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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: LzzieG on Monday 02 February 09 21:44 GMT (UK)
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If anyone has access to the passenger lists for the SS Great Britain which did about 32 voyages from the UK to Australia from 1852 to 1875, would you please check for a William Whittaker born about 1833/34 in Lancashire, England and his wife Ann (maiden name Armstead) who was born about 1830/31 in Lancashire. They were married on 29/10/1854 at Oswaldtwistle, Lancashire, England. They emigrated to Victoria, Australia sometime between 1854 and 1871 (their daughter Ellen was born at Pleasant Creek in Victoria in 1871). Ellen Whittaker who was born in 1871 is the Great Grandmother of a friend of mine who has only just begun her family history research and despite searching through many passenger list indexes has been unable to locate when and by which ship the Whittakers arrived in Australia. I'm hoping they may have been one of the many passengers who sailed from Liverpool, England to Melbourne, Australia onboard the SS Great Britain. Any help would be most appreciated.
Lizzie
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The couple had their first child in Victoria in 1858, so narrows the time frame down a little
Jenn
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Thanks for that Jenn. Do you have any more details on the child such as name and place of birth or reference number for the birth entry? It may be worthwhile ordering the birth certificate.
Lizzie
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A birth certificate will not say how long in the colonies but a death certificate usually does.
Births for this couple in Victoria
Benjamin William born 1858 at Kangaroo Ground reg no 19345
Walter William born 1861 at Castlemaine reg no 16170
Died aged 9months in 1862 at Castlemaine reg no 4048
Mary Ann born 1863 at Ingl reg no 8409
Alice born 1865 at Ingl reg no 15971
Ellen born 1870 at Yowe reg no 27273
died 1870 aged 2 months reg no
Ellen born 1871 at Plea reg no 25423
It is possible the couple ight have landed in another state first and then went to Victoria.
Jenn
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Thanks so much for all those details Jenn. You have certainly lessened the time frame during when William and Ann arrived in Australia and given us a lot to work on. We have checked most of the immigration indexes online that we know of for most of the states but we will certainly keep digging.
Dawn
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As your friend has the birth details in England does that mean that your friend is only looking for the arrival?
Jenn
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If anyone has access to the passenger lists for the SS Great Britain which did about 32 voyages from the UK to Australia from 1852 to 1875, would you please check for a William Whittaker born about 1833/34 in Lancashire, England and his wife Ann (maiden name Armstead) who was born about 1830/31 in Lancashire. ...
I'm hoping they may have been one of the many passengers who sailed from Liverpool, England to Melbourne, Australia onboard the SS Great Britain. Any help would be most appreciated.
Lizzie
Lizzie have you some info such as family stories etc, that they actually sailed on the SS Great Britain?
Terra
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Hi Jenn and Terra
A week ago the only info we had was a schedule of 1871 Victorian births that showed Ellen Whittaker's birth details that was passed down from a great aunt. From the info on that record we located William and Ann's marriage record in Lancashire just a few days ago. Family members knew that the Whittakers came from Lancashire but that was about it. Locating their arrival date in Australia and via which ship is just really a starting point. We are trying to find out as much information about them as we can. William's occupation on his marriage record is 'engraver'. We do know Ellen who was born 1871 married Henry Herbert Fisher in 1893 in NSW and their descendents (one being my friend Sandra who is Ellen's g grandaughter) moved to Qld but we know nothing about what happened to Ellen's parents or siblings.
The reason on my query about the SS Great Britain is that after being unable to locate the Whittakers on any immigration indexes so far, a person at my workplace suggested checking the passenger list for the SS Great Britain as it did many voyages from Liverpool, England to Australia.
I did locate a website that lists the surnames of passengers who travelled on the SS Great Britain for the period 1852 to 1875 from Liverpool to Australia. All that information is from the book "Is yours an SS Great Britain family?" from the SS Great Britain Project. The surname of Whittaker is in that list. Unfortunately the email link from that website to the contact person for further info on those passengers is broken. Hence my query regarding the SS Great Britain
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Lizzie,
I have ancestors that came out on the SS Gr Britain, and know of the book.
I copied pages of it.
On page 94 it lists the name Whittaker, none appear to be yours.
the ones mentioned are spelled Whittaker, not Whitaker.
Unfortunately I did not photocopy page 93, which would have the other spelling - Whitaker.
I only copied this page because of my line of Wild.
I imagine if they are not listed in the prov indexes for this ship then they will not be listed in the book.
If you are still desperate I will check my local library for you.
Margaret
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We do know Ellen who was born 1871 married Henry Herbert Fisher in 1893 in NSW and their descendents (one being my friend Sandra who is Ellen's g grandaughter) moved to Qld but we know nothing about what happened to Ellen's parents or siblings.
I can not see this marriage on the NSW bdm's?
Jenn
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Ah ha
I see they married in Qld in 1893 twin girls born the same year.
Jenn
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My apologies Jenn. It was Qld where Ellen and Henry married in 1893. I think I'm starting to go crosseyed after spending so many hours on the internet today trying to find more info on the Whittakers.
Thanks for your message Margaret. It was always going to be a longshot about the SS Great Britain. I shall just have to keep searching through passenger lists until I locate them.
Lizzie
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Hi Lizzie
I have the book 'Is Yours An S.S. Great Britain Family?' as my Manx family Chubbin/Cubbin arrived at Melbourne on it in 1867 on Voyage 30. Then they came on to N Z from there.
I have checked p 93 and there are only 3 Whitaker listed all on voyage 23, 1863. Mrs Hannah, 29, Walter 2 and Maria no age given. So that clears that point up for you.
I'm sure if they had travelled on this ship, family would have talked about it for the rest of their lives - as mine did as the steam voyage was history making and such a change from sailing ships.
The S.S. G.B. is now restored at Bristol, Eng. and I have been on it and aghast as to how small it was.
Only the Salons for the 1st Class had been restored and as my family had travelled out steerage class it would have been interesting to have seen how a family of seven could have been accommodated for the 59 days. I mentioned this to the receptionist as we left saying that a large number of those travelling to Aust/NZ could only have afforded the steerage passage and it would have been interesting to see how they coped, but all I got was a frosty stare! Oh dear! The class system??? I put my foot in it! :-[ :-[ :-[
My gm was an infant on the trip but her sisters, 3, 5, and 8 remember how kind the sailors were when they lifted them up to see the icebergs floating past. Warming of the earth then maybe!!
Will do Lookups in the book for anyone else - will try to remember to check this post from time to time. ::) ::) ::)
Good luck with your research - Faith Green N Z
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Hi Faith
I knew that the SS "Great Britain" had been restored and was in Bristol, but was very interested to read your experiences of visiting it, and how small you found it!
My gggrandmother Margaret Anne Cameron (Mrs Donald Charles Cameron) came on it with her children in the 1850s. I have those details. However, her husband came a couple of years earlier, and I have not been able to find details of his passage. Would you please check to see if there is a Donald Charles Cameron in the 1850s? He would probably have been in his early forties.
Also, it's possible my ggrandfather William Justin Beauchamp Cameron came on it in 1860. Would you mind checking for him? He may appear under William Cameron or Beauchamp Cameron.
Thanks very much!
MarieC
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Hello Marie C
Only too glad to help but....
Voyages to Australia, Melbourne started with Voyage No. 9 in 1852 and ceased with Voyage 44 in 1875. The passenger lists for voyages 18 ( Dec1859), 19 (July 1860) and 44 (Aug 1875) have not survived .
Your Camerons do not appear definitely with the names you have given me. Some are just Mr. and Mrs. etc but families are kept together. However, all have ages.
If you could give me their approx birth year I'll do a quick bit of maths and maybe that will clear things up as they say the handwriting on the Passenger Lists was hard to decipher at times.
Also the chn's names of the family which came out with Margaret Anne Cameron as there are several families with a 'Mrs' Cameron.
We in NZ are shocked at your Q. Floods! Feel so sorry for you if that's where you are. And the terrible bush fires near Melbourne - our sympathy goes out to everyone.
Faith :( :( :( :( :(
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Hi Faith,
Don't worry about Margaret Anne Cameron and her children - I'm pretty confident that I have them (probably on the old computer, which I haven't yet got to communicate with the new computer! ::) ::) )
Donald Charles Cameron was born ca 1812 - I don't have his exact year of birth. William Justin Beauchamp Cameron (commonly known as Beauchamp Cameron) was born in 1845. These are the two I would love to find!
Thank you for your expressions of sympathy! I am in southern Queensland, nowhere near the floods - in fact, we are in drought and our city's water supply dams sit at just over 10%! :( :'( There are terrible tragedies to the north and south of us. The bushfires are getting most of the air time, but the hardships of North Queenslanders are just as intense, though there has not been the enormous loss of human life.
MarieC
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Here we go MarieC - I've done every William or W Cameron except a 1 yr old one and one who was heading to Otago, NZ, there's only a few of them.
Cameron W R (could this be W B?) 28 yrs, Voyage 24, departed L'pool 15-10-1863 took 63 days
Cameron William , Labourer,18 years, Voyage 25
departed L,pool 26-5-1864 took 60 days
Cameron William, 25 yrs Irish Voyage 28,
departed L'Pool 18-2-66 took 58 days
Cameron Don 29 yrs merchant Scot Voyage 41
departed L'pool 27-10-1873 took 41 days
So there was only one Donald and no Charles - the males all had their given names or initials.
There is no sign of a J or a B to fit in with W J B Cameron either.
Otherwise they could be on the first 2 missing passenger lists which were 11-12-1859 and 20-7-1860. At least that might narrow it down. Check Melbourne papers of that time on the Internet, as the Shipping News usually had passengers listed, especially with ships arriving from England.
It's so frustrating isn't it to be so close but unable to finalise the trips. that's why I called my book about my Manx family "Threads and Patches". The threads were the pieces of data, the patches were when something was solved or changed but the Holes left were the unanswered questions!
Good excuse anyway!
Do let me know if I can help further.
Faith
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Hi Faith! :)
Thank you so much for doing all that searching for me - I really appreciate it!
I think there's a good chance that WJB Cameron came on one of those missing passenger lists, probably the 1860 one. D**n! And as Margaret Anne Cameron came in 1853 on the Great Britain (I've just found my stuff on her!), maybe Donald Charles came a couple of years earlier, on a different ship. I and others have searched for him on passenger lists, but not found him.
Never mind. "Threads and Patches" is an excellent metaphor for this!
Thanks again, Faith!
MarieC
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Hello MarieC
It is one of those frustrating situations 'you've found out something and that is he is not there'!
Not very comforting I know but it looks like he may have come on one of the missing passenger lists.
Is there a Rootschat 'angel' who would do a lookup in a paper of the time in Melbourne for you? There would be a finite time using the approx times of the other voyages so it wouldn't involve hours of searching. If the passenger list was mislaid later, the paper of the time would be the last resort. A ship like the SS G B would definitely be mentioned.
Happy hunting!!
Faith ::) ::) ::)
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Good thinking, Faith!
Actually I am going to our State Library in a month with the Genealogy Group I belong to, and they have newspapers from most States on microfilm. I'll have a look for it myself and see if it is there. If I run out of time (I have a few things to do while there), I'll follow up the rest of your suggestion.
MarieC
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Hi there BARRIE GREEN! :)
WOuld you be kind enough to look in your book "Is yours an SS Great Britain Family?" to see if there was a William Henry Greaves on the voyage #21 (departed Liverpool 20 October 1861, arrived Melbourne 24 December 1861)? My grandmother often used to tell me that he father had come out with the All England 11 Cricketers, so I think he should be on that list??
I would appreciate anything you can to help me out with some information, as my Family Tree does not seem to go back any further than this until I get some more info!!
Thanks in advance!
Regards,
Patricia Anderson
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Hello ther Pat and welcome to rootschat
now I gather William Henry Greaves is your great grandfather?
Do you have his death in Victoria?
Where and when was your grandmother born?
Jenn
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Hi there Pat 3145
Sorry about this late reply but our computer has been with a wonderful son-in-law for a week transferring all our data to our new state of the art machine and we have just had it all set up to go-go!
There is only one GREAVES on the list = George aged 21 Labourer on voyage 31.
BUT - there is also only one William Grieves, aged 27, Labourer, on Voyage 21 with all the Travel details matching yours. No other Grieves at all. Sounds like yours. Let me know if you need to know more.
Faith Green :) :) :)
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Hi! I think the George Greaves you found might be my relation. Is there any chance you could send me the details you found? George Greaves was my Grandmother's brother (I think!) Cheers Jill
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Hi Jill
The only other information available from this book is that Voyage No. 31 left Liverpool, England on 15 December 1867, it took 57 days to reach Melbourne and there were 512 passengers on board. Hope that will point the way to confirming data in shipping lists for you. Perhaps other family/friends went out with him, if so let me know and I'll look that up as well.
Cheers- :) :) Faith Green
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Thanks for the info...however I have found out that my Samuel Greaves(born about 1882) was on the Runic which left Liverpool in 1911 and arrived in Albany, so therefore our dates don't match.I wonder if you have any info about this though? What happened when people got to Albany? Did they come out with a promise of a job?Is he mentioned on any of your lists? Cheers , Jill
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Hi Jill
The only other Greaves (or similar spelling) is J L Greaves, no age, no occupation who was on voyage No. 9 which left L'pool 21 August 1852 and took 81 days to reach Melbourne and then went on to Sydney. This was the first trip to Australia by the S S Great Britain.
I am in New Zealand and have just the book "Is Yours An S S Great Britain Family?" but other Shipping data is available on N S W and Victorian websites. Try them as so much is available now.
Good Luck Faith
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Family tradition holds that my Great-Great-Grandmother AMY GRAY ROBERTS was born aboard the SS Great Britian on November 8th 1870. She was named AMY GRAY after the captain, JOHN GRAY, and her birth was registered in London in 1871.
Her parents were JOHN & LOUISA ROBERTS. JOHN was born in Scotland and LOUISA was born in New Zealand.
Is there anything in the passenger lists to substantiate this?
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Another source which might help is an online newspaper. I found a relative who had arrived in Australia at that period had signed, with others, a letter of thanks to the ship's captain for a safe and comfortable voyage. In one issue there were letters from different classes of passenger! I am sorry I have not kept the site's details.
A
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Family tradition holds that my Great-Great-Grandmother AMY GRAY ROBERTS was born aboard the SS Great Britian on November 8th 1870. She was named AMY GRAY after the captain, JOHN GRAY, and her birth was registered in London in 1871.
Her parents were JOHN & LOUISA ROBERTS. JOHN was born in Scotland and LOUISA was born in New Zealand.
Is there anything in the passenger lists to substantiate this?
Hi Arwald,
The family story about your GG Grandmother Amy Gray ROBERTS birth on the ship Great Britain is TRUE!
Amy Gray ROBERTS birth was registered onboard the Ship at Sea & in Victoria, Australia on their arrival in 1870 not 1871 in London.
From the Ship Register:
ROBERTS Unnamed Female at Sea on Board the Great Britain Reg #26
Born: 8.30 am on 8 November 1870
Place: Latitude - 40.35 South & Longitude - 3.56 East (which according to my computer GPS is off the top coast of Africa)
Father: John ROBERTS farmer born Scotland
Mother: Louisa KETTLE born New Zealand
Married: January 1870 New Zealand reg#8409
Ship Captain: John Gray
Ship Surgeon: Robert McGowan
From the Victorian Indexes:
ROBERTS Unnamed Female born:1870 place:GREA reg:26M
Parents: John ROBERTS & Louisa KETTLE
I also have the scanned image of her birth registration which includes signatures of the captain & surgeon from the ship register if you would like a copy of it you will need to PM me an email address for me to send it to.
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Family tradition holds that my Great-Great-Grandmother AMY GRAY ROBERTS was born aboard the SS Great Britian on November 8th 1870. She was named AMY GRAY after the captain, JOHN GRAY, and her birth was registered in London in 1871.
Her parents were JOHN & LOUISA ROBERTS. JOHN was born in Scotland and LOUISA was born in New Zealand.
Is there anything in the passenger lists to substantiate this?
Hi Arwald,
The family story about your GG Grandmother Amy Gray ROBERTS birth on the ship Great Britain is TRUE!
Amy Gray ROBERTS birth was registered onboard the Ship at Sea & in Victoria, Australia on their arrival in 1870 not 1871 in London.
From the Ship Register:
ROBERTS Unnamed Female at Sea on Board the Great Britain Reg #26
Born: 8.30 am on 8 November 1870
Place: Latitude - 40.35 South & Longitude - 3.56 East (which according to my computer GPS is off the top coast of Africa)
Father: John ROBERTS farmer born Scotland
Mother: Louisa KETTLE born New Zealand
Married: January 1870 New Zealand reg#8409
Ship Captain: John Gray
Ship Surgeon: Robert McGowan
From the Victorian Indexes:
ROBERTS Unnamed Female born:1870 place:GREA reg:26M
Parents: John ROBERTS & Louisa KETTLE
I also have the scanned image of her birth registration which includes signatures of the captain & surgeon from the ship register if you would like a copy of it you will need to PM me an email address for me to send it to.
Hi Merlin
Thanks so much for digging up that record! There's something very exciting about her being born in the middle of the ocean like that. So it's in the Mediterranean by Spain? Here? http://www.mapquest.com/maps?l=40.35&g=3.56
It really is wonderful to be able to confirm the story. I had some doubts because her father had already moved to New Zealand in 1868, and her mother had been born here, so what were they doing on this boat in 1870?
I've also become fascinated by stories about the Captain JOHN GRAY who she was named after. Supposedly he was quite a character and passengers often wrote about him in their diaries. He mysteriously vanished from the ship in 1872 and is thought to have committed suicide by jumping overboard, or was thrown overboard by someone trying to to steal a hoard of gold he had. The boat still sits in Bristol dock and is supposedly haunted by his ghost.
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That's a great story about Captain John Gray, Arwald - indeed he does sound quite a character! My gggrandmother and several of her children came on the "Great Britain" in the mid 1850s - he was probably not captain then. I'd love to see the ship in Bristol dock!
MarieC
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Captain John Gray captained the SS Great Britain from 1854-1872 when he vanished at sea.
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Ohh! Thanks for that, Arwald. A little more colour for the stories about her passage! :D
MarieC
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And if you want to get really geeky about it:
http://www.bayanne.info/Shetland/getperson.php?personID=I45521&tree=bayanne_1
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Thanks Arwald!
Interesting.
MarieC
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I chanced upon this entry from a search for the Runic. The Runic arrived in Melbourne 3 times in 1911 - in January, May and October. Samuel Greaves did not disembark in Melbourne in that year. However, in May, an Annie Sybil Greaves did. I would assume that a ship travelling from Albany to Melbourne ( and beyond??}, would also stop at Adelaide. Some Australian Electoral rolls are available for searching. This ship appears to have made very good time, as my enquiree arrived in Melbourne in the March of 1912.
It is also highly likely that the ship had stopped at Perth, before Albany. I would wonder about the attraction of Albamy, although I know it had greater significance than being just a whaling station.
A subsequent comment : I checked births - Samuel Cavendish Greaves born Apr - Jun 1882 in Lancashire/Cheshire appears to be enrolled in 1916 at Fremantle, Western Australia and from 1925 at Swan ( in Perth ) WA. Further searching suggests he may not have married and died in Perth in 1950.
Added Wednesday : returned to WA BDM ; for your record. there are 32 GREAVES marriages recorded in WA between 1910 and 1945.
Raveon ( Melbourne )
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Hello, I am searching for SS Great Britian passenger as well. I believe William Anderson may have been a passenger in 1865, arriving in melbourne. Previously, I had thought it was 10 years earlier. I have only recently become aware of this later year date from a last Will, stating number of years in the Colony (50 years in 1915). If anyone has the book, 'Is Yours An S.S. Great Britain Family' could someone do a look-up for me? Searching for any additional information on William, as I cannot determine his birth in London, nor parents etc.
Much appreciated, regards
Hi Lizzie
I have the book 'Is Yours An S.S. Great Britain Family?' as my Manx family Chubbin/Cubbin arrived at Melbourne on it in 1867 on Voyage 30. Then they came on to N Z from there.
I have checked p 93 and there are only 3 Whitaker listed all on voyage 23, 1863. Mrs Hannah, 29, Walter 2 and Maria no age given. So that clears that point up for you.
I'm sure if they had travelled on this ship, family would have talked about it for the rest of their lives - as mine did as the steam voyage was history making and such a change from sailing ships.
The S.S. G.B. is now restored at Bristol, Eng. and I have been on it and aghast as to how small it was.
Only the Salons for the 1st Class had been restored and as my family had travelled out steerage class it would have been interesting to have seen how a family of seven could have been accommodated for the 59 days. I mentioned this to the receptionist as we left saying that a large number of those travelling to Aust/NZ could only have afforded the steerage passage and it would have been interesting to see how they coped, but all I got was a frosty stare! Oh dear! The class system??? I put my foot in it! :-[ :-[ :-[
My gm was an infant on the trip but her sisters, 3, 5, and 8 remember how kind the sailors were when they lifted them up to see the icebergs floating past. Warming of the earth then maybe!!
Will do Lookups in the book for anyone else - will try to remember to check this post from time to time. ::) ::) ::)
Good luck with your research - Faith Green N Z
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Hello, I am searching for SS Great Britian passenger as well. I believe William Anderson may have been a passenger in 1865, arriving in melbourne. Previously, I had thought it was 10 years earlier. I have only recently become aware of this later year date from his last Will, stating number of years in the Colony (50 years in 1915). If anyone has the book, 'Is Yours An S.S. Great Britain Family' could someone do a look-up for me? Searching for any additional information on William, as I cannot determine his birth in London, nor parents etc.
Much appreciated, kind regards
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Thanks
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http://archives.bristol.gov.uk/dserve/
Enter Voyage in the search box.
http://www.ssgreatbritain.org/Home.aspx
Here are some links to the Great Brtain and brief details of information held at Bristol Record Office. I hope they work.
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If anyone has access to the passenger lists for the SS Great Britain I am looking for the records of two passangers Thomas Peacock born in Lancaster England in 1841, may of travelled under the name of Thos Peacock and Angelina Beckett born in Essex England in 1842.
I would really appreciate any information
Thankyou
Brett
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Hello everyone - what amazing stories about the SS Great Britain!
Here you are peacock1881 - this looks like your Thomas Peacock as the age fits.
Thomas Peacock- 20 years- travelled out on the SS Great Britain on Voyage 21 which left Liverpool on 20 October 1861 and took 64 days to reach Melbourne. There were 535 passengers and a crew of 141.
There is no sign of Angela Becket.
Happy hunting - Faith
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Hello ulysses - I have just spotted your July query - it did not come through on our email at the time - there were gremlins in the works then!
This looks like your William Anderson - 31 years old, on Voyage 26.
This left Liverpool 17 Dec 1864 and took 62 days to reach Melbourne. It had a crew of 139 and carried 478 passengers.
This time frame appears to work in with your date. There were other Wm Andersons on other voyages.
You may have this by now anyway.
Faith
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If anyone has access to the passenger lists for the SS Great Britain I am looking for the records of two passangers Thomas Peacock born in Lancaster England in 1841, may of travelled under the name of Thos Peacock and Angelina Beckett born in Essex England in 1842.
I would really appreciate any information
Thankyou
Brett
Hello there Brett
and welcome to rootschat
The couple were married in Victoria in 1866
Thomas Peacock born Leigh Lancashire married Angelina BECKETT
born Essex
interestingly the marriage is recorded twice reg no 3277 and reg no 3507
so were there two couples with the same name or a problem with the registration of the marriage
Jenn
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Hi Faith,
Thanks so much for your post re: William Anderson. I haven't been able to find any other information to date. I was hoping the passenger list may had had some more extensive information, like occupation, district he lived in the UK etc.
Thanks for following this up from such a long time ago.
Regards
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Thank you both for the valuable information.
I have just started researching a week ago for my dads christmas gift and now I am hooked.
You info has really helped
Regards
Brett
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Re passenger list SS Great Britain
If anyone can help me out on a few missing links on this. it would be great.
Missing links
outward travel dates
who she was accompanied by on her outward travel
inward travel back to the UK in and around 1877 t0 1879
and was accompanied by William and Elsie Bowman aged 16 and 9
Passenger Margaret Josephine Prendergast from Creegh Co Clare Born 1851
we think she may have traveled from Liverpool to Victoria arrived between 1869 t0 1871
Settled in Fitzroy Melbourne and married John James Beresford Bowman on 1872 Mr bowman passed away suddenly in 1879
History has shown Mr Bowman was solicitor and defended Ellen Kelly mother of Ned Kelly outlaw in Jan 1879.
If anyone can help on this it would great
King regards Noeleen
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Noeleen, there is no Margaret Josephine Prendergast listed on the Outward to Australian SS Great Britain Lists. But a family of Prendergasts arrived from Liverpool on Voyage 35 which left Liverpool on 19 March 1870 which does not include an M J.
Good Luck - Faith
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Hi Faith.
Thank you for your reply, Where does one look from here ? I don't know if ships left from Queenstown ( Cobh ) Ireland for Australia. There seems to be so many ships left Liverpool and London. Have you any advice where to start.
Many thanks for your search
Kind regards Noeleen
Ps if I may wish you and yours a very Happy Christmas
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Hi Noeleen
I haven't got the sites at my fingertips but drag through the Australian Board on Rootschat as I'm sure so many having been using useful sites and you may see what you want there.
After that, if nothing turns up then post a query. The Arrivals are well documented for those we have searched for. Where are you - in UK or Australia as the Australian Papers had a wonderful Shipping News column which so often, as you have a small time frame to search, gave passenger names, admittedly sometimes Steerage were all lumped together.
I'm no expert but I would be sure to say that most Irish left from Liverpool as I know my Isle of Man immigrants went there to get a ship. Unless there was some reason to be in London and leave from there.
Good Luck - Faith
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my great grandfather did 2 trips to quebec on the SS Great Britain 1867 at that time the Captain was by the name of Chiliott
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I am looking for two brothers (of my G-G-Grandfather) with the surname Newton that traveled from Liverpool England to Australia in the 1858- 1864 time frame.
My Great-Great Grandfather was Born Jan 2 1846, At the age of 16, Samuel Charles Newton came to the US in 1862 from Cornwall England? He came with the Bath family who settled in the Auburn Nebraska area.
I know that the surname Newton was listed on the SS Great Britain passenger list, I am assuming that these brothers would have been older late teens early twenties, my guess traveling by themselves.
Thank you for any help
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Are you still looking for info on ssGB passenger lists? I recently started volunteering there, and should be able to check in the New Year.
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Hello edswfs
Your message re Passengers on the S.S. Great Britain did not reach me till today.
I have a copy of 'Is Yours An S.S. Great Britain Family' and there are 23 under the name of Newton listed - some obviously families as they are all on the same passage number. If you let me know the christian names of the Newtons you are seeking let me know so I can identify them.
Faith Green
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Hello Barrie,
i have a query on the SS Great Britain on the McClure brothers who moved from Magheranappin in County Donegal Ireland about 1868. They are said to have been to New Zealand and finally landed in Victoria. A Samuel McClure appears on the 1868 passenger list. Could you please check your book and see if any McClures on the passenger lists have an Irish note? The brothers were William, David, Samuel and Robert McClure.
cheers
Jack Gee
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Hello Jack
There are 7 McClure names and 6 of those, all Irish, all came out on the S S Great Britain on voyage 32 which left Liverpool on 9 July 1868 and after a trip of 58 days arrived in Melbourne.
They were - McClure, Miss Mary 30 yrs, no occupation, Samuel 23 yrs Farmer, Sarah 18 yrs, no occupation, Thomas 16 yrs, Gardener, William 50 yrs, no occupation and Rachel 50 yrs, no occupation.
On Voyage 41, S S Great Britain left Liverpool on 27 October, 1973, after 56 days arrived in Melbourne. William J McClure, 21 yrs, no occupation is listed on this voyage. The ship then went on to Brisbane. No nationality is listed for William J McClure.
I hope this is your family. Contact me if I can help anymore.
Merry Xmas! Faith Green
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Hi Jack - Typo!!
Apologies - Voyage 41 should have the year as 1873 not 1973!!
Goodness - she wasn't a bit seaworthy then!!!!
Faith Green
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Thanks Faith and sorry for the lateness. The two famillies mentioned are not mine. So my McClure voyage is still a mystery.
Jack Gee
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Hi Barrie
HOpe someone is still doing look ups??
I would like a look up please for Giacomo Bombardieri (maybe spelt Bomardiere)
His naturalization papers say he came on the Great Britain in Year 1870 and I am just verifying??
Thanks Michelle
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You can search on the PROV website:
https://prov.vic.gov.au/explore-collection/explore-topic/passenger-records-and-immigration/unassisted-passenger-lists
Two on the Great Britain in 1870, you may find that 'Gial' is actually 'Giac'.
BOMBARDIERE, GIAL
Ship: GREAT BRITAIN; Arrival Year: 1870; Arrival Month: MAY; Age: 26; Origin: -; Master: GRAY JOHN; Origin port code: B; Fiche number: 294; Page of list: 6
BOMBARDIERE, GIOV
Ship: GREAT BRITAIN; Arrival Year: 1870; Arrival Month: MAY; Age: 30; Origin: -; Master: GRAY JOHN; Origin port code: B; Fiche number: 294; Page of list: 6
Unfortunately Ancestry only has the first 3 pages of this manifest but you may find the microfiche in you local library.
Debra :)
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Thank you Dundee
For looking this up . Have now researched and yes have verified Gial is Giacomo.
Much appreciated
I use My Heritage so can't view Ancestry and unfortunately being in Wagga. They don't have this information.
Thanks heaps Michelle