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Title: Doug Smith 1918 - 1989
Post by: mayday on Monday 09 February 09 13:24 GMT (UK)
Hi
Does anyone know where abouts  in Kent Dough Smith (jockey) was born. He also had a brother who was a jockey called Eph Smith 1915-1972. Have had a look on free bmd but birth could be one of many. I am interested where he came from and his address in 1930s and 1940s if anyone out there knows. I know he is related somehow and need to trace back to find connection. Any help much appreciated!

Kind Regards

Jacquie :-\
Title: Re: Doug Smith 1918 - 1989
Post by: Ecneps on Monday 09 February 09 14:09 GMT (UK)
Hi Jacquie

There is an autobiography: "Five Times Champion - the Autobiography of Doug Smith" by Peter Willett and Doug Smith (1986)
It's probably out of print but your local library may have it, and there's one for sale on a shopping website

Barbara  :)
Title: Re: Doug Smith 1918 - 1989
Post by: casalguidi on Monday 09 February 09 14:30 GMT (UK)
There is an obituary in "The Times" 14 Aug 1972 - to summarise:

Eric Eph SMITH - his father was a point to point rider who farmed at Shottesbrooke near Maidenhead (Berkshire).  Eric had two brothers, Charles & Douglas who were all born there.

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com - possibly Eric E SMITH birth registered June quarter 1915 Maidenhead registration district mother's maiden name ROWLES.  Douglas is there 1918 with mother's maiden name as ROWLS.

Casalguidi :)
Title: Re: Doug Smith 1918 - 1989
Post by: mayday on Monday 09 February 09 14:53 GMT (UK)
Hi

Thankyou very much for all your help,to both of your messages. The story goes that they are distant relatives on my grans side. At least I can now look back. I did actually manage to obtain the book 'Five Times Champion'. I think my mums eyesight is failing as she couldnt read the area where Doug Smith was born!

Thankyou once again.

Kind Regards

Jacquie :)
Title: Re: Doug Smith 1918 - 1989
Post by: msfd on Monday 28 November 11 20:13 GMT (UK)
Hi Jacquie,

I stumbled across this forum and yes i know you wrote it about 2 years ago.

However i may be able to help you.  Eph and Doug Smith were my Great Uncles.  Charlie was my Grandfather.

If you want to get in touch then please email me on here.

Hope to speak to you soon.

Thanks

Mark
Title: Re: Doug Smith 1918 - 1989
Post by: Iris ritchie on Sunday 11 August 13 19:25 BST (UK)
Re doug smith. My mother was his cousin and a very close friend.she stayed often at his parents farm and took me many years later to visit his mum and brother Charlie.i met terry who was Charlie's son and would very much like to hear from any other relatives. Iris.
Title: Re: Doug Smith 1918 - 1989
Post by: sarah on Monday 09 September 13 10:09 BST (UK)
Hi Iris,

Welcome to RootsChat and thanks for your postcard, will check to see that Jacqui and Marks email notifications are working ok.

Regards

Sarah :)
Title: Re: Doug Smith 1918 - 1989
Post by: cupidsarrow on Tuesday 10 September 13 11:16 BST (UK)
Hi Iris
Sorry havent replied earlier. My mother was told there was a connection with Doug and Eph Smith,the jockeys with I think 'Smiths' on mums side in Worcestershire/Shropshire area. Here is my email address email address removed by moderator please use private message system . I have a lot of information on mums side of family and perhaps can exchange and hopefully find a common link as have yet not found this. Hope Mark also gets back in touch.

Kind Regards

Jacquie
Title: Re: Doug Smith 1918 - 1989
Post by: Iris ritchie on Sunday 15 September 13 19:28 BST (UK)
 Hi Jacqueline. I'm sorry I am still struggling to get to know how this all works. I would really like to hear more from you but as your email address was deleted I cannot get in touch with you using that. Maybe you know more of  Doug and Eph smiths children. I know Eph had a son called Robin who was studying in edinburgh to become a vet. He stayed sometimes at my grans here in Fife. Please reply if you get this. Kind regards Iris.
Title: Re: Doug Smith 1918 - 1989
Post by: sarah on Sunday 15 September 13 19:45 BST (UK)
Hi Jacquie and Iris,

You can exchange private messages with one another by clicking on the right hand button underneath the profile name. It is the one with a symbol of a piece of paper on it.

Regards

Sarah :)

Title: Re: Doug Smith 1918 - 1989
Post by: Iris ritchie on Sunday 06 October 13 16:25 BST (UK)
Hi Jacqui, sorry I have not emailed you back. Your address was removed from your posting to me.i would love to hear more from you again. I am thinking about getting in touch with pondwood farm in white Waltham to see if I can gather any more information.
Title: Re: Doug Smith 1918 - 1989
Post by: dontb on Friday 13 February 15 19:46 GMT (UK)
Hi. I have also stumbled across this page. Eph and Doug Smith were my grandads cousins. His name was Basil Smith. My Mum remembers them both and I'm really interested in finding any other distant relatives out there. That is if anyone is still looks on this thread :)
Title: Re: Doug Smith 1918 - 1989
Post by: dontb on Friday 13 February 15 19:57 GMT (UK)
Hello Iris. I stumbled across this page whilst looking at family history. My Grandad was Eph and Doug Smiths cousin. His name was Basil Smith. He grew up with them and spent a lot of time at the farm with them.  Im interested in any family history and distant relatives.  My mum knows bit more than me about them all. Hope this message finds you :)
Title: Re: Doug Smith 1918 - 1989
Post by: Iris ritchie on Wednesday 17 June 15 14:56 BST (UK)
Are you still looking into the Smith family from Maidenhead?
Title: Re: Doug Smith 1918 - 1989
Post by: Kazza73 on Thursday 18 April 19 13:15 BST (UK)
Hi, researching family connections and would be grateful to be able to get in touch with Mark Terry’s son, I think his email on here is not working. Can anyone help? Thanks in advance Karen
Title: Re: Doug Smith 1918 - 1989
Post by: pearlds001 on Thursday 25 July 19 21:55 BST (UK)
Eric Eph SMITH - his father was a point to point rider who farmed at Shottesbrooke near Maidenhead (Berkshire).  Eric had two brothers, Charles & Douglas who were all born there

Eph Smith was the elder brother of Doug Smith he died in 1972 and the inquest verdict was misadventure.
The best horse he rode was Blue Peter who in 1939 won the 2000 Guineas,the Derby and the Eclipse stakes,he also rode the controversial Premonition to win the St Leger.
Cathal Finnegan was apprenticed to Vincent O`Brien until 1953 he then became a jump jockey winning the Irish Grand National in 1970 on Garoupe,he sadly drowned in the river Boyne in 1978.



Smith won the British Flat apprentice championship 3 years in a row. The only man to do that. Only one other jockey has won it 3 times - and I've never heard of him - his winning totals are small - it was during WW2. Eph's totals were decent.
Eph was short for Ephraim I think.
Title: Re: Doug Smith 1918 - 1989
Post by: sarah on Friday 26 July 19 15:47 BST (UK)
Hi Karen,

Marks emails look they are working at the moment :)

Regards

Sarah
Title: Re: Doug Smith 1918 - 1989
Post by: Kazza73 on Saturday 25 January 20 12:14 GMT (UK)
Hi Sarah,
I am trying to mail Mark but seem to be struggling to do this 🙄 can you advise? It’s probably really straight forward !
Many thanks
Karen
Title: Re: Doug Smith 1918 - 1989
Post by: Mkid on Saturday 06 June 20 10:22 BST (UK)
Hello.
I wonder if anyone could help me identify this photo I have found. I am sure it is one of the Smith brothers who were jockeys because my husband's uncle Ronald Cyril Smith, a farmer in Maidenhead, was related to them.
Thank you.
Marie