 June 10 10:29 BST (UK)
Would put my mortgage on it.

Who was your mother and father and grandparents? Have a good family tree you can contact me at (*)

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Title: Re: Ceylon look up - Worms
Post by: Coco94 on Tuesday 19 May 20 11:08 BST (UK)
Hi jahall, I've made an account to message you. Samuel Lewis worms is my great great great grandfather. Roy Morrison worms his my great great grandfather. I have something that will be of interest to you. I look forward to your response. :)
Title: Re: Ceylon look up - Worms
Post by: ghensman on Tuesday 21 July 20 07:36 BST (UK)
I am trying to find out why Samuel Lewis Worms came to Ceylon and what type of occupation he had.  He was married twice in Ceylon.  My heritage is from his second narrate to Laura Eugenie Worms.

Thanks
Gillian
Title: Re: Ceylon look up - Worms
Post by: Staceydevorms on Wednesday 29 July 20 00:16 BST (UK)
Hi jahall, I've made an account to message you. Samuel Lewis worms is my great great great grandfather. Roy Morrison worms his my great great grandfather. I have something that will be of interest to you. I look forward to your response. :)

Coco94 I would like to get in touch but canít pm apparently until Iíve posted more! Am very curious as to what youíve found, Samuel Lewis was my 5th great grandfather :)
Title: Re: Ceylon look up - Worms
Post by: sarah on Wednesday 29 July 20 13:42 BST (UK)
Hello coco, ghensman and stacey.

Jahall has been notified of your replies by email I am sorry they have not replied to your replies. They were last online last month.

Regards

Sarah
Title: Re: Ceylon look up - Worms
Post by: Staceydevorms on Wednesday 29 July 20 20:25 BST (UK)
I will let jahall know that there are replies on this thread  :)
Title: Re: Ceylon look up - Worms
Post by: ghensman on Thursday 29 April 21 04:31 BST (UK)
Hi Sarah,

I need to get in touch with Jahall re the ancestry thread on Samuel Lewis Worms.

Can you help me please.

Kind regards
Gillian
Title: Re: Ceylon look up - Worms
Post by: sarah on Thursday 29 April 21 10:22 BST (UK)
Hello Gillian,

Jahill was online last in June 2020, they are being notified of replies to their topics but I am sorry I do not know why there are not replying ??? ??? It is not just this topic there are others.

Regards

Sarah