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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Dublin => Topic started by: Adrianne on Sunday 15 February 09 00:05 GMT (UK)
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Hi,
I've recently started to break down a brickwall ;D regarding my g grandfather Percy Andrew Dunlop, born 'Dublin', who moved to Australia in his early 30's (c1904). After at least 10 years searching, finally found him on the new Irish BMD site marrying (someone other than my g grandmother :o) in Rathfarnham in 1896. Have bought the certificate and confirmed he's mine.
I was wondering if anyone could tell me about the parish church for the Church of Ireland in Rathfarnham, and if their records for 1896 survive? Does anyone know if there is likely to be more information than the marriage cert in these records too?
Thank you
Adrianne
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The following Catholic registers are available for Rathfarnham Parish at the NLI :
Microfilm P.8972
Rathfarnham Marriages Feb. 5, 1777 - May 19, 1781
Rathfarnham & Crumlin Marriages May 26, 1781 - Nov. 18, 1781
Nov. 17, 1781 - Mar. 4, 1789
Rathfarnham Baptisms Jan. 1, 1777 - May 1781
Rathfarnham & Crumlin Baptisms May 1781 - Nov. 14, 1781
Rathfarnham Baptisms Nov. 18, 1781 - Dec. 1, 1788
(Baptisms and Marriages for 1788-1807 are missing.)
Microfilm P.8972
Rathfarnham (continued) Baptisms Sept. 18, 1807 - Jan. 15, 1832
Marriages Sept. 22, 1807 - Jan. 9, 1832
Baptisms Jan. 22, 1832 - Feb. 1, 1852
Jan. 7, 1861 - Oct. 2, 1864
Marriages Jan. 23, 1832 - Jan. 8, 1852
Nov. 19, 1862 - Nov. 3, 1864
Baptisms Jan. 1, 1852 - Feb. 7, 1857
Marriages Jan. 5, 1852 - Nov. 21, 1858
Baptisms Oct. 9, 1864 - Mar. 24, 1878
Aug. 20, 1857 - Sept. 26, 1858
Marriages Nov. 12, 1864 - Mar. 4, 1878
Baptisms Mar. 31, 1878 - June 27, 1917
Marriages Feb. 12, 1878 - July 24, 1933
I would not usually expect parish registers to contain any more information than the civil register (many that I've seen include quite a bit less detail).
p.s. what was Percy Dunlop's fathers name ? I have located a couple of Dunlop entries close to Rathfarnham in an 1894 trade directory.
Shane
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Hi,
Yes the records for Rathfarnham C-o-I Church are available for:-
Births 1873-onwards
Marriages 1845-onwards
Deaths 1873
It is quite likely the marriage record will show the fathers names for both bride and groom. It should also show occupations.
There were Dunlops living close to Rathfarnham during the early 1900s - could these be parents/siblings to your Percy?
Cheers
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Hi,
Thankyou LH and Shane for your replies :)
Percy's address at marriage is listed as Rathmaines, occupation clerk. His father's name was Andrew, occupation journalist. I've found his father in the 1911 census living in the parish of Donnybrook. Male siblings I now know of are Geoffrey (from census) and possibly Robert (witness at marriage). Any further info would be greatly appreciated ;D
Thanks
Adrianne
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Hi there - I know this post is from several years ago but I wondered how you followed up on it. It looks like Percy Andrew Dunlop was the son of my great great aunt and uncle (Andrew Dunlop and Isabella Bond). Lots more information available if you are looking for anything more.
Jenny
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It looks like Percy Andrew Dunlop was the son of my great great aunt and uncle (Andrew Dunlop and Isabella Bond).
There's an Andrew Dunlop born in Dublin in 1868. His parents Andrew Dunlop (Sub Editor) and Isabella nee Bond. Maybe he later changed his name to Percy Andrew ??? Parents living at 120 Leinster Road, Rathmines.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1868/03431/2259285.pdf
KG
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.......my g grandfather Percy Andrew Dunlop, born 'Dublin', who moved to Australia in his early 30's (c1904). After at least 10 years searching, finally found him on the new Irish BMD site marrying (someone other than my g grandmother :o) in Rathfarnham in 1896.
Marriage of Percy Andrew DUNLOP and Anna Kathleen LEASK on 15 September 1896 in Rathfarnham Parish Church. Witnesses included Jeanie W Dunlop and Robert A Dunlop.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1896/10500/5823918.pdf
1901 census - Jeanie Wallace Dunlop and Robert A Dunlop
Residents of a house 31 in Grosvener Road (Rathmines, Dublin).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Rathmines/Grosvener_Road/1295569/
KG
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Hi again - I don't think there is any doubt about the connection looking at the surnames of interest in your profile. My Dad was a Bond and did a lot of trawling through records in Dubline/Coleraine/Derry etc before so much became available online. After all this time you've probably found everything that we have on the Bonds, Entiwstles etc but happy to share anything I have.
Jenny
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Percy Andrew Dunlop in 1901 census.
Residents of a house 72 in Albert Road (Glasthule, Dublin).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Glasthule/Albert_Road/1321030/
Birth of Richard Percy Gordon Dunlop in 1897. MMN Leask
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1897/02118/1805583.pdf
I've found his father in the 1911 census living in the parish of Donnybrook. Male siblings I now know of are Geoffrey (from census)......
Residents of a house 56 in Marlborough Road (Pembroke West, Dublin).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Pembroke_West/Marlborough_Road/9978/
KG
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........and possibly Robert (witness at marriage).
Robert Alexander Dunlop married Kathleen Alessia Bond on 5th September 1907 in the Church of the Holy Trinity, Rathmines.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1907/10099/5674190.pdf
The family in 1911 census.
Residents of a house 3 in Prince Edward Terrace, Upper (Blackrock No. 2, Dublin).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Blackrock_No__2/Prince_Edward_Terrace__Upper/90679/
Two children born in 1908 and 1918.
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01qml/
KG
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My Dad was a Bond and did a lot of trawling through records in Dubline/Coleraine/Derry etc.....
Is this a connection?
There’s this marriage of Andrew DUNLOP and Isabella BOND on 18 January 1859 in Coleraine. Andrew was a baker and his father Robert Dunlop, a clerk. Isabella's father Henry Bond, a master of the workhouse.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1859/09567/5468665.pdf
KG
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Male siblings I now know of are Geoffrey (from census) and possibly Robert (witness at marriage). Any further info would be greatly appreciated
Death of Geoffrey Dunlop in 1931. The informant was his brother Robert (living at Upper Prince Edward Terrace, Blackrock).
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1931/04895/4326218.pdf
KG
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Hi Jenny,
It was so fantastic to get your message! Always great to make a family connection ;D
It's been a long time since I've done any any research but yes, I have a lot more than that original post. I've got quite a bit about Andrew and Isabella and their family and of the Dunlop side, (the previous generation were in Scotland,) but, from memory, I have very little of the Bond side! I've had some computer issues recently and can't get at my database right now but I'll get back to you tonight!!!
Adrianne :)
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Here's more information for others reading-
Death of Isabella Dunlop in 1909.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1909/05445/4523364.pdf
Death of Andrew Dunlop in 1912.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1912/05358/4493785.pdf
Marriage of Frances Matilda Dunlop in 1901 to Ernest Musgrave Harris.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1901/10328/5759704.pdf
Marriage of Isabel Mary Dunlop in 1900 to Frederick Angeron.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1900/10346/5766319.pdf
Death of Isabel Angeron in 1947.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1947/04591/4215094.pdf
Birth of Evelyne Dunlop in 1878 MMN Bond
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1878/02955/2082320.pdf
….and her death in 1904.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1904/05639/4586859.pdf
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Marriage of Isabel Mary Dunlop in 1900 to Frederick Angeron.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1900/10346/5766319.pdf
Frederick Angeron died in 1901.
Death Jan-Mar 1901
Angeron Frederick A 32 Christchurch 2b 467
FreeBMD - https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
KG
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Marriage of Frances Matilda Dunlop in 1901 to Ernest Musgrave Harris.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1901/10328/5759704.pdf
Birth of Dorothea Frances Annette in 1909 at Drumourne outside Carnlough, Co Antrim.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1909/01617/1648266.pdf
Drumourne townland
https://www.townlands.ie/antrim/glenarm-lower/tickmacrevan/glencloy/drumourne/
Birth of Brent Andrew Musgrave in 1914 at Groomsport, Co Down.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1914/01398/1575082.pdf
KG
Edited to Add:
1911 census
Residents of a house 15 in Drumourne (Glencloy, Antrim).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Glencloy/Drumourne/194341/
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Is this a connection?
There’s this marriage of Andrew DUNLOP and Isabella BOND on 18 January 1859 in Coleraine. Andrew was a baker and his father Robert Dunlop, a clerk. Isabella's father Henry Bond, a master of the workhouse.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1859/09567/5468665.pdf
KG
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Yes thanks this is the same family.
Henry Bond married Mary-Anne Entwistle in Glendermott CofI Church on 29 August 1833.
Mary-Anne's parents were Henry Entwizle Esquire and Mary Brawley (baptism in Lower Cumber CofI Church on 5 March 1815 - illegitimate).
We think that Henry Entwizle Esquire is likely to be the Henry Entwisle referred to in the McClay gravestone inscriptions (Ref: D3672/2 in the Public Record Office, Belfast) which records the following headstone in Cumber Old graveyard:
‘Henry Entwisle born 6 March 1789 died 8 June 1816 was the 4th son of John and Ellen Entwisle of Foxholes House in the County of Lancaster which Ellen was a daughter of the late Hugh Lyle Esquire of Coleraine County Londonderry’
That takes us down the route of following
John (Markland) Entwisle where there is a significant amount of family history published in a section on Foxholes in the History of the Parish of Rochdale - Old Houses and Old Families - Hundersfield.
and
Hugh Lyle (Ellen's father) where there is also much available.
No information on Mary Brawley though so still searching for there.
They had at least 11 chidren -