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Title: 21 the Brook Arklow
Post by: manus on Sunday 15 February 09 00:49 GMT (UK)
Hi All
I'm looking for a place in Arklow called 21 the Brook. As this is where my mum lived in 1953 I think it was her father's house His name was James Dunne Would anyone know if its still there. many thanks. Manus   
Title: Re: 21 the Brook Arklow
Post by: TF13 on Sunday 15 February 09 14:40 GMT (UK)
hi manus,

it looks like The Brook still exsists;

http://www.wicklowpeople.ie/

scroll down to the bottom of the page.

you can also see it on google maps;

http://maps.google.co.uk/

type in The Brook,Arklow,County Wicklow and it'll come up.

tony
Title: Re: 21 the Brook Arklow
Post by: manus on Sunday 15 February 09 18:27 GMT (UK)
Hi Tony thank you very much I will have a look now

Regards Manus
Title: Re: 21 the Brook Arklow
Post by: gina45 on Saturday 28 February 09 00:25 GMT (UK)
the brook still exists and has houses still in it.. not sure if there is a 21 anyomore..
Title: Re: 21 the Brook Arklow
Post by: manus on Saturday 28 February 09 02:00 GMT (UK)
Hi Gina45
Sorry I have just seen your reply thank you.  I was in Arklow a few year's back for a very short time on my way to Wexford.  I found a street called The Brook but could not find no 21 I walked up and down the road and all the number's were there but not 21.  I did knock on number 23 to asked if there had been a number 21 and they told me they had only be living there 20 years and in all that time they had never seen a number 21 but there was a gap between 20 and 23 where a house could have been. they was really frendly.  So I thought I was in the wrong place.  I was in Arklow  as I wanted  to get a copy of my mother's Baptism from the Church of St Joseph Templerainey as her father did not register her birth.
Can you tell me please if the library has a list of the death's from 1930 as I am trying to find my grandmother her name was Mary Dunne she died from T . B after my mother was born and my grandfather James Dunne never registered her death he must have been in a state as he lost his young wife and was left with 4 children to bring up one of them a new baby.

Regards Manus         
Title: Re: 21 the Brook Arklow
Post by: gina45 on Sunday 01 March 09 00:11 GMT (UK)
you probably didnt look in the right place.. you probably went up and down lower main street.. the brook is a little square and the road leads through to south green.. i was born in arklow 47 years ago and i will go down to the brook tomorrow and check for you and will go back on tomorrow night.. i will try take a photo if i find it k.. the only place you can get the birth cert is in the registrar office. health centre, Glenside road, wicklow town.. send the details and 10 euro cheque or postal order and they will send you the long version of the birth cert .. state what you want.. a new hand written one which is often easier to read or a copy of the orginal.. hope that helps.. i will get back to you tomorrow k...
Title: Re: 21 the Brook Arklow
Post by: gina45 on Sunday 01 March 09 00:12 GMT (UK)
sorry it costs the same for death certs from the same place.. registrar. wicklow health centre, glenside road, wicklow town.. they are very helpful there..
Title: Re: 21 the Brook Arklow
Post by: manus on Sunday 01 March 09 09:33 GMT (UK)
Hi Gina45

Thank you for your reply and help. It would be lovely if you can get a photo of the place as I would love to see it.  I must say  Arklow is a lovely place My mum used to say it was the Gardens of Ireland and she was very proud of being born there.  Once again thank you

Regards Manus 
Title: Re: 21 the Brook Arklow
Post by: gina45 on Sunday 01 March 09 11:10 GMT (UK)
have you checked the census for arklow they are on line just type in aklow census and they will come up... there is a couple of mary dunnes on it,,, some as young as three butnot living in the brook as far as i can see..
Title: Re: 21 the Brook Arklow
Post by: manus on Sunday 01 March 09 11:31 GMT (UK)
Hi Gina45

My Grandmother Mary Dunne nee Gowan was born in Gorey Wexford She went to live in Arklow in 1929 Thats where my mother was born Brigid Dunne born 1930. Sponsors at my mother's Baptism was a  Mary O'Reilly and a Huge Delaney I will have a look at the census now thank you for your help.


Regards Manus 
Title: Re: 21 the Brook Arklow
Post by: manus on Sunday 01 March 09 12:17 GMT (UK)
Hi Gina

I have just had another at the Baptism Certificate and it say's Church of St Joseph Templerainey. I just checked the Arklow Census and found a Hugh Delaney Age 21  living at number 1 Templerainey and a Mary Reilly living at number 7 Templerainey age 30 also her daughter Mary Ellen age 11.
I am not sure if my Grandmother gave birth to my mother at home as they did in those day's as she was dying from T.B.  Maybe Mary Reilly helped with the birth of my mother.  As my grandmother had only been living in  Arklow from 1929 She would not of had any family around her to help. My Grandfather must have moved after his wife died in 1930 to 21 The Brook.
Thank you very much for your help.

Regards Manus   
Title: Re: 21 the Brook Arklow
Post by: gina45 on Sunday 01 March 09 14:50 GMT (UK)
what was the parents name... there was a tb hospital in arklow it was where the arklow bay hotel is now.. maybe she gave birth there at the hospital as she had tb..  i checked the electoral records for 1939 and there is no dunnes living at 21 the brook and i think the O Donnells live there now and have for as long as i can remember.. if i see one of them i will ask did they know your family.. just give me all the names you want to know about... the midwife at that time was a nurse slevin from tyndalls lane.. maybe there was more than one i dont know..
Title: Re: 21 the Brook Arklow
Post by: gina45 on Sunday 01 March 09 14:52 GMT (UK)
i have a book called tracing your family roots in arklow town i will check it out again later for you
Title: Re: 21 the Brook Arklow
Post by: manus on Sunday 01 March 09 20:47 GMT (UK)
Hi Gina
Thank you so much for your help.
James dunne age 47 in 1930
Mary Dunne age 37 in 1930
Margaret Dunne age 6 in 1930
Mary Dunne age 5 in 1930
James Dunne age 3 in 1930
Unknown Baby Dunne died about 9 months old
All the above were born in Wexford
Brigid Dunne born 18 February 1930 Born in Arklow This is my mother and it was after my mother was born that my Grandmother Mary Dunne died.

I know my mother was living at 21 The Brook in May 1953 as that is the address on her marriage certificate
The O'Donnell's you are talking about are the people I was talking to when I was in Arlklow I think they lived at number 23 they were both really nice and tried to help they said that there was an old man who lived in the town that knew everyone. He was normally in the pub.  But as I was there early in the morning he would not have been there at that time.They said that he had loads of old  photo's of  the town and I also think they said his son had the pub not the one in that road the one where all the shop's are I just wish I could have stayed and waited for him as I would have loved to have seen the photo's.

Regards Manus     
 

   

   
Title: Re: 21 the Brook Arklow
Post by: P.Weadick on Sunday 21 November 10 00:15 GMT (UK)
hello you should leave a message on the facebook site       Arklow Then And Now
http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/group.php?gid=41918533570
full of very helpfull people with very long memories ;o)
i had a lot of family born and raised in the brook  and brook gardens
its well worth a look there may even be pictures of that house on the site
Title: Re: 21 the Brook Arklow
Post by: manus on Sunday 21 November 10 09:13 GMT (UK)
Hi Weadick
Thank you very much or that I will do that.

Regards Manus

Title: Re: 21 the Brook Arklow
Post by: gina45 on Monday 22 November 10 12:19 GMT (UK)
i agree with p arklow now and then would be a great place to get more help and you never know maybe even photos..... good luck with it...
Title: Re: 21 the Brook Arklow
Post by: manus on Monday 22 November 10 18:37 GMT (UK)
Hi Gina45

Thank you I have now put a post on there maybe someone will have a old  photo

Regards Manus
Title: Re: 21 the Brook Arklow
Post by: P.Weadick on Tuesday 23 November 10 05:58 GMT (UK)
You should post it on the discussion board of the arklow then and now facebook page / group
i had a look and couldnt see where you posted it im sure ull get many responses if you post it on discussion board . Patrick Weadick ;o)
Title: Re: 21 the Brook Arklow
Post by: manus on Tuesday 23 November 10 20:42 GMT (UK)
Hi Patrick Weadick

I am a silly moo I posted it in the wrong place :-[ But  I think I have posted it in the right place now thank you very much for all  your help.

Regards Manus 
Title: Re: 21 the Brook Arklow
Post by: P.Weadick on Thursday 25 November 10 02:14 GMT (UK)
gina 45 is your second name byrne?