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Title: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Friday 13 February 09 15:11 GMT (UK)
   
   Hello Folks, I'm trying to put together the families:-
           of Elizabeth Ilsley and William Blackall.   Charlotte Ilsley and Charles Weston.

                      Their children:  George  Weston1851    and Sarah Ann Blackall1855
         
                         had  Gran  Florence Louise Weston 1893 Bray.

 I believe Elizabeth and Charlotte were sisters of Thomas Ilsley and Mary Anne Allen

 William Blackall son to William Blackall c1785 and Sarah Drewse c1790 possibly Bisham way...

 Charles Weston to William Weston c1790
                                                  and Mrs Weston? ... possibly Strathfield Saye, Old Basing.

     There is very little, if any queries for Ilsley family in Bray.
    Any info would be much appreciated and gratefully received.

                                    Thank you.  Lesanne.
                     
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Friday 13 February 09 15:24 GMT (UK)


 Have you got this, could be Charles who married Charlotte :)

  Death

Mar 1895 Charles Weston, age 77, Cookham
       Vol 2c  Page 346
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Friday 13 February 09 16:34 GMT (UK)


 Have you got this from 1841?

     HO107 / 12 /3/6/ 7

Thomas Illsley age 50, occ ag lab
Mary Ann Illsley age 45
Frederick Illsley age 20, occ ag lab
Charlotte Illsley age 15
Edward Illsley age 7
Adam Illsley age 5
Jane Witherell age 20
Emely Ann Witherell age 6 months

All b Berkshire

  Address Bray Town, Bray
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Friday 13 February 09 16:44 GMT (UK)
Hi Sue,
Thanks for that..  :D

I'm trying to come from the other direction.
1901 has Sarah Ann Weston nee Blackall in Cox Green, Bray. RG13 1159 30 23

Sarah is 44
Joseph D 11
and Louisa this is Florrie.. 8

I can't see George at the moment and it doesn't say widowed...  ::)
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Friday 13 February 09 17:24 GMT (UK)


 Could this be his death ???.... Doesn't explain where he was in 1901 though

 Dec 1902 George Weston age 53 in Maidenhead
                Vol 2c   Page 252
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Friday 13 February 09 17:36 GMT (UK)


 And this looks like Sarah Ann

  Death
 
March 1930 Sarah A Weston age 76 in Maidenhead
                Vol 2c    Page 533
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Abiam2 on Friday 13 February 09 18:28 GMT (UK)
Hi Lesanne,
I was at school in Maidenhead with an Ilsley.  As far as I know her family were an old Maidenhead family.  They lived in Blackamore Lane and I am in touch with this old schoolfriend.  I can ask her about her family history if you think it might help,
Cheers,
Abiam
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Friday 13 February 09 18:40 GMT (UK)
 1901   RG13 / 1344 / 121 / 7

Robert W Bullard, head, age 38, b Ramsey Huntingdonshire, occ coach builder
Louie wife, age 32 b Taplow Buckinghamshire
Louie dau age 12 b Maidenhead
Charles J son age 1 b Buckinghamshire
Charlotte Weston mother in law, widow, age 72 b Oakley Green

Address 17 Fairview, Hitcham
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Friday 13 February 09 18:46 GMT (UK)


 And here is the marriage :D

Jun 1888 Robert William Bullard to Louie Weston at Cookham
             Vol 2c   Page 725
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Friday 13 February 09 19:04 GMT (UK)


 1891  RG12 / 1005 / 66 / 22

Edward Weston head, widower age 36 b Cookham, occ gen lab
Charles son age 14, b Cookham, occ milk assistant
Emily dau age 11 b Cookham
Daniel son age 8 b Cookham
Jones dau age 7 b Maidenhead
Violet dau age 5 b Maidenhead
Ivy dau age 4 b Cookham
Claud son age 2 b Cookham

  Address 17 Denmark St, Cookham
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Friday 13 February 09 19:14 GMT (UK)


 Here is Edward in 1881   RG11 / 1317 / 21 / 35

Edward Weston head age 27 b Maidenhead, occ baker
Charlotte wife age 23 b Bray
Edward H son age 6 b Bray
Charles A son age 4 b Maidenhead
Lotte E dau age 2 b Maidenhead
Emily E dau age 1 b Maidenhead

   13 Denmark St, Cookham
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Friday 13 February 09 19:31 GMT (UK)
 :-X :-X
Back....
Additional to the 1891 in the same house as Edward Weston Rg 1005 66 22
George 44
Sarah 34
Mary 12
William T
Joseph D 1

Who was Edward Weston married to!!

Abiam Hello... oo Yes plese, if they don't mind.....
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Friday 13 February 09 19:38 GMT (UK)


 Just found it Les ;D ;D

Jun 1876 Edward Weston to Charlotte Green at Cookham
                    Vol 2c   Page 707

    ;D ;D

Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Friday 13 February 09 19:42 GMT (UK)


 Could this be your Jane? 

Dec 1875 Jane Weston to either Frederick Green or Thomas Green at Cookham
               Vol 2c   Page 921

 Could this be a relative of Charlotte married to Edward ???

Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Friday 13 February 09 19:58 GMT (UK)
 8) looking good Sue..

1861 or 1871 should give a clue..

I'll do 61 first.... bbiab
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Friday 13 February 09 20:29 GMT (UK)
1861 Holyport Green all born Bray
George Green 36
Mary Ann 37
James 13
Sophia 11
Frederick 9
George 7
Emily 5
Charlotte 3
Mark 1

Next door Robert 22 & Elenor 21 Ilsley

Can't find Thomas.... ?
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Friday 13 February 09 20:55 GMT (UK)


 Could this be Edwards wife :)

   Death

Dec 1890 Charlotte Weston age 32 at Cookham
                   Vol 2c  Page 261
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Friday 13 February 09 21:06 GMT (UK)
1901   RG13 / 1344 / 121 / 7

Robert W Bullard, head, age 38, b Ramsey Huntingdonshire, occ coach builder
Louie wife, age 32 b Taplow Buckinghamshire
Louie dau age 12 b Maidenhead
Charles J son age 1 b Buckinghamshire
Charlotte Weston mother in law, widow, age 72 b Oakley Green

Address 17 Fairview, Hitcham

This is Charlotte Ilsley.... Charles has died in 1895   

Deaths Mar 1904 
 Weston  Charlotte  76 
Maidenhead  2c 288
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Friday 13 February 09 21:13 GMT (UK)
Hmmm....... I'll file that marriage 1874 for Edward Weston + Hildreth/Hope/Jeffries. It could be anyone of those surnames... I recognize them all.
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Friday 13 February 09 22:09 GMT (UK)
1901   RG13 / 1344 / 121 / 7

Robert W Bullard, head, age 38, b Ramsey Huntingdonshire, occ coach builder
Louie wife, age 32 b Taplow Buckinghamshire
Louie dau age 12 b Maidenhead
Charles J son age 1 b Buckinghamshire
Charlotte Weston mother in law, widow, age 72 b Oakley Green

Address 17 Fairview, Hitcham


 And here is the marriage :D

Jun 1888 Robert William Bullard to Louie Weston at Cookham
 Vol 2c Page 725

This is George Weston's sister... parents Charles Weston & Charlotte Ilsley.... I hope.. ;)
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Friday 13 February 09 22:54 GMT (UK)
Florrie 1893 & Sarah Ann 1855 are in here somewhere.
  What is the girl holding... ?


http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=360812.new   ~Restoration board
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Abiam2 on Friday 13 February 09 23:44 GMT (UK)
Hi Lesanne,
I've sent her an email but she only looks at her computer once a week!  so we'll have to be patient!
cheers,
Abiam
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Saturday 14 February 09 10:55 GMT (UK)


 Great photo Les :D

  This looks like some of your family in 1841 :)

  HO107 / 12 / 5/6/ 7

Richard Wells age 60 b Berkshire
Martha Wells age 60
Henry Ilsley age 25 b Berkshire
Betsy Ilsley age 18 b Berkshire

   Address Blackbird's House, Bray

     
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Saturday 14 February 09 11:21 GMT (UK)

 1871   RG10 / 1291 / 28 / 24


Henry Illsley head age 58, occ farm lab
Betsy wife age 49
James son age 20
Philip son age 14
Jesse son age 10
Sophia dau age 8
Roseeliner age 6
Harry son age 2

   Address Monney Rowe Green, Bray

 Living next door is David Illsley age 68, occ farm lab, wife Susan age 67, and children
 Edmon? age 37 and Susan age 29

 
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Saturday 14 February 09 11:26 GMT (UK)


 And this looks like Henry's Death

Sept 1879 Henry Illsley age 65 in Cookham
              Vol 2c   Page 293

 Cant find Betsy ???
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Saturday 14 February 09 11:32 GMT (UK)


 This looks like marriage

Jun 1841 Henry Illsley and Elizabeth Wells at Cookham
              Vol 6   Page  241
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Saturday 14 February 09 11:43 GMT (UK)


 Great photo Les :D

  This looks like some of your family in 1841 :)

  HO107 / 12 / 5/6/ 7

Richard Wells age 60 b Berkshire
Martha Wells age 60
Henry Ilsley age 25 b Berkshire
Betsy Ilsley age 18 b Berkshire

   Address Blackbird's House, Bray

     

 So this is Betsy/Elizabeth with her parents then, am i right here Les?
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Saturday 14 February 09 11:50 GMT (UK)
Where do the Wells fit in Sue...  ::) Hang on I'll work it out....  :P  :P
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Saturday 14 February 09 12:06 GMT (UK)
Ah, it's Henry that's doing it... Who does he belong to?
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Saturday 14 February 09 12:09 GMT (UK)


 Have you got this from 1841?

     HO107 / 12 /3/6/ 7

Thomas Illsley age 50, occ ag lab
Mary Ann Illsley age 45
Frederick Illsley age 20, occ ag lab
Charlotte Illsley age 15
Edward Illsley age 7
Adam Illsley age 5
Jane Witherell age 20
Emely Ann Witherell age 6 months

All b Berkshire

  Address Bray Town, Bray

 This is the right lot then is it? Will follow this up ;D
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Saturday 14 February 09 12:15 GMT (UK)

 This must be Thomas's death

Sep 1852 Thomas Illsley at Cookham
           Vol 2c  Page 240
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Saturday 14 February 09 12:17 GMT (UK)
It's more than likely there's older children to Thomas and Mary Ann (Allen). I'll have a look about's to see if Thomasc1790 has any siblings... :-\
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Saturday 14 February 09 12:27 GMT (UK)


 1861   RG9 / 753 / 75 / 23

Mary Anne Illsley head age 67 b Bray, occ lab
Martha Illsley dau-in-law age 21 b Cookham
Mary Ann Illsley dau age 12 b Bray

 Mary Anne is down as widow :D
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Saturday 14 February 09 12:32 GMT (UK)


 So how about this death for Mary Ann as i cant find her in 1871 :)

 Mar 1864 Mary Ann Illsley at Cookham
                   Vol 2c  Page 318
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Saturday 14 February 09 12:43 GMT (UK)
 :-\ 1841 Bray hasn't any Older Ilsley's...
                 there's some in Strathfield Saye... The Weston's area..  ::)  ???

Maybe they upsticks and came together...
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Saturday 14 February 09 13:32 GMT (UK)
 :-\ Thomas s/o Richard Ilsley and Elizabeth Lawrence P018591 Bray

Sub entry of Henry Illsley 20/8/1814 S/o same parents...  ::)
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Saturday 14 February 09 15:05 GMT (UK)


 So are these yours Les?

 1841   HO107 / 12 / 5/6/ 7

George Ilsley age 26
Betsy age 20
Harriet age 5
Mary age 3
Betsy age 2
George age 1 month

  All b Berkshire

   Address Blackbirds House, Bray
 
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Saturday 14 February 09 15:15 GMT (UK)
Just got the list Sue. That would be George 1814  ;)

What do you think of Richard birthdate....  ???

and the Mary Ann 1859  ???

1851 Henry 1814(sub)& Elizabeth.. theres a Martha Wills aged 72(1780) could that be our Martha Wells.
If so, they have
Frederick 1844
Martha 1845
Richard1847
James 1850/1
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Saturday 14 February 09 15:21 GMT (UK)


 Did you get my e-mail as well?

 Not sure about those dates Les but if Richard died in 1847 i cant find him in 1841 ???

 
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Saturday 14 February 09 15:33 GMT (UK)
Richard death in Cookham 1847 Mar 6-147
No Elizabeth death in Cookham  ???

Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Saturday 14 February 09 15:35 GMT (UK)

 Have found this one

          1841  HO107 / 12 / 5/7/ 8

Richard Hester age 35
Emma Hester age 30 b Berkshire
Mary Hester age 7
Moses Hester age 5 b Berkshire
Sarah Hester age 2 b Berkshire
Richard Ilsley age 70 b Berkshire

  Address Blackbirds Lane End, Bray
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Saturday 14 February 09 16:07 GMT (UK)
SShhhhssshh !! The Hesters married Cox's....  
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Saturday 14 February 09 19:21 GMT (UK)
Charles Weston parents  :-\

HO107 12 4 3
1841 Bray
William Weston 45
Charlotte 35
Richard 10
Elizabeth 10
Edward 2
Henrietta 6mo

on same page Webb/Lawrence/....etc

poss...  ::)
Wiiliam Weston + Charlotte Ilsley  :o
8th Dec 1814 Strathfield Saye Hants......... M139442

     ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Abiam2 on Sunday 15 February 09 12:05 GMT (UK)
Hi Lesanne,
I have had an almost instant reply!

I'll quote what she says but I don't think it's the right family.  See what you think.



 :) I do not recognise either Elizabeth or Charlotte but I
will definitely look into this.   I have just found out that my grandfather
died in 1919 aged 55 and that he and my grandmother are buried in All Saints
cemetery.

My cousin seems to think that my father's family originally came from Tooley
Street in London.   My dad's dad had a muffin shop in Albert Street in
Maidenhead and, as far as I know, when his dad died he lived with his
mother in
St Mark's Road - must have had a one room in a very big house.   My dad
had one
brother called William (Bill) who was obviously named after my grandfather
William Henry Ilsley and one sister called Eleanor known as Nellie or Nell.

Anyway, I will certainly keep you informed if I come across any more news.   :)


Just went to put in quote marks and the message went!  Hence modification smilies doing the job for me!
A muffin shop that's interesting, but I don't think it's your family.  I seem to remember there was another Ilsley at school and she was from Hurley.  But I know nothing more,
Cheers,
Abaim
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Sunday 15 February 09 14:53 GMT (UK)


1861   RG09 / 855 / 58 / 17

Charles Weston head age 43 b Hampshire, occ miller
Charlotte wife age 32 b Hampshire
George son age 10 b Berkshire
Charles son age 9 b Berkshire
Edward son age 7 b Berkshire
Harriet dau age 5 b Berkshire
Daniel son age 2 b Hampshire

 Address Berry Hill, Taplow, Buckinghamshire

  So they moved to Buckinghamshire ;D
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Sunday 15 February 09 15:15 GMT (UK)


 This may be William in 1891
 
       RG12 / 1003 / 5 / 6

William Weston head age 29 b Taplow, occ gen lab
Cecelia M A wife age 31 b Bray
Charles E son age 11 b North Town, Berkshire

Address Bray
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Sunday 15 February 09 15:22 GMT (UK)


  Les..... think this is William's marriage

Dec 1878  William Weston to Selina Mary A Illsley at Eton
               Vol 3a  Page 775


 Think Cecelia should have been Selina ;D ;D
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Sunday 15 February 09 15:38 GMT (UK)

 And here they are in 1901

    RG13 / 1159 / 20 / 4

William Weston head age 41 b Taplow, occ gen lab
Selina wife age 42 b Bray, occ laundress
Harry son age 9 b Bray
Rose dau age 6 b Bray

Address 5, Elm Cottages, Bray
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Sunday 15 February 09 15:47 GMT (UK)


 Looks like William died  :o

Jun 1905 William Weston age 45 at Maidenhead
              Vol 2c Page 240

Couldn't see a death for Selina ::)
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Sunday 15 February 09 16:04 GMT (UK)
Berry Hill, Taplow.   :) Country Club there now or was in the 80's...
In the River Thames, there's a corn mill at Taplow.

Maidenhead on one side of the bridge~ Berks. Taplow Bucks on otherside.

But just to confuse they extended the Berks boundry to include Taplow/Slough sometime in the 1970's.

So Charles was a miller in Hants.

Did he come from a family of Millers.  ???
Did the Ilsley's live close by as it seems he married Ilsley as well.  ::)  ???

Selina Laundress...  :P Is she in that photo  8)
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Sunday 15 February 09 16:16 GMT (UK)


 Pleased your back and work fin for today :D

  Ok ....... looks like Selina married again :o

Dec 1908 Selina Mary A Weston to either Harry Honour or Josiah William Stevenson at Maidenhead
                  Vol  2c   Page 986
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Sunday 15 February 09 16:20 GMT (UK)
Opps ... meant to say Charles father, he married Charlotte Ilsley as well....  :o
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Sunday 15 February 09 17:20 GMT (UK)

 Have found this one

          1841  HO107 / 12 / 5/7/ 8

Richard Hester age 35
Emma Hester age 30 b Berkshire
Mary Hester age 7
Moses Hester age 5 b Berkshire
Sarah Hester age 2 b Berkshire
Richard Ilsley age 70 b Berkshire

  Address Blackbirds Lane End, Bray


 

  Been trying to find out what Richard was doing with this family :)

 IGI has Richard Hester narried to Emma Illsley, 19 Aug 1833 in Bray :o
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Sunday 15 February 09 17:28 GMT (UK)
Did we do anymore on Hester's...  Only.. ;D  ;D I have this cert....  ::)

1903 13 April Gt Marlow Bucks

Ernest George Hester 27 (c1876)   Bach   Coal Mer    Gt Marlow   Stephen Hester
Letitia Louisa Cox       30  (c1873) Spin     Dom serv    M'head     William Cox (desc)

Wit's  Ernest Howard     Annie Hester   George Ellis Baker
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Sunday 15 February 09 17:34 GMT (UK)


 Oh...... Just found that marriage on FreeBMD ;D ;D

 Is that all you have on Hesters Les?
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Sunday 15 February 09 17:39 GMT (UK)
Yes, for sure anyway...  :-\  I got so confused with the Cox's.... and been trying to sort them ever since....
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Sunday 15 February 09 17:48 GMT (UK)


  Well going by Letitia's age this could be her fathers marriage

Sep 1860 Stephen Hester to Jane Plumbridge at Wycombe
                 Vol   3a   Page 493
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Sunday 15 February 09 17:55 GMT (UK)
 ;) George Hester's parents....  ;) 

There's that Plumridge name....  ???
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Sunday 15 February 09 18:02 GMT (UK)

 Well looks like the marriage is the right one Les :D

  1891    RG12 / 1140 / 97 / 38

Stephen Hester head age 52 b Stokenchurch, Oxfordshire, occ shepherd
Jane wife age 53 b Cadmore End, Buckinghamshire, occ lace maker
Frederick J son, single, age 29 B Cadmore End, occ ag lab
Ernest G son age 15 b Chesham, Buckinghamshire, occ shepherds assistant
Mary J dau age 13 b Medmenham, Buckinghamshire

  Address Cottages Hawkins Farm, Marlow Common, Great Marlow
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Sunday 15 February 09 18:07 GMT (UK)
 :D Well done Sue, thats them....  8)
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Sunday 15 February 09 18:11 GMT (UK)

  Jane's death :)

Dec 1904 Jane Hester age 67 at Wycombe
                Vol  3a  Page 492

 And possibly Stephen's

Sep 1922 Stephen Hester age 85 at Wycombe
                Vol  3a   Page 770
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Sunday 15 February 09 18:14 GMT (UK)
Frederick James Hester Mar 1862 Wyc 3a /?

Could be an older child   ::)
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Sunday 15 February 09 18:36 GMT (UK)


  And here they are in 1901

  RG13 / 1350 / 15 / 22

Stephen Hester head age 62 b Stokenchurch, occ gen lab
Jane wife age 63 b Marlow
Annie dau, single age 37 b Cadmore End
Ernest G son, single age 25 b Chesham, occ gen lab
  And 4 boarders

  Address West Street, Marlow Urban
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Sunday 15 February 09 18:42 GMT (UK)
There's an Emma Jane Hester born Eton Mar 1860 3a 387

  :(  also a death Sept 1860

Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Sunday 15 February 09 18:44 GMT (UK)
Dec 1878  William Weston to Selina Mary A Illsley at Eton
               Vol 3a  Page 775

Marriages Jun 1900
 
Baker  George Ellis   
Hester  Mary Jane     Wycombe  3a 1318   
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Sunday 15 February 09 19:04 GMT (UK)
Did we do anymore on Hester's...  Only.. ;D  ;D I have this cert....  ::)

1903 13 April Gt Marlow Bucks

Ernest George Hester 27 (c1876)   Bach   Coal Mer    Gt Marlow   Stephen Hester
Letitia Louisa Cox       30  (c1873) Spin     Dom serv    M'head     William Cox (desc)

Wit's  Ernest Howard     Annie Hester   George Ellis Baker

 Annie the witness....... Looks like she is the one on 1901
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Sunday 15 February 09 19:16 GMT (UK)
oo missed that Sue...   :-[

Annie Hester  Sept 1863 Wycombe 3a 385

Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Sunday 15 February 09 19:35 GMT (UK)


 Could this be Stephen in 1851?

       HO107 / 1725 / 457 / 6

Eliza Hester head age 39 b Nuffield, Oxfordshire, occ pauper, ag lab
William son age 12 b Nuffield
Charlotte dau age 10 b Nuffield
Stephen son age 8 b Nuffield
Eliza dau age 6 b Nuffield
Jane dau age 1 b Nuffield

Eliza is a widow Les :)
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Sunday 15 February 09 19:42 GMT (UK)


 And in 1841

    HO107 / 881 / 19/5/ 5

George Hester age 25, occ ag lab
Eliza Hester age 28
William Hester age 2
Charlotte Hester age 1

 All b Oxfordshire

   Address Huntercombe End, Nuffield

 Just rechecked 1851 and they were living at this address then as well :D :D
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Sunday 15 February 09 20:30 GMT (UK)
And here they are in 1901
RG13 / 1350 / 15 / 22

Stephen Hester head age 62 b Stokenchurch, occ gen lab
Jane wife age 63 b Marlow
Annie dau, single age 37 b Cadmore End
Ernest G son, single age 25 b Chesham, occ gen lab
 And 4 boarders

 Address West Street, Marlow Urban

Is Stokenchuuch  near Nuffield ?

What are the boarders names... I'll go find that image...  8)
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Sunday 15 February 09 20:43 GMT (UK)


Here are the boarders Les ;D

Thomas J Mayne boarder age 29, single b Grandborough, Buckinghamshire, occ plumber
William Early boarder age 17, single, b Sydenham, London, occ plumber assistant
Frank Elworthy boarder, age 25, single, b Ilfracombe, Devonshire, occ plumber assistant
Henry R May boarder, married, age 39 b Elvetham, Hampshire, occ plumber assistant

    :D :D
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Sunday 15 February 09 20:46 GMT (UK)
 ;D  Plumbing shop then.......  ;D
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: toni* on Monday 16 February 09 08:37 GMT (UK)
bookmarking
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: toni* on Monday 16 February 09 09:33 GMT (UK)
do you think possibly that they could have originated in Ilsley?
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: toni* on Monday 16 February 09 09:34 GMT (UK)
in case of interest
http://www.brazell.net/genuki/BRK/Gaz1868.html
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: toni* on Monday 16 February 09 09:42 GMT (UK)
Thomas Ilsley of Reading St Mary and Jane Hyde of Reading St Giles D/P ...... Mark Andrews (Blower deleted) of Bray and Mary Ann Scott of Reading St Giles, ...
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/A2A/records.aspx?cat=005-dp96&cid=-1&Gsm=2008-06-18

The National Archives | Access to ArchivesThomas Ilsley of Reading St Mary and Jane Hyde of Reading St Giles D/P ...... Mark Andrews (Blower deleted) of Bray and Mary Ann Scott of Reading St Giles, ...
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/A2A/records.aspx?cat=005-dp96&cid=-1&Gsm=2008-06-18

The National Archives | Access to ArchivesLetter from Edwd Ilsley to My dear Provost Bagnall Z6/2/3/12/1/7/1 6 Jul 1880 ...... Addressed from Bray. Co. Wicklow, [Ireland], to the [Very] Revd Mr ...
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/A2A/records.aspx?cat=1480-z6_1&cid=-1&Gsm=2008-06-18

The National Archives | Access to Archives... merchant and manufacturer, John Brook Bray of Brantingham, gentleman 2) ...... Field awarded to George Dickon Witnesses: John Benson and Charles Ilsley ...
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/A2A/records.aspx?cat=047-ddcl_2-1&cid=-1&Gsm=2008-06-18
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: toni* on Monday 16 February 09 09:47 GMT (UK)
if you go to British History Online and search terms 'Ilsley'
then there is a wealth of information on the parishes of East & West Ilsley but also this

Items from the Gaol Delivery Register - Temp. James I
... Midd.; William Ilsley gentleman, Edmund Yates esq., John Cole gentleman, Walter
Ilsley gentleman, Katherine Ilsley spinster, and Alexander Fettyplace gentleman ...

and more  :)
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: toni* on Monday 16 February 09 11:24 GMT (UK)
do you have Thomas Frederick Ilsley?

1871
RG10;  1402;  104;  2;


TFI head 55 labourer b. Bray
Jane wife 56 b. Harwell

residing Turnpike Rd Hitcham next door  to Cox family



Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: toni* on Monday 16 February 09 11:44 GMT (UK)
just looking at Ilsley b. Bray
as i'mnot finding anything of use under any of the maes you have given  ::)

so the census as follows

1871
RG10; 1402; 105;  4; Joseph, Alice & Alice
(Thomas Fredk (& Jane) as before)

1861
 RG9; 753;  96;  9; Robert & Eleanor

1851
HO107;  1694;  91;  11 Henry & family
HO107; 1694;  91;  11 David & family
HO107;  1694;  99; 26; George & family
HO107;  1694; 90;  9; Fred, & family
HO107;  1694;  97;  22; Harriet as servant
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: toni* on Monday 16 February 09 11:51 GMT (UK)
Mary Ann Gibbs here seems to have been an Ilsley at one point
RG11 1272;  51;  13;

there is also a Flitter connection in that census ref and
then we have Sarah Flitter here who also seems to have been an Ilsley
RG11; 1272;  50; 11;

with mother Hannah
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: toni* on Monday 16 February 09 11:57 GMT (UK)
not many Ilsley events in Cookham (reg dist.)


Marriages Sep 1845 
ILSLEY  Eliza    Cookham  6 221   


Marriages Jun 1846   
Ilsley  Betsy     Cookham  6 237   


Deaths Jun 1850   
ILSLEY  James     Cookham  6 113   


Marriages Dec 1850   
Ilsley  Charlotte     Cookham  6 313    (Charles Weston on same page)
Ilsley  Harriet     Cookham  6 311 (Joseph Holloway on same page)



no births  :-\
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: toni* on Monday 16 February 09 12:15 GMT (UK)
i see you have most of what i found re the Ilsleys (thats what its like playing catch up )

so

Did we do anymore on Hester's...  Only.. ;D  ;D I have this cert....  ::)

1903 13 April Gt Marlow Bucks

Ernest George Hester 27 (c1876)   Bach   Coal Mer    Gt Marlow   Stephen Hester
Letitia Louisa Cox       30  (c1873) Spin     Dom serv    M'head     William Cox (desc)

Wit's  Ernest Howard     Annie Hester   George Ellis Baker

LLCox 1891 servant in Clapham (Home and Parlourmaid b. Brixton slightly older than marriage cert!)
RG12;  443;  98; 34;

did Sue find Ernest previous?

er not sure if this is relevant
1881
"Late Shorditch Industrial Sch Brentwood"
Letita Cox b. 1870 (so same as 1891)
inmate at industrial school b. Hackney
RG11;  1757;  106;  8;





Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: toni* on Monday 16 February 09 12:16 GMT (UK)
again not sure if its relevant
1871
RG10;  507;  20; 34;

Letitia Cox aged 9 months


grandaughter of Richard & Sarah
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Monday 16 February 09 14:42 GMT (UK)

 Have we had this from 1891?

       RG12 / 1005 / 65 / 20

Charles Weston head age 73, b Old Basing, Hampshire, occ corn dealer
Charlotte wife age 62 b Bray
Daniel son, single age 32 b Old Basing, occ gardiners lab
Thomas son, single, age 25 b Taplow, occ gen lab
Edward Weston boarder age 16, b ? Berkshire, occ bakers assistant
Charlotte Weston boarder, age 12, b / Berkshire

  Address 1 Denmark St, Cookham

   Hi Toni :D :D

Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Monday 16 February 09 16:38 GMT (UK)

 And here's Daniel in 1901

    RG13 / 1161 / 15 / 21

Daniel Weston head, age 41, b Basingstoke, occ Navvy ground worker
Lucy wife, age 41, b Maidenhead
Martha dau age 12 b Maidenhead
Baby Weston son age 8 days b Maidenhead
Agnes Andrews step dau, age 16 b Maidenhead
Louisa L Green  niece, single, age 19 b Maidenhead

  Address 5 Providence Place, Maidenhead

Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Monday 16 February 09 16:45 GMT (UK)
  :o  ooo Sue. The Baston's have Green and Andrews.  ;D
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Monday 16 February 09 16:46 GMT (UK)
  And here is the marriage

Mar 1897 Daniel Weston and Lucy Andrews at Maidenhead
                  Vol 2c  Page 615
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Tuesday 17 February 09 11:54 GMT (UK)

 Have found this marriage  for you  :D

 Jun 1906 Edward Henry G Weston to Agnes Matilda Andrews at Maidenhead
                  Vol 2c   Page 900
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Tuesday 17 February 09 12:23 GMT (UK)

  Have found this marriage Les :)

  Mar 1896 at Basingstoke

Alice Louisa Andrews
Effie Button
Thomas Kimber
CHARLES THOMAS WESTON

 I checked census and Thomas Kimber married Effie Button

     
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Tuesday 17 February 09 12:50 GMT (UK)

 Have we had this marriage Les?

Jun 1891 Henry Weston to Harriet Baston at Reading
            Vol 2c   Page 667
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Tuesday 17 February 09 12:57 GMT (UK)
No not that one..
Have Henry Weston b 1863 bray

No Harriet Baston in either tree  :-\
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Tuesday 17 February 09 13:00 GMT (UK)

 Here they are in 1901 :)

  RG13 / 1151 / 41 / 28

Henry Weston head, age 34, b Linkenhalt, Hampshire, occ biscuit factory lab
Harriet wife, age 32 b East Woodhay, Hampshire
Emily dau, age 9, b Reading
Reginald son, age 8, b Reading
Francis son, age 5, b Reading
Hilda dau, age 3, b Reading
Elsie dau, age 2, b Reading
William son, age 1, b Reading

Address 80 Foxhill Road, Reading St Giles
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Tuesday 17 February 09 13:24 GMT (UK)
Funny we have Bastons coming in from Hampshire as well, although a bit later than the Berks/Oxford ones.

8 12 1814 Strathfield  Hants William Weston and Charlotte Ilsley

They had Charles 1816 in Hants then moved to Bucks Taplow? I can't find that post...  :-\

Charlotte Ilsley Snr having a look on IGI...
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Tuesday 17 February 09 13:41 GMT (UK)

 Is this them in 1841?

   HO107 / 385 /9/5/ 4

William Weston age 50, occ ag lab
Charlotte Weston age 50
Mary Weston age 25
Charles Weston age 20, occ miller
Daniel Weston age 13
Alfred Weston age 2 months

  All b Hampshire

   Address By the canel, Basingstoke
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Tuesday 17 February 09 13:57 GMT (UK)


1861   RG09 / 855 / 58 / 17

Charles Weston head age 43 b Hampshire, occ miller
Charlotte wife age 32 b Hampshire
George son age 10 b Berkshire
Charles son age 9 b Berkshire
Edward son age 7 b Berkshire
Harriet dau age 5 b Berkshire
Daniel son age 2 b Hampshire

 Address Berry Hill, Taplow, Buckinghamshire

  So they moved to Buckinghamshire ;D

  Is this the post Les?
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Tuesday 17 February 09 14:02 GMT (UK)
That's it, yes... Well done Sue.

It looks like  Hants  Strathfield/  Berks Bray/  Bucks Taplow at t'mill.

I'm looking for a mill by the canal in Basingstoke.  ::) Charles is a miller before he married Charlotte Ilsley jnr

Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Tuesday 17 February 09 14:09 GMT (UK)

 Ok im confused ??? 

   1851   HO107 / 1681 / 114 / 23

Charlotte Weston head, wid, age 64, b Basing, occ pauper, w of ag lab
Daniel Weston son, age 22, b Basing, occ ag lab

  I would say this is Charlotte wife of William in 1841, do you agree Les?
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Tuesday 17 February 09 14:22 GMT (UK)


 So who is this ???  Or am i wrong in 1851 as Charlottes age is out :-\

  1851   HO107 / 1681 / 385 / 23..... living in Stratfield Saye

William Illsley head, age 38, b Stratfield Saye, occ ag lab
Mary Ann wife, age 36, b Stratfield Saye
Alfred son, age 8, b Old Basing
Charles son, age 10 months, b Old Basing
James Yates lodger, age 27, b Bramley, Hampshire
Jane Yates lodger, age 26, b Stratfield Saye
Samuel Yates lodger, age 1, b Stratfield Saye
CHARLOTTE WESTON lodger, wid,age 63 b Stratfield Saye
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Tuesday 17 February 09 14:34 GMT (UK)


 In 1861... in Stratfield Saye

  RG9 / 710 / 60 / 4

William Illsley head, age 48, b Stratfield Saye, occ ag lab
Mary Ann wife, age 46, b Stratfield Saye
Robert Illsley brother, age 47 b Stratfield Saye, occ tailor
Charlotte Weston step mother,age 72 b Stratfield Saye 

 
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Tuesday 17 February 09 15:12 GMT (UK)
Was Charlotte snr married to an Ilsley B4 she married William Weston?

Has she been put down twice?

Could step mother mean William Isley is A nephew?
                                                                B Stepson from previous marriage?

Bramley.... Are Yates related?

T up.  ;D

Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Tuesday 17 February 09 15:15 GMT (UK)


 This looks like William's death

Mar 1844 William Weston at Basingstoke
         Vol 7   Page 43
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Tuesday 17 February 09 15:17 GMT (UK)


 Oh..... here is Charlotte's death

Jun 1864 Charlotte Weston at Basingstoke
           Vol 2c  Page 110
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Tuesday 17 February 09 16:30 GMT (UK)
This is a guess... but Bramley C136571 has a Charlotte Ilsley15 Dec 1789 To William and Anne..

What do you think ?     I'll see what Yates are about...(James and Jane )
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Tuesday 17 February 09 16:36 GMT (UK)
What about this marriage... looks pretty good  ..  :-\

Marriages Dec 1849 
 
Ilsley  Jane     
Yeates  James     

Basingstoke  7 141



 So who is this ??? Or am i wrong in 1851 as Charlottes age is out :-\

 1851 HO107 / 1681 / 385 / 23..... living in Stratfield Saye

William Illsley head, age 38, b Stratfield Saye, occ ag lab
Mary Ann wife, age 36, b Stratfield Saye
Alfred son, age 8, b Old Basing
Charles son, age 10 months, b Old Basing
James Yates lodger, age 27, b Bramley, Hampshire
Jane Yates lodger, age 26, b Stratfield Saye
Samuel Yates lodger, age 1, b Stratfield Saye

CHARLOTTE WESTON lodger, wid,age 63 b Stratfield Saye

Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Tuesday 17 February 09 17:00 GMT (UK)


 Les...... I cant find the Charlotte who is living with Illsley family, in 1841 ???
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Tuesday 17 February 09 17:05 GMT (UK)

 Is this them in 1841?

   HO107 / 385 /9/5/ 4

William Weston age 50, occ ag lab
Charlotte Weston age 50
Mary Weston age 25
Charles Weston age 20, occ miller
Daniel Weston age 13
Alfred Weston age 2 months

  All b Hampshire

   Address By the canel, Basingstoke

This was them wasn't it.......... o'eck....  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Tuesday 17 February 09 17:11 GMT (UK)

  Dont think this helps much ::)

  1841   HO107 / 386 / 23/8/ 11

Richard Ilsley age 55
Elizabeth Ilsley age 29
William Ilsley age 28
Joe Ilsley age 22
Charles Ilsley age 15
Caroline Kirby age 16
Henry May age 15
David Lavington age 14

  All b Hampshire

     Address Lavell Farm, Stratford Saye

Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Tuesday 17 February 09 17:24 GMT (UK)
Richard Ilsley c1784 could be Charlottec1796snr's brother.......  :-\
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Tuesday 17 February 09 17:25 GMT (UK)
We have Richard c1770 + Elizabeth Lawrence Grandparents to Charlotte1828 jnr
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Tuesday 17 February 09 18:47 GMT (UK)


 Could this be Alfred?  Living in Sherbourne :-\

1851  HO107 / 1681 / 287 / 5

John Myland head, age 30, b Sherbourne, Hampshire, occ brick maker
Charlotte wife, age 26, b Sherbourne
Emma dau, age 1, b Sherbourne
ALFRED WESTON nephew, age 9 b Pamber, Hampshire ???
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Tuesday 17 February 09 18:54 GMT (UK)


 What do you think Les ;D

Marriage Mar 1848 in Basingstoke, ... names on page

Jane Challies
Rose Cooper
William Dibley
Charles Miles
JOHN MYLAND
Jane Taphouse
CHARLOTTE WESTON
George Wild



Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Tuesday 17 February 09 18:59 GMT (UK)


 In 1861 Alfred Weston b abt 1842,  Basingstoke is a servant living in Chobham, Surrey.

 He is with a family.... Frederick and Eliza Ottaway and their 2 children. Also 1 other servant.
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Tuesday 17 February 09 19:01 GMT (UK)


 So who is this ??? Or am i wrong in 1851 as Charlottes age is out :-\

1851 HO107 / 1681 / 385 / 23..... living in Stratfield Saye

William Illsley head, age 38, b Stratfield Saye, occ ag lab
Mary Ann wife, age 36, b Stratfield Saye
Alfred son, age 8, b Old Basing
Charles son, age 10 months, b Old Basing
James Yates lodger, age 27, b Bramley, Hampshire
Jane Yates lodger, age 26, b Stratfield Saye
Samuel Yates lodger, age 1, b Stratfield Saye
CHARLOTTE WESTON lodger, wid,age 63 b Stratfield Saye


Must be another Charlotte/ Alfred combo.... dunno who's her parents....
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Tuesday 17 February 09 19:13 GMT (UK)
 :o  Marriages Sep 1844   
 
ILSLEY  William   
WESTON  Mary   

 Basingstoke  7 99

Is this the marriage of the family above...  :-\
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Tuesday 17 February 09 19:17 GMT (UK)

 This looks like Charlotte's parents in 1841

           HO107 / 386 / 10/8/ 11

John Weston age 85, occ lab
Mary Weston age 25
Olive Weston age 20
Charlotte Weston age 15
William Weston age 1

 All b Hampshire

      Address Pollards End, Sherbourne

  Looks like a Benjamin Weston age 40, wife Ann, age 40, and 3 children live a couple of

  doors away :)
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Tuesday 17 February 09 19:29 GMT (UK)



  That marriage looks good Les ;D ;D ;D

  We just need to link this family with the ones in Bray ::)
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Tuesday 17 February 09 19:32 GMT (UK)

 Is this them in 1841?

   HO107 / 385 /9/5/ 4

William Weston age 50, occ ag lab
Charlotte Weston age 50
Mary Weston age 25
Charles Weston age 20, occ miller
Daniel Weston age 13
Alfred Weston age 2 months

  All b Hampshire

   Address By the canel, Basingstoke

This was them wasn't it.......... o'eck....  ;D  ;D


  Les i have been doing this family......are we doing same family ???

 
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Tuesday 17 February 09 21:11 GMT (UK)


  1871   RG10 / 1234 / 66 / 1

Daniel Weston head, age 43, b Hampshire
Margaret wife, age 49, b Scotland

  Address Wote Street, Basingstoke
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Tuesday 17 February 09 21:24 GMT (UK)


1861   RG09 / 855 / 58 / 17

Charles Weston head age 43 b Hampshire, occ miller
Charlotte wife age 32 b Hampshire
George son age 10 b Berkshire
Charles son age 9 b Berkshire
Edward son age 7 b Berkshire
Harriet dau age 5 b Berkshire
Daniel son age 2 b Hampshire

 Address Berry Hill, Taplow, Buckinghamshire

  So they moved to Buckinghamshire ;D

  Is this the post Les?

 And this has to be Charles from 1841 son of William and Charlotte ;D
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Tuesday 17 February 09 21:43 GMT (UK)

 Is this them in 1841?

   HO107 / 385 /9/5/ 4

William Weston age 50, occ ag lab
Charlotte Weston age 50                age rounded down from 53 ?
Mary Weston age 25
Charles Weston age 20, occ miller
Daniel Weston age 13
Alfred Weston age 2 months

  All b Hampshire

   Address By the canel, Basingstoke


 So who is this ??? Or am i wrong in 1851 as Charlottes age is out :-\

 1851 HO107 / 1681 / 385 / 23..... living in Stratfield Saye

William Illsley head, age 38, b Stratfield Saye, occ ag lab
Mary Ann wife, age 36, b Stratfield Saye              nee Weston sept 1844 see#113
Alfred son, age 8, b Old Basing
Charles son, age 10 months, b Old Basing
James Yates lodger, age 27, b Bramley, Hampshire
Jane Yates lodger, age 26, b Stratfield Saye
Samuel Yates lodger, age 1, b Stratfield Saye
CHARLOTTE WESTON lodger, wid,age 63 b Stratfield Saye widow of William Weston



 Ok im confused ???

 1851 HO107 / 1681 / 114 / 23

Charlotte Weston head, wid, age 64, b Basing, occ pauper, w of ag lab  2x return's
Daniel Weston son, age 22, b Basing, occ ag lab

 I would say this is Charlotte wife of William in 1841, do you agree Les?


 In 1861... in Stratfield Saye

 RG9 / 710 / 60 / 4

William Illsley head, age 48, b Stratfield Saye, occ ag lab
Mary Ann wife, age 46, b Stratfield Saye
Robert Illsley brother, age 47 b Stratfield Saye, occ tailor
Charlotte Weston step mother,age 72 b Stratfield Saye         Why step mother???

 

Brought them forward.......... ???
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Tuesday 17 February 09 22:00 GMT (UK)
 ;D Got it... Charlotte is Mary Ann's mother..........  8)
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Tuesday 17 February 09 22:09 GMT (UK)


  Sooooooooo  pleased........ can both sleep tonight now ;D ;D

  Makes sense when its laid out :)   Well Done Les... i couldnt work it out ;D ;D


   Nite :)
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Tuesday 17 February 09 22:14 GMT (UK)
 ;D Look at these sibs...


William Ilsley, Mother: Ann

C136571
1. CHARLOTTE ILSLEY -
 15 DEC 1789 Bramley, Hampshire
 
 2. DANIEL ILSLEY -
10 MAR 1796 Bramley, Hampshire

 3. CHARLES ILSLEY -
 18 JUN 1776 Bramley, Hampshire
 
 4. RICHARD ILSLEY - 
29 JAN 1779 Bramley, Hampshire
 
 5. WILLIAM ILLSLEY -
JAN 1778 Bramley, Hampshire
 
 6. THOMAS ILSLEY -
17 AUG 1787 Bramley, Hampshire
 
 7. JOHN ILSLEY -
05 JAN 1792 Bramley, Hampshire


 
 
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Tuesday 17 February 09 22:19 GMT (UK)
Parents marriage..  :D

William Ilsley and Anne Eckett
11 April 1776 Sherbourne St John Hants.
M014041
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: toni* on Wednesday 18 February 09 10:21 GMT (UK)
does this fit in?

Bramley G....;

James Ilsley 69  Ag Lab
Hannah 54 
George  27 
Martha  25 
Ann 11 

 all born in county except Martha

 
 HO107; Piece 385;  13;    6;  7
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: toni* on Wednesday 18 February 09 10:28 GMT (UK)
you can prob. work back through IGI with the Ilsley in Bramley


seems James just lived in Bramley  :-\

James & Hannah 1851

HO107;  1681  321;  16;

James Ilsley head 79  Farm Labourer b. Sherborne Hants
Hannah  wife 72  b. Bramley
George  son 37  b. do.
Martha  dau. in law 35 b. Newbury   
Martha  grand dau. 8 b. bramley
Thomas Haines 79 lodger widower annuiant b. Silchester 
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: toni* on Wednesday 18 February 09 10:31 GMT (UK)
and to confirm James p.o.b


JAMES ILLSLEY
 Christening:  12 FEB 1792   Sherborne Saint John, Hampshire,   
Father:  JOHN ILLSLEY
  Mother:  MARY 

several siblings for James


JOHN ILSLEY -  25 MAR 1785 Sherborne Saint John,
 
 MARY ANN ILLSLEY -  11 JUL 1790 
CHARLES ILSLEY -  10 SEP 1786 
JOEL ILLSLEY - 09 APR 1789 
GEORGE ILSLEY -  15 NOV 1795 
WILLIAM ILLSLEY -  16 NOV 1783 
 THS. ILLSLEY -  06 DEC 1787 
EDMUND ILLSLEY - 03 SEP 1782 
 
(JAMES ILLSLEY -  12 FEB 1792)

Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: toni* on Wednesday 18 February 09 10:42 GMT (UK)
;D Look at these sibs...


William Ilsley, Mother: Ann

C136571
1. CHARLOTTE ILSLEY -
 15 DEC 1789 Bramley, Hampshire
 
 2. DANIEL ILSLEY -
10 MAR 1796 Bramley, Hampshire

 3. CHARLES ILSLEY -
 18 JUN 1776 Bramley, Hampshire
 
 4. RICHARD ILSLEY - 
29 JAN 1779 Bramley, Hampshire
 
 5. WILLIAM ILLSLEY -
JAN 1778 Bramley, Hampshire
 
 6. THOMAS ILSLEY -
17 AUG 1787 Bramley, Hampshire
 
 7. JOHN ILSLEY -
05 JAN 1792 Bramley, Hampshire

so Ilsley marriages M136571

 1. EDMUND ILSLEY -  26 SEP 1783 SARAH TURNER
 
 2. JAMES ILSLEY -  10 OCT 1800 HANNAH HAINES
(this is James from Sherborne from before)
 
 3. HARRIET ILSLEY  02 NOV 1820 JAMES LAMDIN
 
 4. DAVID ILSLEY -  28 JUL 1828 SARAH GAINS
 
 5. NANNY ILSLEY -  19 AUG 1787 SAMUEL GOODYER
 
 6. LUCY ILSLEY - 10 MAY 1773 WILLIAM MAY
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Wednesday 18 February 09 17:41 GMT (UK)
 Hi Les,

           Here is George in 1881 ;D

        RG11 / 1314 / 97 / 8

George Blackall, head, age 35, b Bray, occ gen lab
Mary Ann Blackall, wife, age 40, b Oxford
Caroline Penn, dau, age 10, b Bray
Rose Blackall, dau, age 5, b Bray
John Blackall, son, age 3, b Bray
George Blackall, son, age 3 , b Bray
Charlotte Blackall, dau, age 0, b Bray

  Address...... Bray Town, Bray
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Wednesday 18 February 09 17:48 GMT (UK)


 And here is the marriage :)

  Jun 1875 George Blackall to Mary Penn at Cookham
                   Vol  3a    Page 1024
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Wednesday 18 February 09 17:59 GMT (UK)

 Here is John :)

 1891.....RG12 / 1619 / 151 / 9

John Blackall, head, age 30, b Bray, occ dom coachman
Lucy wife, age 32, b Carbrook, Norfolk
Cecil John son, age 3 b Aldershot, Hampshire
Amos Bennett lodger, age 17 b Downton, Wiltshire, occ dom groom

  Address.... Landford House, Stock Lane, Landford, Wilts
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Wednesday 18 February 09 18:04 GMT (UK)


  Marriage

Jun 1886 John Blackall to Lucy Chaston at Cookham
                 Vol 2c  Page 681
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Wednesday 18 February 09 18:13 GMT (UK)


 Ok ..... here is Joseph

  1891..... RG12 / 1002 / 94 / 29

Joseph Blackall, head, age 24, b Bray, occ farm servant
Emma, wife age 26, b Cookham

 Address.... Farm Lodge The Fishary, Riverside, Bray
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Wednesday 18 February 09 18:19 GMT (UK)

 Marriage

Jun 1889 Joseph Blackall to Emma Meacock/ Moorcock at Cookham
                 Vol  2c   Page 683
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Wednesday 18 February 09 18:47 GMT (UK)


 1901.... RG13 / 1158 / 7 / 5

Harry Blackall, head, age 34, b Bray, occ bricklayer's lab
Emm E, wife age 33, b Burnham, Buckinghamshire
Harry, son, age 4, b Burnham
Hilda R, dau, age 1, b Burnham
Joseph Blackall, brother, widower, age 36, b Bray, oc bricklayer's lab

   Address.....3 Belle Cottages, Crooked Billet Lane, Maidenhead.
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Wednesday 18 February 09 18:50 GMT (UK)


 Marriage

Mar 1894 Harry Blackall to Emma Elizabeth Young at Cookham.
                  Vol  2c  Page 635
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: toni* on Wednesday 18 February 09 19:25 GMT (UK)
Caroline Penn poss m. 1889 Cookham
Q2 2c 675
to George Herbert or Frank Sargent Mays/o
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: toni* on Wednesday 18 February 09 19:31 GMT (UK)
Wm Ilsley bp. 1778 poss m. Eliz Rose 15 Oct 1797 Tilehurst or m. 10 nov 1804 old basing (which is not that far from Bramley)
Rachael Loader
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Wednesday 18 February 09 19:34 GMT (UK)

 Hi Toni,

  Birth

  Sep 1851 Maria Blackall at Cookham
                   Vol 6  Page 167

  Death

   Sep 1861 Maria Blackall at Cookham
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: toni* on Wednesday 18 February 09 19:38 GMT (UK)
Hi Sue
i was wondering if that was Carolines marriage as cant seem to back it up with census entry
also
mary ann penn was she nee ....... m. to mr penn first
??

more questions than answers
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Wednesday 18 February 09 19:38 GMT (UK)

 Toni..... Les has the following that needs finding if you want to help ;D ;D


 George Blackall b abt 1847
 Fanny Blackall b abt 1857
 Mary Blackall b abt 1859
 James  Blackall b abt 1863

  Should all be b Cookham i believe :D

 
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Wednesday 18 February 09 19:43 GMT (UK)


 Toni.... I think Mary Penn was married maybe in Oxford to a Penn but have not looked  :)

  That looks like Caroline's marriage, maybe husband died ???
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: toni* on Wednesday 18 February 09 19:59 GMT (UK)
George b. 1847

1851  HO107 1694 158 5
1861  RG9 753 74 21
1891  RG12 1003 5 5


Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Wednesday 18 February 09 20:00 GMT (UK)

 This looks like Fanny's death

Sep 1868 Fanny Blackall age 11 at Cookham
                Vol  2c   Page 254
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: toni* on Wednesday 18 February 09 20:06 GMT (UK)
 :-[ :-[ u already done george  :-[

1881  rg11 1314 97 8
1871  rg10 1290 95 24

Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: toni* on Wednesday 18 February 09 20:16 GMT (UK)
James b. 1863

1871  1290 96 26
1881  1314 96 6
1891 1003 5 5

Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Wednesday 18 February 09 21:00 GMT (UK)


 Had a visitor........ Sorry Toni must have forgot to cross George off :-[

 Ok  i cant find Mary..... maybe she moved away ???
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Thursday 19 February 09 10:12 GMT (UK)
Thanks for starting this off Sue and Toni.
In Huntingdon..  ::)
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: toni* on Thursday 19 February 09 10:54 GMT (UK)
i'm not sure who to find now? other than Mary

James in 1901 - we need him i think unless he died

was finding it a pain to post last night so gave up!
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: toni* on Thursday 19 February 09 11:19 GMT (UK)
doth does Mary have a middle name?

yes she does Ann


Births Jun 1859   BLACKALL  Mary Ann    Cookham  2c 365


so this could be her marriage

Marriages Sep 1889   Islington  1b 447
Barlow  Henry James
Bushell  Henry James
Blackall  Mary Ann     
(Bright Caroline Elizabeth)

but no subsequent census matches  :-\

however on the 1891 census there are these possible Marys (as wife) b. 1859 or thereabouts Bray

Mary A Headington
RG12;  641;  110;  11 (in KEnt)

Mary Ann Garrett
RG12;  1004; 87;  4;(in Cookham)

Mary Dumper
RG12;  1904; 66; 6;(in Somerset)

Mary A Meade
RG12; 1092;69; 17;(in herts)

of course Mary may not have used the Ann of her name to get married
and she may not have got married just said she was  :-\




Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: toni* on Thursday 19 February 09 11:28 GMT (UK)
Mary Ann Garrett
RG12; 1004; 87; 4;(in Cookham)

Marriages Sep 1880   Cookham  2c 675   
 
Garratt  William   
Hemmins  Thomas William       
Johnson  Mary Ann     
WEBLING  Mary Ann     

is that our Mary Ann married before to Mr Webling (Weblin etc)
or is Mary ANn nee Webling

i saw some births in berks for Mary Weblin but in 1860 (Abingdon Farrington) and none in Cookham (to cover Bray)

there was a marriage for Martha Elizabeth BLACKWELL to a George Weblin but in 1884 (in Abingdon)

over to you
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Friday 20 February 09 21:19 GMT (UK)
While you're looking in Abingdon, can you keep a look out please for Florrie Weston's brother in law.. William Cox c1874 Epsom...  :P  :P

 He was last on the 1881 census with William snr and sib's Fred and Louisa Letitia. In Northcote, St Helen's, Abingdon. William snr a widower.
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Friday 20 February 09 21:44 GMT (UK)


  Jun 1926 Ralph P Cox to Beatrice M V Clifford at Swindon
                       Vol   5a    Page 47

 This seems a possible marriage Les :)
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Friday 20 February 09 22:27 GMT (UK)
 ;D East end maybe....  ;D

Marriages Mar 1895   
 
Cox  William   
Jones  Mary Maria   
Smith  Elizabeth     
Walford  Arthur Fowler    

 Abingdon  2c 421
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: matt94 on Friday 20 February 09 22:55 GMT (UK)
Hi

I know I have come in late to this topic but think I have some burials for you:

BLACKALL Maria, Bray, 4th Oct 1861, Age 10yrs.
BLACKALL Fanny, Bray, 6th Aug 1868, Age 11yrs.

Any more burials in Berks then let me know.

Matt
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: matt94 on Friday 20 February 09 23:05 GMT (UK)
And also:

Mary Ann Ilsley, Bray, March 23 1864. 70 years.
Thomas Ilsley, Bray, Sept 23, 1852. 58 years.

I will leave it to someone else to piece these together...

Matt  :)
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Friday 20 February 09 23:07 GMT (UK)
 :D Thanks Matt. That's great info, will add straight away....
              George Weston and Sarah Ann nee Blackall, if you've got chance. Thank you.

         Lesanne.  :D

Added .. Thanks for those too!!  ;)
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: matt94 on Friday 20 February 09 23:08 GMT (UK)
I will post all of the Bray burials for Blackall and Ilsley in the morning.

Transcribing them now, will post tomorrow if that's ok?

Matt :)
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Friday 20 February 09 23:10 GMT (UK)
Thanks very much Matt. What a lovely suprise..  :D  :D
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: matt94 on Friday 20 February 09 23:22 GMT (UK)
All Bray, Berkshire,
BLACKALL

Name/Date of Bur/Age/Abode

Betsy/20 Jul 1901/75/Jesus Hospital
David/23 May 1865/45/Cookham Union
Fanny/6 Aug 1868/11/Bray
George/30 Dec 1891/41/Bray
George Earnest/17 Nov 1924/36/Bray the Terrace
John/7 Mar 1833/28/Bray
John Earnest/12 May 1924/46/Walford
Maria/19 Mar 1833/20/Bray Wick
Maria/4 Oct 1861/10/Bray
Marianne/28 Nov 1862/4/Bray
Minnie/3 May 1911/33/Bray
Sarah/12 Jan 1855/70/Bradfield The Almshouse
William/30 Jun 1861/84/ Bradfield The Almshouse
William/18 Dec 1902/75/Maidenhead


Ilsley tomorrow.
Off to bed.

Matt :)
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: matt94 on Saturday 21 February 09 08:49 GMT (UK)
Good Morning  :)

These are the Bray Burials for surname Illsley

Name/Date/Age/Abode/Notes

Sophia Illsey?/28 Feb 1841/11 mo/Bray Town
Caroline/28 Nov 1824/3y/Moneylow Green/Dau of Mary Ann and Thos.
Daisy Rolls/7 Mar 1912/12/Sturt Green, Bray/at Touchen End Church Yard
David/21 Sept 1873/70/Moneylow Green
Edmund/27 Mar 1876/41/Moneylow Green

Edward/7 Mar 1833/7mo/Bray Town
Elizabeth/15 Aug 1839/70/Moneylow Green
Elizabeth/10 Mar 1919/73/1, Pretoria Cottages, West Borough Road, Maidenhead/at Touchen End Church Yard
Ellen Kezia/6 Jan 1885/15mo/Holyport
Emily/31 Dec 1871/3/bray Town

Frederick/23 Aug 1901/63/Sturt Green/at Touchen End Church Yard
Hazel/19 Oct 1911/6/Sturt Greeen/ Touchen End Church Yard
Henry/26 July 1879/65/Holyport
John/7 Jan 1872/70/Cookham Union
Mark/16 May 1856/2/Moneylow Green

Minnie/1 May 1883/21/Bray Town
Richard/28 Jan 1847/78/Cookham Union
Rodney/17 Mar 1906/6mo/Sturt Green/Touchen end Church Yard
Sarah/17 Aug 1877//Maidenhead
Sarah Caroline/17 Feb 1873/2d/Holyport
Tim/17 Nov 1898/2d/Sturt Green

Ilsley to Follow...
and Weston?

Matt  ::)
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: matt94 on Saturday 21 February 09 08:55 GMT (UK)
Ilsley Burials at Bray:

Ann/29 Jan 1860/4/Blackbird Lane
Hannah/4 Feb 1845/3/Holyport
Henry/24 Apr 1850/14m/Moneylow Green
Henry William/17 Feb 1867/7m/Holyport

James/20 Jun 1850/58/Cookham Union
Mary Ann/23 Mar 1864/70/ Bray Town
Thomas/23 Sept 1852/58/Bray Town


Weston to follow, There are many!!!!


Matt  :)
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: matt94 on Saturday 21 February 09 09:25 GMT (UK)
Weston at Bray

.../18 Jun 1837/inf/Cox Green/Dau of Ann
Ann/18 Jun 1837/35/Cox Green
Ann/29 Dec 1875/84/Homerton
Ann/16 Jan 1879/69/Cookham Union
Anne/4 Nov 1827/6w/Holyport/Dau of William & sarah

Charles/7May 1833/1+?/Cookham North Town
Eleanor/14 May 1837/8/Union Workhouse
Elizabeth/25 Jan 1827/65/Oakley Green/Widow
Elizabeth/25 April 1844/70/Cookham Union
Frederick/20 April 1833/4+/Cookham North Town

Hannah/15 May 1862/64/Cox Green
John/8 Oct 1823/82/Bray Almshouse
John/24 Aug 1834/13mo/Fifield
John/12 Mar 1873/86/Cookham Union
Louisa/26 Sept 1852/7mo/Cox Green

Mary/31 Oct 1824/73/bray Town/Wife of Richard
Mary/22 Mar 1849/23/Windsor
Mary Frances/23 Mar 1834/18+/Maidenhead
Nancy/14 Mar 1832/4m/Fifield
Richard/11 Oct 1835/82/

Richard/13 Mar 1875/80/Slough
Richard/29 Apr 1879/79/Cookham Union
Samuel/9 Mar 1828/74/Tutchen End
Samuel/18 Jul 1832/9/Oakley Green
Sarah/16 nov 1836/38/Stud Green

Sarah/29 April 1838/82/Bray Almshouse
Sarah/9 Jun 1844/74/tutchen End
Thomas/26 Oct 1823/5/Oakley Green/Son of William and Elizabeth
Thomas/23 Dec 1829/1m/Fifield/Son of Henry
Thomas/29 Jun 1837/10/Union Workhouse

William/27 Feb 1822/60/Oakley Green
William/18 Jul 1832/46/Oakley Green
William/31 Oct 1847/53/Sturt Green
William/12 Jan 1874/62/Cookham Union
Winifred/26 Jan 1874/82/Cookham Union


Any more you'd like then please ask.

:D Thanks Matt. That's great info, will add straight away....
              George Weston and Sarah Ann nee Blackall, if you've got chance. Thank you.

do you have dates/places for these two? I cannot find George in Bray but there are several Georges in the Index.

Matt  :)
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Saturday 21 February 09 09:48 GMT (UK)


 Hi All,

        Great work Matt ;D ;D ;D

 Les..... Am posting this from 1891 :D

  RG12 / 544 / 17 /28

William Alfred Cox, head, age 48, b Bath, Lanarkshire, occ medical prationer registered
Kate, wife, age 42, b Merton, Surrey
Emma Beatrice dau, age 17, b Sutton Surrey
WILLIAM HUDSON, son, age 16, b Sutton, Surrey, occ clerk
George Trevor, son,  age 14, b Sutton, Surrey
Kate, dau, age 12, b Sutton, Surrey
Ernest, son, age 11, b Sutton, Surrey
Violet Gladys, dau age 7, b Sutton, Surrey
Amy Boxall, cook, age 25, b Ashtead, Surrey, occ dom servant
Phylis Rosetta Dayman, nurse, age 16, b Halstead, Kent, occ dom servant
James Fleming, coachman, age 19, b Kensington, Middlesex, occ shop merchant

  Address... 2 North Side, Mulgrave Road, Sutton

  Had to post incase it was linked somewhere :D


Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Saturday 21 February 09 09:51 GMT (UK)


 Thought i would post marriage as well :)

Mar 1873 William Alfred Cox to Kate Hudson at Hackney
                     Vol 1b   Page 429
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: matt94 on Saturday 21 February 09 09:52 GMT (UK)
Just found these:

at Maidenhead Congregational:
WESTON, Charlotte, 6 Mar 1865, 34, wife of John (porter at Mr Mills, grocer)
WESTON, Eliza Georgina, 7 Dec 1863, 7mo. dau of John, porter at Mr Mills, Grocer
WESTON, Thomas Phillip, 9 Jan 1865, 1mo. Infant of porter at Mr. Mills, Grocer

at Maidenhead New Chapel:
WESTON, John, 14 Feb 1858, 2mo, Maidenhead.

at Maidenhead St. Luke:
WESTON, Bartholomew, 14 Apr 1882, 37, Castle Hill
WESTON, Bartholomew, 14 Jun 1882, 1d, Castle Hill
WESTON, Sarah, 12 Feb 1875, 22, Maidenhead Bridge St.
WESTON, William Edward, 28 Jan 1879, 1w, North Town.

at Maidenhead Boyne Hill All Saints:
WESTON, Arthur William, 27 Oct  1883, 5w, Dolmans Buildings, King St.
WESTON, Charles Edward, 1 Mar 1897, 17, Moulsford
WESTON, Eliza, 17 Jan 1893, 69, Boyne Hill
WESTON, Frances, 2 Sep 1886, 12mo, Dolmans Buildings.
WESTON, John, 1 July 1914, 91, 65 Westborough Road

WESTON, William, 1 Jun 1905, 45, Elm Cottages. suicide - no ceremonial.
BLACKALL, Elizabeth, 18 May 1905, 33y, 31 Westborough Rd.
BLACKALL, Emma, 3 Jan 1901, 38, Cox Green
BLACKALL, Emma, 3 Feb, 1921, 72, Florence Villa, New Rd, Ascot.
BLACKALL, Frederick William, 30 Oct 1915, 36, 42 Grenfell Rd.

BLACKALL, Joseph, 26 Sep 1945, 79, 2 North Star Lane
Reuben Albert, 28 Apr 1910, 36, 24 Bath Rd.

At High St Wesleyan
ILLSLEY John, 24 Dec 1865, _, Brixton, Late Maidenhead-London Carrier.
ILLSLEY Mary, 31 Mar 1861, 79, Maidenhead

I think that's pretty Much it...

Matt  :)
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Saturday 21 February 09 10:21 GMT (UK)
Goodness me....  :o Thank you so much for your trouble Matt. Very kind of you. 8)

   I shall have fun putting them in the files....  ;D  ;D

George Weston born abt 1851 Bray/Cookham   and Sarah Ann (nee Blackall) abt 1855.
  We did find Sarah in 1901....  ;)

Thanks again,
Les
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: matt94 on Saturday 21 February 09 10:23 GMT (UK)
So George died 1890's and Sarah after 1901?

I will have a look, although only one Sarah Ann Weston i have seen. She will probably be Sarah Weston.

Matt
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: matt94 on Saturday 21 February 09 10:29 GMT (UK)
Here's a George that might fit... although if he was not on the 1901 then maybe not...

Warfield St. Michael
WESTON, George, 6 Jun 1902, 82 years, Warfield.

still working on Sarah.

Matt ;)
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Saturday 21 February 09 10:59 GMT (UK)

 Les.... 1871.... RG10 / 682 / 77 / 19

Joseph Cox, head, age 33, b Stock, occ jobbing gardener
Fanny, wife, age 32, b Stourton, Wiltshire
Jane, dau, age 8, b Brixton
Charlotte, dau age 6, b Brixton
Eliza, dau, age 4, b Brixton
George, son age 1, b Brixton

 Address... Elizabeth Street, St Mary Lambeth
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Saturday 21 February 09 11:04 GMT (UK)


 This looks like the marriage :)

Mar 1863 Joseph Cox to Fanny Curtis at Lambeth
                Vol 1d   Page 282
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: matt94 on Saturday 21 February 09 11:08 GMT (UK)
From the IGI

Joseph Cox and Fanny Curtis marriage
St. John the Evangelist, Lambeth, London
11 Jan 1863

Batch M042321

Matt  :)
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Saturday 21 February 09 11:12 GMT (UK)

 In 1881... RG11 / 614 / 66 / 23

They have dau Emily, single, age 19, b Stourton, Somerset..... also says Fanny b here ::)

And also dau Louisa, age 5 b Brixton.  They are living same address :)

In 1891... RG12 / 410 / 95 / 18

Joseph and Fanny are on their own... Address 50 Bartley Street, Lambeth :)
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Saturday 21 February 09 11:19 GMT (UK)


 Possible death for Joseph :)

Sep 1900 Joseph Cox age 61 at Camberwell
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Saturday 21 February 09 11:51 GMT (UK)

 Here's Walter in 1881 :)

  RG11 / 615 / 16 / 26

Walter Cox, head, age 34, b Stock, occ  carpenter and Joiner
Elizabeth, wife, age 30, b Lambeth
Walter, son, age 6, b Lambeth
Charlotte, dau, age 4, b Lambeth
Emma, dau age 1, b Lambeth

Address..... 10a Arlington Street, Lambeth
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Saturday 21 February 09 12:01 GMT (UK)

 1891... RG12 / 410 / 131 / 48

Same as 1881 but also children George, age 8, b Battersea and Rosa, dau, age 5, b Lambeth.

Emily is not on here ???  Address...21 Pragire Street, Lambeth.

 Cant find Walter in 1901 ::)
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Saturday 21 February 09 12:10 GMT (UK)


 Here's Elizabeth in 1901

  RG13 / 427 / 144 / 30

Elizabeth Cox, head, widow age 50, b Lambeth, occ ironer laundry
Charlotte E, dau, single, age 23, b Brixton, occ dressmakers assistant
George, son, single, age 18, b Battersea, occ commercial clerk factory
Rosa, dau, age 15, b Brixton, occ nurse maid domestic

 Address 21 Prague Street, Lambeth
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Saturday 21 February 09 12:18 GMT (UK)

 I have checked this marriage and dob is right for Elizabeth :D

Dec 1871 Walter Cox to Elizabeth Loughton at Camberwell
                  Vol  1d  Page 1079
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Saturday 21 February 09 13:33 GMT (UK)


 Struggling now Les to find them :o

  1851 ...... HO107 / 1774 / 320 / 32.. living in Great Burstead


George Cox, head, age 50, b West Hanningfield
Hannah, wife, age 51, b Shelfanger, Norfolk
Ann, dau, age 12, b Great Burstead
Caroline, dau, age 9, b Great Burstead
William Cox, son ??? age 40 b Great Burstead
Edward Stammers, grandchild, age 2, b London

 Checked original and Wiliam is down as son ???
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Saturday 21 February 09 13:53 GMT (UK)
Hi Sue,

William1843's father, Joseph Cox1805 moved down to London with Charlotte1810.

They had grandchildren with them surname Sidney, from Broxbourne. I'm just searching RC to find that post... BBS

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,58304.msg233189.html#msg233189
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Saturday 21 February 09 14:54 GMT (UK)
1871 RG10 683 folio 69
 9 Frederick Street Lambeth  London 

Joseph Cox 1804  West Hanningfield, Sussex, Head Married Gardener out of employ
Charlotte Cox 1805  South Hanningfield, Sussex, Wife Married
Walter Cox 1848  Stock, Sussex, Son  Carpenter & joiner
William Stoney 1854  Broxbourne, Hertfordshire,  Grandson Carpenter & joiner out of employ
Emily Cox 1862  Wiltshire, Granddaughter
Stoney=Sidney?

1861 RG9 363 folio 130
11 Elizabeth Street Lambeth St Mary  Surrey

Joseph Cox 1806  West Hanningfield, Essex, Head Married Gardener   
Charlotte Cox 1808  West Hanningfield, Essex, Wife Married
Walter Cox 1848  Stock, Essex, Son 
Emily Sidney 1851  Stock, Essex,  Granddaughter
William Sidney 1854  Broxbourne, Hertfordshire,  Grandson
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Saturday 21 February 09 15:01 GMT (UK)

 Ok tell me if this is right  :D

  1891..... RG12 / 411 / 58 / 45.... Lambeth

Mary Ann Chubb, head, wid, age 58, b Margaretting, occ dressmaker
Emma Sidney, dau, single age 39, b Stock, occ dom ser

 Right.... Mary Ann Cox married a Sidney and they had  Emma :)

             Husband died and Mary Ann married a Chubb, now a wid.... Emma not married ;D ;D

       Have i got it ;D ;D 8)
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Saturday 21 February 09 15:05 GMT (UK)


 Found this marriage Les

Sep 1874 Mary Ann Sidney to Luke Chubb at Lambeth
                    Vol 1d  Page 446
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Post by: Lesanne on Saturday 21 February 09 15:06 GMT (UK)
That looks right Sue.   ;) Gonna file it... ;D
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Saturday 21 February 09 15:22 GMT (UK)


 Dec 1885 Luke Chubb age 68 at St Olave

  What about this for his death?
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Saturday 21 February 09 15:28 GMT (UK)


1881..... RG11 / 570 / 107 / 19

Luke Chubb, head, age 62, b Bethnal Green, occ leather warehouseman
Mary Ann, wife, age 47, b Margaret Roothing, Essex

  Address  58 Reverdy Road, Bermondsey
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Saturday 21 February 09 16:20 GMT (UK)

Margaret Roothing  :o  ;D  ;D

1861 Clapham Surrey in Marzette H/hold
RG9 368 351 11

Mary A Sidney 29 Widow serv Nurse bp Margritten
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Saturday 21 February 09 17:16 GMT (UK)
Mary Ann Cox is at home in 1851 Stock aged 19
also there is Emma Emiley aged 3 weeks Grand daug.




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Post by: toni* on Saturday 21 February 09 18:57 GMT (UK)
Letitia Louise b. Brixton who did she marry?
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Saturday 21 February 09 19:08 GMT (UK)


 When was she born Les..... i cant find her on tree ???
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Saturday 21 February 09 19:08 GMT (UK)
Hi Toni, I have cert for that one.........
13 April 1903 Gt Marlow Bucks


Ernest George Hester 27 Bach coal Merchant Gt Marlow Stephen Hester

Letitia Louisa Cox 30 Spin Serv M'head William Cox (desc)

wit's Ernest Howard. Annie Hester. George Ellis Baker.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I have just found the maiden name for William Cox1843's wife(Letitia Baker) mother...... Letitia Myall Harvey... yet another possible link to newport pagnell.....  ???  ???  ???



Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Saturday 21 February 09 19:11 GMT (UK)
Louisa Letitia Cox b abt 1868 Brixton
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Saturday 21 February 09 19:35 GMT (UK)


Les... You have Letitia Cox who married William as died in 1872 Aylesbury district.

    Is this the William that went to Abingdon?
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Saturday 21 February 09 19:39 GMT (UK)


 This wouldn't  be her burial would it ???.... Was searching for William or Frederick ::)

 From Abingdon St Helens PRs

   Burial

Jan 3 1878 Letitia Cox age 37 of Northcourt
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Saturday 21 February 09 19:43 GMT (UK)
Yes thats right.
William Cox 1843 son of Joseph and Charlotte.

Married Letitia Baker in 1866.

Is there a baby with her Sue?
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Saturday 21 February 09 19:46 GMT (UK)
Letitia's family.

1851 Eastwood, Essex  HO107 1777 81 p3

Letitia Baker, head, wid, 36, No Employment, b. Rochford
James Baker, son, 12, Ag Lab 'Boy', b. Eastwood
Letitia M Baker, dau, 10, At Home, b. Eastwood
Mary A Baker, dau, 6, At Home, b. Eastwood
Anne Baker, dau, 4, At Home, b. Eastwood
John M Baker, son, 1, At Home, b. Eastwood
John Miall, Lodger, wid, 73, Pauper, Ag Lab, b. Stambridge, Essex
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Saturday 21 February 09 19:47 GMT (UK)


Will have another look :D
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Saturday 21 February 09 19:51 GMT (UK)
Letitia Mary Cox aged 1 in 1872 Aylesbury dist
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Post by: jamajo on Saturday 21 February 09 20:07 GMT (UK)


  No burials in St Helens for a child called Cox around 1878 but did find this baptism

  at St Michaels Abingdon :)

10 Aug 1876 Elizabeth Cox dau of William and Letitia of Northcourt, occ coachman

Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Saturday 21 February 09 20:14 GMT (UK)
 ::) Where did Elizabeth come from then...  ???

No sign of an Elizabeth on census with William and other children. Need to follow her..  ;)
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Saturday 21 February 09 20:30 GMT (UK)


This could be her in 1881 Les :)

  RG11 / 1282 / 42 / 21

Albert Turner, head, age 27, b Abingdon, occ ag lab
Mary A, wife, age 26, b Abingdon, occ seamstress
William, son, age 5, b Abingdon
Rachel, dau, age 3, b Abingdon
Lizzie Cox, visitor, age 5, b Northcourt

  Address ....Bury Street, Abingdon St Helen
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Post by: Lesanne on Saturday 21 February 09 20:40 GMT (UK)
Blimey  :o Sue....  ;D ;D Well done you.. Is Bury Street near Northcourt?

Do you think Mary A Turner is related....  ;D

I found this 1901 Rg13 1161 50 34 Maidenhead St Lukes. Garden Cottages.

   Elizabeth Cox 24 boarder

Funny enough 3 doors down from the Coxhead's William and Kate.  :o
   
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Saturday 21 February 09 20:43 GMT (UK)

And what about this in 1891?

      RG12 / 1002 / 50 / 1

William Kempton, head, age 37, b Ely, Cambridgeshire, occ grocers assistant
Helena E, wife, age 26, b Maidenhead
Lionel F, son, age 2, b Maidenhead
Helena M, dau, age 1, b Maidenhead
Sydney Watmough, boarder, age 21, b Boston, Lincolnshire, occ ironmongers assistant
Alfred E Albury, boarder, age 17, b Basildon, Berkshire, occ grocers apprentice
Elizabeth B K Cox, servant, age 15, b Abingdon, Berkshire, occ dom servant

  Address....51 & 53 High Street, Bray, Maidenhead
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Saturday 21 February 09 20:46 GMT (UK)


 Les...... Northcourt and Bury St are in Abingdon, about 15 min walk from each other.

 Would you like me to look in PRs for this Turner family?
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Saturday 21 February 09 20:57 GMT (UK)
Yes Please Sue. The marriage might give a maiden name like Cox  ;D  ;D

That 1901 boarder is also Abingdon....  :-[ didn't put that in post, did I  :-[

Sooo slooooow in postings.
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Saturday 21 February 09 21:05 GMT (UK)


Here is the marriage from St Michaels, Abingdon PRs :D

21 Mar 1875 Albert Turner, (x), b, 22, lab, Bury Street, father Edward Turner, lab
                     Mary Ann Arnold, (x), sp, 21, Bury Street, father George Arnold, lab
                       Wits... Henry Stone (x) Jane Absolem (x)
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Saturday 21 February 09 22:45 GMT (UK)
Children of Joseph1805 and Charlotte1809 (nee Rushbrooke) Cox. Essex

Eliza          1826  Esx
George      1830  Esx
Mary Ann   1832  Margaretting + Sidney? + Luke Chubb 1874
Emma        1834  Esx
Joseph       1837  Stock + Fanny Curtis Stourton Wilts 1863
Charlotte  1840   Stock
William 27/3/1843    + Letitia Mary Baker 1866
Walter      1848   Stock + Elizabeth Loughton 1871
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: toni* on Sunday 22 February 09 12:21 GMT (UK)
Letitia's family.

1851 Eastwood, Essex  HO107 1777 81 p3

John Miall, Lodger, wid, 73, Pauper, Ag Lab, b. Stambridge, Essex

a relation of mary myall harvey you think ?
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: toni* on Sunday 22 February 09 12:28 GMT (UK)
i am sure we had Mary Myall harvey but somewhere - earlier you said letita myall harvey

incase its of any relevence

Myall Harvey m. Sarah Groom 1794 at Southminster
(pallots)
(although the way its written i wonder if he is Harvey Myall)
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: toni* on Sunday 22 February 09 12:36 GMT (UK)
nope looked again and it is Myall Harvey and he and Sarah had a child the following year
Myal Harvey bp.17 sept 1795 Southbridge



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Post by: toni* on Sunday 22 February 09 13:01 GMT (UK)
1861 Rochford Union Workhouse
rg9 1085 11 2
John Miall aged 85 pauper inmate b. eastwood
several other Myalls in same workhouse coincidence ?

James MYall 50 pauper inmate b. prittlewell essex
Rebecca 45 do. b. do.
William 11 do. b. do
Thomas 9 do. b. do.

interestingly there is also infant punt aged 1 day

seems they are listed in their family units and John is not with the other MYalls nor is his name spelt with a Y

 :)
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Post by: toni* on Sunday 22 February 09 13:16 GMT (UK)
I have just found the maiden name for William Cox1843's wife(Letitia Baker) mother...... Letitia Myall Harvey...

so when was letitia baker born and also her mother ?
do you have letitia baker birth cert ?

Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: toni* on Sunday 22 February 09 13:19 GMT (UK)
deaths june 1863 John MYall Rochford 4a 126
(Rochford union workhouse 1861)
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Sunday 22 February 09 13:33 GMT (UK)
Hi Toni :)

    Les has Letitia Baker b abt 1841 in Eastwood, Essex.

    Her mother is down as b abt 1815 in Rochford, Essex


I have been searching for Joseph and Charlotte's childrens marriages but had no luck ::)
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: toni* on Sunday 22 February 09 13:42 GMT (UK)
letitia myall baker b. Q1 1840 Rochford 12 202

so she should appear in 1841 and the birth cert should be obtainable  :-\
but might not be necesary if Les already knows Letitia parents names :)
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: toni* on Sunday 22 February 09 13:47 GMT (UK)
it seems Letitia had an elder brother James
i was lookin for Letitia mother letitia marriage
must be pre reg
 :-\

have to go and do some real housework
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Sunday 22 February 09 14:27 GMT (UK)


 Have we had this already?

    1861 in Great Wakering, Essex

           RG9 / 1086 / 80 / 27

John Raven, head, wid, age 32, b Prittlewell, Essex, occ shoemaker
Mary Anne, dau, age 2, b Great Wakering
Henry, son, age 1 month, b Great Wakering
John A Hopkins, son in law, age 10 b Great Wakering
Elizabeth S Hopkins, dau in law, age 8, b Great Wakering
Letitia Baker, visitor, age 42, b Rochford, occ housekeeper

  So are these related to Letitia ???
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Sunday 22 February 09 17:22 GMT (UK)

  1841... HO107 / 337 / 20 / 7

James Baker age 25, occ shoemaker
Lettia Baker age 25
James Baker age 3
Lettia M age 1
Susan Baker age 23
John Mite age 50, occ ag lab

  All b Essex..... Address Eastwood
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Sunday 22 February 09 17:43 GMT (UK)

 James b abt 1838 ( James and Letitia's son )

           1861..... RG09 / 1086 / 77 / 21

James Baker head, unmarried, age 23, occ boot and shoe maker
Letitia Baker sister, unmarried, age 21, occ servant
Hannah Baker sister, unmarried, age 19
Mary Ann Baker sister, unmarried, age 16
John Baker brother, age 12

   All b Eastwood

 Address.....C L House Shop, Wakering Street, Great Wakering
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: toni* on Sunday 22 February 09 18:58 GMT (UK)

  1841... HO107 / 337 / 20 / 7

James Baker age 25, occ shoemaker
Lettia Baker age 25
James Baker age 3
Lettia M age 1
Susan Baker age 23
John Mite age 50, occ ag lab

  All b Essex..... Address Eastwood

oh good i was looking for them
i think letitia and james must have married pre reg an also james was b pre reg
are eastwood records online?

from 1851 we see that letitia has a 1 year old child but no husband , then in 1861 it seems no parents are around as all siblings are together so this then narrows down the possible deaths of james & letitia the parents considrably

Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: toni* on Sunday 22 February 09 19:08 GMT (UK)
John Baker was aged 1 in 1851 and 12 in 1861 b. eastwood
rochford is the reg district for eastwood
death for james then Q2 1850 rochford 12 135
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Sunday 22 February 09 19:18 GMT (UK)

 Toni what about this one in 1881?  Have we had this?

   RG11 / 1772 / 7 / 7

James Baker, head, single, age 43 b Eastwood, occ bootmaker
Letitia Baker, mother, widow, age 65, b Rochford, occ housekeeper
Mary A, sister, single age 37, b Eastwood, imbecile

  Address .... High Street, Great Wakering

 What would imbecile mean?
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: toni* on Sunday 22 February 09 19:30 GMT (UK)

 James b abt 1838 Eastwood ( James and Letitia's son )

           1861..... RG09 / 1086 / 77 / 21

   All b Eastwood

 Address.....C L House Shop, Wakering Street, Great Wakering

1871 rg10 1670 13 17
1881 rg11 1772 7 7
1891 rg12 1394 23 39
1901 rg13 1684 88 2 (inmate rochford union workhouse)
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Post by: toni* on Sunday 22 February 09 19:36 GMT (UK)
hi sue snap ;D

imbecile meant  mental defect maybe with viscious or criminal ways and which punishment would have little effect
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Sunday 22 February 09 19:40 GMT (UK)


 Oooohh.... so do we know what happened to her Toni?

 Was she with family after 1881?
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: toni* on Sunday 22 February 09 19:46 GMT (UK)
she was with James by himself on one  census

           1861..... RG09 / 1086 / 77 / 21
John Baker brother, age 12

   b Eastwood
 
1871 as james before
1881 rg11 1772 9 12 bricklayer m. to harriet (with dau harriet
1891 ??
1901 his majestys prison(springfield) rg13 1674 99 3
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: toni* on Monday 23 February 09 11:06 GMT (UK)
Essex Police Museum might be able to help you further with John Baker (he was there in 1901)
http://www.essex.police.uk/museum/history_32.htm
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Post by: Lesanne on Tuesday 24 February 09 11:30 GMT (UK)
 :D How interesting, thanks both...   :-*  :-*
:o Been trying to follow the Myall/Miall Harvey that was found....   :-\   Ok..  ???  ???
                 . till later....

Back to Elizabeth B.K. Cox  abt 1876 Abingdon
:-\ Is there a reason for BK?

Brother William c1874 might be near...
and the death of father William? or did he remarry?

Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: toni* on Tuesday 24 February 09 11:38 GMT (UK)
are B.K. not her initials then?

was tryingto find a Miall/Myall harvey marriage - no luck

i wondered if the M that some of the Baker children for their middle anme have also stood for Miall


Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Tuesday 24 February 09 11:45 GMT (UK)

Yes probably right on the intials for Elizabeth, why BK though?
M for the Harvey's.

James Baker + Letitia Myall Harvey 16 Ocober 1835 Eastwood Ex. (sub entry)
I expect that is her father John Mite/Miall/Myall c1782 Stambridge (could be southbridge?).




Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: toni* on Tuesday 24 February 09 11:51 GMT (UK)
1861 Rochford Union Workhouse
rg9 1085 11 2
John Miall aged 85 pauper inmate b. eastwood

you mean this John Miall  ;D
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: toni* on Tuesday 24 February 09 11:52 GMT (UK)
and here



1851 Eastwood, Essex  HO107 1777 81 p3


John Miall, Lodger, wid, 73, Pauper, Ag Lab, b. Stambridge, Essex

maybe a look up for Letitia birth in Eastwood PRs might help

anyone going to Essex RO?
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Tuesday 24 February 09 14:53 GMT (UK)
 Hi Les and Toni :)

 
 Les...... I know you said you had Absolem in your tree so what about this one :)

  1881..... RG11 / 1314 / 33 / 25

Sarah Absolam, head, widow, age 63 b Dorney, Buckinghamshire
Emily M Miall, lodger, single, age 48, b Ireland, occ dressmaker

    Address .... 19 Victoria Street, Bray

May be nothing to do with your lot ???
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Abiam2 on Tuesday 24 February 09 15:34 GMT (UK)
You are way beyond Ilsley's but this has just been sent to me.

Elizabeth Ilsley died 16 August 1939 interred at All Saints Maidenhead

Cheers,
Abiam
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Tuesday 24 February 09 15:44 GMT (UK)
 :D Hello Abiam, Thanks for posting.. I shall check that Elizabeth is 'filed'....  ;)


  and Sue........   :o OMGiddy aunty....  ;D a Miall in Bray.... (well, in M'head really. Victoria Street runs down into King Street)

So how does that one join up to the ones in Rochford Essex ???
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Tuesday 24 February 09 16:36 GMT (UK)

  Oh so its worth looking into then Les :o

  Had to sort kids out with homework but back now so will have a look ;D

 You say Rochford........ is that Miall or Absolem ???
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Tuesday 24 February 09 16:48 GMT (UK)


 Well isn't this another name in your tree?

  1901.......RG13 / 1160 / 83 / 33

Fredk T Castle, head, single, age 59, b Taplow, Buckinghamshire, occ Ret Mew water factor
John Myall, visitor, married, age 42, b Chichester, Sussex, occ builder

 Address....... Brisbane Villa, Cookham
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Tuesday 24 February 09 17:13 GMT (UK)

 Here's Sarah in 1871.....RG10 / 1290 / 24 / 16

Sarah Absolum, head, widow, age 55, b Buckinghamshire, occ laundress
Alfred, son, unmarried, age 19,b Berkshire, occ carpenter

 Address... Victoria Street, Bray

 
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Tuesday 24 February 09 18:11 GMT (UK)


 Is this any use....... Letitia the mothers relations maybe :)

  1841...... HO107 / 337 / 12 / 18

Edward Myal, age 35 b Essex, occ looks like mariner
Mary Myal, age 50, b Essex
Cartherine Myal, age 15, b Essex
Sophia Munets, age 35, b ?

  Address.... Wellington Place, Prittlewell, Rochford
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Tuesday 24 February 09 18:15 GMT (UK)
 :D Looks good Sue, I'll add a brother Edward...  ;) Might help on IGI searching...   :-\
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Tuesday 24 February 09 18:22 GMT (UK)


  1841.... HO107 / 337 / 5/ 4

Jos Myal, age 52, occ mariner
Mary Ann Myal, age 36
James Myal, age 25
Jos Myal, age 12
Marian Myal, age 10
William Myal, age 7
Daniel Myal, age 5
Elizabeth Myal, age 3
Charles Myal, age 1

 All b Essex.... Address....Minerva Place,Prittlewell, Rochford
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Tuesday 24 February 09 18:36 GMT (UK)


 OOOooo.... What about this :)

  1841..... HO107 / 323 / 11 / 16

Samuel Miall, age 67
Margaret Miall, age 62
Mary Miall, age 30
Christopher Baker, age 9
Mildred Baker, age 7

Address.... Wall End, East Ham..... No P.O.B for any of them ???
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Tuesday 24 February 09 18:59 GMT (UK)
oooOooo well done Sue... Noted....  ;)

This Myall Harvey who married Sarah Groom... 1794 (pallots.) makes him abt 1774....  ;)

  John Mite/Myall {of lodger fame} is b1776 Eastwood...

Could Sarah be Letitia Myall Harvey's mother.... ::)

Sarah Groom and Myall Harvey have a Myall Harvey b 17/9/1795.... a possible sib for Letitia snr.

Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: toni* on Tuesday 24 February 09 19:00 GMT (UK)
in 1861 some Prittewell Myalls were in Rochford Union Workhouse with John Miall however they were spelt as such and listed separatey i think they were not related or not aware they were related
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: toni* on Tuesday 24 February 09 19:03 GMT (UK)
i havent seen Myal Harvey jnr on the census
b. Southbridge

John Miall (of lodger fame) was b. Stambridge  in 1851 & eastwood 1861
presume Essex in 1841

Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Tuesday 24 February 09 19:05 GMT (UK)
Wasn't he with Letittia and James in 1841 as John Mite...
 ooo  :(  been on this bit for too long...
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Tuesday 24 February 09 19:18 GMT (UK)

Samuel Miall.............. :o  :o oh, it does make me larf....  ;D  ;D

MARGARET TURNER 
  Marriage:  23 NOV 1796   Saint Dunstan, Stepney, London
 
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: toni* on Tuesday 24 February 09 20:30 GMT (UK)
young Myal Harvey s/o Myal & Sarah where is he in the census did he die?
i can't find any reference to them after the m. and bp.
__

maybe the workhouse records will help with John Miall

__
thinking outside the box maybe Leitia Myall Harvey is not the product of a Myall / Harvey marriage maybe the Myall is named after a promient figure in society = to todays celebs or maybe it was a name further back in her history handed to her
 
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Tuesday 24 February 09 20:45 GMT (UK)


 Found this in 1851.... Stanbourne

  HO107 / 1784 / 613 / 2

Barker Myall, head, age 73, occ farmer of 100 acres, employ 5 men
Emma, dau, age 34
Sarah Lewsey, servant, age 23

All b Stanbourne

Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: jamajo on Tuesday 24 February 09 20:58 GMT (UK)


 On same page  :) 2 Families :o

Thomas Harvey, age 38, his wife Hepzibah,age 34, and 2 children, Roseanna, 9,Dianna,2

 All b Stanbourne.. Thomas occ ag lab

Also Abraham Harvey,wid, age 30, son Charles age 11, Eliza, dau age 8, Elizabeth, dau, age 6

Samuel, son, age 3 and a lodger Sarah Hardy age 30.

 All b Stanbourne..... Abraham...occ ag lab
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: toni* on Tuesday 24 February 09 21:13 GMT (UK)
its finding that illusive connection isnt it
i really think the marriage of letitia myall harvery to james baker in eastood pr's is the way to along with mayhap her birth ;)

---
les, looking at Eliz BK Cox her birth is not indexed with these initials  :-\
Beatrice Kezia - just a guess based on nothing!

---

William b. 1874 and death of his father or did he remarry is that William Baker or Cox?

___
why don't you post a look up request in Essex specifically for Letitia Myall Harvey marriage in the PR's for witnesses you have an approx. date from the submitted entry

Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Lesanne on Wednesday 25 February 09 22:20 GMT (UK)
Hi Sue & Toni,
Yes, I put a post on Essex yesterday afternoon, for Letitia snr.  ;)

We find all this info, yet, Frederick Cox 1870 and Margaret Howe1859?  argh!!
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: mariecrisp on Wednesday 02 October 13 10:20 BST (UK)
Hi I know it has been sometime since this thread was started.
I believe that I am a relative to some of the Illsley's you have mentioned they fall on my Fathers side.His Mum was an illsley Joyce (b1909-1972) she had another son Martin (1939-1947) he died in a drowning accident they are buried at touchen end cemetery they share a grave which also has Sidney cox my grandad.
Joyce's parents were Fred Illsley and Ocean Rolls, I believe Fred's parents were Frederick Illsley and Elizabeth Goodchild, and then Henry Illsley and Elizabeth Wells. I have not checked these 100 % yet.

I have a lot more Illsley's on my Tree but it's quite tricky setting them all out on here.



Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: MartheLucie on Thursday 06 November 14 04:03 GMT (UK)
Walter and Elizabeth Cox, 21 Prague St., Brixton are my maternal great grandparents.
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: MartheLucie on Friday 09 January 15 22:20 GMT (UK)
Elizabeth and Walter Cox of 21 Prague Street  were my maternal great grandparents. I have photos of Elizabeth. I would be very pleased to make contact with any one researching this family. Thank you.
Marthe Lucie
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: Shaye on Thursday 23 November 17 22:24 GMT (UK)

 Here's Sarah in 1871.....RG10 / 1290 / 24 / 16

Sarah Absolum, head, widow, age 55, b Buckinghamshire, occ laundress
Alfred, son, unmarried, age 19,b Berkshire, occ carpenter

 Address... Victoria Street, Bray

Hi, I have done quite abit of research in terms of the "Absolums" as i am one :) Have plenty of info to share if need.
Title: Re: Ilsley sisters + Blackall and Weston in Bray
Post by: JSHD2011 on Wednesday 29 November 17 21:59 GMT (UK)
My father was Leslie Illsley the potter (Troika, St Ives c.1960's).  In one version of our GEDCOM on Ancestry we have a Thomas Illsley who married Mary Anne ALLEN (1797–1864), as follows:
Thomas Illsley  (1795 - 1852) There were two or three people on Ancestry with the same person in their tree and who we matched with DNA.
3rd great-grandfather
Edward Illsley (1834 - 1908)
son of Thomas Illsley DNA
George Illsley (1877 - 1948)
son of Edward Illsley
George Winstone Illsley (1903 - 1976)
son of George Illsley
Leslie Richard Illsley Troika Potter, St Ives (1936 - 1989)
son of George Winstone Illsley
John Shreeve Holman Davis